D-Day

00:00 Father, we are grateful today for your grace. We are thankful for your mercy. We are thankful for what modern translations say patience, but what the classic King James says, long suffering, that you suffer long with us. And you do that because you love us. You're patient. You're not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. So thank you, Father, for your blanket of grace over this world, drawing you back to yourself. No matter what's going on in this world, Lord, we trust you. You've ordered our steps. You delight in the details of our lives. And we get to do this. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, April 13th, 2026. We get to do this. This is episode number 32.

00:46 This is the life we've been blessed with. This is a gift for the kids and do this. This is a chance we dare not miss. This is the life we get to do this. Yes, we do. And we get to do it transatlantic this week. How you doing, brother? Brother, we are over the pond right now. I mean, maybe under. We may be under. Is this over or under? I'm not sure. No, I'm actually at the airport. I'm actually below sea level, believe it or not. Oh, wow. Yeah, I think Schiphol Airport is where we're in the hotel. And I think it's like nine feet below sea level, technically.

01:29 So, right? I'm pretty cool. I'm underwater. You're underwater, brother. So I'm in Amsterdam. So cool. My brother Jimmy is in the Fredericksburg Bridge Church studio. This is so odd. I mean, I've done remotes for 20 years longer than that. Oh, with John Dvorak, sure. But not to be sitting there looking at you is weird. It is. I'm talking to an empty chair over here. And if I close my eyes, it's the same, though. You know, right here. It sounds like you're right here. I mean, sounds like you're right here in the studio.

02:11 So I got to tell you right off the bat, brother. You know, and I love that, you know, of course, we get your daily grind every single morning. Well, it's when we get it, it's afternoon over here. Right. And I love reading about Paul. And, you know, you had some really good one this week about the state of the, you know, the prison that he was in. It wasn't just a prison. I mean, this was like literal hell on earth. And so, but, and I say this because being here in Amsterdam, I got to be honest, I feel kind of removed from God.

02:48 Oh, wow. Yeah. And I'm not sure exactly what it is. Well, maybe it's because the streets here are filled with women with hijabs. There's not a lot of symbolism. It feels distant. So it's actually been very helpful to read your daily grinds. I'm like, what am I complaining about? What am I complaining about, man? Look at Paul. Look at what he was going through. I know, right? Well, when I did the deep dive study on that, it's called a carseur or carsair. And it's like the worst, it is literal hell on earth. And it's the worst prison situation that the Romans could develop or could create.

03:32 It was basically a holding cell for them waiting to die or be imputed more punishment. So, I mean, it's like to get thrown into what they call the inner prison, which is underground. It's a dungeon. There's no light in there. There is, obviously, there's poop and crap everywhere. There's rodents. There's decaying bodies because a lot of times when someone would die there, they just leave them. They wouldn't even come get the bodies until whenever. And they did that to torture. It was a torture chamber. Yeah. Chamber of horrors. So being here, it just doesn't feel very spiritual in the country.

04:15 But here's the weird thing. This coming Thursday, the whole country has a vacation day because they are celebrating Hamelfart Dach, which translates literally to heaven travel day, i.e., Ascension Day. Interesting. Which is 40 days after Easter. So I guess this is after Acts and everything, and Jesus has been hanging out, and now he ascends back up to heaven. Do we even have, do we celebrate Ascension Day at all? Some of the older mainline denominational churches, you know, that are more iconoclastic, they celebrate things like that. You know, for us, you know.

04:59 know, it's like Jesus ascends. You know, he tells his disciples, you know, go there for and make disciples of all the nations. And he's taken up. And for us, man, we're just, we're on the mission. So, you know, we're looking back. Well, here they have mattress sales. We're on. We're there. They have mattress sales here. Hell man. You get a day off. You know, our whole, we're just on mission. That's it. I mean, we slow down to a degree, you know, to celebrate and whatnot to pause. But really, I mean, we're so in the mission.

05:36 It kind of reminds me of George Whitfield, you know, the great, you know, he was in England, then he came over to America during the colony days to preach the gospel. And there's a great movie that we watched the other night called A Great Awakening. And, you know, I just, the way I see George Whitfield is the way I see ourselves, you know, we're just on mission. We're doing what God told us to do. So we're not pausing a lot. Now we pause for Easter, but we really don't even pause. We run through it because it's a celebration for us. You know, I mean, there's holidays built around Christmas and various things. But at the end of the day, I mean, we just don't stop.

06:18 We just keep going. Yeah. But that's cool that they do that. I mean, I wonder if anyone thinks about it, what it actually means. Well, this actually came up as we were leaving Rotterdam. We've been with my daughter for the past couple of days. Our granddaughter is on the way. She's now 31 weeks. So we're getting down to the final wire. Congratulations. Oh, man. I got to tell you. Love it. Just wait. We just did a 4D ultrasound. Oh, wow. I don't know if you've ever heard ultra. I thought it was 3D. Well, 4D. They're talking 4. So what happens is,

07:00 we should have this in Fredericksburg. If not only for the coolness, but also just to excite people about their children. So you know, she has this whole studio, and it's a regular ultrasound, except there's a huge flat screen on the wall, and she has all this mood lighting, and she can actually do blue or pink because she can do a gender reveal right there for you. Oh, nice. But on the screen, so you have the, you see the traditional 2D scan, right? We've all seen that, the black and white. Like, what am I looking at? Is that a radar scope? I mean, is there a bogey coming at me from

07:37 two o'clock? But then she hits a button, and then you actually see the baby's face appear right before you, and it's moving. And she stuck her tongue out at us. And it's kind of like a clay type texture that it looks like, but it was just mind-blowing. And then, so, anyway, so the point was, we're leaving, and they say, well, because Christina's still working, so you got to work. She says, no, not Thursday because of Hamel Fire. I said, you know, I never thought about that. What exactly says, well, doesn't Jesus go up to heaven? I said, well, hold on. That was three, you know, that was Easter. And I'm like, oh, it's Ascension Day. And so that's how he came to it.

08:20 So I don't think many people understand the significance of it, really. I think they just think mattress sale. Unfortunately, that's what they think. So, brother, how's everything going there stateside? You know, we're flying back tomorrow, but I need a report, man. What's happening? What's going on? Well, I mean, we had a huge Sunday because it's Mother's Day. We almost had 700 folks in the house. Oh, wow. Just an amazing atmosphere. I mean, it was just, honestly, it was a fun day. Is it okay to say have fun in church? I think so. A blast. First of all, worship was rocking. I mean, wow, just watching, you know, the whole

09:02 place just together, you know, just, it's family. I mean, this is, yeah, this is family reunion every Sunday, two times, you know, with a meetup in between. So, man, it was just a great day. I finished the thing on the four soils, and during the middle of it, I just got real caught up and excited and having fun because I just, I said, I kind of chastised them in a loving way. I said, man, you guys are so white. I need you to talk back. I need you to. I need some. And so I taught him how to do it. I taught him the power of agreement. And that when you speak out loud and you respond to the preacher, you're saying, I'm in agreement with that.

09:43 I'm in alignment with that. Yes. So I went through a whole litany of ways to do it. And people started doing it. And it all just got out of hand. Oh, I love it. I love it. This was fun. Now, will that carry on? People left laughing and high-fiving. And, you know, I know that sounds maybe to some people indignant or whatever, irreligious. It is kind of irreligious, but it was so much fun and there was such life in the house. And, you know, there are just some Sundays where you come in and heavy things have happened in the world. There's been death or war or bombings. And, you know, it just seems like there's a never-ending litany of pain and suffering.

10:24 And then some Sundays you come in and you just say, We're pushing all of that away and we're just going to have some fun. We're going to laugh. We're going to enjoy each other. We're going to talk about the goodness of God. We're going to learn some things. We're going to worship. We're going to praise God. We're going to have a good time. And it seems like a foreign concept to so many Christians that you can actually enjoy this thing. You can enjoy being a follower of Jesus. And the scripture says that Jesus, who for the joy set before him, he despised the shame, looking forward to what was ahead. You know, and it talks about he was anointed with the oil of joy more than all of his brethren. So, I mean, if there was anyone who was a life of a party, it would have been Jesus.

11:08 Not that he was a clown or dorky about it, but he was just, he was so full of life and so full of joy because he understood what was coming for the human race. He understood redemption and something to look forward to. And it's so interesting here in Europe, in the Netherlands. Now, there are churches that are somewhat similar to ours. There are some, and these are churches that don't even have a church building. They meet in school auditoriums, et cetera. And they do have worship bands. I know they're here, but they're not very many. But to the general population, even the concept of contemporary Christian music,

11:49 they're like, what? I say, well, here, listen to this. I'm loading up Godcaster on everybody's phone. Like, I check this out. And they're like, wow, this is pretty good. They have no concept of it, Jimmy. They've never heard of it. They don't even know it exists. To them, church is boring, is very strict, and they don't understand. I mean, if you say, well, we're kind of like a white version of a gospel church, a black church, like, oh, okay, I get it. Because they've all seen that makes a little more sense. They've all seen Whoopi Goldberg, right? So they've all seen Sister Act. So they kind of understand a little bit what that means. But no, it's just so far removed.

12:31 Now, still, we're here. You know, we went out to dinner with some people, and they're not believers. Hey, do you mind? We're just going to pray. We just hold hands and pray. And you can, and I love it so much because they're like, oh, okay. And then, you know, and when you say amen, they can't help themselves but to say amen. They can't help themselves. I love it. And no one ever says no. They never say, oh, I'm not going to do that. You're crazy. I'm not going to do that. So we're bringing the good news. We're doing our best. I love that, brother. Trying to let everybody do it. You're leaking out. You're leaking out. Yes, we are. I mean, and it's not complicated. You just be yourself.

13:13 Yes. You be yourself full of Jesus. Yeah. So I found something for the show today. Yeah, I did do a little bit of prep, regardless. Right now, it's five minutes to 11 p.m. over here. Oh, wow. Didn't know it was that late. Yeah, it's all right. I've been living on the wrong side of the clock for a week now. And this is, I got this, a couple of clips here. I got this because I was watching this interview of a guy named, let me see, he's Professor Egnore, E-G-N-O-R, professor of neurosurgery at Stony Brook University.

13:54 And he wrote this book called The Immortal Mind. And I know that you love thinking about the brain, brain plasticity, how our neurons fire, how they work, how that interacts with the word of God, with thinking, with praying, et cetera. And what caught me, I'll play this first clip and then we can delve into it a little bit, was, and again, this is a neurosurgeon that he sees that the brain does certain things, but not some very important things that people think the brain does.

14:36 And when I heard this, I'm like, oh, my brother Jimmy will love this. This will be right up his alley. So listen to this first clip. There are several ways of figuring out whether an organ does something. One way is to stay. stimulate the organ and get it to do it so you can prove it does it. The other way is to inhibit the organ from doing it and prove that when the organ's inhibited, it doesn't happen. Well, that can happen with the brain. While it is true that if you suppress the brain, we can't use reason and free will very well. If you get hit on the head with a baseball bat, your reasoning and your free will is going to be a little messed up for a while. There's a way of stimulating the brain to test whether reason and free will come from it using

15:20 electrical stimulation. And there are different kinds of electrical stimulation. One kind of electrical stimulation is seizures. Seizures are just random sparks that happen inside the brain, out of the blue, that can have all kinds of effects. And one of the things that I've looked at rather carefully is the phenomenology of seizures. It is what happens when you have a seizure. And I've looked over the past couple hundred years, reviewed the medical literature of that. And what we find is rather remarkable. First of all, not all seizures make you go unconscious. There are many seizures that leave you conscious, and your body does things that you can't control.

16:01 And they're called complex partial seizures. And there have been probably a quarter of a billion seizures in human beings over the past 200 years. If you just look at the instance of seizures in the world population. And there's never been a recorded case of a seizure causing someone to express reason or free will. You can elicit from the brain by stimulating it movement, perception, memory, and emotion, but you can never elicit reason or free will. No matter where you stimulate the brain, you can't make a person say one plus one is two, or say, if A, then B, A, therefore B, modus ponens. Or say,

16:47 I believe that it's nice to be kind, which is a moral viewpoint. So that goes right along with what is found in seizures: that you can stimulate the brain any which way, and reason and free will never come out of the brain. So it's perfectly reasonable to infer that reason and free will don't naturally come from the brain, because you can't make the brain do it. So it was the free will part that got me, obviously, because that's what God gave us. He gave us free will to believe in him, to believe in Jesus, or not, or to, you know, to choose whichever path we want to take.

17:26 And it really made me think, and the other one is reasoning, which is important for a different reason I'll get to. But the free will part, I'm like, okay, so if that doesn't come from the brain, where does that come from? And this guy has done the work. And spoiler alert, his conclusion is it comes from the good. It comes from the soul. Wow. And so, and again, this is a neuroscientist. A young person, I was a materialist and an atheist. I was raised in a rather secular environment. I was never hostile to religion. I just didn't think it was true. And I kind of worshiped science.

18:08 I still love science. I don't worship it, but I still love it. And so I went to medical school. I wanted to be a doctor. And in medical school, I fell in love with neuroscience. And I was fascinated by the relationship between the brain and the mind. Like, how did that work? So I became a neurosurgeon, in part because I wanted to understand more about that. And so I began seeing in my career patients that didn't fit the materialist picture. My textbooks in medical school described the brain as like a computer, it's like the hardware, and the mind was like the software, and that's how things worked. And we have detailed neuroanatomical studies of the structure of the frontal lobes and all these things.

18:54 But I had patients who were missing major parts of their brains who were perfectly normal people. It's as if you have a laptop and it works perfectly, and then you open it up and you find out that your hard drive is like two-thirds missing. Then how does my laptop work? It's a perplexing question. And so I began looking more deeply into the neuroscience of the mind-brain relationship. And I came across this rather astonishing, but quite verifiable result that reason and free will don't seem to come from the brain. And interestingly enough, that's what the classical philosophers thought. That was what Aristotle said 2,300 years ago.

19:40 So he goes, this whole interview was so fascinating where he talks about. you often talk about loving Jesus, 18 differences, 18 inches between the head and the heart. And it's so fascinating. He goes into this incredible depth about the soul. And, you know, no one can point to it and say, oh, well, that's where your soul is. But he's figured it out. He says these two things, free will and reasoning, do not come from the brain. They come from the soul. I was just blown away by that. Now, I missed where he landed a conclusion about, you know, he was an atheist and a materialist as a young man.

20:24 Then he worships science. Did he make a switch at some point? Yes, he did. He's a believer. Again, you know, the problem with this guy, you know, as a scientist, if you want to pull clips, you might as well listen to eight minutes of it. And I'm like, that's a little bit too much. But here. Well, I'm just curious. Yeah. Yeah. No, he is like many, many scientists these days. In fact, more scientists are coming to Christ believers saying, you know, it's crazier. You need more leaps of faith to not believe in God than you do to believe in him.

21:02 And I'm seeing this more and more and more. And, well, I do have one more clip, and he kind of, you know, again, he's looked at conjoined twins who share the same brain. You know, you can rub one of their arms and the other one feels it. One can actually see through the other's eyes, but both of them have individual free will and reasoning apart from the other. So it's not, it's not in the brain. Here's the last clip. It's short. So going back to something you said earlier, that reason and free will are immaterial aspects or parts of the person, powers of the person, immaterial.

21:43 What does that even mean? Immaterial means that the source of these powers is not a physical thing. It's not a physical object. And immaterial is actually a fairly simple concept. For example, numbers are immaterial. That is, the number 12 is an immaterial thing. That is, you can't say, well, the number 12 is located today in Cincinnati and it weighs five pounds. I mean, it's just, it doesn't make any sense. So there are many, many, many things that we think about, many things that are quite real. They're called universals in philosophy that are very real but are not matter.

22:29 And reason and free will are abilities we have whose source is our soul, but not our brain. And wow. And when I hear this, you know, all I can hear is Wendy singing it as well with my soul. Yes. In scripture, how many times does the soul come out as being this important? Do you know? Well, I mean, the soul, okay, the soul is called the Sukhay in the Greek. That's the Greek word for it. And it really means it's the center or the seat of your mind, will, and emotions. That's your soul. So your soul kind of sums up the whole of who you are.

23:15 Instead of seeing you as a bunch of individual parts stuck together, and now you're a human being with arms and legs and a head and all that. The soul is the Sukhay is the essence of who you are with all that combined. So it's immaterial. I like what he said about that. It's immaterial in the sense that you can't place a you can't say, oh, that's the soul, or is he a soul? You know, you can't define that. It's beyond definition. There are some scriptures that speak to this idea of free will, but I like the part about reasoning as well.

23:51 Cause to me, as a believer, I don't check my brains at the door. I don't walk into church and just go, okay, well, now just throw everything out and I'm just going in brain dead, you know, or so open that everything evaporates out. I mean, I'm not losing myself in that. So listen to this. Genesis 1.26. Then God said, let us make man in our image, in our likeness. So God created man in his own image. And so there it is. I mean, the scripture also says that God breathed into man and he became a living soul. So there are many, many references to free will, to soul, but also to this idea of reasoning.

24:30 We've not been given a spirit of fear, the scripture says, but of power and of love and of a sound mind, the ability to think well, strategize well. reason well. And then another scripture says, We've been given that, we have the mind of Christ. And the amplified says, and we hold his thoughts, feelings, and purposes. So we have the mind of Christ. So all of that, if you factor all those scriptures together, I really love the Genesis scripture because it gets into what's called in Latin the Imago De. That's image of God in Latin. And I love that because is it talking about our shape image if you think just visually, but really it's thinking about our essence and who we are.

25:14 And it's that living soul, that really unidentifiable thing. I've seen, and you've probably seen this too online. You know, there's some things going around where they think they have been able to photograph the first spark of life, you know, in a cell. Yeah. You know, and an A and a sperm come together and that spark is life. And it could be, it could very well be that they captured that moment, but it's still beyond definition. I mean, what causes the light? How does that even work? Where does it come from? I mean, there's so many questions out there. And I love that the Bible, God seems to be selective in what He lets us know and understand.

25:55 It's almost like He keeps things, some things at a mystery level. And I've told people for years: look, if you don't have room for mystery in your walk of faith, you're going to be a very disappointed and miserable believer. Right on. You've got to leave space for mystery. And so I love the idea of this soul and reasoning, and yet, like the number 12, it's not in Cincinnati and weighs five pounds. I love that. That was a great metaphor. I'll probably use that again. That was good. But I like that. It's that intangible, not definable, and immaterial thing.

26:37 And that really is what sets us apart from animals. So here's what I liked about it, besides, you know, obviously the free will, but reasoning, this really struck me because one of the things that happened in the past year and a half with our robots with a so-called artificial intelligence is these new models came out and they said, oh, we now have reasoning models. Look at these things reasoning. And it dispelled that immediately for me when I heard this.

27:13 Like, oh, that's bull crap. These things aren't, they can't reason because they're trying to simulate a brain and that's not where it comes from. And that really put me in a whole different mind space. And in fact, there was some really good article I read by, was it who was this guy who wrote this, John Ennis Heaven on Earth. And it's, and he, he goes, he goes into artificial intelligence. He says, you know, this idea that's going to take away our jobs. No, no, because these things can do certain things.

27:51 It certainly can't reason. It certainly can't feel. It can't come up with the original spark for an idea. And it can't, at the end of the process, say, yeah, this is good. Yeah, this is what it has to be. It can't do that. And I've witnessed that myself. I think you've witnessed it as well. It's like at the end, if you're using your logo system to put together a sermon, at the end, the thing doesn't say, this is it. It's perfect. It may, but that's not the determining factor. You're the one that says, not quite. I need something here. And it really puts it. We can do something a bot can't do.

28:33 That is, we can discern context. We discern the nuances. We can, you know, people call it reading the room, right? You walk into an atmosphere, a room, and you read the room. If you're good at that, comedians are really good at that. A lot of actors are good at it. A lot of preachers are good at it. You read the room and you know these, you sense these nuances, so many intangibles there. Sometimes it's a feeling, it's a sense, it's a sound, it's recognizing a face or smile or a frown or posture. There's a thousand million, there's a million nuances to reading a room. And a bot can't do that and never will be able to do that or to read a person.

29:17 A machine has no grandmother. It has no childhood. It has no body. Yeah, that has spent years building associations between molecule and feeling. It can't decide what to work on. Values don't come from data, they come from. from living in a body that feels things. And I love this because it put everything into perspective. And I think if we all look at it that way and say, this thing can never have a soul that can reason or can have free will, it never can because it's simulating something that doesn't actually have those properties.

29:56 The brain doesn't do that. Right. Right. And so what it's doing is collecting data, borrowed data, borrowed experience, borrowed context, and it will never be real. It can't. Exactly. Exactly. And it will also. It can simulate, but it won't be real. It'll never take away all the jobs. It's only going to create more jobs because that's what happens every single time we come up with something that we say is going to take away jobs. Yeah, after we fired 10,000 people, you know, destroyed their livelihoods, and we're begging them to come back and fix it. So that does happen. That does happen. I'm curious to watch, and some of these larger companies have done these massive layoffs.

30:37 Yeah. And some of these dot-coms. I'm curious to see how that ends. Well, I'm pretty sure a lot of Silicon Valley companies are looking for good excuses to trim down some middle managers. Could be very well. Like, we got a lot of people. Maybe more to the story. Yeah. What are we doing? What are they doing? You know, man, AI, AI, yeah, yeah, yeah. And oh, watch that'll fix it. Watch our stock price go up. It's beautiful when we do that stuff. So anyway, man, that was fascinating. That was a great, great interview. And I'm going to be pondering. You know me, I'm a processor. So I'm going to be thinking about that because I really can see what he's talking about.

31:20 I can see it very clearly. The other thing that happened this week, you actually alerted me to it, and I had to go look into it. And I only bring it up because there's such an almost obsessive interest in end times on the internet. People want, and did you talk about this at all on Sunday? Oh, I did. There was much laughter in the house when I talked about aliens and spacecraft and UFOs. What was it? I was shocked at the response. People laughed out loud. I mean, oh good. I felt the sense. They shared my sense of absurdity.

32:05 And you know how it is in large group dynamic. You know, there may be people who laughed out loud who wouldn't, who were not laughing out loud three days ago, you know, when they were panicking, you know, reading Instagram. So, but hopefully the group think, you know, as I rolled this out and processed it out loud to help them understand, listen, guys, this stuff comes around every few years. And then I reminded them of what you said. Hey, if everybody says, come over here and look, you need to go over there and look. Because this is a psyop if there's ever been a psyop. Well, and it is a clear psyop. I wanted to take it a little bit further just to give people one extra spin on it.

32:48 And actually, so I have the, so what happened was there were actually two meetings that took place in February where pastors. I'm surprised you didn't get invited to it. You know what? I was very. Yes, I'm very surprised. Well, I remember. So the story is that there were two meetings and pastors were called into an Airbnb, one in Missouri and one in Tennessee. One of them during National Religious Broadcasters conference, and I was there. I remember vaguely someone mentioning to me, like, you know, there's some pastors and they're meeting. But I was insane running around doing meetings. I didn't really register with me.

33:32 But what happened. Oh, okay. So, but not that I was invited, but someone had mentioned it to me. Now, I'm going to have to track down who said that. But each of these pastors was on a conference call with a senator. Now, the one in Tennessee on the conference call was Senator Burchett, and he's from Tennessee. And I have to say, this guy is a believer in UFOs. He's on the committee to disclose everything, whatever that means. The other one was Senator Burleson, and he's from Missouri, and he was on the phone in Missouri. So the story kind of came out in a weird way because it was one of the, I call him the YTPs, the YouTube pastors, who

34:17 kind of took the, and we don't have a recording of the conference call, so we don't know exactly what was said. But here's his version of what was said, which he later had to retract. But I just wanted to play this so we can get an idea of how these things get launched. Ten Philip Pastors invited to come to a private meeting with a group of men who are connected with the intelligence world that are believers, but are still have very high security clearance. These are legit, true men of God that are still connected to Washington and even this current administration and all branches of military. And they literally told us: we had a sitting congressman, a very well-known congressman from Missouri. He was called into that meeting as well that was just for pastors. And this is what he said.

35:02 On speakerphone, this sitting, powerful member of Congress said, Are the pastors listening to me? I'm getting chills right now because this happened to me. He said, Are the pastors in the room listening to me? And I said, Yes, sir, we are here. And he said, Listen to me. Go and tell the church they are not ready for what is coming. The narrative that is coming, what they are going to say, is going to be like nothing you can even imagine. They are preparing to tell us that they are from another dimension, that they are our creator, and that these beings, these aliens, or whatever you want to call them, they were the ones that seated us here.

35:41 There is no such thing as God. Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them. And begin to just say, Listen, prepare the people for what is coming because they're not ready. But he loved us so much, he made sure that he told us exactly the blueprint to study. He said, Study the days of Noah. And if you can understand how Noah responded, that's how you're going to have to respond. Okay, so this went viral. I'm sure many people who are listening have heard about it or seen it. He had to retract it, and it was a walk it back. I mean, the retraction was: well, he didn't exactly say that, but then I kind of continued how I normally do my show. And so that's the kind of stuff he's usually talking about. I've been doing this embarrassing.

36:23 I've been looking at this stuff for a long time for almost two decades. And I just want to tell our people who listen in our church. And if there's any other people anywhere outside of who listen, I'm glad you're here. This always happens for two reasons. Sometimes, actually, maybe they're always connected. The code word you want to be on the lookout for, and you'll hear it in the reports when you hear about UFOs, UAPs, aliens, et cetera. You see videos, you know, the president released a whole website, which kind of looked like the X-Files.

37:02 I'm like, wow, this is great. And it had the same videos we've seen, flying Tic Tacs and all this stuff. And the reports will always say it might be a UFO, a UAP. And this is always followed by, it may also be some military technology from another country that we don't know about. And the reason they say that is that is a trigger for money. And you will see the defense budget going up by half a trillion dollars to make sure that if this stuff that we see on these videos, which no one can explain, if it just might happen to be some technology that we don't have that some other country has, we need to start

37:51 preparing for that. It's always about that. And the secondary one, and you can put money on this, there is always an entertainment product that goes with it. And in this case, the entertainment product that goes with this, and now mind you, the term disclosure is key here. So in the government, we need full disclosure. We need disclosure, disclosure, disclosure. Well, on June 12th in IMAX, you will have full disclosure brought to you by Universal Studios and Steven Spielberg. I've always been fascinated with things that cannot be explained. What is it?

38:31 You wouldn't believe me if I told you. So I'm going to show you. And I've made a lot of movies about things that cannot be explained. From sharks to saucers. Do you think there could be others? When I was just a little kid, I remember developing a real curiosity about the sky at night and what's happening up there. People have a worry to know the truth. And also, not the possibility, but the guarantee that there is life off this planet. People came wandering, encountering the unknown. People's questions about what is not only going on in our skies, but what is going on in our worlds, in our realities, has reached a critical mass of people's complete fascination with are we alone or are we not alone?

39:14 They are starved for the truth. And if someone knows we're not alone, why haven't we been told? Full disclosure to the whole world all at once. Yes. Disclosure Day is the name of it, coming to IMAX Jr. Wow. I want to see it. That was a great trailer. Of course. You know, I was thinking the whole time listening, first of all, did Spielberg script that out? That was amazing. Secondly, he's going to bank on this. This is what people are so afraid of. I mean, the timing of this. How did he know two years ago to make this movie?

39:53 I mean, come on. Well, if you look at the movies he's made, do you know that the Department of War, formerly known as the Department of Defense, they have probably participated in 8,000 movies? I mean, Top Gun. No, I did not know that. Top Gun? Oh, come on. They deliberately. You know, it makes sense, though. And Steven Spielberg has had all kinds of contact with the Department of Defense in the past for a lot of his movies. Some people think he actually works in cahoots. I can't prove that. But the coincidence of this term disclosure, disclosure, disclosure, it gets ramped up. We've got Disclosure Day, the movie. We've got Disclosure. And then always,

40:38 it just may, you know, we got to think about a new military budget in case it's not UFOs, just in case. So it all works together, folks. It all works together. Wow. And even if we didn't know all that, our God is the God of the heavens. So that's the heaven we see, the heaven we don't see. I mean, you should probably take it from here, but when I think about all of the heavens and everything in there, the angels, the demons, whatever, the heavenly bodies, who knows what it is?

41:16 I don't think we have to worry about it so much. Well, you know, the term extraterrestrial gets thrown around a lot, but what we really should be talking about is extra-dimensional. There you go. Because what we're talking about is another kingdom, another world. It is parallel. It is alongside of this one. And we don't know how many dimensions there are. The Bible's not clear on that. But it is very clear that there are other realms. And in those realms, there are nefarious and dark actors called demons. And the scripture talks about demons, how they can literally disguise themselves as an angel of light. You know, they can present themselves as, I am here to help you. Right.

42:01 And in the scriptures, it just, it opens up that there is a full other realm. It's so funny because people go, oh, I cannot believe the Bible because it talks about all this fantasy and all these other dimensions and realms and heaven and hell and all this stuff. And yet they're running off chasing this stuff like it's the last plane out of Vietnam. It's like, man, I got to get to this stuff. It's amazing. And so it's really, it's mind-bending. You know, Frank Turek wrote a book called, I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. And you alluded to that earlier. I love that line. And yeah, Frank Turek. And so I'm seeing this happen and I'm seeing people get worked up, spun up.

42:44 You know, people like to think that they know something that others don't. You know, it's called esoteric knowledge. And I've brought this up before, but it bears bringing up again. People love to have the inside scoop. I mean, whether you're a podcaster or not, you just, you want to know in the middle of your friend's group, hey, I know something you don't. Let me tell you. Let me inform you. And there's a real platforming that happens in the psyche and in the mind of, you know, I'm going to look good in my friend's eyes or I'm going to look good in this peer group because I know something they don't. And that's very common. So I'm watching this kind of unfold and I'm watching like this pastor.

43:28 You know, I bet when he got that information, he was, you can hear his voice how excited he was. He was loving this. And instead of being, man, this is instead of being sober-minded, he was, he reminded me of the weather channel when there's a hurricane. Exactly. And you're thinking, man, Cantori, you're a little too excited about this, bro. I mean, this is dangerous. People are, you know, I know this makes your year, you know, but it's kind of that, should we be excited about this or should we be sober-minded? And the scripture talks about living sober-minded. And in Thessalonians, I was reading this morning.

44:07 And it was talking about being sober-minded. Be clear-headed. Don't be drunk on the world. Be alive in Christ and clear, clear-minded. And so I just see a passage. pastor like this, and I know the temptation of that. Yeah. You know, we've got enough people in our big town of Fredericksburg that have been some places. I mean, they've been in meetings. They've been in closed door meetings. They've been in D.C. They've been in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, you name it. They've been in, and they love to saddle up beside you and say, wow, brother, you're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you.

44:49 I hear this at least three or four times a week. Or I'll get a text or I'll be in a text group and, you know, oh man, just wait till this all comes. It's about to go down, brother. I hear this all the time. Pastor Jimmy, man, we got to prepare our people. It's all about to go down. I've heard this for years. And I'm like, well, what is about to mean? Clarify. So that's what we're seeing right now. So I'm really, man, just sort of embarrassed. I'm sad for this pastor because he should have come back with a repentant spirit and said, you know what? I jumped the gun. I missed some things. I got excited about this. And just have the character and the humility to say, wow, swing and a miss.

45:30 I missed that. I made a mistake. Yeah, but that's his entire show is doing that. And the groovy thing is, is that we actually have something. We have some information. Guess what the information is? Yes, we do, brother. You know, the information is that, yeah, extra-dimensional, supernatural. Absolutely. Can't really explain it. Got to have some mysticism in life. And even the angels don't know exactly when it's all coming down. So you don't have to worry about it. Live long and prosper, my brothers. That's right. Occupy until he returns. I mean, we've got work to do, and it has nothing to do with chasing flying saucers. And I told our people, I said, leave your high school telescope in the closet.

46:15 Do not run out at night, you know, looking, scouring the skies for objects, bananas and flying saucers. So, you know, we laughed about it because I wanted to break up some of the tension in the room because there's the elephant in the room. And we had a good time and a good laugh about it. And I said, guys, none of this is new. We've been aware of other dimensions for thousands of years. And then all of a sudden we're told this is it. And they're about to tell us that they seeded the planet, that God doesn't exist. Well, you know, okay, leave it up to the Antichrist to say something like that. But I don't see him yet.

46:52 And that's really conspiracy. That's really the only danger, I think, is that the enemy uses this to get us spun up, to keep us spun up, to keep us on edge, to keep us going down paths that make no sense. Keep us distracted. Yeah, that is a real danger that we should be on the lookout for. But on the other hand, I'm buying the tickets for the IMAX, brother. I can't wait to see Disclosure Day. It's going to be awesome. We should go together. The four of us are going to dinner day. Definitely. Dinner in a movie. Let's go have a good time and laugh and enjoy it. And we're going to hear a lot of phrases. Even in that trailer, I heard phrases that people say to me all the time and like, man, you know,

47:36 when I tell you this, you're not going to believe it. I know that kind of thing, or if I were to tell you this, you'd never believe it. I literally, I could write the script of that trailer just from people in church. I'm not lying. Something about Fredericksburg, too. And we got people that are connected, or at least they tell me they are, you know, to things. Well, also. I get this all the time. Just as an aside, believers are moviegoers. So, you know, we're a willing target. And I will give them 12 bucks. You will, man, it'll be a great time out with the Curries. You get to hang out and have a fun time. But it'll be good show material. In the next week, we'll go, all right, we saw this movie.

48:19 It's going to be fantastic. We've been watching this movie since I was born, basically, because the whole world has been like this ever since I can remember. There's always something coming. It's always about to happen. Yeah, I've been through a lot of conspiracy theories, and I can safely say most of them are kind of conspiracy. There's a couple of them that I have my opinions on, but the one that I love the most was searching for God and searching for Jesus. And it only took me two weeks to go, yeah, this one's the real deal. This one I can confidently say is the real deal. Well, brother, I got to say, you've got me watching the two towers a lot more closely, and you've got me watching the bouncing buggy on the moon, too, you know, and going, okay, man, that is pretty fake.

49:03 I got my thoughts on that. Why haven't we been back there? Apparently, we're going. You got me wondering. All right, brother. It's 11:30 here, so I'm going to pack it in for the night. But I'm glad we were able to do this transatlantic connection because I wanted to make sure that we keep our regular weekly show going. If only because I don't like it walking in Sunday and people going, hey, man, what happened? Where's the show, man? What have you? What happened to this show? We're going to do one this week. What's going on with that? Yeah. The sound of disdain. Hey, do tell Kevin and Christina, send our love.

49:40 We're so proud of them and proud for them. And tell Tina we miss her too. I mean, we miss you guys. So we're looking forward to having you back in the Texas Hill Country soon. And then we've got a big trip coming up. We do. We're going to Nashville, going to K-Love, and we'll have a lot to talk about for sure. That's right. We'll be in the biodome. All right, brother. Have yourself a great couple of days. We'll see you in church on Sunday. We'll be there. All right. Much love, brother. Bye-bye. And we will be back on Wednesday. That's right. We keep doing it because we get to do this. We'll see you next week. Bye-bye. This is the life we've been blessed with. This is a gift for you.

50:20 This is a chance we dare not miss. This is the life we get to do this night.