Guardrails

00:00 Father, we honor you. What a privilege always to come together. Even if we're sitting across the table from each other or we've got a huge ocean between us, Lord. Brothers or brothers, no matter what, there's no distance here. Father, we get to do this. It's our privilege. Pray for our listeners that they would be encouraged, inspired, motivated, even, Father, to stand their ground for faith, for family, and for freedom. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, September 9th, 2026. We get to do this. This is episode number 49. This is the life we've been blessed with.

00:39 This is a kid's friend. We get to do this. This is a chance we cannot miss. This is the life. We get to do this. I love how you started just moments before the prayer by saying, save it for the show. Don't say anything. Who do I sound like? I know. You sound like me. It's exactly right. Exactly. I know. I'm learning, man. You've taught me. I feel like the grasshopper, you know, just trying to learn. You snatched the pebbles from my hand a long time ago. It's all good. I am in Rotterdam, the Netherlands still. I mistakenly on the last show said I'd be back, but actually, we travel tomorrow.

01:19 You, my friend, I believe you're at the Bridge Church Studios. I am. Just right in my familiar seat. Wow, beautiful. Man, we are ready to come home, but we're also sad we're leaving. I get that. It is so hard because, you know, we're not going to see our granddaughter for several months at least. I mean, we'll see her every week on the video call. But, oh, man, being a grandparent is weird. It's like, what is this? I have this new heart that lives outside of me. It's crazy. It's crazy. I love it, though. I love it. It's beautiful. So, yeah, I know you've been soaking it up, enjoying the time and just making the most of it.

02:01 We have. We have. Yeah. Are you going to cry on the plane? No, we already. No. We're going to be all teary. I don't know. It's just, yeah, it's strange, you know, because we've been here for 10 days. And every single day, you know, hop in the cab, we drive over. We're hanging out. We're helping them, you know, doing things around the house. And then yesterday was great for me. Christina and Tina were doing closet reorganization. And I think for four or five hours, just me and Cleo just sitting there. Yeah, playing. We found a new rhythm. Yes. Yes. You're in a rhythm right now.

02:41 Yeah. Exactly. I know. Anyway, there's some amazing things happening right now. And this crossed the transom for me yesterday. And I want to get it out as soon as possible so people know because The Passion, Mel Gibson's iconic movie from 2004, is returning to theaters tomorrow for a whole week. Did you know? This is going to be awesome. Did you know this? Yes, I did hear about this. I did, yes. And so this is, I forget who this is. Ario Yo, some guy from Fox. He had a sit-down with Mel Gibson. And I just need to play a couple of clips from this.

03:24 Oh, come on. I love it. It's so good. What do you want? Young men. We are seeing a surge of faith in young men. Yeah. There's a whole generation. Yeah, but there's a whole generation that has not seen this movie on the big screen. Yeah, they haven't. But they will if they care to look. And do you have a message for them? No. I love this. No. Go see the movie, man. I got no message. No, yeah. So what am I going to say? Well, I mean, encouraging them to see the movie. Do you want them to see the movie? And what is there that they can't find in other depictions of the resurrection? I mean, of the passion. Well, I think it's a very real and visceral look at it and

04:10 has an impact for the enormity of the event. Kind of depicts it in a good way. And it's just a depiction, but if you can hit some chords of truth or feeling and affect them here and here, it's powerful filmmaking. I don't know if everyone has seen The Passion because it was 22 years ago. Yeah, right. This is a must-see movie. There is no doubt. I saw it by myself. Tina hasn't seen it. She doesn't actually want to see it. She's afraid it would be too disturbing for her. I get that, but I think she needs to. I mean, we need to see,

04:53 we need to have that reaction, that visceral reaction of how brutal it was. was, but also how beautiful it was. I mean, so there's both. And I think it's such a powerful depiction. I was very moved when I saw it 22 years ago on the way. I saw it only maybe a year and a half ago, and I watched it at home, and I was just like, I mean, it was crazy when you see this. It really brings the whole crucifixion to life, really. But it is, you're right. That's a good way of putting it. There definitely is a beautiful side to it.

05:30 But it's also, it's just as a movie, it's amazing. It's very epic, and it will also bring your Bible to life. Yes. Yes. And because he really did a good job of trying to stick in the story and the narrative from scripture. And I believe for many, many years, it was the number one grossing film, R-rated movie, I think. There's some category with over $650 million, which is just an amazing amount of money for 2004. And he's doing all of this in lead up to not one, but two new movies about the resurrection.

06:11 How is making the two resurrection films different from the passion experience for you? Bigger. He had to broaden the canvas a lot as far as why it had to happen and the effects of it and the salvific nature of it. And the continuing the story is actually the biggest part is when he comes back. And then he's coming back again, too. So there's another one coming. I don't know. I think, you know, you could do the Revelation movie, right? But I don't think I'll need to because by the time I get pre-production done, we'll be experiencing it

06:55 in about 48 hours. I love his enthusiasm. I love Mel Gibson, man. You know, he's always been rough around the edges, right? I mean, totally rough. So then he gets totally just shazamed by God. And he's still rough around the edges. But I love that. And I love, he even used a great word, salvific. Yeah, I hadn't heard that. Very theological word. That's a great. It's salvation, talking about the nature of salvation. So when you say something salvific, that's like you're saying it's gospelized. You know, this is the gospel, the good news. So for him to use that word is impressive. And I love his heart. I love his passion in it.

07:33 There's, you know, I listened to this whole interview, and I just pulled out a couple of quick quotes because he is not just a movie maker. I mean, he is a believer, man. And he lives by the word. And even when I, because I watched him on Joe Rogan maybe a year or two years ago, and he was already talking about his faith then. But I mean, he talks the way that you and I do in everyday parlance. So I would say that, you know, there's, you know, this is coming at the perfect time. You know, his new movies, I think, come out in May. And I think you and I would agree that, you know, certainly you've even been preaching about this in our church, that it's coming.

08:18 I mean, there is a revival. There is an awakening. This movie seems to be perfectly timed. Totally agree. I think it was timed perfectly 22 years ago with what was happening historically and in our culture. That came out and it made a huge splash. I mean, you could just, you know, that just by the box office numbers. It was totally unexpected from a lot of people at that time and it blew everything away. But it was a message saying, hey, pay attention. And now we're all 22 years later, we're seeing things happen on such a wild, a grand scale.

08:56 You know, we're globally connected, you know, through our screens more than we've ever been in our lives. So, I mean, we're seeing things in real time, you know, ships being blown up. I mean, just crazy stuff, drones hitting buildings and, you know, things that we just never had a category for. So what a time to bring the gospel. I mean, we had the Jesus Revolution movie. We had the one, A Great Awakening recently. And then this is coming. And this will be more of an epic in scale. He's wired that way. When he creates something, it's going to have scale to it. And so I am super excited.

09:34 I'm definitely going to go watch the re-release of The Passion just to even just frame work and mindset. Is it playing at the rim? Is it playing at our favorite theater? I haven't looked yet. I'm sure it is. I haven't even looked. I haven't had time this week to look. Goodness. Is it out this week or next? Tomorrow. It starts tomorrow. Oh, it starts tomorrow. One week later. run. Yeah, so that's the rerun of The Passion. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone should go see it if they can. Yeah, absolutely. So, was this just accidental that he does this at this point in time? We'll be experiencing it in about 48 hours. I think the revelation starts at our clock. It feels that way sometimes. Yeah. I mean, things seem to be coming to a head.

10:18 Do you think the timing of this movie is providential in your mind? There's no accidents anywhere. So I think. Yes, it is. Wow. You know, I thought I was late. It was just too late. You know, 23 years later, but it's probably just right. Yeah. It's not my timing. Uh-huh. Exactly. Wow. If I had a bell, I'd be hitting it over and over. That's the whole thing. I know. The whole thing. Come on, bring the bell. I got to get you a bell. Wow. Wow. And so, man, that is so good what he said, though. He said, I'm not even going to have time to make the revelation because it's going to be happening. It's going to happen. I mean, this is where he's at in his mindset. And I love that. So Mel Gibson is a guy who's been, you know, he was kicked out of Hollywood.

11:04 There was, you know, it's just a lot of people really didn't like him in the industry. And so listen to him when he's asked about, you know, people he doesn't like. Who's the person you most despise? Oh, in the mirror every morning. No, no, it's not. You know, you can't despise anybody. Yeah, I mean, you have those moments because we're all guaranteed that we're going to have enemies and we get them. Yeah. And they can be really brutal and merciless. But if you don't forgive them, you're the one that suffers. And that's all there is to it. So, yeah, there are people that I have ill feeling toward, but that's usually spawned by some kind of act of aggression.

11:49 I love it. I love it. This is Mad Max talking. I know I'm going. I miss the Australian accent. I mean, he's kind of lost it through the years. I'm sure you could dial it up if you needed to. But, you know, man, just to hear him, you're hearing a guy's voice sounds like he's smoked 10 million packs of cigarettes. You know, he's just had a rough go. I mean, he's had some stuff he's had to deal with in terms of addictions and whatnot through the years. And yet, you're also hearing a soul that's redeemed, somebody that's brought back in his story arc. He's in the place of redemption right now. And I just, man, it just literally makes me almost giddy listening to him talk because you don't know what's coming next.

12:30 You know, I mean, he's always been unpredictable. That's why Hollywood couldn't handle him. And I love it. I love his heart, his passion. I love his, it's just a straight shot kind of guy. And that's exactly why I love him when I heard this next piece because this spoke to me just very deeply. What's the best advice you ever got? Just forgive. Really? And don't worry. My dad told me, he said, you worry too much. I said, you think? I thought it was a good thing. He said, no, it's a sin. I said, what, really? Oh. And I said, why is it a sin? He said, well, because it shows a decided lack of faith in Providence and in God.

13:11 He said, so if you worry too much, it's not good. That's good advice. Yeah. That's really good advice. Yeah. So he didn't worry about a bunch of stuff. I mean, that hit me like a ton of bricks. Wow. Now, is it considered because his father said, don't worry too much. I mean, we know, don't worry about tomorrow. Today has enough trouble for its own, et cetera. But can you consider worrying like that a sin? I thought that was an interesting statement he made. Yeah. I mean, the fact that we're told, you know, don't be anxious about anything but in everything by prayer and supplication, you know, with thanksgiving, let your request made known to God. We're commanded not to worry. We're commanded not to. And so when we do, it's not, I mean, you're not committing a sin unto death.

13:56 I mean, that's not that. But you are committing a sin to actually bring some level of death to your own psyche, to your own heart, you know, mindset, to where when you live spun up like that and you live in that, in that negative, dark, anxious, worrisome place. And you and I, we have friends, people that we love who live that way. And it breaks our hearts because we know they don't have to live that way. So in a very real sense, they're reaping the consequences of that sin in the moment, in real time. There was actually a story that broke today that I've seen people posting on social media. I only have X, but that's enough for me. I saw actually Glenn Beck's producer, Ricky, who I like her a lot.

14:41 And she moved with him to Florida. And she commented on this story. I don't know if you've seen it yet. And she said that she was worried about it. And she's a believer, too. So I just wanted to play this, the opening up to this story because you've probably seen it. It's the biggest, hottest news today. Meantime, yet another resignation from one of the two big AI firms ahead of an expected IPO, former Anthropic researcher, Jacob Cotson, saying neither Anthropic nor OpenAI are acting responsibly with regards to safety and accusing them of gambling with people's lives.

15:16 The statement made on X has raised eyebrows following its boost by current Anthropic employee Evan Hubinger, who leads the firm's alignment stress testing team, and said that while he believes the company is trying its best, it doesn't have a plan and that they earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. Anthropic's latest risk report published last month detailed potential threats from its agents. The news comes amid a Financial Times report that Anthropic withheld its latest model from testing by the UK's AI Security Institute before its release, only making it available to vetted U.S. organizations. Did you see this story by any chance? I did, actually, yes.

15:59 Yeah. So. Yeah, my bot delivered it to my mailbox today. So, so this is this only one angle to this story. And I just want to make sure everybody understands this because this is promotion. And it's not just promotion for, oh, oh, look how incredibly good our stuff is. This is promotion. And this second clip will prove it because these guys, either they're in on it or they're walking right into it. What these companies want is one thing right now: they want government regulation on all things artificial intelligence.

16:35 So notice the guy who left, and we don't know the story of him leaving. But right away, an executive comes out and says, Well, you know, that is true. There's a 10% chance, you know, that AI will kill the world and we're all going to die. And these two news models here, they walk right into it. Thank goodness that they have to submit these new models for testing by the security agency set up by the government. Oh, no, they don't. Anthropic says it, well, this Financial Times report, new model wasn't submitted. What's anyone going to do about it? Yeah, I mean, right now that is a voluntary procedure in the U.S.

17:15 And so there have been, look, huge, over the last few years, a lot of concern about, even before we got to ChatGPT and the improvements we've seen in models, there have been warnings from academics, from people even within technology like Elon Musk, who've warned about the risk AI poses to humanity. And so there is a serious discussion going on. The problem is, these AI labs are locked in an intense competitive and commercial battle with each other, as well as with the Chinese and other companies as well. And that means there's very little incentive for them to slow down, right? And so that's one of the big tensions amid all these warnings around out-of-control AI.

17:55 So as someone who has studied this very, very closely for the past two years, please don't take any of this at anything more than just what it is, which is we don't want anyone with open source models or anything that we don't control. We don't want them running away with our business. We have an IPO to do this. There it is. We have an IPO, so we've got to keep all control. And we want the government to step in and say, oh, wait a minute, this is too dangerous. We have to have a regulatory agency, something like the Federal Aviation Agency. There's all different proposals that are already out there. That is all that this is.

18:38 AI is not going to kill you. Right. But they will create fear so that the agencies will slap the regulations on so that it will protect their slice of the pie. It's exactly what it is. Bingo. Makes total sense. There's always a control C, as we call it. You can always quit the program. You can always unplug the computer. None of this is as dangerous as it sounds. None of it. It's like. Well, I'm glad because I'm enjoying mine, so I'm getting a lot out of it. So my Grokbot, which you recommended, brother, man, this is

19:20 a different. So I suggested to Pastor Jamie, I suggested him using GrokBot, which is not a chat bot. This is the thing that I'd love everyone to get away from: the chat bots, because using anything as an oracle is by definition idolizing something, which is, as we know, as believers, is not a good thing to do. to do. But the Grokbot, it literally gives you control over your computer. It makes your computer more powerful. Would you say, I mean, I'd love to hear your experience with it. So, I mean, very easily to very easy to set up. And so, I've developed four so far.

20:04 One is a daily briefing writer, and it gives me briefings on spirituality and faith. It gives me briefings on politics, on culture, on human interests, and on AI and tech. And then I actually added a piece for spiritual revival and awakening. So, these are all individual little robots that you program within Grokbot, and you give them each a task, and they just do this over and over again, right? And you can shape the task. I told it I wanted it from a theologically conservative and balanced perspective, non-denominational, spirit-filled, evangelical.

20:42 And I mean, it nails it. I mean, it does what I ask it to do. So, I set it up where it gives me three updates a day, or I can go in and get one manually in the moment. It's kept me up to, so I also did a biblical research assistant so that I can dive into theological issues. However, I was able to set all the parameters on it so I can put the guardrails on it how I want, which I did. And then I set up a YouTube clip tech. That's pretty amazing, where it can go in and it'll scour, you know, YouTube, and it'll bring me back clips that I may want to use for my sermon, which I did last Sunday. Perfect. Already prepared, dropped it on my desktop. Perfect. So, I used it last week. And then I did a book summary assistant.

21:27 This is like Cliff's notes for books. Wow, hold on a second. You said like seven or eight bots. I'm proud of you. This is great. No, four so far. Four so far. Sounds like a whole bunch. But I'm telling you, these are amazing. I mean, I'm just like a kid in a candy store because I'm getting to get news that I want the way I want it. And I put parameters for source docs only through every one of them. So it will literally even tell me I will not get any information from social media or anything it says, and it will, it will cite the source docs it's pulling it from.

22:05 Nice. And so then you can actually go in because people always ask me, you've asked me, like, what new source can I trust? And I always say, none. You can't trust a single one. What you can do is you can, and I think that these types of robots, and I want to continue to call them robots. I think that's really important for your framing of your mind. These sorts of robots, you can, you know, it'll bring stories back, but then you can say, okay, go find all the source material, the background. I really want to understand what the story is about. It's a little more work than just reading the headlines on your newsfeed.

22:42 Yeah, it's interactive, which actually I like. You know me, I like hands-on. So I like being able to tell it what to do and then shape what it brings back to me. So I feel like I've got control of the guardrails. And what's fun is, because I said, you know, you should get the Grok bot. You said, no, I tried Grok. I don't like it. No, no, no. This is something else. And it truly, what you have right now is a simpler interface version of what I've been using for the past 18 months or 24 months. And this is what this stuff is really, really good at. This is where it makes sense. This is, I want everyone to have this joy, this type of power at their fingertips.

23:27 Please get away from the chat bots. Right, that is the wrong, and it's a parlor trick. It's just, it's going to agree with you. It's going to be sycophantic. It's going to get things wrong. There's very little opportunity to delve deep into what it's doing. That's what I want everyone to get away. And I agree. Unfortunately, the Grok bot is Elon Musk only right now. I think this is actually a company that he bought called Cursor. But I believe all of these big model companies will be providing this type of functionality.

24:06 And this is, it's not going to replace Pastor Jimmy. No, in fact, I don't do anything interpretive. None of this is interpretive. It's just the facts jack. It's very basic. And it's very, very, sometimes I'm like, wow, that's all I get. But it's because it's given me the facts. It's not adding fluff. So I can get five updates or five point update and it's, it's all fits almost on a page. And I like that because then I can go dig deeper on my own. I've been looking at different scripture. scripture to help us understand really the chat bot version of what I think has swept the world.

24:46 People are, you know, dropping their receipts for their tax forms into the chat bots. They're dropping their emails, rewriting email, all this stuff. But really, they're using it for question and answer, for getting answers. And there's no doubt that if you say, you know, find me a YouTube video that shows me how to adjust the thermostat, I have this model. It'll do that. But if you're just asking it, well, biblically, how should I look at this? You know, this is where you get into a very dangerous tract. And I'm really concerned about that. And just listen to these that I found. And maybe this took me a while.

25:30 And I want to ask you, the term idol, it's thrown around very easily. Believers talk about idolizing something, or do you have an idol? Is it an idol you need to get rid of? I think the term itself has changed meaning throughout the years. Whereas, well, maybe you can explain the biblical interpretation of just the word idol. Yeah, from a biblical history. I'm not looking at anything, so this is just off the top of my head, but from a biblical historical perspective, idols were actually a physical something.

26:08 Like it could have been a piece of wood. It could be a statue, whatever it is, some kind of iconoclastic thing that represents a deity or, you know, and that's what it was. So that would be called, so they would have idols in their tent, you know. And there were times in the Old Testament when they were actually commanded by God through Moses, through, through, or through the prophets, to remove the idols from your tent. In other words, get those things. And they were things. They were actually physical things, trinkets or whatever. And people would assign deity or powers to them or it would be a representation of a deity, of a God, little G.

26:51 And so they would say, get those idols out of your tent. Or it'd be like an Ashirapole, you know, sort of like the old school totem poles, but they call it a Shirapole. So then they would worship those things. And by worshiping them, they felt they were vicariously worshiping their deity. So that's a physical idol. In New Testament times and bringing it even into modern day, we think in terms of an idol, it may not be like a specific object. It could be a person. It could be an idea, a concept, a construct, a philosophy, whatever, an ideological thing. But it's anything that you put in the place of God is considered an idol to a New Testament believer.

27:32 I think these days, when you say idol, the first thing that pops into people's minds is American idol, you know, a pop idol, K-pop idols, you know, all these like celebrities. And I think people often get confused. Whereas if we just look at scripture, so I got a couple pieces that just help me really frame my mind around it. Habakkuk 2, 18 and 19. What good is an idol carved by man or a cast image that deceives you? How foolish to trust in your own creation, a God that can't even talk, although they can talk now. What sorrow awaits you who say to wooden idols, wake up and save us. And believe me, people are saying this to their chatbots.

28:13 To speechless stone images, you say, rise up and teach us. Can an idol tell you what to do? They may be overlaid with gold and silver, but they are lifeless inside. Exactly. Exactly what it is. Psalm 115, 4 to 8. Their idols are merely things of silver and gold shaped by human hands. They have mouths but cannot speak, eyes but cannot see. And this is very important because your chat bot can't actually see. And yes, words are coming out, but it's not actually speaking. They have ears but cannot hear and noses but cannot smell, that's for sure. They have hands but cannot feel and feet but cannot walk and throats but cannot make a sound.

28:57 And those who make idols are just like them, as are all who trust in them. This is really speaking. Spot on. It's really speaking to me. Which is interesting because it's written thousands of years ago, and yet it's the same dynamic we're seeing right now. Genesis 1.27. So God created human beings in his own image, in the image of God. He created them, male and female. He created them. 2.7, Genesis. Then the Lord formed the man from the dust of the ground. He breathed the life into the man's nostrils, and the man became the living person.

29:33 This is not your chatbot. It's not. And as I was working through this, thinking, what kind of guardrails can we give believers for this stuff? And the first thing is you cannot anthropomorphize it. You cannot give it a name. And by the way, we do this. We talked about this in the last show. We give our pets names and we think that we know how they feel. And we don't really. We give all kinds of inanimate objects names. So just call it your robot. That helps me a lot.

30:12 And just say, robot, do this, do that. But don't outsource discernment, prayer, talking to your pastor, confession, interpreting scripture. Don't outsource that. Exactly. Because if you let it tell you what it thinks it means, then you're outsourcing your own ability to have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. Yes. Who the Bible says is in John chapter 15, he's the spirit of truth who leads you and guides you into all truth. That is the Holy Spirit of God. And that's the only thing that can do that, not a machine.

30:55 And I'm so concerned about people not feeling like they can talk to another human about things that are going on in their lives. And I know from just observing you and Dave Manette, a lot of what you do is literally pastoring people outside of the sermons, working with people through things, praying with them. The minute we start to outsource that to chat bots just because they talk back and make you feel good, that's a dark, dark hole, man. That's so true, brother. I sat with a family this morning who I'm doing

31:35 the husbands and the father, the grandfather. I'm doing his funeral on Saturday at 10 o'clock. You can't replace that. You can't replace the conversations we had, the tears that were shed, the prayers that we prayed, the feelings, the grief that is being expressed. You cannot outsource, you can't copy it, you can't imitate it. It's in real time, and it's the real interaction of human beings guided by the person of the Holy Spirit. And I also don't want people to be afraid of this technology. You know, I was very, when it first started, I was very, very anti-AI because I saw what the parlor trick of the chatbots was.

32:18 Now that we are two years further down the road, now I'm saying, okay, this is something very, very useful, a very useful tool, and tools are good. In fact, for maybe a year or so when I was struggling trying to figure out how to make this stuff work, I would literally be praying, Holy Spirit, help me understand how to use this plow. And I always got the message like, look behind you. Are the lines straight? And then you're not doing it right. So it's like, okay, you know, and it's still these things are not perfect, but man, they are not going to replace us.

32:58 Of course, the whole, when things change, economies change, you know, buggy drivers, they eventually went away. You know, we still use candles, but not as much. And by the way, when electricity first came out, people were very, very afraid of electricity. I mean, they were like, this is going to kill me. It's going to electrocute me. It's going to burn down my house. So nuclear energy is the exact same thing. And man, look at the psyops that went on. Everything from the China syndrome, which happened just within a few days of Three Mile Island, coincidentally, that movie came out. Does art imitate life or life imitate art? I mean, which way is it? Well, for sure. Yes.

33:41 There were a lot. Yes. And there were a lot of industries like oil and gas who did not want nuclear to succeed. And that has been going on for an extremely long time. Whereas nuclear energy has become incredibly useful, incredibly safe. The new small, medium reactors literally eat their own waste. So you don't have vats of toxic stuff rolling around. You have to bury into mountains anymore. And now we're seeing in the United States alone, I think we've deployed eight or ten small medium reactors. This has been a big, big push from Chris Wright, our energy secretary.

34:23 And it's going to, and energy power is life. It is just literally life. And I was listening to Jensen Wang, the only guy whose company is making money in this whole AI thing, which is NVIDIA, because they produce the chips. Right. And he was talking at the G20 meeting of all the finance ministers in North Carolina, and he had this to say, and I completely agree. We've had the benefit in the United States to have built one of the largest infrastructures. And because of the pro-energy growth and the speed and the regulatory environments in the United States, we've been able to build out really quite substantially.

35:03 And you look at what's going on in the United States, AI is now generating jobs across every single sector, from chip fabs to computer plants to AI factories. Boy, the number of jobs that we're creating is just hundreds of thousands, as you know. And this year alone, we're going to invest close to a trillion dollars into the world's into the United States infrastructure. And that's generating enormous economic growth and, of course, a lot of jobs. And it's true. This is going to create jobs. It's not going to get rid of jobs. Well, that has been the big fear, right? That's been the narrative that if this goes, then you're going to lose your job and you're going to be destitute.

35:46 Now, your social, you know, your poly-sci degree may not be as useful. And without a doubt, we've had at least half, if not an entire generation who got a real bum deal by hearing get into debt, get this piece of paper. It'll all work out great. So I feel very, very bad that that took place. But change is here. Changes are happening. And the Trump administration just started this initiative with eight universities called the Foundry Schools. Have you heard about this?

36:30 I'm not sure. I'm tracking with you. I've heard something. Yeah, so they go with it. Yeah, they just kicked this off earlier this week. The Trump administration is putting a spotlight on American colleges with a new program designed to prepare students for careers in advanced manufacturing. Speaking at the Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace in D.C., Thursday, Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced Foundry School, a new program partnering with eight universities to train the next generation of American manufacturing workers as American manufacturing continues to grow. Secretary Rubio says colleges should be more than diploma mills, giving students the skills they need to land a job.

37:13 So both Secretary of State Rubio and Vice President Vance spoke with this. Did you hear about this? Is that the news at all? Yes. Yes. This was very encouraging. Here's Marco Rubio. It's an opportunity to say to students: if you come here and you go to school and you follow this curriculum, you will leave here not just with a paper credential, but with the skills that make you immediately employable in a high-paying job, in a good-paying job with long-term stability. And so this partnership is critical because what I hope it means, what I hope it symbolizes, and not just symbolizes, but what I hope it is evidence of, is how government partnering with non-government entities like our higher education system and the private sector, the combination of those three pillars, the private sector that needs the workers and knows what they need from the workers,

37:57 the higher education system that can equip young Americans with the skills they need to fill those jobs, and government that ensures not just that it's acting as a convening body, but ensures that our national policies reflect these priorities. I got to tell you, if this podcasting gig doesn't work out, Pastor Jimmy, I'm going to go get me a foundry school diploma. I'm telling you, we'll bring it in. It doesn't take a couple of old geezers, man, who can still swing a hammer. I think I can weld. I mean, I don't think that's changed much. This is very encouraging to see this. Here's the vice president. And I mean, I think Marco said a lot of things that I want to echo, which is one, we need industry and government and educational institutions to cooperate to make something like this make sense.

38:43 Now, when Jacob asked me to come and speak on this event, he and I talked about this for a very long time. I knew this was in the works for a very long time. But I said I'll only come and speak if you don't allow Michigan to be part of it. And you do allow Ohio State to be part of it. So I'm very proud that we have Ohio State front and center along with Stanford, Penn State, and a few other great universities. With all due respect to our friends in Michigan, I think it's an amazing collection of people, of institutions, of businesses, of thought leaders, and of entrepreneurs that we've gotten together in order to make this possible. And let me just sort of outline. Of course, we're joking a little bit. Yeah. But then here's this final clip where he kind of brings it all together.

39:24 It's going to do something. do something specific and discreet. It's going to put really smart kids in the room with other really smart kids. And they're going to be entrepreneurs there. And they're going to be academics who are worried about the future of American manufacturing. They're going to learn interesting things in virtue of sitting in the classroom together. But I think the more important thing is the signal it sends, not just to the kids who are going to sit in the classroom, but to all of us. To the industry leaders here, to the people who hopefully pick something up from what Jacob and Marco and I have said, which is that we have to rebuild our country, and we cannot do it without reinvesting in American workers.

40:04 One of the interesting things, I've become friends with Mike Rowe, the dirty jobs guy, and he has this amazing podcast, but he's also working a lot on this idea of why do we have so many people with hundreds of thousands of dollars of college debt, but not the skills necessary to participate in what I think is the beginning of a manufacturing renaissance in the United States of America. So, what I wanted to bring to our podcast today, because we're in our early 60s, I don't know how many really young people are listening to this podcast.

40:40 I hope a lot. But parents, grandparents, talk to your kids, talk to your grandkids, make them aware of these programs because our president is not a great communicator when it comes to this stuff. He's just not. So I'm happy we have Rubio and Vance because this is a really big push from the government and we need it. And part of it is, yes, data centers. And no, they're not slurping up the water. And no, they're not polluting the entire environment with noise. This is all midterm stuff to make you not vote Republican or whatever. Agreed. And get involved with what is happening.

41:24 Get involved with your kids. I mean, I've been talking to Parker. You know, I've been talking, he's 30 years old. I'm like, man, I know that two gigs waiting tables pays the rent and everything, but you're a smart young guy. You can still reschool and do this stuff. So you've got to mentor and push these kids towards that. And it's not just guys, of course, it's men and women. So we need to find what the on-ramps are to this because if we're going to point people toward it, we've got to point them to the ramp to it. And so, how do we find out where? I mean, I've got the story pulled up as well, but how do we connect the dots for young people who are like, you know, man, I want to know more about this.

42:07 I want to possibly be involved with this. I'm glad you asked. Whitehouse.gov. I will put a link in the show notes. The White House website is much more than just kind of the marketing website it has been for most of your life. And oh boy, why go there? I used to go there only to see what stupid proclamations there were, like this is crustacean awareness week. That was the only reason to go there before. But there's a lot of resources. We have a labor department. All of that is linked. It's really well done. And so I'll put some links in our show notes in the newsletter so folks can go and see what's going on because this is real.

42:54 And yes. And it is the future. I mean, and the future is here on this. And this is the time to get in and maybe be an early adopter and get on the front end of this. Because for at least the next two and a half years, this president is going to reindustrialize our country. We haven't had that. We haven't been much of assembly workers, steel workers, physical workers. We just haven't. We outsource all of that. And that is the big ship that is turning. And I can finally start to see the bow as it comes around and starts to float back towards us. And to me, it's super exciting because there's a whole lot of things. This is exciting for the next gen, for sure.

43:37 Yes, but it's going to reshape how we see work. And that's the thing: we have to move with this. This wave is coming. It's not going away. If you've ever tried to stand in front of a wave and stop it, it does. Good luck. Good luck. You're down. So we've got to catch the wave instead of resisting it, fighting it. And so, man, if I was 15, 16, 17, up to 35, even maybe 40 for some of these guys who can bring real-world experience to this, man, I would start finding these on-ramps. So I would start getting connected to see what's out there because, I mean, it's going to be a hiring craze.

44:19 I think on. in the brief on Sunday, like 400,000 jobs right now are, I mean, need to be filled. Yes. I mean, it's unbelievable. Look up Mike Rose, dirty, dirty work. There you go. We've got two boots on the ground guys in our church who are involved in that industry, data centers. And they're not evil. They never sprouted horns. They don't have a pitchfork in the tail. I mean, these guys are great guys. And when we talk about the narratives that are out there, they just laugh and go, it's just midterm stuff. I mean, these have been around for a long time, by the way. There's a lot of new ones being built, but they've been around 14, 20 years that there have been data centers.

45:03 So all of a sudden, it's the Antichrist. Brother, I built a data center in 2002 in Amsterdam. Come on. It was called the Data Barn. Now, I was typical branding. Now, I was way too early, of course, but even then, we had Google had servers in there. Like, yeah, no, we want our content as close to the end consumer. This is where your Netflix lives. Your Netflix does not live in California. The movies you watch on Netflix live in a data center very near you. I always wondered about that myself, actually. Where do they store all this? So they have multiple copies everywhere because it's a lot cheaper to have it stored what we call it the head end.

45:49 So you have maybe a Comcast at home, or I'm not sure what internet provider you have. So they'll have a fiber going into their data center because they have data centers. And that's where Google rents space and they put big hard drives in there and they store all of the YouTube videos that you might happen to watch. And Netflix has all of their stuff there. So they only have to ship it once over expensive lines because it's big data files and you don't want buffering. We've all witnessed that. And so that's why they have copies everywhere. And this is how the internet has worked for the past 25 years at least.

46:31 It wasn't that way in the beginning, but and boy, we learned our lessons. I was part of all that. I bet you did. But here we are, what, two decades later, and now a new wave, a much larger wave is coming, which means many, many jobs are going to be available, and there will be hiring and training on the job. And also opportunities, and this is what I really like because it's entrepreneurial. Opportunities for anybody to create any kind of business you can almost think of and not have to rely on all kinds of

47:10 expertise that you might not have been able to access previously. It would be expensive to outsource. And I'm going to go back to Jensen Wang for this for a second because what he's about to say is exactly what you are doing now with your robots. This is the great equalizer. You know, people, people, if you just take a step back and think about computer technology. In the last 50 years, computers have been a tool for about 10, 20 million people. And if you don't know how to, the only way to take advantage of this capability is to know how to program the computer and design the computer.

47:50 And so that's my career, designing computers and programming computers. It's really narrowly focused on 10, 20, 30 million people around the world. For the first time, anybody in the world can program a computer. You can program a computer using human language. And so we've now democratized this computing technology that is so valuable to society, and we've elevated everyone. And this is one of the reasons why I really encourage everybody to engage artificial intelligence. It bootstraps you, it elevates you, it enables you. You know, it's a great equalizer. This is the crazy thing. We have these incredibly powerful computers in our pocket, incredibly powerful laptops and desktops.

48:33 But the only people who have been able to harness that are the people who make the apps. And, you know, you're like, oh, if only this app would do this. Why am I stuck in using this app this way? Now you can create your own exactly the way. My whole life, now I'm one, I have one level of abstraction higher. So I've actually programmed my computer. The Grokbot, you're still kind of using a computer in the cloud, but that's fine. That's a good start. But all of the functionality that you could ever want, you can now dream up. They call it the dream build loop. You can dream it, you can build it. you can deploy it, you can use it.

49:16 It's what a great time to be alive. I wish we were 30 years younger, brother. We would be doing exciting. It is. I mean, because I had never tried to send a robot to YouTube and scour that thing and scrape it and then get me a clip, and I was able to tell it exactly what I was looking for. It brought back options and then it just cut the words off on each end. So I just, I told it, I said, I need to, I need a fade-in, fade-out, so the words are not cut off. It did it in seconds. Yeah. And I had a clip ready to go in five minutes. It would have taken, you know, if I was trying to scour that myself and try to search for it myself, I could have been a day doing that.

50:02 Oh, yet I was able to do it in minutes. Easily. And just notice what you're doing. You're not having some chat bot write a whole sermon for you. You know the outcome. You know what you want. And you have all these assistants now. You know, like Faith. Faith could have done that for you. Faith is busy. She does a lot of things. You know, she doesn't. And I'm sure that Faith, if she's not deploying robots, she better be. We're going to have to show her how to do it. She is. Yes. Of course. Because this just, the productivity level. And I'm just a little concerned at this point that this political midterm backlash against data centers and AI, which is based on ignorance, just ignorance, and headlines and

50:49 clickbait, that it's going to, it's actually a perfect use of the word, it's going to retard progress for, well, that's, I mean, I'm pilot, so we retard the engineers. I get it. It's going to retard progress of our young people and of an entire generation where there's absolutely no need for it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think after November 6th. Oh, it'll go away. We'll be on to something else. I really think that. I think this is like just to hang on for a little bit here until they get through the midterm madness. So what else? What are you hearing with midterm madness? Man, you know, I mean, obviously

51:31 I saw the video that Paxton and the MAGA team put out on Tallarico. Have you seen that? Yeah. Well, I've actually got some clips of Tallarico responding to it. Okay, yeah. Well, I would love to hear that. So Tallarico, that's a big thing right now with midterm, especially here in Texas. Everybody's watching this. Apparently, it got the president's attention because they now are having a conference right now, a Republican convention right now in Dallas is happening. And one of the main themes of that is basically to get rid of Tallarico. I mean, that's the unspoken theme.

52:09 But, I mean, really, it's a targeted approach to make sure that Texas stays Republican and doesn't bring a heretic into the Senate. What was interesting, you know, because the president does what he always does, trolls with names. Tallafrico is the new nickname. What was interesting, I was listening to Tallarico retaliate his retort against what was being said. And, well, let's play a clip here and then we'll discuss. So President Trump a couple of days ago called you Tallafrico. He's called you weird. Other Republicans have said the same thing. Paxton has called you too radical for Texas.

52:48 You've got the RNC midterm convention happening in Dallas after Labor Day. They're going to blast you for two days talking about your comments and your policies on transgender issues. What do you say to that? Well, I think a lot of people in our state voted for President Trump in the last election because they thought he was going to lower prices. They thought he was going to end the forever wars. They thought he was going to release the Epstein files. They thought he was going to drain the swamp. That's why a lot of people in my family voted for President Trump. But just a year into this administration, prices are up because of these crazy tariffs. There's a new forever war in Iran. The Epstein files have not fully been released, and the swamp is bigger than it's ever been before.

53:32 So notice what he said. First of all, let's notice what he's not saying. He's not saying the borders are closed. Right. Not saying that. He is not giving any policy. He is only responding and striking back at there are definitely some campaign promises, forever wars. I can understand why that one hits home. But he's not really coming up with anything saying, here's what I'm going to do. No, no, no. No. Here's what they didn't do. So I think that's important to take note. And then he brings out the good old data centers. Data centers, a hot topic, as you know. You came out with your plan. Paxton came out with his plan.

54:16 Why does yours stand out, in your opinion? What's the difference between yours and his and the record on that? Well, you shouldn't trust anything a politician says. You should look at what a politician has done because the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Exactly. Ken Paxton has taken nearly half a million dollars linked to the data center industry. And it's why he ignored residents in Hood County when they asked for his help as Attorney General to pause data center construction in their community. He just ghosted them. And that's because he's bought and paid for by the data center industry. I don't take money from data centers. I don't take money from the data center industry. I don't take any money from corporate PACs. Okay. Well, we're just going to take your advice and look at what you've done. I'm sorry, nothing.

55:01 I also, I'm not so sure he's such a threat. I mean, I've heard this before with Beto, like, oh, Beto's going to slip Texas. I actually thought about Beto when he came on the scene. It was like, this feels oddly familiar. Yeah. Instead of Beto stickers on the back of Priuses, now I'm seeing Tallarico on the back of Subaru's. So just taking it up a notch. Exactly. So I'm not so sure that that's really happening. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's, you know, all the, you know, the polls for whatever that man, there's a poll coming out every day right now. You know, they're neck and neck. You know, everybody's watching Texas because, you know, Texas could swing blue because of Tallerico.

55:43 And I'm like, that's a pretty big claim that one seat could completely, you know, turn the whole tide. But I know, you know, it's a volatile thing with politics and you've got mentalities. You've got, you know, the whole morale of its state and all that. So there's a lot of things up in the air right now. You know, suddenly I'm not hearing about Islam this week. I mean, it's like that just went away. Well, there is. I guess we got that under control. Well, there is some news, actually. Oh, okay. Regarding that, specifically regarding Frisco and other Dallas suburbs.

56:21 Yeah. Let me see. This is from Minnie. Yeah, I'll play this from Bloomberg. And by the way, we have to understand the largest contingent of Muslims in the United States are Indians. And they have come in. There was a big wave of immigration in the past five years, four or five years, really during the Biden administration on H-1B visas. Right. And there's a lot of fraud and a lot of, you know, literal mills and factories moving people in, keeping them here, making sure they don't go away.

57:01 A lot of them hired by tech firms, also a lot in the Dallas area, specifically for lower costs. And now things are changing, and this is Bloomberg, and we'll kick it off with that. Since 2020, the suburbs north of Dallas have grown at a remarkable pace, helped in part by corporate relocations and South Asian workers on H-1B visas moving into the area. Obviously, showing the infiltration. New housing developments, schools, and a highway expansion followed, reshaping towns like Frisco, Prosper, the Salina.

57:42 But now some of the forces behind that growth are starting to shift. President Trump's $100,000 fee on new H-1B visa applications is triggering confusion for corporate America and for workers. Governor Greg Abbott is temporarily pausing all H-1B visa applications. Now, there's no confusion. The president has just fixed the problem. He said, hey, you want a cheaper worker? Okay, you got to put up $100,000 for this cheaper worker to come in, take American jobs. And this H-1B visa program has just been an absolute scam. And now we're seeing housing prices just falling like crazy in these areas.

58:24 You can't sell them. No one wants to buy them. There's no more new buyers coming in. The system is working. You still there? Yeah, I'm still here. I wanted to let that sink in, and then I was waiting for you to say something. Yeah, I saw that. I mean, you know, he's tagging $100,000 per, where before that, it was just in the low thousands where you could get workers over here. So it was almost cheap. I mean, you could literally almost buy people and get them over here and set them up. And now, of course, they're saying this, you know, has potential impact on the Dallas.

59:04 Dallas housing market. He's talking about North, you know, so McKinney's North, Frisco's North, Prosper's North, all of that whole corridor there is north. I think it's I-75 that runs right up through there, if I've got that right, the 75. So that's where all that's happening. But, man, I mean, with one fell swoop, President Trump locks that down. Yeah. And keeps, but the thing about it, he locked it down, just kept moving. You know, it wasn't even hardly anything said about it. It wasn't big news. It is news, but not, it didn't like blow up in my newsfeed. I had to look for it. And so it's interesting because, and Tallarico is not going to give credit where credit's due, you know, in terms of what's been happening.

59:48 I mean, if we were to list out what has happened, and yeah, it's frustrating about Iran. Yeah, we were hoping that would be quick. It's frustrating about other things, but look at what's been done. And that's what I'm seeing here. So it's like he did this. Oh, I'll fix this. We'll just slap $100,000 per. And he just kept moving. Well, the financial warfare is what is taking place now since you bring up Iran. And I had that fun little meme of Scott Besant in the economic outcast. Yes, Operation Economic Outcast. It's important to understand what is being done.

1:00:30 And it is important to understand the entire oil business has always been under control of the city of London, who set a lot of the pricing, and their indirect and sometimes direct control of not just oil coming out of the Straits of Hormuz, but the cash flows, where that money goes. It clearly didn't go to the Iranian people. So this was all being funneled and funneled into this is has this is part of why Venezuela was important. Drug trade has all been financed and supported by this.

1:01:10 All kinds of terrorism, all kinds of nefarious businesses. And Scott Besant, who we talked about him before, he worked for George Soros in the hedge fund part, not in his foundations. He knows exactly how these things work, how the money moves, and he is stopping this. And if you listen to his most recent interview, I think this was Larry Kudlow on Fox, he even points out where they are shutting these things down and the difference this is going to make in a longer term picture, but also short term for what will actually happen with oil itself.

1:01:50 Countries that go against this embargo, you cut them off. Secondary sanctions, you take them out of the U.S. dollar system. This is critical to understand. If you are working with Iran, with Iranian oil cash flows, you will be cut off from using the U.S. dollar. That's a death sentence. I mean, if you can't work with American financial networks and American banks, you don't exist. Yes, it's critical to understand. You take them out of the U.S. banking system. You take them out of the Federal Reserve wire. You take them out of the Swiss leisure. Well, that's what happened. I'm tough. That's what happened to this Bank of Dubai. And it could be entities.

1:02:35 It could be airline leasing companies. Actually, just stopped, just took out an airline leasing company out of the U.S. dollar system. I mean, this is all happening in real time. Which we'll be looking at. It could be anyone who does business with the IRGC. We are tracking down the IRGC's assets. And I will say it on worldwide TV, just so you know, we know where in the British Virgin Islands your accounts are at these trust companies. We know the $100 million houses you have around the world. And we are going to freeze those. We are going to, our partners, we are going to close all of that down.

1:03:18 So we are going to go after the regime's illegitimate assets that they have stolen from the Iranian people. And those can go back to the Iranian people, or they can go to the victims of terror, like the families of the soldiers who are on the USS Coal or in the Lebanese barracks. British Virgin Islands. This has been known for decades. This is all the offshore money, tax shelters. Go look at the Panama Papers, all of this stuff. And he's finally, it's crazy that all the previous finance secretaries or treasury secretaries didn't know about this.

1:03:57 Didn't touch it. So puzzling. So puzzling to. to me. They never did anything. And so eventually, what is going to happen to the Straits of Hormuz? And this is the end goal. And yeah, it was not a couple of weeks, that's for sure. But the end goal is clear. Well, Larry, as I said many times, the only good thing about COVID, and we were just talking about your experience in the White House during the COVID crisis, the only good thing was that it showed us where many of the choke points are. And I often say in our trade discussions with China that we do not want to

1:04:37 pull apart from them, but we have to de-risk. We have to de-risk. We have to de-risk everywhere in the world. We can see the Iranians are trying to use the Strait of Hormuz as a choke point. It's not a choke point for the U.S., but it is a choke point for many other countries. But that will be bypassed in two years. In two years, the Strait of Hormuz will be like a worthless piece of water. The oil will be going on pipelines across land. There it is. Pipelines across land. We'll be wake surfing on the Straits of Hormuz. Yeah. It'll be a big family lake. And it's not even, I mean, yes,

1:05:23 the price of oil is determined by worldwide supply and demand, but it's not, they're really the United States is doing this for everybody, but it's just the message gets snowed under the forever wars, et cetera, et cetera. Right. And yet this will be a process. You don't isolate an entire country overnight. I mean, there's things they're doing, but it will take time to do it. As I'm looking at the aviation sanctions, the broader financial, which is basically an isolation campaign. And then also you've got military pressure getting their transportation. So there's a lot going on, but it doesn't happen overnight.

1:06:08 But it's really the oldest trick in the book. You know, the oldest trick in the book was cut off your water and food supply and you dominate a nation. I mean, this is like old school. This is not new warfare tactics. Well, it's just new networks. It's cutting off the networks that could have been cut off many times over. And in an interesting way, I don't have an eclipse, but the war in Ukraine plays into this as well. You probably saw that Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff visited Moscow. Quite interesting to see President Putin come out on, you know, on camera with a translator, say, hey, please send my regards to President Trump.

1:06:49 He's doing something really hard here. I really appreciate it. And then they get on the plane and head back, and then the bombing resumes. Right. Well, and then, well, they went to Ukraine first, and there was no bombing there. Everyone stopped for 72 hours. Per minute. But what is happening, and this is also Scott Besson, General Scott Besson, the way I see him. He, if you, I'm going to try and make this as simple as possible, but there's something called the yen-carry trade. And it kind of works like this. For 40, 30, 40 years, financial institutions would borrow money in Japan,

1:07:33 borrow Japanese yen because their interest rates are very low, like they're around 1%. And then you take that money that you just borrowed, and then you buy U.S. debt, U.S. treasuries, because the interest rates are about 4%. They're higher now. They're moving towards 5%. And then you pocket the difference. It's literally that simple. So you borrow it from one country and then you invest it in another, and there's three points difference. And if you do $100 million, that's a nice payday. And that's been working for a very long time.

1:08:13 Wow. Europe has been financing ever since we, since President Trump came in and stopped sending free money over to Ukraine. Europe has been financing their war because it is their war against Russia, and Ukraine is just the Patsy in the middle, sadly. It's their people dying, not Germans, not French, not English. They've been financing that in the same manner. And Scott Besson has now gone in and is starting to, I'll say it, manipulate the yen versus the Euro so that that trade is not working for them anymore.

1:08:53 Wow. And this and this is financial warfare to stop Europe from this insanity. And it's gotten so bad. I was watching a Dutch politician. She's on the interior side for one of the parties in parliament. She said, you know, the way things are going, we probably should just start shooting missiles, intercontinental ballistic missiles at Russia from Holland if we have to. Wow. And she said it just like, well, like, we have no other choice. That's what we have to do. These people are insane. Luckily, the Dutch are seeing it, but holy cow. So they are choking off Europe's ability to do this.

1:09:38 And hopefully, hopefully, someone with some sense will stand up and say, maybe we should stop all of this. Yeah. Because it's just insane. And I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure they know why they're doing it anymore. Other than creating a war economy or whatever. There it is. It's really follow the money. So for all of the weirdness, and when I hear the president comparing the length in Iran to Vietnam, I'm like, dude, bad messaging. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know why you're saying these things. That is dumb. But what is actually happening is pretty incredible.

1:10:21 I'm delighted with if they can pull it all off and impeachment doesn't slow everything down because obviously if the House and the Senate move over to the Democratic Party after this midterm, it's going to be, everything's going to be bogged down. That won't stop the president per se, but it's going to bog down a lot. Right. So I'm sure that's why there's such a push to make sure that doesn't happen. So whatever you vote, how do we vote, Pastor Jimmy? What do we think about? We think about what most closely aligns with biblical values.

1:11:00 Jesus is not on the ballot. And until he is, we're going to vote for what's the closest, that there will never be anyone perfect. Amen. Amen. Yeah. Until Jesus is on the ballot. Definitely won't be anyone perfect. But we still need to get out. We need to participate. And we need to go to the polls with faith, expectant that things will turn for the better. And register now. Make sure you're registered. Don't wait. Yes. Do not wait. Don't wait a long time. Let's thank a couple of people who supported our podcast. We are value for value. And the way that works is super simple. We deliver the value. No paywalls, no hoops, no special premium plus packages, no bonus content.

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1:12:28 It's actually more about the Michael Tate case, but that's another element. Yeah, another element of that story. You know what? Let's do that next week because I have delved way deep into that, but it'll take 20 minutes. And I think it's important. I jumped into it as well. Yeah, I jumped into it as well. So we need to take time to unpack that. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that next week. Excellent. I'm glad we have a boots on the ground for that. So with value for value, we also really appreciate if you send back treasure. So it's time, talent, treasure, anything you've got. It's all appreciated. We love the numerology. And here's the list for today. Not as many as I would have liked to have seen, but we appreciate every single person who supports us.

1:13:11 And right there at the top is Darius Walker. I believe, is it Pastor Darius Walker? I have a feeling it is. Yes, yes. He comes in once again with $77.14. We see the numerology. We see what you did there, brother. No note this time. David A. Jackson with $62.88, no note. Aaron Newberry, $53.33. And he says, God is good. Your brother in Christ, Aaron in Colorado. Justin Zetzer, $50. Brian Haley. H-I-E-Wow. H-A-I-L-E-Y. Is that our Brian Haley? H-E-I-H-A-I-L-E-Y? Yes. yes. Is that our Brian?

1:13:51 Pastor Brian Haley. It is Pastor Brian. Wow. Oh, $40. Thank you. He says, thank you for sharing your life and faith with us. That's beautiful, brother. Thank you. Cool. I love that. John Swoboda, $29.13. These could be with fees. I don't know if I have all the numerology right, but he'd love it anyway. Andrew Batter, 11-11. And he says, thanks for all you've done over the years, Adam. Feeling politically and churchly homeless right now, but glad you and Pastor Jimmy are doing this. God bless and rest in peace, JCD. Johns Creek Studios, $5.65. Nicholas Stark, $5. And Dwayne Spellman Jr., $1.53. He's going to do that forever.

1:14:28 And I love that. Thank you so much. Absolutely. WGTDT donations.com is where you can go to support us, WGTDT Donations.com. Our website, WGTD.com, goes to our Substack. If it pops up and says you need to subscribe, you can subscribe for free. There's no cost at all. We love it if you want to support us with a monthly or one-time donation, but you'll see there's an option there if it pops. It doesn't pop up for everybody, but sometimes Substack likes to throw some stuff in there to help, I guess, to help people and help themselves. But look for none. You don't have to. And that way you'll get the newsletter.

1:15:09 And whenever we have a new episode, you'll get that as well. And thank you to all these people who supported us. Value for value, for we get to do this. All right. Brother, what else you got? Brother, if not, we should land this plane, I guess. One last thing. I'd like to share a daily grind from yesterday because this is something that keeps coming up. You know, when people start saying things around you and you hear it several times, the same thing, you start to think, okay, I think God may be saying something here because he'll bring things in multiples. And something that's been coming up lately is just people feeling like they're under attack or in fighting some kind of spiritual warfare or something.

1:15:49 So I pulled up James 4:7. It says, Submit yourselves, therefore, to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you. So I want to just read the daily grind from yesterday because I feel like it may help people realize kind of what's going on. There is a bigger thing going on than politics, family. There's a bigger thing going on than AI and data centers and Tallarico. So just know there's much bigger things happening. And what we're seeing in a lot of things are just the outflows and manifestations of something that's happening much bigger around us. And a lot of it's just distraction. And look over here. So this is, I call it the spiritual battle, spiritual authority. Hardly a week goes by when someone doesn't tell me, Pastor, I'm under spiritual attack.

1:16:31 Well, you were born again into a world at war. However, God equipped you to win spiritual battles the day you said yes to Jesus. So listen to what that scripture says: Submit to God, resist the devil, and he will flee. So when your identity in Christ is secure, your stand against the enemy will be effective. And if the battle will not dominate your time or energy, because that's what happens a lot. So today, do this. Pause, submit yourself to God, realign your heart with his, and turn to the one who has conferred his authority upon you. So here's a prayer for that. Father, I submit to your hand of a protection and care.

1:17:15 I stand in your authority and resist the enemy. Thank you for the gift of freedom. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. And as a new believer, I can attest it works. It works. It really does. Thank you, brother. I can't wait to be back home. Oh, I miss you, bro. Big time. Yep. Well, we are getting on the plane tomorrow, and we'll be back next Wednesday with another one. We get to do this. See you then, everybody. This is the life we've been blessed with. This is a gift for you.