71: Seven Shots

00:04 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 23rd, 2021. This is episode number 71. We are back one week after the lost tapes. Time for another full-on Mo Facts with Adam Curry. I am Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country, and we will be spinning that wheel of topics once again with the man who knows how it goes from Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mo Facts. How are you doing, Adam? I am. Well, now that I'm talking to you, Mo, I'm doing great. Yes. To be honest, I've had too many white opinions the past week. They're abundant. Yes.

00:47 As I was telling Tina, I said, well, I'm pretty sure I know where I'm not 100% because, you know, we don't really discuss much before the show. I said, I'm pretty sure what will be included somehow in today into this week's program. I'm like, I cannot wait to talk to Mo. I'm so excited. It was the unavoidable. I intentionally kind of stayed away from this until I knew we were going to have to do a show on it. And say, I guess we can go ahead and spin the wheel. Yeah, that's it. Round and round it goes. The wheel of Topic Square stops. Nobody knows. But of course, Mo Fax knows because he's put it all together for us. So what is the topic for episode number 71 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry?

01:29 We're under real threat. Under real threat. Um, threat? Under real threat. Under a real threat. Okay. Under a real threat. And that's Dr. Reverend Al Sharpton. Don't give him more credit now with this doctor. Eventually it's coming. That's the new business model. But we got to talk about Cal. Yes. Renton House, aka Killer Cal, aka Cal the Kid, depending on what side you're on. And as you said, the opinions are abundant on this topic. So I guess we have to weigh in on it. Yes, I will say that I watched most of the trial.

02:14 And that's great because I watched very little of the trial. Yes. Other than the clips, because when I went back and looked at it to go down that rabbit hole, I wanted it to be as unnudged as possible. Right. To use a word. Yes, exactly. No, no, this is good because I feel at least prepared for what I saw in the trial and we'll just take it from there. But yeah, opinions are, you're right, a lot of opinions about this one. I'm very excited. And just to go off the top, I really, I don't want to go to blow-by-blow.

02:54 I mean, because you've seen all the people do their law degrees, and of course, they didn't get their law to degree from SVU. Like I have. Yes, ladies and gentlemen. And that really is a fine piece of paper. I'm all in on it. Yes. Many, many hours spent doing coursework. So, yeah, so we're going to have our unique take as usual. And to start off, I guess we need to do a little timeline. And we're going to use this ABC report. On August 23rd, 2020, Jacob Blake was shot multiple times in the back by a police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after officers responded to a call about a domestic dispute, according to the Wisconsin Department of Justice.

03:47 Within hours, protests began in the city. On the night of August 25th, 2020, protesters and groups of armed men who said they were there to protect businesses gathered in Kenosha. Among the armed men was then 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse. We don't have non-lethal using multiple videos obtained and verified by ABC News, as well as the criminal complaint against Rittenhouse filed on August 27th. We put together a detailed timeline of the shootings that happened in downtown Kenosha on August 25th, 2020. Two days after Jacob Blake was shot by the police. Wow. Wow. Wow.

04:26 Wow. Okay, hold on a second. In addition to, you need to know this. In addition to the fact that I watched most of the trial, I think most of the pertinent parts, I am also right off the bat, I'll just tell you my bias. I'm of the opinion that this was a media psyop, regardless of what happened. This was a media psychological operation on the American public. And it was evident to me when the prosecution was at. bat. You know, it was CNN, MSNBC, wall to wall, and Fox was breaking in.

05:08 And when the defense was up at bat, it was the exact reverse. And I thought, okay, I got you. Message receipt. So that's my starting off take. As you know, I'm completely open to anything. And to be honest with everybody that's listening, I haven't heard your take. I did not listen to the latest episode of No Agenda for this exact point. I don't know where you're coming from on this case. And I'll say this. This is probably the hardest trial we're going to cover on an audio-only podcast because everything is so dependent upon video.

05:48 Video, yeah, exactly. Shameless plug for the lost tapes coming up next Wednesday. No, no, that's what you're supposed to do. That's how it works, Mo. It's like ABC, we do stories about our own entertainment products. That's exactly how it goes. Yes, there you go. But yeah, it's going to be very hard to translate what was seen. So that's why I didn't really go with a lot of, oh, what happened in this event? No, no, I agree. I think that it's almost unimportant for the way we look at stuff. But I totally agree. This was a psychological operation only to incite, only to

06:29 strike fear. And what it was really was a huge upskirt to Lady Justice. I think everybody is coming out and saying. I just got a visual on that and I didn't like it. No, because. But if you upscored Lady Justice and she doesn't see it, did it happen? She's always blindfolded. Exactly. But no, I think because everybody is going away from this now, seeing if the court wants you or if the prosecution wants you, they will do anything to get you.

07:06 And the weird part of this is the so-called quote-unquote black community has been saying this for decades and centuries, but now everybody's starting to catch on to say, we saw what this prosecution did, the tactics, the just all the, I mean, I didn't really cover this, but like actually to speak on the video quality, how they play games with the video quality of the videos they use, the suppression of evidence. So the bright side of this for me is everybody is going to be critical of the justice system moving forward because it's not so justice after all.

07:51 In the end, it was, but we see the tactics that are used to get somebody that they want to target. So I actually have not discussed the psychological operation on No Agenda yet. I was planning maybe on doing that third. Actually, my opinion may be adjusted after today's show. So what's interesting while you say, look at the prosecution, they'll do anything to get you. What actually happened after the verdict is that that exact thing was used in reverse because all I heard MSNBC and CNN saying, and it was very clear division between them and Fox, was

08:33 if this was a black man, he would have been in jail for 25 years. And so what's weird is, yeah, they're not wrong. Let me refine that point. If it would have been a black man without $2 million for his defense, he would have been in jail. The only reason why Kyle got off was the amount of support that came out for him in Legal Fund to do all the groundwork and everything that needed to be done to present his case. Because it's clear that the prosecution wanted him.

09:12 But let's not get too far ahead because what I want to do is we got to go back to the Jacob Blake case, which was the whole. Yes, the genesis of it all. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to see how hard they pushed this to even be an issue, the Kyle Rittenhouse case that I'm speaking of, because the Jacob Blake situation was a non-starter. So what now we have to do is go back into time and go back and look at the law, the facts, the truth of Jacob Blake. Now, my handle is Nate the lawyer. And welcome to my YouTube spot. I am a former law enforcement officer, former prosecutor, and I taught at a law school for the past two years.

09:53 Currently, I'm a private attorney, and I. do private practice as a black law enforcement officer, as a former black prosecutor, and as a black attorney, I think it's important to look at both the law and the facts of any incident before you pass judgment. The most important thing about my videos is that you are the judge. You get to decide whether things are justified or unjustified. And we do that by looking at the facts and the law dispassionately. Now, we do have to understand the cultural context of the times we're living in. Racism plays a factor in some of these things, but not always. And we have to understand when race does play a factor and when it does not, because those are two important questions we have to answer.

10:39 So we're going to try to see if we can answer those questions today with the case of Robert Blake. But to do that, I'm going to need more of your attention than I usually do. I'm going to need to both teach you law, show you examples, and then apply the law to Mr. Blake's situation. That's the only way we're going to get a clear understanding of what happened. Now, this is a well-known YouTube attorney. Yes, this is Nate the lawyer. And I think he does the best work. He's on a hot street right now as far as the number of cases he's called correctly. And we're going to be using him throughout the show. I'm sorry to do this.

11:20 I just want to throw back to just before we got into this. I think it's important, at least for the producers. I'm in agreement with you that the $2 million defense fund was incredibly important in this outcome. And there were some other attorneys involved before, including Lynn Wood. I don't know if you're going to touch on that, but there's a lot of shystering going on there. But I just want to know: do you agree that if it was a black man who had $2 million, he also would have gotten the same verdict? Because that's kind of what the differentiator here is. It's like, would he still have gone to jail because he was black or

12:02 even have he had the same amount of resources? If he'd had the same round of resources, you would have had the same outcome. Okay. Because we saw this with OJ. When you have a lawyer, and that's the thing about America. You see businessmen followed by foul after foul after file of lawyers. This is how America works. It's like you have lawyers to watch your lawyers, you know, kind of thing, and they leave no stone unturned. If you're talking about going into this case with a public defendant against this prosecution, no, you're going to be going to be so. This is a great take on this trial. I'm so glad you're doing it this way. Okay.

12:46 We can go back to the, what's his name? The YouTube lawyer. So this is Nate the lawyer. Nate the lawyer. Nate the lawyer. Yes. So I like him already, by the way. I like how he's talking, so I like him. And I played that opening because it's kind of a great opening to the show as well that we're going to have to take things that are law and then we can also separate it and say, okay, what's the emotional impact or what we think what they don't call it, they call it justice now, but that's not real justice. Justice is by the letter of the law. Now it's about, oh, what feels right or what we think should happen.

13:26 So now Nate the lawyer is going to get into what he thought the outcome of the Jacob Blake situation should have been in Clip number four. Now I know you're going to have people out there saying that there is no evidence of institutional racism today. Those people are either lying to you or being dishonest. Now, I've said that to say this. This situation, Mr. Blake, I don't believe is one of them. Now, if you want to argue about whether the police should have responded the way they did, whether he was an actual threat, those I think are legitimate questions. Or the question of, well, how come this happens to African Americans at a disproportionate rate?

14:10 That's a conversation I think you should be willing to have. But for this particular incident, just to say that race had this overarching part in this incident, it's just hard for me to swallow. And I understand the need to boycott. I understand the need to social justice and social change. But I don't think this is the case to make that argument for. I just don't. Trayvon Martin? Yes. Walter Scott? Yes. George Floyd, obviously. Maud Arbery? Yes. This case, I'm just not there. All right. And it's amazing how they did this pairing of time. with the Amaz Aubrey case.

14:53 Oh, no, thank you. Yes, that was my when I saw how that was running concurrently and the timing of the verdicts coming out. I immediately said, oh, this just confirms my whole psychological operation thinking. And it could have been some esoteric kind of things going on, too, because it was some kind of funny blood moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you're right. Which is known, it's also known as a sacrificial moon. So I thought it was looking bad for Kyle. I was like, man, you're about to feel the bottom. So, yeah, so that's Nate DeLawyer. He says that Jacob Blake, and just to let people know, Jacob Blake was the man that was shot seven times.

15:37 That was the genesis of this whole situation. So now we had to go a timeline within a timeline. Let me just say one thing about Jacob Blake. Sure. Because there was a knife in close proximity, which he admitted to. I mean, I've seen him admitting to it on TV. So the only thing I just want to add to that, knowing a lot of law enforcement, if there's a person who is intent on stabbing you, blading you, I learned the lingo within 21 feet, they absolutely have a chance of killing you, even if you have a gun.

16:18 Okay. And that's, we saw this similar case with the young lady that was shot in Ohio, where she wasn't a threat to the cop, but she was a threat to another person. And they decided to use lethal force. But we have to go back because the Jacob Blake situation was very clear-cut. We had a video that saw the whole situation, but they had to drag it out to make it seem like it's something that it wasn't. So now we're going to go and listen to what actually took place in that situation before we get into the Rittenhouse situation. Number five. Because I felt like I was dying. I was counting down the breaths. I was awoke the whole time.

17:02 It was a moment Jacob Blake thought he was about to die. I was counting down my breaths and my blinks because I was just staring right at the sky, watching the clouds. I was like, God, I'm coming. I guess this is it for me. But it wasn't. The 29-year-old speaking out for the first time almost five months after being shot seven times by police. You didn't resist. I resisted to getting beat on. What I mean by that is not falling, not letting them put their head on my neck. That's all I was thinking. Honestly, Blake is now partially paralyzed from the waist down.

17:46 A moment captured by bystanders, eventually going viral. Yeah. So that's how they played it up. And I don't know how Strahand said that. He said, like, you didn't resist. Was that a command or was that a question? It was unclear. It was unclear. Yeah. It kind of like they edited in afterwards. It was very, very unnatural. Yeah. Or did some kind of editing there because it's like he made a statement. But in these following clips, you're going to see he understands what really went on. And to be honest with you, when everybody saw the tape, let me say it like this: nobody deserves to be shot seven times.

18:31 Let me just say, if you're moving away from the suspect, I believe. But as a cop justified to do it, yes. Is that the law? Yes. And I'll say this: in a situation, if we're talking about the number of shots, that's totally different from whether a shot should have been fired. If you're moving away from anybody, let's just like, if I'm in a tussle with somebody and they're going into their car, best believe. I'm going to assume the worst. I'm not going to sit here and wait for you to pull out whatever. Yeah, to pull out whatever and then, you know, and lose my upper hand.

19:10 So in that case, I completely understand. I think the frustration is the number of shots and that number of shots. The reason why I'm bringing this up is that was the real headline. Man shot seven times. And nothing after that even mattered why he was shot or anything else. If he'd have been shot one, two, three times, then it would be a lot of fun. Well, and I think that's because it's a great headline and it becomes a story because everybody can agree on that. Now, that's not fair because neither you or I were a cop in that position. You have no idea. I mean, we didn't really. really don't know. But everybody can agree. Damn, that seems like a lot. This is the number. And what we're talking about is for headline value.

19:55 Yeah. Because we both agree, a lot of people only read headlines. And I'm just going to go to the YouTube video title here. Jacob Blake tells his story after being shot seven times by police. The encounter marking the climax of a summer rock by reckoning. Protesters adding the name Jacob Blake to their rallying cry, joining those of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. With calls for action echoing across America, from celebrities to athletes. We are scared as black people. Activists demanding justice for the ever-growing list of black victims shot by police.

20:40 I didn't want to be the next George Floyd. I didn't want to die. Oh, man. Okay, so I love that we're not doing video because I haven't seen any of this and I'm just listening to it. It's masterful. We, as black people, are afraid. I mean, this is some good mind control. And that frustrated me every time I hear LeBron James say that because to be a 600, excuse me, a 6'7, 6'9 black man, almost 300 pounds, 250, 260, with almost a billion dollars, bro. You shouldn't be scared. I mean, because what that was just doing is playing into this fearful black man role.

21:22 Like, oh, we're just walking around the street scared every day. No, what we are aware. And that's why I was so frustrated with Jacob Blake is the fact that you're aware what's going to happen if you don't listen to commands, wrestle with cops, and then move into your car. Everybody knows that's a bad idea. A prescription for a hot dose of lead. I mean, it just baked into our understanding. That's that talk that we used to talk about a lot, but we haven't talked about so much. That kind of thing. Like, if hey, if you get you, you're saying just comply, get your one phone call, call, bell out, and you go home.

22:00 You know, to wrestle with somebody, you know what the outcome can be. It's not always that case, but it can be, and you can take it there. So that's why they didn't get very much traction with this story when it first was rolled out. Right. But the seven shots helped. The seven shots still, that's just to say it, seven shots. It just rolls off your tongue. And that thing got its came its own life. And a lot of people were doing, you know, it's powerful. And that's the other thing. Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like the very powerful number because it just rounds up to 10.

22:38 It's like, yeah, I almost hit him with 10 shots. But you're processing it. I mean, when you process numbers like that, that's why they use certain numbers in certain ways. Also, you know, you got a people think gun, somebody think revolver, six shots, six shooter, five, seven. Are you going to get lucky today, punk? I mean, there's something about it. Yeah. So, I mean, that's all I'm saying. That's that all plays into it. So now we got Jacob Blake. He's talking about he's being shot. Now we're going to have Strahan push back a little bit and like kind of reiterate to what I was saying about it's kind of understood when you behave in that manner what could happen.

23:19 Records show that Officer Shetsky recalls telling Blake, quote, let's talk about this. As Blake places one of the kids in the car, he then tells Blake he has a warrant and tries to arrest him. They didn't say why they were there. They didn't say anything to me. Did they tell you that they had a warrant for your arrest? No, I thought that it had been over with. Police deploy a stun gun multiple times. Blake pulls the prongs out of his skin. Officer Shetsky and Blake end up in a physical altercation on the ground. We see you, you walk away from the officers after they try to grab you. At that point, I'm rattled. I realized I had dropped my knife.

24:01 That little pocket knife. So I picked it up after I got off of him because they tased me and I fell on top of him. His was in there, probably face on the window. I'm about to get in here and check on my kids. In the video, you hear them saying, dropped a knife. I think a couple people were saying that, but I didn't hear none of that. Blake turns away from the officers and walks around the front of the vehicle towards the driver's side door. What are you thinking at that point? I had picked my knife up. I'm like, I'm not really worried. I'm walking away from them, so it's not like they're going to shoot me. I shouldn't have picked it up at that time.

24:42 I wasn't thinking clearly. Hey, wait, this is the interviewer's Michael Strahan. Yes. Wow, they give him the weirdest gigs. But they had to find a black man. Well, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, usually they put him in a dress. They make him do the uncomfortable bull crap segment on the morning show. But then this is a big one. And they give it to him. It's like, it's like, geez, be more blatant about it, please, ABC. And that's why I said that they had to find a black man. We see every time that when somebody is interviewed in these kind of situations, they're like, who we got black?

25:21 Or you've seen it with the MS NBC panels. Well, because it's Michael Strahan. Because it's Michael Strahan, that's why you actually think, wow, they really did just go, who we got that's black. Although, correct? Although I kind of dig it. I think it's interesting to hear him do this. Yeah, and the other thing, like I said, on the MSNBC panels, you see this as well. People take a day off so they can have a black anchor on their show that's usually hosted by a white person. It's very obvious. And I love the Amber, what's her name with the big Afro. I mean, it's pouring it on, man. We got Cleopatra Jones on MSNBC. Yeah, and I think she does the MSNBC, the one online as well.

26:05 It's great. I love watching her. I can't get enough of her, but holy crap. Yeah, so as you can hear, Michael Strahan is kind of like, hey, well, you did kind of get tased. Yeah, I can pick up a knife and wrestle with cops. This is what made it so hard for them. And the point I'm making is the fact that this was so hard for them and a non-starter Kyle Rittenhouse was a godsend for them. All the elements were there. Yeah. Because you had it. They tried to wrestle with you. They shot you with a few tasers.

26:45 You still got up. You dropped a weapon. You picked up your knife. Right. And then walked to your car with. And what people got to understand is it's just so, I mean, it's going to be brought up again in the clips. Is his kids were in the car and his the mother of his children had called the cops and say, hey, he's trying to steal the car. So with the kids. They don't know if it's a kid. They don't know if it's a kidnap situation. They don't know what. And I'm not saying I'm not taking up for the police any kind of way, but it's the context. You always have to say, because the reason why I don't take up for police is they're professionals. The same way I look at them like doctors with the COF situation. It's like, if you're a professional, you're expected to have a higher standard than an average citizen.

27:31 Like I said, the same way I look at doctors with the COF. Like, y'all are supposed to have a higher standard than even newscasters or anybody else. So, yeah. So they're processing all this in a matter of seconds. And for the, I'm going to say this: people, everybody needs to stop calling the police for everything. These kind of things used to be saw within the community. And what I mean by, I don't mean the black community, I'm just saying if it was a domestic dispute, the men would come in and say, hey, man, go walk it off. You know, that kind of thing. I totally agree with you, Moe. It is, and it is a male problem.

28:11 We have become a nation of pussies who want to call someone about something else. And what bugged me the most is exactly that. And now in Austin, where, of course, we left, what they're doing is they're instead of going the direction I think you and I would like is say, hey, let's just do this in the community. We got men around here who should just, you know, to settle things. You know, we all have to live together. No, instead, now they're taking that, you know, that policing role because people always call 911 and now they're giving it to social workers, which is probably the worst thing you can do. They're going to get their asses beat. It's so stupid. And we have to, it's always, I'm going to sue you.

28:53 I'm going to do this. We don't discuss things. We don't work things out amongst each other anymore, regardless of race. Well, people think the police are like there to play games with them. Yeah. When you call the police, they're there to take somebody to jail. That's their, I mean, that's their job. You don't call them out there to break up domestic disputes. And what I mean by that, like, oh, you and your brother-in-law had a few too many drinks and you're chest bumping. Right. But it's abuse, and the citizens need to know it. And it's the same with EMT. I have many EMT friends and they get caught and they have to respond. They can't say, no, we're not going to the call. They'll get there and it's a morbidly obese person who's saying, I can't. can't get my cigarettes. Can you get them off of the table?

29:38 Wow. Yes. Yes, this kind of shit. It's unbelievable. So, yeah, that's one thing that we can do to resolve a lot of these incidents is don't I'll say it like this: if he was a real threat, then call the police. And obviously, she thought he was a real threat. But if you just think he's going to go ride around the block and come back once he blows some steam off, don't call the police. And for him to say, he forgot he thought the warrant situation was over. No, everybody knows from a speeding ticket to parking tickets to whatever else, you know, when you got something lingering over your head dealing with the court.

30:17 I find that hard to believe, just from my viewpoint. So, with that said, we can go and get into part four of this clip. You said that we can just look at the video. The video tells everything. We're going to be a lot of people who look at the video and say, in the video, you're walking away from the police. So, why didn't he just stop and do what the police are asking him to do? I couldn't hear that. All I heard was screaming, screaming. My ears was ringing, so it was all muffled. If the police were fighting me, if they were tasing me, I would stop walking away from them and they would have my attention. And when they taught me, I had my hands up. So,

31:00 Officer Shetzky's attorney insists: quote, the officers were compelled to use force once Blake began actively resisting their verbal commands, adding that the claim the officers didn't say anything to him during the altercation is, quote, preposterous. As Blake opens the door of the car, Officer Shetzky claims Blake drove the knife toward his body. Blake denies this. Officer Shetzky then grabs Blake by the back of his shirt and shoots him seven times. Yeah, I gotta say, I think Strahan has a career doing crime. Yeah, I mean, he did a great interview, and the way you could hear him say a lot of people would say, you kind of brought that on yourself.

31:43 That's kind of what he was saying. Well, but he's approaching it from I like that. He is speaking like a black man to a black man. I can hear that. He's like, come on, man. Am I wrong? Somebody like, well, it's justifiable. Or, I mean, your actions were justifiable. No, you wrestling tased. But Strahan said, Strahan said that. Strahan's like, you know, that get my attention. I mean, I can hear you say that, Moe. I think it's a very funny way of saying it. Like, you dumbass. I think Strahan's saying that, don't you? Yeah, I agree. I totally agree with him, but he couldn't just come out and say it. He says a lot of people would say. Of course not. ABC. He can't do that. He can't talk like that on ABC. Of course not.

32:28 But why not? And that lets you know this situation is bigger than they had to keep the ball rolling. And this was months later. Now, he had got out the hospital and everything else. They still were giving it a little fuel and fuel to the flame. When did the protest start? Oh, this the protest for his after his shooting, it started immediately. Immediately. Okay. Yeah. Cause all right. But the problem was when people actually saw the video, it was hard to get a real

33:07 seven shots. Everything else was no good. Right. But that's when I think they had to engage the third wave that we talked about and bring in the criminals. Yep. It's like from across state lines, probably. Yeah. So they couldn't get like legit protesters out there, like with George Floyd and the other cases that we've seen. So I think that's why you saw the assembly of characters that was involved in Rittenhouse case. Yeah. These were higher hands. They drummed up a bunch of criminals. You're right, man. Absolutely. Yes. Go ahead. No, no, I'm on board. That's the point I'm trying to make: it was just a bad situation that they couldn't spend anyway.

33:52 So now they use all that energy into the Rittenhouse case. The political energy. I'll say the political energy. So now this is Kamala Harris. Oh, yeah. And this is her. Unbelievable. This is unbelievable. And her speaking on the meeting with Jacob Blake's family. I sat down with Democratic vice presidential nominee Senator Kamala Harris Thursday afternoon for a wide-ranging conversation on the issues facing Americans in this unique presidential election year. And we started, we started with the Jacob Blake case. case, the man shot seven times by police in Wisconsin.

34:35 Because I understand you've talked to Jacob Blake's family. Yes. Yeah. What was that conversation like? First of all, his family, they're really wonderful and extraordinary people. They have suffered so much. You know, he has six children. Three, his sons, who the eldest was, it was his eighth birthday that day. Right? And so it was a family conversation, and it was his sister, his father, his mother. And they're just full of grace and pain, right? That's coexisting for them. And I talked again with his mother.

35:19 But Joe was so good with them. You know, Joe Biden, he has had conversations with Jacob's family, with Mr. Blake's family. He has had conversations with Mr. Floyd's family, with Ahmad Aubrey's family. And he sees them, you know, and they need to be seen and they need to be heard. And I think that's the important thing about these conversations. He sees them. Yes. Well, you have to, we got to bring Joe back from the if you ain't, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. You know, we got to sauce him a little bit. But you know how condescending is it for somebody to say, I see you. I see you, Adam. Oh, yeah. I see. What is that? Like, I don't want to be seen.

36:05 That's actually kind of like a cringy white woman thing to say. And that's that. That's that whole thing. We see you. We acknowledge you. We don't want to be acknowledged and seen. That whole thing, and then, oh, Joe, he's so wonderful. And then the family, oh, they're extraordinary and graceful. Like, who wants to be graceful? I'm going to say this. If my son had been shot seven times wrongly and something that he didn't know have any part in to bring it upon himself, the last thing I'm going to be is damn graceful. Right. What is that? They're graceful. She had to walk this line of

36:44 don't be too aggressive, but we can't seem too weak either. Here's what. Go ahead. So here's the real question for me. And Tina and I were talking about this maybe for the past two days. Do we think that the reason that Kamala Harris actually believes these men were wronged, all of them, but let's just say to keep it with Blake to keep it easy because she only reads a briefing, sees a headline, and just has a bias and is just rolling with it? Or is she really that calculated? And is this all premeditated?

37:25 She's acting here regardless because that's her job. But do you think that she really knows what's going on? I just question if these, I think these people are like most of America. They just look at a headline and know how they feel about the world and it just fits in this narrative. And that's what everyone's saying anyway. So let's go, Brandon. For her to be a potential Supreme Court justice nominee, I want better. Like I was saying about the cops, I want somebody you, your whole career is in law. You had no problem with locking up women who had children with truancy problems.

38:09 You saw, we covered in the case, we covered the case of the man that she tried to lock up wrongfully. So no, I don't think locked up dope smokers. Right. Dope smokers. I don't think this is, oh, now she's found Jesus. No, I know. I think it's that, hey, I got to make sure Joe looks as good as possible so I can take the spot from him when it's time. So I can never make it to the White House if Joe doesn't make it to the White House. And I think that's her whole thing. You can't sit here and see what I saw, what Strahan saw, and say there's any gray area there. You just can't. You just can't. Especially if your career is in law.

38:54 That's what frustrates me about her. This is not some, this is not Sarah Palin. And there's no not to Sarah Palin. What I'm just saying is this is not some random woman that was selected to be VP. She's supposed to have a long history in law enforcement. And to sit here and say, well, the things that she's going to say in this video is just amazes me. So I guess we can go ahead and get into part two of this clip. As a former prosecutor and someone who worked closely with police for years, based on what you've seen. what you know about the case, is there a scenario in which I want you to notice something. You can start this clip over. When she's annoyed, and I've listened to enough Kamala, I got her tail now.

39:36 When she's annoyed with a question, she hits you with this flat, dull, yeah. That's her tell. Okay, that's her tail. That's when she's annoyed by a question. Good catch, here we go. As a former prosecutor and someone who worked closely with police for years, based on what you've seen, what you know about the case, is there a scenario in which that officer would have been justified, was justified in firing his weapon. Craig, I don't see it, but I don't have all the evidence. From what I saw. I mean, just remind people what the question was, because she does this well.

40:18 I got to give it to her. She'll have you forget what the question was by the time she gets done talking. But the question was: is there any scenario, any, from what we saw where the cop would be justified? I'll just remind people of the question before she answers it. Would have been justified, was justified in firing his weapon. Craig, I don't see it, but I don't have all the evidence. You know, from what I saw, which is what the public is seeing, so I'm not the prosecutor in the case. I don't have all the evidence, but the man was going to his car. He didn't appear to be armed. And if he was not armed, if he was not armed,

41:02 the use of force that was seven bullets coming out of a gun at close range in the back of the man, I don't see how anybody could reason that that was justifiable. You think the officer should be charged? I think that there should be a thorough investigation. And based on what I've seen, it seems that the officer should be charged. Yeah. Okay, Madam Vice President, here's your talking point. We really want to hit the seven shots. That's really what we want. Let's just kind of focus on the seven, seven shots would really be in the back, seven shots.

41:39 That would really be helpful, Madam President, Vice President. And anytime these questions are asked, like Straighthand's asking, like, I forget this gentleman's name over MSNBC, that means you really don't have a leg to stand on. And it's like the public is saying this. So they have to, in good faith, I mean, to put that in the word same sense with the media, but they know they have, I can't go out here and not ask this question. Or it would just be blatant that I'm on the tape. So you saw Straighthand had to ask a tough question. You saw he had to ask a tough question. In any sense, he gave her out to say, in any scenario,

42:18 she could have easily said, well, you know, but you could see, you could hear the calculations going in her head to say, well, you know, I don't have all the evidence and I saw what the people saw. Yeah, but she's not sharp. She's not sharp because you're right. She didn't pick up on the out. Right. He gave her out and he made it clear in any scenario. So, yeah, Kamala, we know her past. We know what she's known for, locking people up. So if this was in her district and she was the dealer. Putting handcuffs on Willie Brown. I don't think that was a punitive. No, there were pink handcuffs, yes.

42:59 So, yeah, so I don't buy it at all, but she had to go out. She had to go out and do what she had to do. And this is just to remind people, this is during the election cycle. So they were saying anything. Anything, anything to make sure they got elected. And the media was even worse than it is now as far as the suppression of information. So for her to have me brought and asked these questions, you know, it was public and the public, these questions were swirling. So let's go ahead and get to the third and final piece of this clip. To those who are seeing right now across this country, and there are a lot of folks who are saying, here's a man who wouldn't follow police commands.

43:40 Law enforcement tried to use a teaser, and then he apparently is reaching into a car where a knife was later found. And because of those reasons, we should reserve judgment and the officer should be afforded due process. What would you say to those people who are saying that? Everyone should be afforded due process. I agree with that completely. That is absolutely one of the important tenets of our system of justice. But here's the thing. In America, we know these cases keep happening. And we have had too many black men in America who have been the subject.

44:19 of this kind of conduct. And many of whom have lost their lives, and we speak their names all the time. Again, George Floyd. I mean, just as the most recent, you know, most public example of this. And it's got to stop. A few hours ago, I heard the vice president say, Vice President Biden, I heard him say that the president was rooting for more violence. He thought President Trump was rooting for more violence. How does more violence help the president politically? I mean, I can't, look, you're going to have to ask Kellyanne Conway or somebody. I don't know. That's not my, that's not my deal.

45:02 So once he doubled down was like, yo, this looks kind of bad. The people are not really with it. And they were. Nobody was really crying over Jacob Blake. Let me just be honest. A lot of people are like, you put that on yourself in the words of Martin Lawrence. You brought that situation on yourself. And if you want to take it one step further, his baby mama really brought it on him. And it's, I find it. By calling the cops. Right. I find it amazing that you have this phenomenon where these people are called the police on other people. And then when something happens, they'll be like, oh, why'd you do that to him? What'd you call me for?

45:45 If it's not that serious, you know. So is there no realization in these communities that this is a dumb idea? What's going on with that? Maybe that's... You want me to be, I mean, I could be completely candid and I'm going to piss probably a lot of people. By the end of the show, I'm probably going to piss a lot of people off. So I might as well start now. A lot of people are okay with the police as long as they're doing their bidding. And see, this is where the family courts and if you want to talk about structural or institutional racism or white supremacy and all these things, this is where it starts. This is how you get the man out of the house. This is no man in the house manifested.

46:27 Ah, yes. Okay. Of course. To say, I'm fed up with you. I'm tired of your crap. 911. Come get him. I'm tired of him. For whatever reason. It doesn't matter what the reason he could have. So where does this empowerment entitlement comes from the influences of the women running BLM? Or is this, how is this? It's the family courts. The family courts have weaponized themselves. Well, weaponized women. Women and children. Women, I want to make sure not all women, but it has given them the ability to say, if you want the power to the state to step in, and this goes back to the, I think, last show, the show before that, when we're talking about the kids and who owns your kids, you know, really the states own your kids.

47:13 When you sign that birth certificate, the states own your kid. And it's like, okay, now state, I need help with, you know, the co-parent between us, me, you, and him, being, you know, the three parties, being the two parents in the state. I need him out of here. And that's basically what she did was engage white supremacy on him. And not saying the cops are white supremacists. What I'm saying is the system, the family court system is set up to say, if you're unhappy with this man, we'll get him out of here. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the reason, the case, the cause, whatever. He got to go. And me and you fall under that as well. I mean, no, I know.

47:55 I saw what happened in my first divorce. I saw what kind of lawyers came to my ex-wife's immediate aid, and I saw what they were trying to do. Now, luckily, our daughter was almost 19 at the time. So, you know, it wasn't, but, oh, man. I mean, it was, and also my ex-wife was making way more money than me. So, you know, you were really bad on. Well, no, I said, I said, like, hey, you know, no, in that case, I said, you really don't want me claiming money, do you? Because I was making less. I mean, you're talking about the divorce sense in the monetary sense. I'm talking about in the physical removement sense.

48:38 Right, no, but I'm saying is that I saw how the justice system is completely geared towards screwing the dad, screwing the husband, screwing the male partner. That's what I mean. Which I won't, we also got to highlight the fact that there are bad actors out there that do, you know, saying, hell, it was several of them in Kenosha that night that do actually see deadbeats. So it's a lot of, it's a lot of men out here that actually abuse women. Sure. We saw several of them in Kenosha that night. That's true. And it's amazing how they always tend to be around when these kind of things go down.

49:15 Bull crap happening. Yep. Yeah. So we're not saying that the police is not necessary and domestic violence is not a serious issue, but I think people take it too far in the sense of if you're just having a couple spat, there's no need to involve the law in it because the law only has one purpose and that's to enact the law. That's it. Whatever the law is, it's okay. They'll quickly tell you, Mr. Curry, Mr. Facts, you got 30 minutes to pack a bag. You got anywhere to go? You want to make a phone call? You got to get up out of here. And that's the system. And that's the other leg of the justice system that really needs to be exposed.

49:55 We saw one leg of it get exposed during this trial. Now that's another leg that we need to expose in the future because that caused a lot of strife and unnecessary involvement of law enforcement in couple situations. But I digress. Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. That was worth the diversion for me. So I think we stopped at 11. Now we got to get to actual Joe Biden speaking to Jacob Blake. Also, I've been waiting to hear more about his visit with the family of Jacob Blake. Attorney Benjamin Crump released a statement minutes ago while the vice president was speaking, said that he and Dr. Biden met with the family, including Jacob Blake's father, Jacob Blake Sr., his sisters and brother.

50:40 Ben Crump listened in by phone as did Jacob Blake's mother and Jacob Blake himself from his hospital bed. This piece of the statement in particular stood out. Quote, I'm quoting from the statement from Ben Crump: quote: Jacob Jr., the young man who was shot, Jacob Jr., shared about the pain he is enduring, and the vice president commiserated. The vice president told the family that he believes the best of America is in all of us and that we need to value all our differences as we come together in America's great melting pot. Going on to read, quote, It was very obvious that Vice President Biden cared as he extended to Jacob Jr. a sense of humanity, treating him as a person worthy of consideration and prayer, unquote.

51:23 That is part of a statement from attorney Benjamin Crump about the meeting that Vice President Joe Biden had with the Blake family. So apparently, Kristen, Joe Biden and Jacob Blake spoke, communicated somewhat today, which I think is the first we've heard of a major political figure actually talking to the family and to young Mr. Blake. That is a great piece of propaganda. Have the guy's lawyer create the statement of what happened with color and just read that verbatim on the air and then say, wow, it looks like they had a good little chat, didn't they?

52:03 But I will say this: that Crump and R. Biden needs to update their language because Melting Pot is now raised. I cannot say Melting Jr., this is true. So you're very tone deaf in doing that. But this goes with the thing with Cardi B and talking to the presidential candidates. This goes with all these other people that talk to presidential candidates. Now you got people that are shot talking to presidential candidates. This was the cringe. This was the pander. The pander machine was on 11 right now as far as, oh, let's go talk to Jacob Blake. And then the egg was on their face.

52:44 But people with short memories and under mass formation, they don't see this. They don't hear this. They only hear seven shots. And that's why you saying that Syop is spot on because none of this translates. All of this was. I mean, I'm not going to get these clips from anywhere exclusive or anything. This was for public knowledge. And the reporters knew, were like, well, that sounds kind of crazy if you ask me, but seven shots. Seven shots. Seven shots. Seven shots. That's all that mattered. So before we get into this, I want to identify that who this reporter is talking to. And I had it written down here, but it's Kristen.

53:28 She's the new Department of Justice Civil Rights. Oh, this is the, yeah, this is the American Indian woman. No, no, she's, she's black. Well, no, well, she's black in color, but I think she's from the Caribbean. She's not, she's not Ados. No, she's not Ados. No, I thought she was American Indian. No, you're thinking about Gupta. No, no, no, no, no, not. No, not Indian, American Indian, like Indian, like Native American. Oh, she was she might. I mean, if you talk about California, what's her name again? What's her name again? Kristen. What is her? I had it here.

54:08 This look up the DOJ's. civil rights kristen clark kristen clark that's it and i think she's from jamaica oh no no i'm sorry i'm thinking of someone else yes i have seen her and she is indeed uh jamaican yes and this is her she's american but her parents are from jamaica they immigrated correct correct well she's similar to kamala harris in that way where she's jamaican by Yes, and I remember seeing her and she was talking some smack. I'm like, what's this we business? Oh, well, you want to go there? Let's go ahead and go ahead and get into the clip then because she throws a doozy out here. Okay.

54:47 Which is one small step forward in terms of healing, just recognizing and acknowledging this brutal tragedy. We've got to remember that Mr. Blake is a human being. He is a father. He is a son. He is the descendant of a family that has literally committed itself to our nation's civil rights movement. His own grandfather. Dog whistle. No. Y'all want to talk dog whistles? No. He's a descendant. And you got to remember, this was during the election time when she was actually before she got her appointment. So she's out there caping hard for the administration too because she knew she had something coming down the population.

55:31 Yeah, I got a gig coming up. So did we just rewind that a little bit? Yeah, he's the descendant. Interesting word she chose there. He is a father. He is a son. He is the descendant of a family that has literally committed itself to our nation's civil rights movement. His own grandfather marched in the days after the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. And so Mr. Biden's actions today most certainly humanize Mr. Blake. But what we need now is justice. What we need now are officers who will be held accountable for the harm done to Mr.

56:10 Blake. We need officers to be held accountable for the countless shootings of unarmed African Americans. This is a crisis that is leaping at the soul of our nation. And we need national leaders who will not turn a blind eye to this and who will acknowledge the bitter, harmful racism underlying the police violence that we are seeing tearing communities apart in our country right now. Wow. Also worth noting that Joe Biden, his remarks, did indeed say that institutional racism is a thing, and he directly connected it to the incident in Kenosha that has left Jacob Blake Jr. in a hospital bed. Kristen Clark of the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, thanks very much.

56:54 Oh my goodness. So that's her before she got her gig. So you know she was out there caping hard and throwing around the descendant word. How convenient. That's kind of thing. They know what time it is. They know what's going on. They know what the talking points are. And it's amazing that she used that word because I thought Ados were black box, Russian box. Excuse me. So to throw that word around, you might get yourself on the list there, Kristen. But I'll say this. I'm sorry. I was going to say, I get into trouble with people because I'll say, I do. And usually it winds up with me having to explain Ados.

57:36 And I'll say, this woman has no business talking like this. She really doesn't. At least not with the attitude that she's like, she's a part of this and that she, you know, she understands these. By the way, I am actually a descendant of people who were active in civil rights. My great uncle painted John Brown in the murals on the wall in Kansas at the Capitol. It's like, that's how stupid it is what this woman is saying. And they had nothing to say. So Kamala did the same thing. They just had to fill up space with just rambling. But when I say those things, then I get into trouble.

58:18 People say, but that's really racist that you say that. Because she's because of her color. Because of her color of her skin. But you can't identify separate groups within, you know, that's kind of like lumping in with Chinese and say, oh, he's Asian. Asians with whites. Well, no, I just say within intra. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like Japanese, Korean, Chinese, all the same. Yeah, that's basically what they're saying. So that's highly offensive. Yes, that's my point. That's my point. I totally get your point. And I'm just going to highlight it even further.

59:01 That's like saying, we want somebody to speak on Indian relations. relations. He's Chinese. Bring him on. He's Chinese. We have somebody here representing the Asian Americans. And it's like, what? I mean, because you could be from Kazakhstan or wherever and be considered Asian. Yes, you might even be considered Chinese just looking at you if you're from Kazakhstan. Right. So that's the, that's where it's offensive. And the other part is, I'm just going to say this and people can get frustrated with me. It's amazing how these superwoke women, Kamala Harris and Kristen, I forget her name, last name, and yeah, but they're married to these oppressive white men that they speak so bad of.

59:45 I don't understand. They thought the only good ones. How does that work? Somebody breaks right down to them. They took them. There's none left. Oh, and Don Lemon, too. Excuse me. Let me not forget Don Lemon as well. But it's amazing how they get out here and vilify the same people and then go and lay down beside the person or a group of people that you're vilifying. I don't understand that mindset. You're not in the mass formation, so you see right through it. This is how the emperor has no clothes. Thank goodness. I'm not part of that. So we're going to wrap this. We're going to have an early donation segment. So this is going to be a last clip of this block just because how I wanted to break the show up.

1:00:26 But this is the final outcome of whether Jacob Blake was the officers were charged or not in the Jacob Blake situation. We're going to turn now to the fallout after the Kenosha district attorney announced he will not charge any of the police officers involved in the shooting of Jacob Blake this summer. Alex Perez is in Kenosha with the latest force. Good morning, Alex. Hey, good morning, Robin. Things are peaceful here overnight, but the city of Kenosha remains under an emergency declaration. Some 500 National Guardsmen have been activated. Jacob Blake's family calls a prosecutor's decision unjust. No justice! Overnight, demonstrators taking to the streets in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

1:01:11 After prosecutors announced they are declining to charge the officer who shot Jacob Blake seven times last August, saying that after pouring through some 40 hours of video and 1,500 pages of reports, the evidence did not support charges. No Kenosha law enforcement officer in this case will be charged with any criminal offense. This disturbing video of the incidents back on August 23rd sparked days of protest. Police were responding to a domestic dispute call from Blake's girlfriend. Blake, who was paralyzed in the shooting this morning, is still recovering. His family frustrated with the prosecutor's decision to not press charges. We, the Blake family, are asking this city, this county, this state, and this nation

1:01:57 to rise up in a nonviolent civic uprising to let our friends and family know there's a new sheriff in town. And the teenager who is accused of killing two people during protests here last summer, Kyle Rittenhouse, was arraigned in court. He pleaded not guilty to all charges. Once again, the timing. We couldn't get the cops. Couldn't get the cops. Well, we got Kyle, so don't worry about it. And who's this new sheriff in town thing? Yeah, that was interesting. It was also like, don't be violent about the new sheriff in town. Right.

1:02:41 Once again, because they knew, isn't this the same Justice Department, whatever you call it locally, the district attorney or whatever, the same ones decided not to charge the cops, charge Kyle. So they're like, wait, wait, we might get Kyle, so don't go too crazy just yet, is how I interpret that. I think if you look at the timeline, that's completely acceptable. Yeah. So I just, we saw the Jacob Blake situation. We knew what time it was. We were like, nah, he had seven shots. That's a bit much.

1:03:18 But you also were out of line in the way you were carrying on. And then, as you heard, like it was part of the domestic dispute and really none of it was good. None of it was good for the optics. We had some headlines we had to move on. Yeah, we had other things to get to. So that's why they kind of pivoted over to the George Floyd thing. And like, we'll catch this on the backside in November. So that was that was the plan. Well, well executed so far. Yeah. I mean, they had a bigger plan. You could tell the way they handled this. But I just wanted to point out and bring back to people's memory how disingenuous the.

1:04:00 politicians and the media was. But I had to give media credit. At least they tried with this one. They at least try to say, well, I don't know about that one. But I like the levers they pull. And I just have to say, like you, I think we see it the same way. The levers are getting pulled, man. It's not that hard. It's only six CEOs you got to talk to. It's very simple. The levers get pulled and one after another. Let's do this then. That's not working. To chunk. And since you, before we get into the donation segment, since you throw this psyop out there, I just have this. I have no proof. This is completely speculation, completely speculation. But could this be a whole distraction from the whole COOF situation unraveling?

1:04:49 Well, MX stands for Microsoft. I'm just saying. MS NBC. And they've been the ones on the tip of the spear pushing this confusion. At the same time, nobody really wants to talk about what's going on on the Koof side of things. So I just wanted to throw that out there as a, could this be a distractionary measure? And race is the perfect distraction to sit with. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's an easy fallback. It's a good one. I think this is more planned than we realized. This was not necessarily just, it works out perfectly, but I don't know if it's necessarily a distraction.

1:05:31 This was well executed. This timeline, and that's the piece that was kind of missing for me because I was paying attention to other things. This timeline shows me how well done this is. Yeah, and in that timeline, if you have some other nuggets you wanted to hide in the news, now is the time to drop it because it'll be in the third, fourth block segment. Oh, exactly. Yeah, this is like breakout cases or more, but don't pay attention to that. Look at the do you watch Succession? I do not. I haven't started watching that yet. Okay. Anyway, this is like the Christmas tree. It's like everyone can hang their shit on it, except, you know, not for display, but just like, oh, just stick it here in the branches.

1:06:12 So as this thing goes off to the burning pile, then no one sees what's going on. Okay, I see. I see what you're saying. I mean, that's kind of what the point I'm trying to make as well. It's a good masking mechanism to say, well, we told you. We told you, but you were paying attention to something else. Here's the story. Here's the story. I told you I published it. Right. Right. We talked about it. You know, you just didn't pay attention to it. It's your fault. I guess it's time to thank the people that make this possible. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man.

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1:27:45 the first person that he shot down to the final person that he shot. So it's a whole rendition of what happened. And once again, this is ABC News. So you can stop it whenever you like. If there's some points that you want to address. So you can go ahead and bring in the clip now. At 10.04 p.m., a video shows a group of armed men protecting a car shop at the corner of 59th and Sheridan. One young man. Well, just stop it right here. And I should have done an over-underout. How many seconds was it? Let me see. It was, I was actually rubbing my eye, too. It would have been, it was eight seconds in, so it didn't take me long.

1:28:26 Yes, I do like the dramatization of it. It's already the soundscape, the mix is beautiful. I like the voice they chose for this. innocent girl. The whole thing is working for me. I think this is outstanding on the propaganda scale. In a green t-shirt and backwards baseball cap says, A little over an hour later, protesters gathered at an ultimate gas station at 60th and Sheridan. We see a man who appears to be Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the shooting victims, clash with armed men, also gathered. Back at the car shop at 59th. Wow, they really did the sound editing too. Uh-huh. Wow, this is good. Did they switch to the video when you heard that as well?

1:29:11 They pop in, you see angry men. Oh, this is good. Yes. This is good. With armed men also gathered. Back at the car shop at 59th and Sheridan, the same young man who appears to be Kyle Rittenhouse can be seen asking law enforcement for water. And the officers can be heard speaking to the group. We appreciate you guys. We really do. At 11:48. It's so funny. I love not seeing the video because what I expected, you know, officers can be seen talking to the group. What I expect is a bunch of cops saying, hey, guys, you know, let's keep it calm tonight. No, it says like,

1:29:53 that's not officers talking to them. That's not the same thing. That is not community policing. Sorry. And while you got to stop, I just want to make the point how they said, like, the cops gave Kyle water. Like, you know, he's in a timeout break. It's like, here you go. Here's Charlie. Here's Kit Kyle. You know what I'm saying? You go back to the menu. You're saying, yeah, hydrated for what you for your killing, for your killing spree. That's right. And the officers can be heard speaking to the group. We appreciate you guys. We really do. At 11:48 p.m., gunshots ring out. Those are gunshots down there. First, four bursts, then three. A man who police identified as Rittenhouse runs across the parking lot of an auto service shop, followed by a shirtless man who was later identified as Joseph Rosenbaum.

1:30:39 Moments later, shots ring out. And the shirtless man falls to the ground. A figure who appears to be Rittenhouse continues running. Seconds later, he comes back into view, and bystanders arrive to help the victim. Rittenhouse can be seen standing by the body, making a phone call. As more people arrive, he runs away out of frame, and someone seems to be heard saying, I shot somebody. At 11:49, multiple videos show Rittenhouse running down the street as a pursuer tries to hit him. Rittenhouse is being chased by several people when he appears to stumble and fall to the ground.

1:31:24 While on the ground, police say he fires at least four shots striking two people. Anthony Huber is shot and lies motionless in the street. Gage Grosspreutz is shot in the arm and appears to be holding a straight- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, I mean, we weren't going to go through the details of this, but they just had a lot of detail and then all of a sudden they skip over guy kicking him in the face, skateboard, gun, pointing. No skateboard, no. No chase. Kyle just took off running. They just, it's like they compress that into five seconds.

1:32:04 Right. So that's why I wanted to play this, just so we could get the context of how the media sold this situation. Like I said, they just glossed over everything. No, the whole key points. The whole key points of the case. Exactly. So we could continue on. Wow. At 11:49, multiple videos show Rittenhouse running down the street as a pursuer tries to hit him. Rittenhouse is being chased by several people when he appears to stumble and fall to the ground. While on the ground, police say he fires at least four shots striking two people.

1:32:43 Anthony Huber is shot and lies motionless in the street. Gage Grosspreutz is shot in the arm and appears to be holding a handgun according to the criminal complaint. Rittenhouse gets up and runs down the street as police arrive at the scene. People in the crowd can be heard yelling. Rittenhouse raises his hands while his rifle hangs around his torso and a number of police vehicles drive past him. He walks towards a squad car which is parked near the first United Methodist Church. This is the last time we see him on video ABC News obtained. Rittenhouse was not arrested that night in Kenosha.

1:33:27 He got away. Gosh. That's very. You know, there's something unique about this podcast, which is 100% attributable to you, is an analysis exactly of what we just did. We can only do that because we let this sit. We let it marinate. We collect our own information over time. It just takes time. And every other analysis that is done right after something has happened is shit, you know, and only

1:34:04 because we have waited. We wait for these things before we do a show is it really so clear how bad the propaganda is and just complete fake fake news. And then let me see if I can. We should just have this during a whole show. We'll have this scary. Yeah. I'm working on the theremin live. Okay. That's exactly the point, though, that we have to wait. It's so, you know, if we were chasing numbers and chasing views and that kind of thing. Oh, the breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. And that's why I got so frustrated with everybody's analysis.

1:34:46 Like, oh, they just got, oh, I'm a lawyer now. And I'm just going to, oh, did you see that? And look at this. And this using all no. Let's see what we're fed. No, no. And then we'll process what we're being fed and see if it makes sense or not. That's where everyone comes from. Yes. So you want to give me what you heard? I mean, let's stop. Let's stop right there. I'm going to tell you what some people thought. And then we'll go to the next one. Okay. Well, do you want to? I don't know what because we're probably going to say that. I'm not going to, I'm not going to go point by point. No, just like what the narrative was.

1:35:30 Oh, I know exactly what the narrative was. Let me go ahead. Just humor me. And then I'll tell you if this guy just started shooting at black people. He just shooting in the wild and killed three people, killed two people and blew another guy's arm up. And he was just a troublemaker. The narrative, you're close, but just a few points you missed. The narrative was Kyle says, I'm sick and tired of these black, loud matter people. Oh, yes. Okay. I'm going to do something about it. I'm going to throw my AR in the back of my car and get my mom to drive me across state lines so I can shoot some black people.

1:36:13 That's the narrative. And the way they sold it was, a lot of people I talked to. No, no, you forgot. It's shoot me some black people. Yeah, shoot me some black people. There you go. Now you've got the complete narrative. So, and then on top of that, it's that he actually shot three protesters at a Black Lives Matter. I thought you were asking me what I heard in the clip. Yes, this narrative, I'm, of course, well aware. No, so I'm just telling you, that's the if you didn't weren't tapped into this case and purposely, rightfully so, they just laugh it vague. Man shoots, kid shoots, crosses state lines.

1:36:57 Yeah, cross state lines with an AR-15. That's scary. 17. Yeah. 17, killer kid. And he goes and shoots three people at Black Lives Matter rally. Just by the laws and odds of it, if you hear that headline, man shoots people at Black Lives Matter rally. It's at least going to be one dead black person in there, right? Hell yeah. Averages of it. Or at least someone who identifies as black. You would think so. Is this kind of like, what was the kid's name that sparked the 94 crime bill? Little. That's his. Yes. You caught me on the spot, but I know. Little, little.

1:37:39 We're bad. People are yelling at their podcast app right now. I know. Little yummy. Little yummy. There it is. Yeah, this is kind of. Cow Rittenhouse is the little white little yummy. That's right. It's the new white. He's the white little yummy. Yeah. That's exactly. Oh, my God. We now have 17-year-old Trump supporters. They don't, like, heartless. And they wanted to conflate him with Dylan Roof. Yeah. Yes. Yes. There was that. Of course. Dylan Roof did go target black people. I mean, like that, that is a factual statement that he went to a black church to target people. So they wanted that energy to roll into Cal.

1:38:24 And now. that's that's the and George Zimmerman. So he's like an amalgamation of George Zimmerman and Dylan Ruth. That's the way they wanted to paint Kyle. So, yeah, so that's that's but to come to find out, none of the people, and I've talked to people that said, you know, none of them were black, right? And they're like, word, like, for real? Black, black people? Yes. Yeah. Well, you know, in the Dutch, Dutch newspapers, Kyle Rittenhouse, who shot three black protesters. And it's in the newspaper. Black Lives Matter, the Lives Matter just drop out and now black protesters.

1:39:09 But it's easy to do. It's easy to do mentally. Oh, no. It's not, it's not a, it's not a, it just, but I believe that this did open up a small crack, a little wedge, and a number of people. I even saw, what's her name from Young Turks? Oh, and Anna Kasperi. Anna. She, Tina showed this to me. She, she did a whole thing. She said, you know, I was really wrong. And when I saw this live trial, I thought that these were black people that he shot. She said, I was really wrong. I have to reevaluate my sources. That was big of her, man. What we had to do is juxtapose what we just heard in the Jacob Blake situation, where they went over

1:39:53 every detail with fine teeth to look for a reason for the cop not to be justified, and then the vagueness of the Cal situation. Yeah. And it's sick. It's sick. Well, we have to ask the question: why do you want to manipulate me? People need to start asking that question. What do they get out of manipulating me? And they wanted outrage, but I don't know. So let's get into who the victims were. Three shootings, two of them dead. These are the men shot by Kyle Rittenhouse the night of August 25th, 2020 in Kenosha.

1:40:34 17 at the time, Rittenhouse claims he shot the protesters in self-defense. A jury will have to listen to testimony and watch reels of video evidence before deciding. 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum, who prosecutors say was unarmed, was the first man shot by Rittenhouse. Seen here in video edited and released by Rittenhouse's defense team. Rosenbaum from Texas was living in Kenosha. Friends called him Jojo. He had a daughter and fiancé. As Rittenhouse took off down Sheridan Road, Rittenhouse falls to the ground, shoots, and misses one man. Then Anthony Huber uses his skateboard and tries to take Rittenhouse's gun. He ran up on somebody with a soul racer. Well, that was blatant.

1:41:18 How do you try to take a gun with a skateboard? I mean, he comes rolling in on the skateboard. Well, you know what happened? This was interesting because in the trial itself, the way the prosecution tried to sell this was by saying they thought he was an active shooter. And everybody was doing anything they could to bring down the active shooter, which it was an interesting take, but that's not how active shooters work. Active shooters shoot. They don't like aim and not aim. They shoot indiscriminately and they'll empty a magazine and put it in another one and that kind of stuff.

1:42:01 But that was clearly, they were trying to manipulate what happened there. And the skateboarder. And the skateboard, I should say, I've seen enough videos. Look, when I was a kid, I was a fervent skateboarder. I can still wake surf and I still got my balance. I can still do some things. My insurance company won't let me do it anymore. But we never use the skateboard as a weapon and it's a weapon. I see people beating people with skateboards all day long. There's a famous movie or pop culture cult classic, what they call them, called Kids.

1:42:41 And one of the most famous scenes from it is a man getting beat almost to death with a skateboard. So a skateboarder can definitely be a weapon. Oh, yeah. But it's just the way they said that. Like he tried to disarm him with the skateboard. Like you could take that. It's like he came skating in and did like a 360 and a kick push kind of thing. Yeah. It's like, what? What do you mean he tried to know? He tried to whack him over the head. And maybe that dude thought he was an active shooter, but he made the wrong call. I mean, you don't run towards, you don't, yeah, you don't run toward an active shooter. I mean, you can, if I have a gun, maybe, but you, as they always say, he brought a skateboard to a gunfight, and it's that's a that's a bad idea.

1:43:25 Now, we've talked about the you know, uh, cow, but let's talk about the men that were out there that got shot. They don't want to talk about their arrest records. We can get into if you want to a little bit, but this is that third wave I was telling everybody about when we talked about the George Floyd. Yeah, I think we should get, I think you do need to get into this, and it's important that we get into their backgrounds because it is the third wave. So, let's do a little recap. Okay, so the first wave is the activists, they come out there. Okay, so you have an event happen, a shooting like Jacob Blake or whatever. The first wave or your activist, and they come out there and they get people all charged up with the chants and the, you know,

1:44:10 no justice, no peace, that kind of thing. Then, nightfall comes, second wave comes in. Those are your agent provocateurs. Those are the ones that actually break the glass. They were the umbrellas and the glass-breaking devices, right? Because once you break that glass, as we talk about, you know, saying a lot on this show, is once the glass breaks, it's kind of metaphorical or representative of civility breaking. And once that glass breaks and nightfall comes, here comes the third wave, which I said were criminals. Now, it just so happens, Rosenbaum, or whatever his name is, I mispronounced that, but the first Jojo. Jojo, yeah, and ain't that nice. They just call him just Jojo. Oh, poor Jojo.

1:44:56 It's like, what? So, Jojo, he's out front with the bag with his personal effects. Is it a clear sign that you've just been released on some kind of facility or jail or whatnot? And he's out there screaming, shoot me N-word, shoot me N-word. I don't know. I don't, you know, when we start patting out passes, like, and this is the dis, I know I'm jumping all over the place, but this is the disingenuous part I have with people that wanted to get involved in this case. When did we start passing out the N-word as an apartment? Just to anybody, yeah. And I, and I saw black people standing around looking at him like, this dude got to be crazy.

1:45:41 Like, you're at a Black Lives rally. Um, shouting, shoot me N-word, right? That's the thing to do. Uh, uh, yeah. Now, um, then you have the other guys that also have criminal records, and it's just what it seems to me is this that bell thing, no bell bailing people out. No cash. They had to keep, yeah, no, well, they had to keep the ranks full. So they're like, we need more bodies. Like, because nobody was interested in protesting this case. Now, so did they just let Jojo out for this, you think? Jojo had a plastic bag with his personal effects in it.

1:46:22 You can look it up. This is a fact. He had just been recently released. I don't know if it was from a medical institute or a jail, but he had just recently, that day, been released. But hadn't he sodomized young boys? Wasn't that the guy? Oh, and that's what a lot of people, that's where I'm at with it. Like, oh, he shot a pedophile. I mean, like, I know that's bad to say, but look, close the door. We got to talk. Hold on a second. This is important. We have to do that. Hold on a second. Okay. I just slammed it.

1:47:00 There you go. Yeah, we have to talk. When did black folks start getting so involved in white on white crime? That's all I'm asking. It just amazes me how the people are just so all broken up over Jojo. You know what I'm saying? The pedophile, not the other Joe, not Brandon, but the Jojo. Okay, never mind. Bad joke. Yeah, exactly. Right. It was inferred, but you get what I'm saying. Yes, I do. But they're just so heartbroken over one white guy shooting three other white guys. If you saw this in any like a workplace shooting or anything else, people were like, you know, this, that's how it goes.

1:47:45 But now it's, they scared you to the point, like, oh, he was coming to kill black people, but, you know, he didn't have a chance to. That doesn't make any sense. And the other thing that troubles me is when you have that many shots fired and you're hitting all white people, maybe that's not a Black Lives Matter rally. Maybe we need to rename it. I'm just saying. This is just my pure uncut take on this thing. And that's why I didn't get really involved. in it. Cause when I saw, I was like, hmm, well, it is what it is. Well, I knew that the takeaway far beyond anything is people

1:48:26 have an opinion based they're underinformed and oversocialized. This is what I've always said. They have an opinion based on a headline, and they feel the necessity to let everyone know that they have this opinion or that they share the same opinion. It's just based on nothing. And hopefully enough, people feel a bit ashamed about what they might have said or posted. And I also liken this to just the fact that, and we can open the door after this, is the fact that I think people just pick size based on race and was like, okay, that white guy's bad. And I'm going to say this: Kyle does have a very punchable face. I mean, I'm just saying this as a

1:49:08 observation. I mean, he, I mean, we said that in high school, like, certain guys, you just look at him like, ah, you were saying this is something about that guy. Not to say he should be harmed, but I'm just saying that he just, he has the wrong optics or the right optics. You know, he just had that look about him. Yeah, that's interesting because I look at him. I can, I totally understand what you're saying, and I can see that. And sometimes when he grimaces, especially if it's a picture and not video, yeah, I mean, you put the right caption under it, and you totally see that. But I also see he's just a baby. I also see that. He's just the baby boy. So I don't punch baby boys, Mo. Yeah. But I said, your point is well made.

1:49:52 He has that face. Like, it's just that people just don't like him. I mean, that's my point. Like, certain people you see that you just don't like. And he has that look. Or I'm going to say this. The media portrayed him in that way. Like you said, that they always caught him like his lips puckered. Yes. That's just a bit of a shit. Pictures of his face. So, yes, the pictures want to say. But yeah, I mean, so we can open the door now, but I just want to say that. There we go. Better. It was a lot of fake outrage and a lot of Karens. It was a lot of black Karens out there. I'm just going to keep it 100. Oh, it's like, oh, you know, oh, Kyle Rittenhouse. Oh, he got off. No, this is how it works as far as self-defense and gun rights.

1:50:35 You heard the Joy Reed bit, didn't you? I heard, yeah, yeah. I heard them all. I mean, they were melting down, which I'm thinking. Just rumors she's getting fired. And you know who's going to replace her? Don't tell me. Tiffany. Tiffany. Yeah, Tiffany, the one that does a Saturday show. The other black lady on MSNBC. She feels in for Joy sometimes. Tiffany, what is her name? Oh, man. You caught me off guard. We can look it up. Tiffany Cross. That's who's going to replace her. Yeah, she's a better choice. Because she is Ados. Yep. And we got it.

1:51:16 But you're going to see a lot of not Ace Doss getting people getting fired around 2022-2024 elections. Yeah. They realize that. Oh, you're so. That's a very good prediction. They realize that that is not working anymore. When guys as white as Adam Curry are falling over that, making problems. Now it's time to change that up. Yes. And that's the other lady with the Afro you were talking about as well. They're bringing, they're slowly cycling in a new group because they're, I think she's Ados. Yeah, I believe so. That's what I'm saying. Like they're getting the B team or the replacements ready. Yeah. So you start to see them coming out. Well, that's good. It'll be fresh faces. It'll be fun.

1:52:00 It makes television interesting. Yeah, I'm all for that. You want to finish this 16A clip, Mo? Yeah, let's go ahead. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, no problem. Huber uses his skateboard and tries to take Rittenhouse's gun. He ran up on somebody with an assault rifle dude with nothing like he was just going to tackle dude to the ground. Rittenhouse fired, killing 26-year-old Huber, who also lived in Kenosha. His girlfriend tearfully spoke with 12 News the very next day. He already killed someone. He killed someone already. And then he killed my life. Just ripped him away. After Huber, Gage Gross Kreutz of West Dallas in the crowd as a medic approaches Rittenhouse who is still on the ground.

1:52:42 Gross Kreutz is armed with a handgun. Rittenhouse shoots him in the arm. He was the lonely survivor. Wait, wait, what did he say? What? You write about my life just ripped him away. After Huber, Gage Grosskreutz of West Dallas in the crowd as a medic approaches Rittenhouse who is still on the ground. Gross Kreutz is armed with a handgun. Rittenhouse shoots him in the arm. He was the lone survivor. I walked away. with my life that night. Two people didn't. The judge ruled prosecutors cannot call the three men shot victims, but is allowing the defense to call them looters, rioters, or arsonists.

1:53:23 They can prove it. Reporting on Hillary Manila ISN, 12th News. Nice touch to say that he was a medic in the crowd. That's what they portrayed, that he was coming. He was armed. Yeah. He was not brandishing the arm under fire. He was trying to put him on equal footing with Kyle, just a medic who was armed. And also, the way I heard it was that he was coming in to give Kyle aid. Yeah. And Kyle just shot, was in such a blind rage. He was just letting it off with everybody. By the way, and I did say this on no agenda. I've been in court several times, but the first time, and it was a civil trial, it was MTV Network suing me, and I was counter-suing.

1:54:07 And it was interesting because I'd never been through Discovery. I'd never really been to court with a judge and the whole vibe and everything, and expensive lawyers. It was kind of crazy. It was about the MTV.com domain name, different story. And I remember the lawyer for MTV presenting their case with the same facts that I had. And I remember sitting there going, holy crap. Yeah, if you present it that way, I look like a total douchebag who's trying to steal from MTV, but with the same facts. And for me, that was like, whoa,

1:54:49 that's really scary stuff. That's why I was saying Lady Justice had a serious upskirt because people are now seeing how the sausage is made. I think it was a bad idea to televise this trial because it did more harm than good to the prosecution and prosecutors across the country because now we see and being complicit with the media to, you know, you see the people with this kind of propaganda we're hearing here. And we're going to get in the next batch of clips. These next eight clips, we can kind of speed through because I segmented them that way. So it seems like a lot of clips. But what it does is the prosecution's

1:55:35 claims and see how they line up with the two previous clips that we heard of what the media said happened. Okay. I got it. So this is going back to Nate the lawyer. And he does the, this is what he's great about. He does 50 hours in 10 minutes. So he did the 50 hours of court. Yeah. So it saves you on, you know, 50 hours to 10 minutes. That works for me. So what he's going to do is, like I said, we can play them and then talk a little bit in between them, but it's just going to highlight exactly what we heard in those clips, but from the prosecution's witnesses standpoint. But the first two are the opening statements. One and two are the opening statements from the prosecution and the defense.

1:56:18 So we can get into 17. First, we'll start with the opening statements. Now, opening statements are important because it allows the jury to get a preview of what each side is going to present. You get a preview of what the defense is going to present. You're going to get a preview of what the prosecution is going to present. So the state essentially painted Kyle as a vigilante and essentially said that Kyle chased down and tried to kill the victims. The defendant Kyle Rittenhouse, who was 17 years old at the time, had armed himself with an AR-15 style semi-automatic rifle loaded with 30 rounds in the magazine. And using that rifle, he shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum, an unarmed man.

1:57:01 The shot that killed Mr. Rosenbaum was a shot to the back. This occurred after the defendant chased down Mr. Rosenbaum and confronted him while wielding that AR-15. The evidence will show that the defendant fled the scene of the dead body of Joseph Rosenbaum without stopping to offer any aid whatsoever. Yeah. Well, some factually incorrect things in there. You can point them out and then we can keep moving. I just want to make this shot him in the back and was chasing him. Oops, sorry. Shot him in the back and was chasing him.

1:57:40 Both not true. And then he came back to the body and made a phone call. I don't know if he was rendering aid, but he made a phone call. I don't know who he was calling it to, but he just makes he shot him and ran off into the mess. But we can go ahead and move to number two now. Now, the defense attorney tried to combat that by alleging that Kyle didn't chase anyone, but he was the one being chased, and he acted in self-defense. makes no sense with what the state says about him hunting or chasing him down. He's trying to get away from the individual. You'll hear testimony, not just from Kyle Rittenhouse, but Bulch, Mr.

1:58:21 Balch, about Joseph Rosenbaum stating to Kyle and to Ryan Bulch in each other's presence: if I get either of you two alone, I'm going to kill you. Flat out threats to murder. When Mr. Rosenbaum is shot in the car source lot three, there's been a gunshot behind Kyle. He turns to address Mr. Rosenbaum of his firearm. Mr. Rosenbaum is not deterred. He continues to run. Now, remember, arguments are not evidence.

1:59:03 So the opening statements, you know, you can bolster a little bit. You can be a little flamboyant. But it's really going to come down to the witnesses. Yeah. Presenting in a completely different light, different settings. So we got two total different stories. And it's amazing that they're displaying the same event the way it was broken down. So now we get to get into the witnesses. So the only thing I could had to pull with the prosecution witnesses, this is how bad it was. It was great. So let's go ahead and get into the first witness for the prosecution. Now, obviously, since the state is the one alleging that Kyle did something bad, they have to put on a case in chief and prove their allegations.

1:59:46 So now we turn to the state's witnesses. Now, since this is a summary, let me just tell it to you stone cold. The state's witnesses have testified to these following things. One, that the alleged victim, Joseph Rosenbaum, chased and lunged at Kyle to grab his gun. Well, I was behind Mr. Rosenbaum, and Mr. Rittenhouse was on the other side of me and Rosenbaum. And so it was clear that they, as he lunged forward, they almost made contact. It wasn't clear if they did or not. And your perception was that evening, as you watched it, he was going for the barrel of the gun.

2:00:28 Correct. I think it was very clear to me that he was reaching specifically for the weapon. And because that's where his hands went. This Sab probably thought he was helping by saying that. Well, I think that you can say what you want to, but when you're facing perjury, see, that's the beautiful thing about perjury. You can say what you want to, but when you face a time if you lie, they're like, hey, these dead dudes ain't worth it. I'm going to go ahead and give up the goods. And that's kind of how that's the power and the, you know, of jail.

2:01:11 The good part of our justice system, I think, that, you know, you just can't get up there and say what you want to say without consequences because there's been a lot of false accusations made in the media, but this is why the trial was important to wait for. Good point. We're so used to people lying that you kind of forget that it's a big deal if you lie under oath. That's the beautiful thing about it, especially if it could be proven. It could be years in jail. So I think we stopped at two. Let's go ahead and get into three. Two, that the alleged victim, Joseph Rosenbaum, made death threats to Kyle. You and my client were present when Mr. Rosenbaum threatened you and Kyle, correct?

2:01:53 Correct. And he specifically said if he got either of you alone, he would expletive kill you. That's correct. Any doubt about that? No doubt about that. I told the FBI that. Yes. And that was right after, I'm going to get his name wrong. Dustin had put out dumpster fire. Correct. It was about 20 to 30 minutes before we headed south and the shooting started. Now, this testimony was so damning and so damaging to the prosecution's case that the prosecutor started challenging their own witnesses' credibility. Do these Goombas think that everybody is all in on this? I think your analysis is perfect.

2:02:36 Like, yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie for, screw these guys. I think the prosecutor had to go through with this trial. And it's like, what do you want me to do? I mean, I got a bunch of people that don't want to really testify to things that are not true. We could play games with the cameras and the, you know, the video. video. What I find disgusting in this whole thing is the FBI were flying drones over this whole situation. Yep. And nothing came out. Nothing was happening.

2:03:18 What games are we really playing here? Well, maybe they had the eye in the sky to give instructions. It could be that. And this is very reminiscent of the same way they were monitoring the riots in Baltimore via drone. See, I told you, we're debating a test. They run everything out over, like, okay, we'll run it in Baltimore, see how it goes. And if it works, we'll become operational. And this is the kind of thing that I'm seeing is the good people in the FBI, I'm telling you, y'all better start speaking up because the people are getting... And when I say the people, I mean, we've always been skeptical of the feds, but it's like...

2:04:00 People are making jokes about the FBI that way now on television, openly sometimes. That's my point. It's like you start losing everybody. What's your purpose? You lose respect. And then, yeah, no one cares. Yeah, so I think, excuse me, I think that was four. Yeah, now we're in five. Yeah, let's go and get into five now. Here's Mr. McGinnis, an eyewitness to the shooting. You don't know, as you sit here today, what Mr. Rosenbaum was thinking, do you? You mean at the time of the shooting? Yes. Or at any point in his life. I mean, you have no idea what Mr. Rosenbaum was ever thinking at any point in his life. You have never been inside his head. You never met him before.

2:04:41 You don't know him. I've never even, I've never exchanged words with him. That's what your question is. So your interpretation of what he was trying to do or what he was intending to do or anything along those lines is complete guesswork, isn't it? Well, he said, fuck you, and then he reached for the weapon. Nice editing, Mo. Well done. That wasn't me. That was Nate. I got to give it. That was Nate. Okay. But that was case closed right there. I mean, that was the end of it. And remind people, this is the prosecution witnesses. These are their witnesses. The defense really didn't have to do anything. And MSNBC was off at this point.

2:05:26 Yes. Of course. Yeah. It was like, no, no, we can't air this. We need to, you know, we need to call out all the good things. So where are we at? So we stopped at, what, six? Yeah. No, this is sixes now. Okay, let's go ahead and get into six. Now, when the prosecution witnesses kind of don't really help your case, the prosecutor then tried to bring in some forensic people to disprove the fact that people were reaching for Kyle's gun. For instance, Mr. Huber, who also was killed by Kyle Rittenhouse, allegedly hit Kyle with a skateboard and tried to grab the gun.

2:06:06 But the prosecutor tried to put doubt in the minds of the jury that Mr. Huber actually grabbed the gun by saying that there was no DNA found on the gun or none of Mr. Huber's DNA found on the gun. But that was easily overcome because there are pictures of Huber trying to grab the gun and their own witness said. Just because there's no DNA doesn't mean he didn't grab the gun. And so the fact that I don't know where that is on the gun, but the fact that the DNA isn't there, you know, everybody thinks DNA is this thing that proves everything. You'd agree that we can see he's actually touching the firearm.

2:06:50 What is your question? Well, the fact that it's not present, and I don't know where on the gun that is, but the fact that DNA is not present in any of the areas of the firearm for Mr. Huber doesn't mean that he didn't actually touch it. Correct. Whether DNA was detected from an individual or not does not mean that they did not touch that item. Yeah, this is an oldie but goodie that tried to do that because everyone in the world knows DNA solves crime. Man, Dean, Dana, as Medea would say, has been locking people up forever. And that's one of the things that they throw out that, oh, DNA.

2:07:32 DNA proved this. DNA proved that. And I've always been skeptical of DNA. But you know, you know, they cemented DNA in everyone's mind, don't you? What, paternity test? Jerry Springer. You better believe it, brother. Yeah. That's how they cemented that. It's like that shit's real because people fight when they use DNA. And this is the cornerstone of the family. family court and their power. You see how it's all coming around now? When do I graduate from this college course, Mo? Do I ever graduate? I guess not. It's all I'm going to do. I don't want to graduate. You got to do your course hours, man. I want work study. I want to keep going. But no, that's that's

2:08:15 it's science. Basically, this is when science took over the judicial system. Oh, we got DNA. We got DNA. We found DNA, you know, dishonorate somebody or find them guilty. What did the DNA say? And it's like, how did you collect it? How it was stored? And we've heard the horror stories of these labs. And, you know, they got eating in the lab and all kinds of stuff going on. And this is stuff with people's lives hand-joned. That's why the justice system has been thoroughly exposed. And for nothing else, I take joy in it because it's not justice. You know, the same thing could two things could be true. Kyle Rentenhauer could have been, excuse me, Kyle Rittenhouse could have gone down there with the illest intentions.

2:09:00 They just say he was. This is that he got his car and said, I'm going to take me some people out. And we're not going to take it anymore. Until you, that's a thought crime. Until he actually does something that's a crime, you can't be found in anything guilty. And I know people may get frustrated with me by saying that, but I kept the same energy with Bill Cosby. Now, we said two things could be true about Bill Cosby. He could have been actually guilty of all the things he'd been accused of. But if you can't get a good, clean conviction, I can't stand with it. You know, this is one of the things, and this is the only fair way, you know what I'm saying, we can have

2:09:44 equality is through the legal system. I mean, if you hear what people say, we want justice, we want justice, but this is not justice. This is equity and not equality. And just the quickest explanation is that they want the same outcomes. So it's like equal outcomes. So Kyle looks like he's guilty. So he needs to be guilty. No, we got to go through what the laws are. Well, this country built on the rule of law, and we have to get back to it. And many people talk about a two-tier justice system. And I agree with that because it's people with a lot of money and people with no money.

2:10:24 That's it. This has nothing to do with race or anything. And I've had it myself. You know, there's been IRS screwed me, you know, and they literally said, look, if you had $150,000, you could take us to court. You'd win easily. And you wouldn't have to pay the $75,000. How's that? If you had the money. Yeah. I'm not kidding. And you know what? If I had the money to spend, I would have done it just to say F you, IRS, even though it would have cost me twice as much. But just imagine that if you had, but this is what plays out on the lower level. If you had the money, you wouldn't have these troubles. Oh, yeah. It's like, I committed the crime because I don't have any money.

2:11:07 You know, so I got it. It's talking about like non-violent offensive drug dealing, weed, those kind of things. It's like, well, if I had the money, then I wouldn't be out here selling weed. Right. No, I understand the cycle. This problem. But it's just amazing to hear on the big money level of, you know, saying $75,000, $150,000. Like, you realize I don't have the money, or I just would have paid the taxes, right? You know, you get that point. Well, in this case, it was a dispute. I think they were wrong and they were wrong. And it was, I mean, and they admitted as much. But did you take it to trial? I'm just curious. No, no. No, I can't afford to do that.

2:11:48 So how'd you get? I would not get it to you. But this is the thing where we talk about the conviction rate of how many things actually go to trial. This legal system is built off of people pleaing out. Yeah. You know, of oh, scary numbers. Ooh, here's 20 years. Just say you did it. Even if you didn't, you know what I'm saying? It'll all go away. That's what they told you. Even pay it if you know, even though you don't owe it. It'll all go away. And exactly what's being, this is what's being exposed right now. And I'm all for it. So I think we stopped at six. Let's go ahead and get into seven. Now, I don't want to understate this fact about the first week of trial. Every witness has made it very clear that the first victim, Wilson Baum, was starting fires, was challenging armed people and saying things like, shoot me.

2:12:39 Hey, somebody control me. go! And even threatened Kyle's life when Mr. Rosenbaum threatened you and Kyle, correct? Correct. And he specifically said if he got either of you alone, he would expletive kill you. That's correct. Any doubt about that? No doubt about that. Told the FBI that? Yes. And again, I want to make it very clear. These are the prosecution's witnesses. Yeah. Told the FBI that. How can you

2:13:20 make a case for him being found guilty if the prosecution witnesses that they chose and selected and put on the stand are telling this story? I don't, I don't, and this goes to your claim about mass formation. You have to be in mass formation to buy this and the Jacob Blake situation. And that, well, okay, so we saw what they did during the trial. We saw certainly what they did and we heard what they said after the trial. With they, I mean, M5M, but specifically MSNBC and CNN.

2:14:00 And in mass formation, from what I understand from Professor DeSmet, who taught us this, it's actually the more absurd, the better. So the more absurd things you ask people to do in mass formation, i.e., tell people that this is exactly the opposite and that this is totally racial and et cetera, et cetera. That it just they're going along with it. They cannot help themselves. But then you get like the Anna from Young Turks. She was breakable. She broke out of the mass formation.

2:14:39 I got my eye on her. She's very interesting now. Let's see what happens. Because she all of a sudden, and she, because she didn't just break through, she said, you got to question your sources. No kidding. And I'll say, yeah, I think you can break through it, but you just have to keep hammering away, hammering away. And that's why I did this show and the way I'm doing it. That a lot of people have not heard these facts. Normally, I don't get in the weeds on the blow-by-blow, and I didn't get into them here. It's where, you know, breaking down all this with the skateboard, whatnot. I want you to hear the prosecution's witnesses say what happened.

2:15:20 If you hear that and walk away from this, seeing it any kind of other way, as far as what happened legally, I don't know. I mean, I have to pray for you to break out of the mass formation. I mean, because it's strong on you, the 30% that are in mass formation cannot get, it will not get them out. You can't convince them. The 40% that just go along with it. Yes. And I think that this show in particular is great material for someone to help other people who they know are just kind of going along with it. And because that's really the breakdown, according to the professor: 30% completely hypnotized, can't change their mind, forget about it, not worth it. 40% go along with the program. 30%, that's us.

2:16:04 Okay. And so the 30% can use that on the 40% because then all of a sudden you have 70% and then it doesn't matter. And we just keep chipping away at it. And the way they do that is, and I'll say this, using good information. Because I think bad information, and you've ran into this a couple of times, can totally derail the, you know, trying to help somebody because once they find anything to revert back to that formation, they're going to go running back to like, oh, I found one little flaw. And this is how fact checkers work. Because when I looked at the fact checkers for this thing and the victims,

2:16:43 the people that were shot, it was like, oh, yeah, they were pedophiles, but not kind of like that pedophile. Yeah, yeah. You know, it was like, huh? How can you even find that? They were minor attracted persons. Oh, don't, you're about to get me on a whole nother. Yeah, that's a hard trigger for me. That's a hard trigger for me here. Move on. Yeah, so number eight. Now, let's talk about the defense. The defense seems to just be watching the trial like we all are. They're not objecting to really anything. They're just letting everything kind of go fast and loose because they got a simple self-defense claim here.

2:17:21 Now, you'll see most of us attorneys are a little frustrated that the defense is kind of just letting everything go rough shot, but that's okay because they still, I believe, have a winning case. Now, remember at the beginning of this video when I showed you the prosecutors saying that Kyle chased down Rosenbaum and then shot him kind of like indiscriminately? Well, it's interesting that all of their witnesses, all of the prosecution's witnesses, have rebuilt. rebutted the prosecutor's opening statement. So at this point in time, I don't know where this trial is going to go from here. When we have all your witnesses saying that the kid acted in self-defense, why are we here? Why are we here? This doesn't seem like a murder trial. Yeah, there's your question.

2:18:03 Why are we here? I'm going to get to that, but what we have to do first is provide some perspective for the people, the 40% that may not get it now, but may get it eventually. But you have to seek first to understand and to be understood. I'm going to get to that, but I need to make this one quick point. The defense did do something in this case. They told Kyle, get up on that stand and give it up, give up the goods, cry like nobody's business. Now, I'm not saying it wasn't genuine, but they probably told him, Don't you hold it back. You get that feeling? Because I think that's what did it. Like you said, you can't put your baby.

2:18:47 He put that crying on to say, look, I'm just a kid, you know, and he broke, he broke. We broke him. They broke him to the point of, and then I think that's what the defense told him because there's no other reason for him to go on that stand other than to cry. This makes sense to me because I, you know, there were two prosecutors, two lawyers for the defense, and I really didn't like the Goomba guy. And the thing that I didn't like about him is he would say stuff like, come on, people. You know, and I heard that. I'm like, does that work on juries? She's like, come on, people. I didn't like it. I was like, I don't think I like him.

2:19:32 And this is exactly the kind of guy that could, I think we need to give him a lot more credit because he probably teed Kyle up. No one told Kyle to do that because you can't, what he, that was real emotion. But did the Goomba guy tee him up? I totally believe that. Totally. What I'm saying is they said, don't hold it back. Yeah, yeah. I think they gave him the same speech they give Don Lemon and Van Jones. Damn. If you feel it coming, Van, just go with the feeling. Well, hell yeah. Of course. They all got the same point. And like I said, when you're facing life in jail, it don't take you much to cry. So I'm not saying that it was disingenuous, but they teed him up. Of course.

2:20:17 Those tears was currency. And it was super triggering. It was, if you're going to do an op anyway, let's trigger the heck out of people. And that, and that, and that, and it, and it worked on all sides. If you were pro-Kyle, you, oh my God, the poor kid. If you hated Kyle, like, I look at this full of crap kids. I mean, like, King James, King James even tweeted about it. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, that's, that's what I think the defense did. It's like, hey, you're going to get, when you go up there, don't hold back. Don't dislay. I mean, because I'm sure he's been crying the whole time. I'm sure. I mean, I would have probably been crying behind closed doors facing life. You know what I'm saying?

2:21:02 You had to wake up some morning to be like, I'm facing life in prison. Yeah. Like, I know I got a good case, but still. He's been in jail for three months. Yeah. So, but now I'm going to provide perspective because people may be saying, well, how did this kid get off when we've seen so many other cases of bullcrap, you know, charges and the legal system screwing young kids over? One case being this teen that was thrown in violent New York prisons. Now we have an eyewitness news exclusive, a travesty. A young boy thrown in jail as a 16-year-old high school sophomore. Now, more than three years later, this young man is free.

2:21:44 Criminal charges completely dropped. And good evening again at 5:30. I'm Diana Williams. And I'm Sade Better and Wai. It is an outrageous case of justice derailed. How could it take three years for prosecutors in the Bronx DA's office to figure out they didn't have a case while a teenager sat in jail on Rikers? Investigative reporter Sarah Wallace joining us now with her exclusive story. Sarah. Well, Diana and Sade, the Bronx DA's office is refusing to say anything about this case, using the excuse that Khalif Browder has now filed a civil rights lawsuit. He was a teenage kid walking home from a party, literally snatched off the street and charged with robbery.

2:22:25 It was a weak case from the very beginning. I spent three New Year's in there, three, four of my birthdays. I spent a lot of holidays in there. 20-year-old Khalif Browder may be physically free, but mentally he is still trapped behind bars on Rikers. Rikers, where every day was a battle to survive. It's very hard when you're dealing with this dudes that's wild tall and they did big, you know what I'm saying? And they got weapons and shanks, and then they're in gangs. And you know, if you don't give your phone call up or you don't give him what he wants, you know, they're going to jump you because he got about other 15 other gang members. It's very scary. This was what, maybe 10 years ago or something? It was 2016, I want to say. Oh, okay.

2:23:10 Or it's 15, somewhere around in there. Maybe, or I'm maybe off my date. Wow, this gives perspective for people to say, how does this kid get off with killing three people? We had to seek first to understand. And this kid didn't get to trial for three years. He didn't get to trial for three years on a stolen book bag. And this kid went through hell in jail. So I'm just providing perspective for how people could see it through a racial lens to say the court system is on some book. Well, but also, let's be real. Where was Rev Al? Well, I'll say, I think Jay-Z and them did some after the fact, but

2:23:55 your great point. And that's the other thing that, because you know why? Because there was no racial angle. There was only a poverty angle and a kid angle. That's all. There was no racial angle. So no one gave a shit. The media didn't care. The Reverend didn't care. Nobody cared. This poor kid just rotting away. And that's what now you're understanding how people can get to the point where they don't care about Kyle. Because it's like, nobody cared about him, Khalif. So why should we care about Kyle? You know, I mean, he's sitting there for three years waiting on trial. Why can't he sit? I'm just providing perspective for how people can just be so hardened with their viewpoint of how this didn't turn out the way they wanted it to turn out.

2:24:37 People also have very poor historical recollection. Yes. You know, people really don't remember stuff past two weeks ago. And that's not, that's not crazy to understand because of the amount of information we're processing as human beings. We're taking on way more information than our brains are meant to take on if you think about man and nature. But that's a whole nother story for another day. But let's get into the second part of Khalif's story. In May of 2010, he was a 16-year-old 10th grader walking home on Arthur Avenue and the Bronx after a party. The guy comes out of nowhere and says, I robbed him. And the next thing you know, they're putting the culture. I don't even know this dude.

2:25:20 And then I do three years over three years for something I didn't even do with. Router's family couldn't make the $10,000 bail on the robbery charges. And he had a legal aid attorney. Router is now represented by a civil rights. Oh, I got to stop. Okay. So this is what I'm hearing now. Now it starts to make sense. So if we don't have a racial angle, then we don't give a shit about the case. The mainly Democrats who are behind all of this racial politicization feel so guilty about these cases that they say, well, we've got to do something for them too. You know, we're fixing everything using the race angle.

2:26:04 But, you know, if there's no racial angle, so we'll just make sure that everyone gets out of jail and you can, you know, that you can get amnesty. You never have to go to jail, steal up to $950 worth of stuff. Is that a possibility? Yeah, that's why I was talking about the equity. They want the outcome. Yes, yes. The equal outcome is not the equal opportunity. That could be a better way of explaining justice. We want people to be set free. White guys go free all the time. We want black guys to go free all the time. That kind of thing. I got you. I got you. But what they don't do is they don't understand that these people are just going to go back to their communities and victimize the people again.

2:26:47 And again and again and again and again. You're only going to make your neighbors worse. I'm going to restart the clip. In May of 2010, he was a 16-year-old 10th grader walking home on Arthur Avenue and the Bronx after a party. The guy comes out of nowhere and says, I robbed him. And the next thing you know, they're putting the coach around. I don't even know this dude. And then I do three years over three years for something I didn't even do with. Rowders family couldn't make the $10,000 bail on the robbery charges. And he had a legal aid attorney. Rowdy is now represented by a civil rights law firm. What was bad about this case? Pretty much everything. One witness identification from a stranger. No evidence, no property recovered.

2:27:31 Months turned into years. He tried to commit suicide several several times. times. It was just all balling in my head to the point where I just like, I just like, I had to just grab my head. Like, I can't take it. He missed his sister's wedding, the birth of his nephew, and so many family events. In January, Browder says he was offered a plea deal after 33 months in jail. He refused. And the judge, she was trying to give me time serving, I wasn't taking it. And she told me if I, if I lose trial, I could get 15 years. Just take the time serving. You go home today if you say you did. I didn't do it. I'm not saying I did that. He went back to jail. In June, he was suddenly freed with no explanation. No apology, no nothing. They just said, oh, case dismissed. Don't worry about nothing.

2:28:14 Like, don't, what do you mean, don't worry about nothing? I just took over three years of my life. He's now trying to make up for those three high school years he lost, taking courses to get his GED. I didn't get to go to Palm, graduation, nothing. Those are the bad years. I'm never going to get those years back. Never. Never. It'd be interesting to have a follow-up. See what happened with him. He killed himself. He was facing another charge and he killed himself before he went back to jail. So that's what I'm saying. Now you are. Now, that's why I said seek first to understand and to be understood. Now, when people say that slowly, Mario, say that slowly, seek first to understand, then to be understood. Got it.

2:29:00 You have to understand the perspective of people who saying, this is some bullcrap that Cal got off because they hear stories like this and hear how the justice system jerked them around. And it's not that they, it's you get so beat down in your mindset that you don't want better, you just want worse for other people. How is it that you see these things so clearly when it's so obvious how traumatized most African Americans, so-called black people, are because I just go off the facts.

2:29:40 No, no, that's your problem. I'm just wondering what did you not eat or what did you eat as a kid? What was it? Because you're truly exceptional. It's very, that's so fucking astute how you bring this to light. You don't have to answer that. You don't have to answer that. That's just me. I mean, because I want to help other people understand that don't get caught up in the mass formation. Like for a turn to be coin mass formation, that explains the condition. Yeah. And it's on all sides. It's all everyone's in a form of it somewhere. Correct. And then we just manipulate the ones and C-Rows in the binary world

2:30:26 to get them to act the way we want. And then once you're dissatisfied for the justice system, everybody introduce this is a throwback clip for 59, but this is the solution right here: algorithms. One particularly popular and now widespread algorithm is used at the point of arrest to make bail decisions. And conceptually, it's a pretty simple idea. A defendant who's been charged with a crime is information is extracted from them and is fed into a computer algorithm. And that computer algorithm outputs a risk factor. And that risk factor is meant to quantify the likelihood that that person will commit a crime in the future. Think of a really simple version of the minority report without the creepy people in the pools.

2:31:11 And if you are assessed to be high risk, well, then the judge may deny bail and you will be held in prison awaiting trial. And if you are assessed to be low risk, then you may be released pending trial. Now, in 2016, investigative journalists from ProPublica published a troubling report on one particularly popular and widespread predictive algorithm that is used in the courts around this country. And what they found is that this particular algorithm was significantly disadvantageous to black defendants.

2:31:46 What they found is that if you were a black defendant, you are nearly twice as likely to be predicted as reoffending when you did not. That happened 44% of the time if you were black, and only 23% of the time if you are white. That is a staggering difference. And at the same time, you were almost twice as likely to be predicted as not offending when in fact you did if you were white as compared to black. That happened 47% of the time versus 28% of the time. So in other words, the algorithm is biased to black defendants against black defendants. Hey, you ready for it? You ready for it? Revelation. Here we go.

2:32:27 With the algorithms, they may. may already be able to, but certainly will be able to literally dial up or dial down violence whenever they want it, whenever they need it. Which we saw, even think about it, that's what we saw at Kenosha. In a manual way, like, let's, well, we need more criminals on the street. Let them go. Let them free. Right. But I mean, they can predict exactly who they need. They can predict where they need him, what they will do. And then, dude, we just start a Telegram group or a WhatsApp group or whatever. Hey, this is the

2:33:10 official group of the protest. They send people individual messages. They can totally dial this up or down. And it's the easiest way to control the situation. And I think they were manifesting. And we're still not done with the Aubrey trial, which is a whole nother problematic. And I said problematic. I want to kill myself now. It's going to be a problem. That one. I'm just interested to see how it's going to go. The case pretty much is, like I said, I don't comment on the case to act. It's over because you never know what could be presented. But yeah, so now here's a case. Now, this is the Texas shooting, school shooting that happened recently.

2:33:55 Breaking developments that school shooting authorities racing to the scene in Arlington, Texas, outside Dallas. This time at Timberview High School, the gunfire ringing out early this morning. One of the victims shot a young English teacher. He is 25 years old. Tonight, he's in the hospital. A 15-year-old in the hospital, too, who had been in critical condition, now recovering in the ICU. Word of an active shooter reaching police just after 9 this morning, armed officers running inside. The suspect quickly identified as an 18-year-old student at the school fleeing in a car, triggering a massive hunt and a warning that he was armed and dangerous. Students and teachers barricading themselves with doors, the chairs and desks behind those doors, huddling there in the dark.

2:34:39 Outside, a massive law enforcement response, securing the school, getting the injured medical help. Law enforcement rushing to his home nearby. They did not find him there. Tonight, after searching for hours, the gunman turning himself in and what we've now learned. ABC's Marcus Moore leading us off here from Texas tonight. Tonight, a shooting at this Arlington, Texas high school, leaving four people hurt. This is not a random act of violence. This is not somebody attacking our schools. Officials saying it all started around 9:15 this morning. Authorities now reviewing videos posted to social media appearing to show a fight. We believe right now, preliminary, that it was a student that got into a fight and drew a weapon.

2:35:25 Bop, bop, bop. That's six sides, six, seven sides back to bat. Yeah. Did you hear about this case? Yes. Yes, I did. So it was a weird thing going on where they didn't want to call him a school shooter and, you know, that kind of thing. But the reason why I'm bringing this up is it connects to the Kyle Rittenhouse case because I want to highlight some what about isms on both sides. So the way I did it last on the last set of clips was, well, look at Khalif and look at Kyle. What about Khalif? What about what happened to Khalif? Now, in this case, if it was a white kid who had done this.

2:36:06 Right. Or it's, hold on. Kyle sit in the jail for what, four months or how many months he sit in jail? Three months. Three months, excuse me, three months. And now this kid gets out the next day after doing a school shooting. This is that what you're talking about. They're playing with these algorithms and news stories to keep people in a constant state of just outrage. Outrage. That's a great word. It's constant outrage and what about isms. And what reason why I'm bringing this up was when Kyle got out of jail, you saw him celebrating with his friends, whatnot, and this picture.

2:36:48 And they have almost an identical picture of this guy. You're so right. You're so right. Celebrate, having a party after he gets out of jail. And it's just the Spider-Man meme of pointing at each other. And they do this to play this, play it off each other. So we can get into the number 29 now. Timothy George Simpkins has been released after posting Bond. The 18-year-old is accused of shooting three people at Temperview High School in Arlington yesterday. Two students and a teacher were all taken to the hospital. One of those victims, a 15-year-old student, remains in the ICU. Police say all three victims are expected to. to recover. Simpkins is facing three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

2:37:29 Police say he pulled out a gun after a fight with another student. The school was put on lockdown while police searched for him. He eventually showed up at a local police station with a lawyer to turn himself in. Investigators say the gun they believe he used was found two miles from the school along a street in Grand Prairie. Classes are canceled at Timberview today, and counseling has been made available to students and staff. Yeah, wow. Yeah. No, I heard about it because it's a Texas story, but I right away knew, like, oh, okay, I got it. You can tell in the reporting. There's no description of the shooter. It's like, okay, we know exactly what's going on right away.

2:38:09 And the charges either. I thought there would be attempted murder. I mean, I would think that would be the charge I want to give him, but it's no, it's assault with a deadly weapon, which is like, that's weird. But this, like I said, I only highlight those to show the what about isms. And this is what divides people and keeps people on the two sides. And this is purposely done by the media. This is this is all what go back. This only lends to your whole point of this being a psyop. Yep. With that said, let's go ahead and thank some more people for making this happen. I like brand new money. I just don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20.

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2:46:36 Boost us with a new podcast app, newpodcastapps.com, or go to mofax.com to support the show directly with your fiat fun coupons. Anything is appreciated. It's really all highly valued. Thank you again. Lauria Nate asks, what is this? And I think that's a very good question. You said it's a psyop, which I do agree, but I think the psyop also has a primary motive. And I think Joy Reed tipped her hat in this recent clip. All right, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we are as a country. country. Whether armed primarily white men right there. I mean, that's it. This is the complete psychopath two cases.

2:47:22 They're doing A and B and triggering off each other. Am I close? No. Okay. Yeah, but we want it because you stepped on it a little bit. Yeah, I'll back it up. I'll back it up. Okay. All right, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we are as a country. Whether armed, primarily white men can continue to take matters into their own hands and serve as judge, jury, and executioner legally under the law. Yeah. There's the trial of teenage vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse, where jurors just moments ago broke for the day. Vigilante. And the trial of father and son Greg and Travis McMichael and their neighbor William Roddy Bryant. They stand accused of murdering 25-year-old Ahmad Arbery in what many have called a modern-day lynching.

2:48:05 The three men claimed that this was just a citizen's arrest gone wrong. Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty, claiming self-defense. The prosecution argued that Rittenhouse was a chaos tourist who lied about what happened that night and provoked the initial interaction with Rosenbaum, which set in motion the chain of events that night in August of last year. Since then, Rittenhouse has become a right-wing hero. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, remember them, the St. Louis couple pardoned by Donald Trump when he was president for aiming guns at Black Lives Matter protesters. Well, they've showed up the past two days to support Rittenhouse. They claimed that the teenager, who mind you, shot and killed two people, is the real victim, the victim of cancel culture.

2:48:46 And another weird twist, Rittenhouse actually participated in choosing the final 12 men and women who will decide his fate by pulling numbers from a Tumblr, like a macabre game show. The six he randomly chose become alternates. Well, you want to know what I heard? Go ahead. Go ahead. So this was almost like it's almost like a one-two punch setup where we get every we get the poster boy for it looks like, as you pointed out, total vigilante, totally believable. He's, you know, he hangs out with the junior proud boys. I mean, you can totally see it. Homegrown violent extremist, the kind of January 6th type person, and arms white man.

2:49:31 And then the Aubrey case, which from what I've read, I've seen almost zero coverage of it from what I've read, sounds like those guys should they murdered this guy unlawfully. And so that's very powerful to have those two cases one after another, regardless, even. It's kind of like, well, okay, that one didn't work. Now, this one, you know, this is so clear that even Republicans can see it. And, you know, that will be a very powerful trigger depending on the outcome of that trial. And what they really wanted was coming out of November, the elections, they would have said Virginia took over a lot of

2:50:17 political real estate. You would have had the school year going, you know, going in, CRT firmly implanted. You would have had the vaccines, the kids getting jabbed. I mean, the Democratic side was supposed to be on a roll right now. You get Kyle and you get the Aubrey guy, murderers, or people that's being accused of murdering them. You get these, all these are supposed to be slammed dunks, but everything's unraveled for them. And I think they're like, dang it. Like, we took an L in Virginia, which was big. We took an L with this Kyle Rittenhower case. We took an L with critical race theory. That's very interesting.

2:51:04 You're saying here that these trials were scheduled. The timing was. Yeah, I like that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, no, that just makes it a bigger, bigger thing than I thought. Yeah, okay. That's very good. Right. So, I mean, you got like the esoteric thing on this blood room moon that comes around every, I think, five to six hundred years. You got to throw the witches in. You got it all going. Thank you. That's a custom. That's custom therapy. Custom theorem on the spot. But I think that's the point of what they wanted. But the whole goal is the guns.

2:51:43 The whole because if you listen to that beginning of that clip again, the first made first. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's white men with guns armed. That's not what she said. Listen to what she said again. Oh. All right. Oops, hold on a second. 31. Yeah. All right, everybody. Good evening. We begin the readout tonight with two cases, which will once again tell us where we are as a country. Whether armed, primarily white men can continue. Primarily primarily white men, we're coming for all the guns. And that's the fool's errand or the foolish logic that you think you're going to be able to keep your guns and they're only going to take white people guns?

2:52:27 I don't think so. They're coming for everybody's guns. Well, this is every time. Go ahead. Well, this is part of the crossing state lines that they keep talking about. That's dropped in there specifically to talk about a legal thing that has to change. We need a federal law for guns passing across state lines. Yes, because you can do that. That's one power the United States president has. And the federal government in general can make laws about interstate travel. And it could be an interesting way of doing it. It's kind of an OSHA way of mandating the shot, but okay, we'll see how it goes.

2:53:06 And I'm glad you brought up OSHA because to be honest with you, the only thing keeping the needle out of our arms is guns. Let's just keep it 100%. I mean, we would be Australia if it wasn't for guns right now on a lot of issues. Yeah, I'm sad to say, to agree. They have to get rid of the guns and they're trying to do it any way possible. And I keep stressing the MS and NBC. The MS stands for Microsoft. Who's over Microsoft? Dr. Bill. They want these guns. And anytime you start taking away, trying to take away my Second Amendment right, no, I can't get on board with that.

2:53:45 No, no, no, because that's the only thing that protects your First Amendment right. See, that's that's but this is where they want you at to say, look, white people are the only people that have Second Amendment rights or First Amendment rights. If we take away from them, then you will be equal. Equity. I don't want it that way. No, no. No, me neither, Mo. Once again, we're so similar. That ain't the way I want this to go down. I want all the privileges that they're granted to me by my rights. Don't take my rights away and their rights away to make us equal. No. And that's why I can't get on board with this. And MSNBC did this

2:54:23 piece a while ago. And I've been, this is like, I think right around 2019, 2020 on black militia groups. Oh, I saw some of this. Yeah. Like I said, they start with us. They start with this was the this was the oh scary black people with guns before they did the scary white people with guns 32. Now to the concerns of another community that too often feels unprotected and the group that's stepping up to do something about it. They're known as the NFAC, an unarmed all-black militia.

2:55:03 You might have seen an armed black militia that you might have seen at protests in Georgia, Kentucky, and D.C. Joining us now from Atlanta with more on this, NBC News correspondent Morgan Radford. Morgan, tell us about this group. Mika, good morning. The bottom line is this group says that the U.S. government, as well as law enforcement, simply does not do enough to protect black Americans in this country, which is why they say they're taking matters into their own hands. And interestingly, Mika, this is a group that is growing. They say they now boast recruits in nearly every single state. So we decided to go and embed with them and see exactly what they're doing and why. Take a listen. The sounds of war

2:55:49 right here at home. This is the NFAC. An all-black militia with a mission to defend the black community by any means necessary. So this is training for one of the new factors. Yes. Appearing by the hundreds at protests from Stone Mountain, Georgia to Levil, Kentucky, demanding justice for police killings and countering what they believe is the threat of right-wing militias. Yeah, I remember this. Yeah. So the MSNBC is embedded their words. Yeah, you only do that with friendly soldiers. Well, I think they appear to be friendly, but I think it's more to this story.

2:56:33 So this is when you had the scary black people popping up with guns and they had poor trigger control. What is called when you don't have your finger in the trigger? What is that called? Dumb dumb. What's it called, though? What's the word? Trigger, my brother. You can finger your trigger. Yeah, was it called something trigger something? But anyway, I mean, I don't want to belabor the point, but it was just, I think people got shot and it was. errantly, and it just, it was, it just stumped to me.

2:57:10 I'm like, where does this come out of, you know, out of the blue? And, and, and I'll get more into it on the other side of this clip, but it just stumped the hot hell to me. It's a movement started in 2017 by this man, former musician and army veteran John Grandmaster Jay Johnson. Is the movement growing by leaps and bounds? We met with him outside of Cincinnati, where he says another new chapter is now in the works. The NFAC stands for the not effing around coalition. What's behind the name? The NFAC was born out of the last four years under the Trump administration. The deterioration of racial relations in this country means that you're preparing yourself to defend yourselves.

2:57:54 While the group style echoes the Black Panther Party of the 1960s, their goals are distinct, focusing on defense with the ultimate goal of a black ethno-state. What makes us so different is that our goal is our own government, our own country, a place where we can determine our own future. Is violence an option to reach your goals? The United States was built on violence being an option. Violence should be the last option. Yeah, we talked about this group. They tried to buy some land and build like a newspaper. You're confusing them with the land back. That was also NFAC.

2:58:38 Did they try to buy land? I know the land back. Yeah, in Texas, they were going to try and buy something. Okay. But this guy, Jam Master Jay or whatever his name is. Grandmaster. Grandmaster. Yeah, you know, could be the same guy. You don't know. It's so comical because you can tell on YouTube. YouTube's algorithm is a great detection mechanism for who they're trying to push to you. Okay. Because you'll see just people pop up in your suggestion feed. I saw this with 6ix9ine, the rapper. I mean, Tatashi6ix9ine, they just bombarded you. I'm like, I don't even know this guy. I don't even listen to his music.

2:59:19 Why is he showing up in my feed? Now this guy was just all over my feed. From what you're saying, from the things that I understand, I watch. And I'm like, who is this guy? And like, he's talking all reckless. And, and it's just like, I mean, you just have certain vibes on people. It's like you lead and knock people into a burning house. Do you know what I'm saying? To take a quote from Martin Luther King. Like, you don't have any strategy. And then to say, oh, this is cropping up from the last four years. If you said the last 400 years, I might have like, it would have gone over smoother. You see the last four years, that sounds political to me. Why all of a sudden, the last four years? Yeah, good point. Trayvon Martin was four years longer than four years ago.

3:00:01 The Baltimore Riots were longer than four years ago. You know, the shootings in Baton Rouge and Dallas was longer than four years ago. So don't play these games with me. You see what I'm saying? But I'll let you get to the final clip. This guy just didn't sit well with me when I heard it. Extremism experts say the group is distinct from far-right militias. They have not risen to the level of concern of, say, the three percenters, the oath keepers. They have not engaged in violence. In fact, in most of their demonstrations, they have, in fact, coordinated their activities with police. When you talk about January 6th and we saw those rioters storm the Capitol, what do you say to critics who say you're no different from them?

3:00:46 They're extremists, you're extremists. Show me where we have done those things. They've killed people. They've disrespected the government to the point where they have invaded its sacred halls. Show me where we've done those things. Stop, stop. They disrespected the government. Ain't this the same government you're trying to overthrow? I'm confused. I'm confusing here. See, it's these, you got to listen to what people say. Well, I'm also saying it. I'm also looking at some of the pictures. You remember they were at the Stone Mountain and they weren't going to let Trump do his speech there. And it was a whole bunch of crap with these guys. Right. And I'm not saying him.

3:01:30 He represents, this is kind of like Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter. Yeah, sure. Kind of thing where you have people that really are into guns and protection and Second Amendment that may share the same thoughts on protecting ourselves, but then they get sucked up into these. I'm going to call it what it is, a honeypot. This guy, you know what I'm saying? And it was a lot of agent claims around. around him in certain circles. Yeah, I can see why. Right. So it's, but for who is the question. So

3:02:09 it's just, I saw what was going on here. Let's get a bunch of scary black people together and with guns and go make confrontation at Stone Mountain, which they have the right to the same way Kyle had the right to form a militia and protect their property and protest. If it's legal, it's legal. But it's the way he did it. It had me, it's like it was, it was setting them up to fail. And you can hear more of that in the clip. We have done those things. They've killed people. They've disrespected the government to the point where they have invaded its sacred halls. Show me where we've done those things because we have done none of them. What are you all training for?

3:02:51 We're training for self-defense. A response to show they won't be scared or unprotected any longer. Mika, we asked the group several times to give us an exact number of their membership. They refused to do so, but it appears to be in the thousands based on the number of people who have come to their marches and also based on the number of people we saw at one individual training session. But it's also important to note, Mika, that the NFAC has no record of violent incidents. However, their leader, Grand Master Jay, has been recently indicted on federal charges by federal officials who allege that he pointed a rifle at officers during that demonstration and supported Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky last September.

3:03:35 That case is ongoing. He says pleaded not guilty, and we are waiting to find out the results of that case, Mika. That gave me the same vibes as the proud boy leader being extracted right before January 6th. It's like, who are these people? This reminds me of, I did a documentary in 90 or 91, and part of it was in Florida near Miami. And we were going to interview this group. And as it turns out, you know, this is the kind of group that you see on television. Well, so this group of Cubans, Cuban exiles, who ever since

3:04:16 the revolution and they came over to the United States, they've been making sure they've been practicing every weekend. They go out deep into the swamps and they get together and they shoot and they do military drills, etc. And so we came in as a documentary crew, kind of, it was like a, you know, like a kind of a rock and roll type documentary. So just show, just doing cool stuff. And it's like, oh, let's go check out these Cuban guys who are shooting shit up. It's almost like Civil War reenactment. Only what they're doing is they're staying prepared for 40 years. They're staying prepared for the revolution when they need to go and take back their country. And you would see these guys, whenever there's something going on with Cuba, they show these guys.

3:05:01 It's a version of that. And it would be the same guys. And they're shooting weird left and right. It's totally uncoordinated. Not like these guys, NFAC, they had it down, also younger, but it's the same mechanism. And it's perfect for really, it's a news. It's a television news mechanism. It's really good. It's effective. Right. And they wanted to use them to play off of the white militias, especially going down to Stone Mountain and things like that. Exactly. And you keep these guys funded for years and years, man, making sure they get some guns or whatever they need, you know, hook them up a little bit.

3:05:36 They keep them going. And the funny thing was, and this should go to show you the actual value of guns, when you got armed black men and armed white men together, nobody got shot. Yeah, I know. Surprisingly. Like in Michigan. Remember, they were all outside the state, the capital? Right. That's equality. Yeah. It was black guys, white guys all strung out. They were all military garb, all looking the same. Yeah. Right. But that's what I'm saying. That's equality. Right there. I got guns. You got guns. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, we can see how it go. But you know what? We have stuff we have to take care of when we walk away from here.

3:06:20 So the cooler heads prevail. Yeah. So that's what they don't want to happen. But I've seen this before, and we covered this in a show. And we need to just go through these clips right quick, but this is just a throwback to what I think is happening with the whole white militias. We saw this before with the Black Panthers. In early 1967, the Black Panthers organized armed patrols through the poorest neighborhoods of Oakland, California, an act that some call the beginning of the modern gun rights movement. Walk up. up to the scene. Those who had rifles would carry them in the open.

3:07:03 Clearly visible. We would stand at a distance where the police couldn't say they were interfering with their arrest or their detention of the individual and make sure that there's no brutality. The police were confronted by citizens who were not just voicing their opinions, but were armed. Oh, can I close the door for a second? Sure. How long in the future do you plan these shows? I mean, this is that's 20 shows ago. And so just tell me, are you like 10 episodes ahead, 15?

3:07:50 It doesn't work quite like that, but I can see I open folders and throw stuff in them like, oh, that's going to come back around. That kind of thing. So, yeah. I like how you roll. All right. Thank you. Appreciate that. Sorry, everybody. We're back. Yes. So I can see how this thing sets up. It's that we want the guns. And my issue with that is you taking my gun leave me completely unprotected. And this is how GBG created itself. That this is the only way I can protect. You say, you say, not you, but they say that I'm the most vulnerable, most in need of protection.

3:08:34 So give me a gun. And allow me to protect myself. And they're using these guys and this whole concept to take them away. Yes. It's beautiful. And they just keep the cycle going and going and going and going and going. We don't have to get into the second clip. I just wanted to illustrate that we've seen this before. You heard them say that was the beginning of the modern gun control. Black guys show up with guns at the state house. Oh, we got to do something about this. White guys show up to the Capitol with guns. Oh, we got to do something about it. And NAS, and they're going to take our guns with them. And it's like, no, you can't have my gun because at the end of the day, that's the only way I can protect myself.

3:09:15 And I'm going to be honest with you. And this may be a hot take right here, but I want more cow rent houses in the black community. And what I mean by that is black young men that would go to in the face of violence and say no more. That would say, you know what? It was 40 shooters in Chicago today, this weekend. No more. We're going to say we're going to patrol our own neighborhoods with weapons. What's that seems like? What's this group of dads? I saw a group of dads recently. Thank you. What was, I forget their name, but they were down in Louisiana, I believe. Yeah. And they showed up and said, no more. That's exactly what I'm saying. The young men, this thing, the young men say that, no, you're not.

3:09:57 No, we're going to have guns. We're going to be, and I want them to be trained. I want to put guns inside of young black men as early as possible. Because guess what? It's happening with them saying on the other side. Like Kyle Rittenhouse, you can say what you want to about him, but he got busy with that stick. For real, for real. You can say what you want to about him, but he got busy with it. Don't we respect the shooters? I just got to say it. I mean, like, when it raps on all that, we respect the shooter and, you know what I'm saying, pull up with the stick and all that. Kyle, he was about what he said he was about. And he pulled up. But what I'm saying, I'm not saying in a negative way for young black men, but to take control.

3:10:37 And that's how you don't need the police. But now they're not going to be called. You know, we've been talking for going on two years. I love, and you really started it for me. But, you know, now Jaylock at 100, he's out there saying black men, young black men got to stand up. There's more and more and more saying this out loud. And I'm hearing it. I hear you, Mo. Do you see me? No, I don't. I've never seen you. That's not a fair question. No, I'm just saying, but that's what's scary about them because then you don't need a police state. And then you get the man reinstated in the house. And then that disrupts their power structure, which is based on the basis of white supremacy.

3:11:22 And you're so right. It's a one world government. I mean, that's just it. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's the, I'm calling it the GP3. What's that? I know. It's a new one. I'm working on it. It's the global private public partnership. So it's really, it's going to be policy set by governments and the money is all run by commercial companies and we'll all be 100% controlled. So that's really the ultimate goal. goal. But Australia, it's interesting you brought that up because Australia. And again, Mr. Documentary in the 90s, I did Australia and I did some very interesting things and I really loved it.

3:12:04 And this was before they, everyone, I mean, and I know that's an oversimplification of what happened with guns in Australia, but let's just say people gave up their guns voluntarily. And it was such a cool place. It was a mix of you could feel like Americanism is there, but also British clear, obviously. Some of the traditions of the British, which I like. And then something called Ghazelichait, the cozy kind of Dutch vibe. It all had all these elements. And you'll see British people, American people, and Dutch people living there too. Everyone can feel that. That changed. And their event was a mass shooting.

3:12:46 It was horrible. And of course, we saw the same happen with New Zealand just a few years ago. And now you see what happens when you give it up. And I heard you make this point. I don't remember what show it was on, but I heard you make this point of Australians, and I don't want to cascade Australians in this way, but they started off as a penal colony. Yeah, Dvorak said this actually. Okay, yeah. And I think it was a very astute, and it's a parallel there with the black community. If you don't start off as a full citizen, if your genesis is less than a full citizen,

3:13:26 you give up your rights a lot easier. And this is what was thorn with, you know, how white men carry things. It's like, these are my rights. And they stand on it. Because in America, white men, like these, I've always had all my rights. Australia, they didn't always have their rights. They were a penal colony, which you're saying that they were prisoners and then got free. And I think sadly, the black American experience, which, you know, you know, the history of your family. This has been passed on, but that has been hijacked into a shitty ass narrative, which only makes it about one thing and one thing only, not about how you became citizens, how you got your God-given right.

3:14:12 It's much more about look at the white man fucking with you still. That's why they won't let us know about, that's why I made a purpose to let them know about the heroes of the Vietnam War. And we're going to talk more about the heroes of the World War II black heroes. They don't want to let you know about black men that got busy with a gun, except unless they're doing something to kill another black man. That's the only one. That's the only people that are comfortable with having guns. And you know why? Because black men that kill black other men with guns are nothing but agents of white supremacy. You want to call people that are productive agents of white supremacy or white supremacists or whatever, blacks, white supremacy and black skin. No, it's the rappers. It's the ones that go out here and will willingly kill another black man.

3:14:57 Now, what I want to do is counterbalance that is say, you know, we can have our own police. We can have our own communities. We don't need to call the cops. You know what? When something is going on, we'll come over there and inspect, hey, what's going on over here? Oh, yeah, okay. All right, just making sure, you know what I'm saying, keep it moving. And this is not a foreign idea because there was a show called Rock with Charles S. Dutton. And it was a whole push on television about black people doing citizen patrols and, you know, patrolling all neighborhoods and neighborhood watching those things. Now, then it went to stop snitching. You know what I'm saying? Like that was a put, that was on 60 Minutes, Stop Snitching. That was not a coincidence. That was a rollout of just accept

3:15:39 the deterioration of your neighborhood. So I digress, but I just want to let that known that if you never had your full rights, but the thing was, is people my age, men, my age, we didn't grow up with Jim Crow and drinking out of water fountains, those kind of things. So we kind of think we have our rights. So, you know, so it's, no, I want my rights. You know, my granddad and my dad stood up for this kind of stuff. You know what I'm saying? They went through this bull crap. I want them all. I'm not going to sell it for any rights. And I don't want. That is the original you guys first because my rights are getting taken away too. Right. I don't want discounted rights.

3:16:20 I'd rather have something else than discounted rights. And by the way, if your rights are not right, then my rights aren't right. That's how I see it. We need to start. That's how I see it. Now you see why I said Lady Justice had a serious upskirt because now people are realizing that. Like, oh, now you see. Like, when we used to go in court, like, man, if the system was rigged against us, you're like, no, then the system's fine. Yeah. What's wrong with the system? It's justice. No, now you're seeing, like, they tried to get Kyle. It's interesting. You don't. What you don't really hear a lot of, even on Fox News, what's that? Justice has been served. No, that's not. They're not saying that.

3:17:01 They're saying something totally counter to that: that the justice system is completely corrupt. And I'm like, hey, whatever it takes for it to be identified, so be it. You know, and that's why I don't get upset about the outcome of this trial. Some people want you to virtue signal and be all irate over it. No, I'm not doing that because you know what? At the end of the day, my right to defend myself is still there. We have precedents for what self-defense is. Great. It works for me. But I wanted to get into these last few clips. I know people are like, man, you're reaching with the gun control thing. Well, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I know that it's about that time. We're nearing the end of the show. I'm pretty sure that's not what you're supposed to be thinking. All right.

3:17:46 So now this is an MSNBC clip, and I keep highlighting on MBS NBC because they have been the loudest voice in this whole situation. This is gun rights supporters celebrate Rittenhouse Verdict 1. Rev, you go first. Your reaction to Madison Cawthorne, a member of Congress, what he said in the clip we just showed. I think it's frightening. When I heard the jury's decision and then the reaction to it, I think what people are forgetting, if you start with the wrong premise, you come to the wrong conclusion. The reason Kyle Rittenhouse went to Kenosha was because there was protest against a young black man shot in the back seven times by police, and there was reaction to it.

3:18:32 Some violence, some and mostly a peace right, mostly. That's why he came with an AR-15. He came to confront protesters. He claimed saying he wanted to protect property. That was not his. He was not a member of that community. That's why he came. So, what this verdict does is make people like me that lead protests, that lead marches, very concerned now. Are people now going to come into our protests and kill people or hurt people and claim self-defense? And it has now been anointed by people like Cawthorne and others that are saying he ought to be a congressional intern.

3:19:11 He's a hero when he, in fact, aggressively came after a situation that he was opposed to, which was the protest around the shooting by police of Jacob Blake Jr. I just played that so you can hear the whole narrative laid out in one concise one nugget. It's just that he went down seven shots. He went into kind of like he was the aggressor in the situation. Protecting your property does not make you aggressive. Protecting other people's property does not make you an aggressor.

3:19:49 We need to have the same mentality. We need to know what our rights are and exercise. This has been such an incredible setup by the certainly by executed by the Democratic Party. You know, let's forget about who's really running the whole thing. Right. Wow. I didn't see this. I didn't see it zoomed out that far. And they had this all planned. And now it's not working. None of it's working. So they got to blame Joe. They got to get rid of him. Kamala is no good. Mayor Pete's got to pop in.

3:20:29 Oh, my God. The reason why it's not working is when I look at my account and my money's less than what it was, I can't get with that. And then you want to take the one thing that protects for certain that protects myself away from me. That doesn't work for me. So now you're just pushing, you know, pushing at that, pushing the wrong way. So you saw Al, Reverend Al set it up. So this next guy is going to come home and slam it on through with what the solution is for Al being scared at protests. Okay, Attorney Henderson. When he says follow the law, this is where probably the one time I might agree with Congressman Jordan.

3:21:12 When you read the Wisconsin law, it makes it really difficult to not find or difficult to find Rittenhouse guilty. Isn't the problem the laws, the way they're written, that make us vulnerable? And when I say us, the American people, but certainly black people. Okay, so Jonathan, here's the problem. When we start talking about the laws, it relates to the Rittenhouse case. It's not simply the law on the books. It's the law that was provided to the jury for them to use in deliberation. Right. The law that they had to use during deliberation was actually more forgiving than you would think with regard to reaching the right results in this case. But here's the problem. And it's a structural problem based on the way the case was tried. The prosecutors assumed they could prove that Rittenhouse's conduct was reckless.

3:21:57 And they assumed that this law of self-defense was never going to come up because he's breaking curfew and he's wrongfully carrying the assault rifle. And if those two things are true, he doesn't get the instruction on self-defense, so you don't have to worry about it. You have people who don't understand the law of self-defense or actually how it should have been applied in this scenario. Had it been properly applied, I think you could lead to a different result. And go ahead, Red. But I also think that we need to have federal law. We are upon two or three months from now, the 10th anniversary of Trayvon Martin. We still have not legislated on a federal level about Stand Your Ground, which is now in many more states. Oh, wow. And that's the problem why these people are ineffective.

3:22:41 Why we don't have anything that's concrete on Stand Your Ground. It've been two black men killed in Florida behind Stand Your Ground, and we haven't fixed this problem, which I don't really have an issue with Stand of Ground as long as you judge it the same way for all parties. Of course, that's my thing. You know what I'm saying? Stay your ground because you just never know when you had to grip up, you know what I'm saying? And do something. So I was. That's why, and I think we talked about it, but anyone who owns a firearm needs to get firearm insurance, which usually includes attorney and everything, because it doesn't matter what happens, there's going to be a lawsuit because that's where

3:23:22 we're like we said in the beginning. Hey, man, I was breaking into your house. You shot me. I'm going to sue you. But that's a tax. See, that's a tax on owning guns. And I don't agree. I mean, I agree with that sound advice. But the premise behind it, I think, is just another tax. So now it's, well, it's a gun now? No, no. The solution is to just shoot the lawyers. That's the solution. I'm just kidding, lawyers. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, the lawyers are actually going to get us out of this. You watch. There's enough. So all I'm just saying is this is you want to add another insurance, which is another tax, which is a luxury for some people.

3:24:06 Yeah, I'm with you. It's racial. But then that makes it, it makes it. No, it's kidding. No, because it hits across all color lines to say, well, because that's what they want. Well, you got to have certain insurance to own a gun. You know, it won't be a straight out banding of guns. It would just be so expensive to own one. Of course. Just like in New York, you can own a gun. I mean, if you know the right people and you can get the right paperwork signed. So we see that. Yeah, what I was talking about more is like NRA, these types of groups exist specifically for gun owners. And, you know, it won't break. I agree. It's a tax. I totally agree. I'm just saying to people, please don't forget that step.

3:24:48 That's just the reality of where we're getting being real here. That's the reality of where we live right now. Yes, it's sound practical advice. And I totally agree. But what I'm saying is the premise behind it that you have to have so much protection for your protection. That was true. It'll just wear people down to the point where, like, you know what? It's not even worth it. Not even worth owning a gun. You know, that kind of thing. GBG STL. Give blacks guns, shoot the lawyers. I'm telling you. And you need a Bitcoin. So they brought Rev and Alpha on for this segment. And I'm going to show you how disgusting this is. And this is the last clip.

3:25:29 He didn't do good enough job selling it. So they actually called him back and made him do it over again. A do-over. Nice. I have a few more words. Wait, was this the same day, the same show? Yes. So he was already on his way out. He was in the green room. And then it wasn't the same show, but you know what I'm saying? They called him back. Like, you need to double down on the. And that's why he said I have more to say on it. That's what he's saying. Yeah. Oh, I know exactly how that went. It's like. Hey, Al, Al, better get your ass back in there.

3:26:05 I have a few more words on the Rittenhouse trial that ended and the Arbrick case that is in its final stages. In just a few months, we're going to be facing the 10-year anniversary since the killing of Trayvon Martin. The stand your ground laws became a national anchor case. And we never really dealt with it. We never really legislated on it on a federal level. And now we need to as a movement. as a country, make the Congress and the Senate deal with new gun laws. We just had ministers do a big rally and prayer vigil in Brunswick, Georgia, around the case of Ahmad Aubrey.

3:26:49 Now I'm going back to join the family there this week. And I would be concerned of having a prayer vigil. Would somebody come there saying, I'm coming to defend something? And if they can get in an altercation with somebody on the side, a verbal altercation, and could take out a gun and they all 15 at that and shoot somebody. We're under real threat. So we are, in my opinion, we are mandated to try to make laws. Mandate. You did not do that with standard ground. We must make very clear laws to protect all.

3:27:31 Woo! There it is, everybody. So we're both right. It's a psyop. And the purpose for the psyop is to take our guns away from us. Very unique what you've done. You know, my actual skill is deconstructing news almost as it happens the next day, you know, or within days. The gun legislation was obvious at the surface with things like across state lines, the way you did this today, but also weaving in the two-tier justice system of money, no money. Outstanding. Five-star review. Unreeled. Unyelped.

3:28:15 And you graduate. You're now detective of Law and Order, Special Vision. You know, I had to lean on my Law and Order degree from SBU, but it carried me through the show. And the thing was, I don't want people to be triggered. I don't want people to be, you know what I'm saying, dooming and glooming out. If you have guns and you have access to make money, then you can enjoy America for what it's meant to be. And that's the real control mechanisms of how they really try to destabilize us. And like I said, they start with us. I have to stress that point to people.

3:28:57 They always start with us. It's always going to roll downhill. So we have to point these things out. And inform the 40% and pray for the 30% that don't get it. Mo, thank you very much for this outstanding episode. Everybody, please remember to support us. Go to mofax.com or mofundme.com. And I look forward to the lost tapes, Mo. And it's definitely going to be some great stuff there. But as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. We'll see you next time right here on Mo Facts with Adam Curry. See you, Moe. All right, Steve Let Adam.

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