28: Black Don't Crack

00:00 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Mo Facts with Adam Curry for March 7th, 2020. This is episode number 28. Fresh back from California from the Joe Rogan show. I gave us a little plug there, Moe. I heard, I heard. And I got to thank you, man. You have no idea. You have no idea how much street cred you gave me. Because on this very show, you know, you threw in a little dalsome sound effect on one of your clips. Yoga Flame. Yoga Flame, yeah. And so that was in my head. And then all of a sudden that came out. And I was looking at the YouTube comments on the Rogan interview. And people are like, oh, man.

00:45 Big up to Curry with a Street Frighter 2 reference. All right. So I look cool with the kids, man. I'm indebted. I appreciate it. Gamer Curry. Well, I played that for a whole, I think I told you, I played it for a whole summer with Bill Bellamy. You know Bill Bellamy, the comedian? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was on MTV at the time. And we were at the player. Yeah, we were at the beat. Well, he was really good. And we were at the MTV Beach House. And it was a lot of downtime. We were actually staying at the beach house. And for some reason, he and I just, we would just play Street Fighter all the time. So that's my cred. How are you, my friend? I am doing well.

01:28 Coronavirus didn't get you? Corona Free? Yeah, you're all good. Didn't get you down yet. Okay. So you're doing well. Okay, good. Excited for you being on Rogan and getting the plug and people finally getting you getting the credit that you deserve being the power father. Oh, you're too kind. Too kind. But yes, it was a renewal card is what I told Joe. So thanks, man. Thanks for renewing my credibility. I'll come back in 10 years. I need another one by then. People forget. Who knows who'll be the podfather by then? All right. I suggest we get this show underway and I rim up the wheel of topics. Where it stops, nobody knows. But where it does stop, that's where we go.

02:11 Making it up on the spot. The topic for today's Mo Facts with Adam Curry is cocaine. This big business and this big crime. Oh, are we finally going to look at the music business and their evil ways? Actually, we're going to look at the drug epidemic being the crack era. Nice. The reason why I'm diving into this is we talked about stop and frisk on the last show. We did. And to understand that, we had, I wanted people to understand how we got to that point of needing stop and frisk. So that was brought on by the crack era. Yes.

02:52 So as a backgrounder, I found presented by Snowfall, the TV show on FX. They had a little special call, Here's How the Crack Epidemic Brought a City to Its Knees. My name is Aaron Williams. I'm a journalist from Compton, California. I've been researching the effects of the crack epidemic for over a decade. Crack is the processed version of the party drug cocaine in rock form. I did try it. And from that moment on, I was chasing the initial high. It goes directly to the pleasure center of your brain. There's just no escape from it once you're addicted. It was so profitable to sell crack.

03:38 Everybody lost their minds. $1, $2, $3 more when the young baby mama and adults are going broke, baby $2. Increased violence, gangs, riots. The Crips and the Bloods have swarmed eastward. The use of crack increasing quickly. Fearlessly setting up an open-air drug market. The reaction of mainstream America was, oh my God, we have to fix this immediately. I can't wait to hear your take on this topic, Mo. I know some about it, of course, because of the Iran-Contra and how the drugs came in. So I know one side of the story, but I'm sure there's a lot you're going to expose us to.

04:18 Yes, I wanted to get to the human side of the story and also examine some of the characters that are rarely mentioned in the whole crack era in drug war and drugs epidemic that occurred. So this show Snowfall, it covers like the creation of crack in a fictional type way. So they did a little background on the event itself. So I just guess we'll get into part two of this clip. They worked every day to plot a new and better way to steal our children's lives.

05:01 That was right around the time the dare came out, the egg and the skillet. This is your brain, Archer. Thousands of dollars in cash and firearms. Enough is enough. Trying to fix things without knowing how they got broken in the first place is a great way to break them worse. You had Ronald Reagan getting involved. Retribution must be swift and sure for those who decide to make a career of preying on the innocent. You have the militarized police. I've seen plenty of raids in my lifetime. If you've ever seen the movie Straight Out of Compton where the tank rams in the door, that was right around the corner from my house.

05:43 I remember thinking that's a house. People live there. If you were caught with rock cocaine, they were getting these sentences for 25 years. You've got to have mandatory voice. You've got to show people if you arrest them, we're going to keep them. Are we also going to help Joe Biden get elected with this show for his involvement in this? Goggles, Curry. Goggles. Damn it. Hold on a second. Let me put them on. Okay. I'm focused. I'm back. No stone will be left unturned by the end of this show. That's why I said about the characters that are rarely, we know about Reagan, we know about Bush, we know about Oliver North, but we're going to look at some of the names that you don't hear brought up in both sides of the crack epidemic.

06:31 One being the crime bill, and then the other side being the actual, well, we'll get to that. It's man, it was terrible. I mean, I was born in 1980. So I saw this whole thing unfold right before my eyes. It impacted my family, family members, people in my community. Was it really something that just started like one day to the next? Is that how it felt? Yeah, it really just showed up overnight. And we're going to get into how it showed up because we saw it in the media first and then it started to manifest itself in real life.

07:15 That's kind of how it happened. So let's just get to this final backgrounder: Snowfall 3. People are going in at 20 and coming out at 45. How are we supposed to build a community that way? You had this proxy war going on. A Senate investigative panel found that there were people associated with the CIA who were involved with drug trafficking. One of the motives was to raise money for the Contras in Nicaragua. Tonight, I can report to you that we've made much progress. It's almost hard to comprehend what might have been if not for this crack scourge that raced through Los Angeles and other major cities.

08:02 Yeah. So what I want to do now is we have to go back. Before crack, there was cocaine, powder cocaine, and that was seen as a party drug. I mean, you probably know better than I do because you were in the scene at the time. Yeah, although interestingly, in seven and a half years at MTV, never was offered, never saw it around the studios, et cetera, of course. Very low, none of that a lot at MTV itself, but that era. Oh, yeah. And it was. Yes. Yes, indeed. And just for reference, what was those seven years, that seven-year timeframe?

08:45 8086 is when I started. So 86 to 93, 70, 93, 94. So that was kind of right smack in the middle of it, I'd say. So that was kind of the end of the powder cocaine era and the beginning of the crack era. Yeah. So I wonder if that had something to do with you didn't actually see it because cocaine itself was cocaine, powder cocaine was the social drug, was the party drug. Yes. Whereas crack was more of a hardcore addiction. Well, when YoM TV raps started, and that was, that had to be around 90. I think maybe mid 80s, actually.

09:29 Wasn't, yeah, well, 88, maybe, 89. It was later than you think. Most people think it was much earlier, but YoM TV raps, I think, was okay, late 80s. You know, actually, I would say there was a lot of heroin that, especially the hair bands. Those guys were all into black rock and all kinds of crazy, crazy stuff. Um, but most of the hip-hop guys who came by, no, I don't know. Maybe they were just uh good at hiding it. I hate to disappoint, but it's not like I saw people smoke. Well, the only thing we all knew is Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown were smoking crack.

10:08 We knew that, right? And I don't even think Whitney Houston was smoking crack, and that's why she was like crack is whack. I think there's something called uh wooz, wooz, and yeah, that's where you put powder cocaine on weed. It's kind of like that. Okay, yes, all right. I think that's why she was uh being the semantics of the word, like, oh, no, I don't smoke crack, right? Right. I mean, because that's the thing. It's also crack was like a class thing. Yeah, it was for cocaine uptown, and

10:51 crack was like the poverty-stricken version of cocaine. Got it. So, I just want to get into the myths and realities of cocaine. Cocaine comes from the leaves of the coca plant found in the northern part of South America for over 1,000 years. Indians have chewed the leaves, believing them to be a gift from the gods to satisfy the hungry, strengthen the weak, and make the sad forget their sorrows. Today, according to the latest statistics from the National Survey on Drug Abuse, over 22 million Americans have used or are using cocaine.

11:30 Yeah, all right. I found this clip to be very important, and maybe we want to just earmark it because they originally thought the coca leaf was a gift from the gods for the hungry and the poor, and you know, people that was down-ridden with sorrow, right? Because it would make you feel good. So, this is the ideal drug for poverty-stricken poor people, especially quote-unquote, the black community. Yeah, yeah. So, wait a minute. So, you're going to tell me that the U.S. government did a study. Hey, I got a great idea. These poor fuckers over here, let's give them some crack. Well,

12:18 I don't think it was that formal, but I think that the way the difference between how it interacted, I think there's something there. But let's get into MIFS too. There are numerous methods for taking cocaine. Most popular, of course, is snorting or taking it in through the nose, but it can be swallowed, it can be mixed with alcohol, it can be injected, it can be smoked, it can be applied to any mutual surface. You would be stunned who does cocaine. Everybody does cocaine. It's headlines every day, I guess, in the newspaper I read. They talk about it constantly. People are refused to look constantly. You know, John Valucci died of it, Richard Pryor catches on fire with it.

13:01 You know, I mean, it's just a nationwide drug in the past. You might see somebody at a party with a drink in their hand, and now in feature films, you see people with coke spoons in their nose. It's obviously more intense because of the media making it more fashionable, especially when you have a celebrity or sports figures involved. Oh, yeah. You know, there was another symbol: the silver razor blade necklace. That was another one. Oh, yeah. That was real big back in the day. And the long pinky finger. Just thinking about it makes me all disgusted. Oh, that dirty ass coke nail.

13:42 But that was real, though, because I remember as a kid, if you saw, that was kind of like a telltale sign that somebody was on drugs, like they grew their nails out. Right. So, as the clip said, and this clip, this clip was from a special report from 1983. And if you notice, one of the methods of using cocaine was not mentioned was crack. Right. Because crack came later, like the mid-1980s, around 85, 86, maybe a little earlier than that. But as they said, the movies, the movies were pushing the use of cocaine. So we're going to look at the movies as a propaganda vehicle.

14:26 But as you always know, we had to go back to some throwback clips. So we had Mr. Charles Wood, aka the professor, and he gave us the real reasons behind black spoitation. One of the other things I failed to mention was growing up. Not only did I want to be a white man, I also wanted to make love to Virginia Mayo, Rhonda Fleming. These people. These names you have to look up, but brainwashed you. Yes, brother. Satan. Now I'm looking at Pam Greer, Black Chocolate, Gloria Hendry. Now we're talking. This is something for us.

15:09 Okay. So if movies were powerful enough to make him want to be white, if you put these black superheroes, I mean, that's how they were kind of shown as your super flies at Shaft. Well, Shaft was a positive image, but the Mac, Superfly, and all these other Black Sploitation characters, they would shape the mind of the viewer, especially the young black viewer, because those were seen as, in a weird way, heroes. Interesting. So why? Why were they in it? Why were they heroes? Because they had it made. You had the money. You had the women.

15:52 You had the flashy lifestyle, the flashy car. It's a sense of entrepreneurial ship in a weird way. Because you're independent from the man, the man. So you mean being involved in drugs, but dealing drugs? Yes, dealing drugs. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, of course. Oh, all right. Bing, I just made the connection. Okay. Right. So then you see all these cool, cool cats. And it's their, yes, they're entrepreneurs. Of course, they're entrepreneurs. And look, and they're making out like bandits. And that's the example. And that was, of course, put together by White Hollywood. Yes. So you have to think about it in this way.

16:38 If you put these images in front of, like I said before, they were superheroes. And it was seen as a kind of a victimless crime because the addict wasn't shown in the film. It was like people just having fun and partying. And you were the person supplying this quote-unquote party drug. But let's get into the second trip, second clip by Mr. Charlwood. These films, they help quell those riots. Because remember, we had the Colonel Commission studying why we had all these riots. These films helped to calm that down. I called it rioting in the movie theaters because all of our anger

17:22 and our angst, we were able to vent in seeing people who look like us kick the white man's behind. And what was the subtitle of Black Exploitation? Get Whitey. For every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays. He had a plan to stick it to the man. The man. See, we were beating the man. And so I call it rioting in the movie theater because this was rioting without destroying anything. It was a catharsis for us. Is this the genesis of black audiences in movie theaters?

18:08 You can say that. Because when you look at the time, early 1970s, that's when really segregation had really been officially put to an end. Then you had content, movie, movies being made targeted towards a black audience. So yes, you could say that. But if you listen to the clip and what they were playing in the background, it was super fly. Superfly, yeah, I heard it. So for shaft and being the positive and being the cop and cleaning up the streets, you had Superfly, which was the drug dealer. And I want to say, really, the first black drug dealer you saw on film

18:52 being the head of his own operation. This dude is bad. He ain't just fly. He's super fly. Yeah. Super fly. When it comes to women, they come to him. But it's still not enough. He wants a big score. A million in cash. Yeah. The big one. This is a chance, and I want to take it. Now. Before I have to kill somebody. Before somebody ices me. What kind of money are we talking about?

19:37 I want his art working. But now that I took all this chance for nothing, then I go back to pee and nothing. Bring some jive job for Chump Change day after day. Look, if that's all I'm supposed to do, then they gonna have to kill me because that ain't enough. Can a super fly Harlem dude leave the system? He's got a plan.

20:29 Just stick it to the man. He's super hood. Super high. Super dude. Super fly. All right. Holy fuck. In retrospect, in retrospect of what I would consider politically correct nonsense today. Holy crap. This was this is an outrage. This is saying it right there. That's right, man. It's going to be great. Deal the drugs. Stick it to the man. Steal the drugs. Stick it to the man. Stick it to the man. Jeez. So Superfly was made in 1972. Yeah. It was directed by Gordon Parks Jr. Are you familiar with Gordon Parks Jr.?

21:12 Not offhand. He also directed Shaft. Oh, he did both sides of the equation. Interesting. So he was Mr. Gordon Parks. He was a groundbreaking American photographer, musician, poet, novelist, journalist, activist, and film director. He was best remembered for his photo essays in Life magazine and is director of the 1971 film Shaft. In 1942, he had an opportunity to work for the Farm Security Administration brought the photographer to the national capital. So he worked for the government. He was basically a politician. A little more than that.

21:58 He's been accused as being a, and this is a quote from a website, Block Talk Radio. Gordon Parks was nothing more than a forest, a CIA operative who lived among Negro leaders and their followers only to report to the CIA. Gordon Parks was nothing more than an Uncle Tom. There's no secret. Life magazine let the cat out the bag, just like the white people to do this. Why the white devil worked? I'm reading a quote quote here. It says, why the white devil worked to clip his wings before they declared him a fallen angel. He is affirmed to have played a key role in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,

22:38 Minister Malcolm X, along with Jesse Jackson. We talked about Jesse Jackson in the previous show. Sure. Billy Cowles and other CIA operatives. Wow. Okay. This history is, you know, if you've even looked at Wikipedia, there's like nothing there. No, there's no, they're there, but I want to bring some attention to something that you may have seen. If you've seen the movie American Gangster, which is another movie that talked about the drug trade and how it was one soul black man supplying all of America with heroin. Well, it's also based on a true story. And it's Denzel, right? He plays that.

23:20 Yeah. That's based on a true story. It was based on a true story, but they embellished a lot there. But I want to point out to you, if you notice, his confidant with the big mustache that he's always talking about, that's Gordon Parks. Oh, wow. Okay. So to think that one man was, I don't want to get off an American gangster tangent, but just to think that one man was bringing that much heroin in on military planes. Oh, yeah. All by himself with the government not being involved. Oh, please. Exactly. Yeah, okay. We know that part is not true, but okay.

24:01 All right. So the plot of Superfly was basically a suave, top-run New York City drug dealer. He decides he wanted to get out the game, and this film was so impactful that young people walking around with bags of flour and baby powder. Just to look cool. Just to emulate what they saw in the film. Wow. So let's get into, this is from Fandor. It's a YouTube channel. Superfly and the 1970s Black Exploitation Cinema. Mr. Ron O'Neill. The first young blood priest.

24:44 The original Superfly. Released in 1972, Superfly, directed by Gordon Parks Jr. and starring O'Neill as the iconic drug dealer, is one of the most iconic titles to come out of the Black Splitation movement. Black Splitation was a genre of cinema that began in the early 70s with Ozzie Davis's Cotton Comes to Harlem, Mario Van People's Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song, and Gordon Parks Sr.'s shaft. These films were not exactly well made. However, they were hugely popular in the African-American community because this was the first time the audience got to see films directed by and starring people who look like them.

25:25 The stars of Black Exploitation films were the heroes of their stories and not just victims or sidekicks to white characters. But you have been the case since the beginning of cinema. Mario Van Peebles, he was he goes back that far? His father. Oh, I was going to say, oh, senior. I was like, wait a minute. Oh, see, I, and again, I bet he's going to come into the picture eventually. I've met him. Junior is going to come into the picture eventually. Okay. So we had, like, like the gentleman from Fandor said, this is the first time where we had stars. Yeah. The stars in the movie being black. So that was very

26:08 inviting. Of course. To say, oh man, he's, you know, he's whooping ass and sticking it to the man, you know, and you didn't realize the drug part of it. Now, so you went from is that exactly how you'd say it? Hey, man, he's whooping his ass and sticking it to the man. Is that how you? That's the separate. That's the 70s. I want to hear 70s Mo say it. That's what I wanted. So that goes from 1972. Now we fast forward to 1983 when another drug narco film came out. Another class. Yeah, the classic. Okay. So what do you call yourself? Como Sayama. Antonio Montana. And you?

26:51 What you call yourself? Where'd you learn to speak the English, Tony? In school. And my father, he was from the United States. John LaUy. He was a Yankee. He used to take me a lot to the movies. I learned. I watched the guys like Hoffy Bogart. They scammed me. That teach me to talk. Let us guys. I always know one day I'm coming here. United States. 1980. Miami. They called it Little Havana, where the American dream had a price tag.

27:36 And only one man in a million was hungry enough to pay. This country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the woman. Scarface. For one brief moment, the world was his. Say hello to my little friend. Yeah, okay. This film is so iconic. Yes. And powerful.

28:17 Almost every rapper from the 90s either had a Scarface motif, video, skit on their album. Reference. Yeah, reference in the reference. A lot of them had their names: Tony Montana. Releasing it now, French Montana. French Montana. That guy, I find him such a tool. I'm just showing him. Even today, even one of the biggest drug cartel black drug cartels there was was Black Mafia Family. They even had billboards put up in cities saying the world is ours.

28:59 So this is how iconic this film was. And it shaped so much of the reality in these poor communities. Right. Although this was more Hispanic-related. It was Hispanic-related, but the black community latched on to it because it's the tale of a, you know, coming up from nothing, something. Coming up. That's the term. By the way, that is the term that's still used today. Coming up. So you see, now you went from superfluous. Superfly to Scarface, and one of the iconic scenes from Scarface was the bad guy.

29:41 You are a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you want to be. You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers and say that's the bad guy. So, what I make you good. You're not good. You just know how to hide

30:27 how to lie. Me, I don't have that car. Me, I always tell the truth, even when I lie. So, say goodnight to the bad guy. Come on. The last time you're going to see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. I was just looking at it, and I didn't know this, but this film was actually a remake. The film was made in 1932.

31:12 I didn't know that either. Yeah, it was now, and it was produced by Howard Hughes, the eccentric millionaire. Huh. Interesting. I'm glad you said that because something almost slipped my mind. Because I think in 2017, they tried to make a remake of Superfly. Oh, interesting. To reintroduce the programming. When you see films like this, and it's a whole, I could do a whole show on drug-inspired or gang-inspired films that shaped the mind of the quote-unquote black community or black ghetto.

31:52 Because I don't want this to be a representation of the black community per se, but a segment of the black community that latched on to this idea. And it's no different than the Kennedys, no alcohol. It's no different than the Delano Roosevelt, and they made their money off of heroin. This is American apple pie. It's what we do. It's what we do. But if you had to be legitimized, and another film that I just a small reference to, you saw this with the Godfather 3. It's finally when he made it all the way to the top, he just realized the whole power structure

32:35 profited off of the illicit vice trade, whatever it is, gambling, prostitution, drugs, and alcohol during prohibition. So here we are. So he went from 1983. You have the bad guy, which the bad guy has really seen is the good guy. The good guy, sure. Because in that speech, Scarface is telling the truth because he said, look at all you people. You're making money off of the drug trade because Miami Beachfront was built mostly off of drug money. And it's a funny scene in the Scarface film because they're rolling in wheelbarrows full of cash into the bank and nobody's asking any questions.

33:23 Well, back in the day, it was easier. It was easy to just roll up with cash. You could do that. But yeah, exactly. Everyone was in on it. Everyone was good with it. I have a question for you because I heard you bring this up before. But call me. It's just not back in the day. Would you like to share people with Comey and how that's relevant to him? Yes, the bank, HSBC, which is the Hong Kong Singapore Bank of Hong Kong, Singapore, Brazil, China, I guess it is. They in 2002 through 2000.

34:03 Oh my gosh, I don't even know the exact dates. But in our lifetime, we're literally taking big piles of cash on the Mexican side where they had bank offices. And that would be the drug money. They'd throw the big bags of money into the deposit. And then it would go through their system. It would be ingested. Then it would come out the other side, you know, completely laundered and good to go. And they got busted for it. HSB. HSBC got busted for it. No one went to jail, surprise, surprise, but on the board of directors at the time, who was there to help fix the problem was Mr. James Comey, the FBI, former FBI director. Well, you probably know about him.

34:47 And just to add to that, one of those guys that I'm sure they were laundering money for was El Chapo. That was their main guy. Let's see, the settlement. Hold on a second. I have an article here somewhere. I think, well, here's the headline. This is a headline from Matt Taibbi. He's a guy who knows that he's great, Rolling Stone Magazine. Matt Taibbi writes fantastic. I can't believe he's still alive, actually. It says, Outrageous HSBC settlement proves the drug war is a joke. If you're suspected of drug involvement, America takes your house. HSBC admits to laundering cartel billions, loses five weeks' income, and execs have to partially defer bonuses.

35:33 I mean, let me tell you, it doesn't matter what skin color you have, my friend, that pissed everybody off. That was not okay. And it's still not okay. And for a little reference, people want to say, oh, El Chapo is the bad guy, but in his home community, a hero, superhero. He's seen his same thing with Pablo Escobar. He was a hero. So it's not exclusive to the black community to say the bad guy is the good guy. At all, no. And one of those bad guys that's most famous, it's a fictional character, is Nino Brown and New Jack City. Living, living,

36:16 living, just to know Wesley Snipes. We were all in the city. Nice team. Alan Payne. Chris Rock. Mario Van Peebles. Christopher Williams. Vanessa Williams. Tracy Camilla Johns. And Judd Nelson. This is Detective Nick Peretti, big crazy jawhead, motorcycle freak, reject cop, just like you, Scotty. Money, money. On the streets, there's a fine line between wrong and right. Good and bad. Between those who enforce the law.

37:00 It is a war out there. And those who break it. Gone on the days of selling on the street corners, dark alleyways in the back rooms of some bummy ass bar. We ain't with that no more. In a city where survival depends on friends, it's always business. Never personal. On family. We got to look out for one of them. On trust. Do things, do things, on loyalty. Bad things. On power. Am I my brother's keeper? Am I my brother's keeper? Yes, I am. A family out to run a city are up against cops who know its streets. This ain't business. This is personal.

37:51 This is big business. This is the American way. City. Oh, yeah. Wow, that brings back some memories because this was prime MTV time. Here's a little side story for you. And this was, oh, I'm trying to think. This must have been right around. See, when did New Jack City come out? 91, I guess, right? 91. So it must have been 88, 89. There was a party, and I think it was a party for Raquel Welch for some reason.

38:31 And I was like, oh, shit, I'll go say hi to her, like Raquel Welch. I mean, all right. I grew up with her. And there were a couple of guys outside. And as I came out of the event, they're like, hey, Adam, Adam, Adam. And they'd start harmonizing together. And like, oh, yeah, here's our CD, man. You know, check us out. Color Me Bad. They were on the street. And three years later, that was them in this track, right? That was them harmonizing. I think that's, isn't that Color Me Bad? Yeah, that was these guys around like a fire can harmonizing. But Color Me Bad had the lead single or one of the lead singles from the soundtrack. Yeah, I want to sex you up. I want to sex you up. Yep. Yes. I remember it. Oops, sorry.

39:15 So this is one of the first films where music, crack, and the superhero. When I left this movie, I went to see it with my older brother. I was probably 12, 11, 12 years old at the time, maybe 10, 11 at the time. I didn't know who was the good guy, the bad guy. Well, Wesley Snipes was just, I mean, he was badass regardless in this movie. I mean, he was just, people just loved him. Right. He played the role so well. And it was mystifying that, wow, like a successful black businessman, but you didn't see it. Well, you saw the other side of it, but it left you in this weird place.

40:00 Even for me, I'm coming from a two-parent household. One parent being an educator, the other being a social worker. So I understand. I'm not from the place they were portraying, but it was something that was you celebrated, Nino Brown. I understand. Yeah, totally. I mean, here's the thing: we were seeing the same thing. We were rooting for the same guys. We just didn't have the same social background. So I think it meant something different. And it shaped the music that was made after that time. Everything became the artists.

40:41 We went from self-destruction to now the rappers become, and we're going to do another show about the music. But the rappers became almost prototypes or copycats of the heroes. Yes, of course. Of course. That's exactly what it was. And in this movie, New Jack City, Nino Brown lays out the basic plan how to create a crack enterprise. Times like these, people want to get high. Real high and real fast. And this is going to do it. And make us rich. I mean, what?

41:23 People going crazy over this? I mean, really, it looked like cracked off pieces of soap. The Colombians and the Dominicans have shown us the way. And the shit is large. But we're going to do it differently. Going on the days of selling on the street corners. You change the product. You change the marketing strategy. I see in the future, y'all. And its name is the cart. Hold up, hold up, Nino. The car to apartments, man, join us. Big, what's up? Yo, baby, we're talking about combinating consolidate. That's what up. You're not thinking of taking over the car. Yeah, we're taking over the car. We're going to bum rush the whole damn thing. Now, just imagine. If the tenants cooperate, oh, it's lovely.

42:08 I mean, they become loyal customers. They don't? Fuck it. It's like Beirut. They become living hostages. We're going to set up a lab here to make the product. Kareem, you can hook up the computer system. Watch out for the workers, money, product. The Dutter Man, Keisha, we need a security force. Ward off the rival crews to screen out the customers. We also need lookouts here, here, here, and here. Let us have five volume. One place to make the product, one place to collect our money. We will own this fucking city. It's so interesting. This is, I mean, you can put this same format right into

42:54 Eddie Murphy, Trading Places. You can put it into, well, even Dolomite. This basic formula of, okay, I'm going to go out and I'm going to, maybe not drug-related, but it's always like, I'm the entrepreneur and bing, all, you know, here's Wesley Snipes. He's like, I'm going to hook up the computer over here and all this stuff going on. It's always that kind of format. It's a system. It's system, you know, it's systemic. Yeah. This is not like he just had an idea, like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to start a crack enterprise. You know, no, this, this, and you asked me a question. You said, did it just show up overnight?

43:35 Yeah. So I saw this movie, and one of the iconic symbols of the crack era is the crack valve. You know, the clear, small little cylinder thing, and it had the different color tops to it. Yeah, that was the packaging. Right. So I saw this in this movie. And I remember going to see my grandmother. She lived, she was, she lived in low-income apartments because her and my grandfather were low-income. And I remember right after this movie, walking around her apartment complex and seeing these on the ground. Oh. So your question was: when did it start to show up? It was like, right. And in the bigger cities, I'm from North Carolina.

44:18 And my grandma lived in rural North Carolina. North Carolina. So it took time for it to make it to those small small towns. But in my mind, that was like, okay, because we live in a lower middle, well, middle class, lower middle class, working class community. So you didn't really see it there. Right. But when I visit my grandmother, I remember walking, it's vivid to this day. And I was like, oh, that's what I saw in the New Jack City movie, being 10, 11 years old. And that's when it started to show up. And then you heard people, family members, yeah, they're on that rock.

44:57 That's what they used to call it, that rock. The names were called rock stars. And the term, it was like a whole terminology came with it. When they would get high and pace, they were called ghostbusting. And it just consumed. It was totally made to be cool and turned into popular culture. Yes. But it was still at that time. And I think that's why I was hidden when you said you went to these parties. Smoking crack was a taboo. Even though people were doing it and people would do cocaine out in the open.

45:38 But the crack was something that was kept secret because it was low class and get called a crackhead. It's really interesting. I mean, you saw when you think about it, of course, I've never really been a, I'm a pothead, but not a druggie. And it's really, there's, you know, there's, to me personally, snorting something up your nose is pretty damn disgusting. No worse than smoking something out of a glass pipe, but yet it had that stigma. Yeah, because you hear nobody say, oh, they're a coke. I mean, when you hear coathead and you hear crackhead, when you compare those two things, one is crackheads, toothless, broke, dirty.

46:19 Right. Right. Basically homeless in a way, scratching, itching. Whereas coke, it was like, oh, it's like a high fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's the Benz? Yeah, exactly. Right. And even in the cynic scene, it was the difference because one was the drug of choice and crack was made from, yeah, it was made to target poor people because it's small doses. It's small costs. Cheap. And it just kept them high all the time, where cocaine was a more expensive and flavor. So just flashing through my brain, we don't have to talk about it now, but in California today, Los Angeles, you know, we have a heroin epidemic and meth, et cetera.

47:04 And I'm just wondering, you know, where are the parallels? We don't have to go into it. I'm just thinking about that. That's too big to cover in this, but there is the way it's being handled is totally different. And we're going to see in this, and just for people that know what's going on, just compare it in your mind as you're listening along how things are handled now as they were handled back then. Right on. So we're going back to another throwback clip, and this is from a 1986 special report. Then this was the broken families lead to the streets. You won't find in these neighborhoods the prime time family of Bill Cosby.

47:42 There are successful, strong black families in America, families that affirm parental authority and the values of discipline, work, and achievement. But not many live around here. Still, not every girl in the inner city ends up a teenage mother. Not every young man goes into crime. There are people who have stayed here to fight for these kids. They're outnumbered by the con artists and pushers. It's not an even match, but they stand for morality and authority and give some of these kids a bracing dose of unsentimental love. When their own fathers are missing, kids need someone else to stand in to practice damage control as the street take over.

48:25 For these kids, that someone is Detective Shaheed Jackson of the Newark police. He came by his street smarts, the hard way. Well, I came up out of the streets, so I know how to get around a lot of that stuff. And I guess the older you get, the more you learn. I was fortunate enough coming up that I never got caught. And I grew out of the streets, but yet I still have some in the street. There was a time when he wasn't sure he would make it off those streets. He was an unmarried father at 18, and he had his share of troubles, but he was raised by two parents. His father was a Baptist minister, and they pushed him to make something of himself. On a Sunday morning on my block, you would see each family almost coming out going to church.

49:08 You know, you don't see that anymore. The family unity. Yeah, of course. Broke down. down. So I played this throwback clip to show you that the community was primed for this epidemic. You had the no man in the house had taken hold for like two, three generations at this time. People were idle. People were locked into projects. Disillusions. Disillusioned. So they're looking for this escape. That's what basically drugs is, an escape. And I always said this: the super rich and the super poor, there's a commonality there because when you get super, when you see these

49:52 kids come from super rich families, they don't have anything to worry about. They turn to drugs. They turn to drugs, exactly. Being one, Mr. Joe Biden's son. I mean, there are many examples of this. But I'm just saying that he's not even people that try to stop this epidemic or supposedly try to stop this epidemic couldn't escape it. And if you have everything or you have nothing, you're looking for something more out of life. They're in the weird, really in the same place. But I played this throwback clip, like I said before, just to show you the environment that was ready for this drug to come in and take hold.

50:33 Yeah, the timing was perfect. Almost like it was planned, but who knows? Let's get into 86.2. What have you learned about these kids? That they need somebody to love them. You know, they identify with us because, excuse the expression, we don't take any crap. You know, you come in here, you got to be disciplined, you got to, you know, follow the rules and regulations. Because when they go out here and deal with life, they're going to have to follow rules and regulations of life. Self-control and self-esteem. Far more important than a good left hook. That's his message to kids like Bernard Wardwick. He's been coaching Bernard for the past four years. It's like a big brother father in between me and Bernard.

51:17 There's been times when he's gotten me mad and I've spanked him. You know, and his mother knows I'll spank him. He knows I'll spank him. And sometimes that's what a kid needs to know. Freedom is a lot of time destruction. The more freedom a man has, a lot of times it'll just self-destruct. So I try to, you know, keep him in a little cage, keep him in my arms. Somebody has to say no. Yeah, somebody has to say no, you cannot do this. A lot of these kids grew up with nobody saying no. You think it's important for them to have men around them? Yeah, I think, you know, if you have one parent family and there's some mother, she cannot teach all of the things that a man can teach a son.

51:58 There's no way. So where do they learn the routine techniques of just daily work and living? They don't. Unless they get it from their parents to get it from the streets. Is there a common entity amongst the three movies we've looked at right now? Is there a common ownership, a common production? Is there something that is common amongst those three to trace it back to some form of clear planning? I haven't found one smoking gun, but I just think the industry as a whole, because it's weird. The weird thing is you have the media, the news,

52:39 telling this story of how destructive this drug is or these drugs are. But at the same time, you have the Hollywood branch of media glorifying drugs. And it's like they're never on the same page. Like I said, it's almost like it was a system-wide plan to victimize a group of people. I mean, if you want to cut that group of people to be the poor, or you want to say it's the

53:18 low-income black community. But when they set these things up, it never stays confined to the communities targeted at. Right. But has anyone ever taken Vampee Bulls or, well, Wesley Snipes got all kinds of problems. He had all kinds of shit going down. But I mean, there's a lot of people who were involved. Chris Rock, you know, a lot of people were involved. They've been taken to task over their participation in this. Not at all. Not even the musicians, not the actors, nobody. It's just like, I was trying to work. You know, I was just trying to. And here's the common thing. Like, it's better to rap about or to act about than to actually do it.

54:01 That's, that's the. Okay. That's what the sanitizer to like, oh, yeah, I mean, I could be out here actually selling crack. crack instead of portraying it. It's so amazing that, you know, you had a very powerful force speaking against this at this time. That was Bill Cosby. Yes. And it's like, well, and he, and I think there was a lot of agreement, and he had really smart things, very, very smart things he said. And of course, it became somewhat condescending later on. But in the meantime, we know what he was up to. It's just everyone's shit. I have no faith in anyone anymore.

54:44 But what they realize is the bad guy being the good guy is way more profitable than putting good guys on the screen. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So now we have the propaganda. That portion that we just came out of was the propaganda setting up for the crack era. It was the priming of the community to drop this, if you want to call it the crack bomb on the community. Because as we know, it was done by very high up people. But let's get into the 1986 to 1989 special report, Crack Era One.

55:25 CBS News takes you on the streets to the war zone for an unusual two hours of hands-on horror. Our focus is on crack, a kind of cocaine, a powerful mind-bender and increasingly popular and deadly. We call our broadcast 48 Hours on Crack Street. All right, but I mean, you can get it. I can get the good crap. You just saw the man try to sell me crack right out in the middle of the street. The camera wasn't even hidden during that sequence. Had to have seen the camera. It was right here. And there just doesn't appear to be any fear of consequence. It's five o'clock on Wall Street on a Friday afternoon.

56:08 The business day is ended. The stock exchange is closed. People are going home. They're going away for the weekend. But business on the street hasn't ended. It's just beginning. People, man, who do you think? The stockbrokers, the lawyers, the people with the money. I love cocaine. And I couldn't wait to get out of college and start working and making money because I wanted to live that lifestyle. So this illustrates that it wasn't only black people buying it. It was people on Wall Street, as the gentleman said. It was the stockbrokers, the lawyers, the people with the money.

56:50 Whenever they create these traps, their own children, loved ones fall into these traps. And when I say that, it even goes for the affluent black people. Because, like I said, I grew up in a working-class, middle-class neighborhood. And you start to hear whispers. Hey, did you hear so-and-so was on crack? Did you hear so-and-so teachers? I saw teachers on crack. I've seen teachers buy crack from students. Man. In a good school. I mean, I went to a relatively good school.

57:35 It was just like wildfire. So, how did it not grab you, Mo? Come, my dad would kill me one. He wouldn't be talking. Well, you had a man. Well, yeah, you just, you said it. You had a man about the house. There you go. He didn't play that. And it was, well, let's get into crack era facts. Among the facts you should know, crack is believed to be the most addictive drug known. Estimate. 25 million Americans will have tried some form of cocaine by their mid-20s. One-third of all college students will have tried it before they graduate. 5,000 more Americans are trying cocaine each day.

58:20 So to answer your question, the other narrative about crack was one time and you're a crackhead. Right, right, right, right, right. And you could fly in and out. It was no problems. No problem. So I got my dad wanting to kill me on one hand, and then you try it once. I mean, drugs in itself was not glorified. I mean, weed. I mean, but weed was never seen as a drug either by certain groups of people. No. Older people, yeah. I mean, everything was a drug. But there was a difference there between weed and crack. And the narrative was like, one try, you're a crackhead. And so that kind of kept me from it.

59:03 Is that actually true? I mean, I've always always believed that that was true, that you smoke crack once and you're hooked. I mean, I, if you ask me without the show, so yeah, then you're hooked for it, and it's real hard to get off it. I don't know if that's true. I don't even think it's been proven. Now, I mean, to say if it's true or untrue, but it hasn't been proven. But let's get into. So we had these propaganda started. The first wing of the propaganda was the movies. The next wing of the propaganda, once the crack was introduced to the community, was the crime stories in the news. So let's get into crime three. A boy is in critical condition in a New York City hospital this morning with burns over half his body after a drug-related attack.

59:46 Police say David OPONT was on his way to school in Brooklyn when he was dragged off by another boy. He was beaten, bound, and set on fire after he refused to smoke crack. A 13-year-old boy has been arrested and charged with attempted murder. Today is David's 12th birthday. Yeah, this is what the media does. They do it so well. Similar to how I want to bring something that's current in the news, the coronavirus. There's very little facts. There's very little information, but be afraid. They're trying to push a narrative. Yeah, they'll push. They'll push. That's right. We're all going to die. You know, South by Southwest just got canceled.

1:00:26 Yes. It's a $350 million week for the city of Boston. It's gone. Very huge. So these crime stories started to pop up. Like you said, this 13-year-old kid killed and burned his other kid because he wouldn't smoke crack. And then we have Crimes 4.1. Police in Kansas City, Missouri are searching this morning for a woman who swapped her infant son for $20 worth of crack cocaine. I remember these stories living in New York and watching the news. These stories were all over the place. The sell your kid for some crack. This is good. A four-month-old boy was turned over to social workers after being left in a bar while his mother smoked crack outside.

1:01:10 Crack dealer admits that the baby was part of the transaction. She didn't want it. She didn't want it. I don't care about that. It's just the idea that the baby would have been, you know, somewhere instead of in her hands. Police say they've identified the baby's mother, but have not been able to find her. Oh, man. Jeez. So now we have these crack really tearing families apart. Well, we had families already torn apart because the man was taken out of the house. Now we have crack destroying the mother. And one of the famous Tupac lines was:

1:01:49 even though, Mama, you was a crack fiend, you always was a black queen, mama. And I'm quoting that very loosely, but you're left with your mother in the house. She's depressed. She's overworked, overwhelmed by, you know, saying trying to do a two-person job of parenting children. And you need this escape. And the perfect escapes was crack. Cheap, available, and quick. And very little understood. I give a pass to the people in the 80s that first started smoking crack. The reason why I say that is you never seen anything like this before. I mean, you had heroin, but heroin was something different because it was a needle and it was, you know, more, it was like a junkie drug.

1:02:36 It had, well, I was talking with Joe Rogan about this. It had very bad PR. It was not like, oh, look at all these people dying. And yeah, junkie drug. Exactly. It did not have a great, did not have great PR. And a lot of times people first started getting introduced to crack by mixing it with weed. That's why I said the whole Whitney Houston thing. That was a status thing that she was saying. Yeah. My crack is whack. It was like, I don't do crack. A lot of people, and I'm speaking from personal experience of people I personally know. They got introduced not by smoking the rock, but it was put in weed first and they smoke it that way. And then the addiction would progress to flat out smoking

1:03:19 crack pipes. Which I'm trying to figure out how crack pipes were manufactured in the first, like, where's this factory making crack pipes at? Well, shut that down, first of all. Oh, but I mean, I digress on that. I'll bet you dimes to dollars it was coming from China. Just saying. So now this is the Hegelian dialectic working its way. You had pressure from above and pressure from below. One was the propaganda of the movie and the movie and the film industry saying how cool it is and making the drug dealers heroes.

1:03:57 And now the pressure from above. above is coming down with the media, the news media, telling how terrible crack is and how it's basically turning neighborhoods into war zones. So, so this is this is by plan, I believe. This is this is my hypothesis. Uh, let's get you want to say something. No, I'm just shaking my head. Yeah. So, let's get into crime 4.2. A woman who allegedly smoked crack cocaine just hours before giving birth has been charged with giving the drug to her unborn child. Kimberly Hardy of Muskegon, Michigan, faces charges of second-degree child abuse and delivering cocaine.

1:04:38 She could be sentenced to 24 years in prison. Ten similar cases have gone to trial in the United States this year. Only one ended with a conviction. So, the outrageous building, you have kids being killed. Now, you have the famous crack baby. Yes. Crack babies is a real thing, and it's something that's very little talked about because if you think about it, where did they go? Where did the crack babies go? They just kind of blended into society. Is this where this crime is? I'm asking out, I'm asking a rhetorical question because I don't have an answer for it. Well, I think that child protective services has a big role in this and not a positive one.

1:05:24 Do you have Ritland because these kids were born addicted to drugs? Yeah, yeah. Pharmaceutical industry. They were basically customers who were customers right out of the womb. My further question is: where are they now? These are kids that my age. They're probably doing podcasts. Nobody asks that question. Nobody has an answer for that question. And it's a good question because you'd almost easily put together a special, you know. These were the crack babies. I don't know if they're alive, man.

1:06:06 Parents, because you think about it. I was born in 80. These children were born 85 to 95, let's say. That was like the huge crack era. Yeah. Those kids are 35 to 30 years old. Yeah. So they could easily have children 15, 10 to 15 years old or younger. Is this crime we're seeing in the streets now the second generation of crack babies? It's a good question. It's worth looking at. I don't know. I mean, I just wonder how many crack babies actually survived to go on to lead productive lives.

1:06:48 Yeah, being riddled with addiction such as that is. But as we have the narrative growing, it's the slow drumbeat. You see what's going on. We have crime. We need to do something about it. And let's continue with crime 4.3. In Kansas City, Missouri, police are investigating the shooting death of an 11-year-old boy at a suspected drug house. Frederick Jones had lived in the house up until a month ago. He went back with his sister Saturday night to get some belongings. As he opened the door, he was shot dead. A 14-year-old boy has been arrested, but other children in the neighborhood are still frightened. Just that. And I'll stay in the house. Stay in the house.

1:07:32 I don't want to get shot. The world is not going right after all. God might take care of me. Police think Jones may have been shot simply because he didn't identify himself at the door. By the way, crack babies is a new name these days. What's that? Neonatal abstinence syndrome. That must be for the, is that for crack babies or opioid babies? It describes a newborn that has been exposed in utero to harmful drugs or alcohol. Isn't that amazing how they come up with a politically correct scientific name?

1:08:17 Neonatal abstinence syndrome. Really? Crack baby. Geez. George Carlin does a bit about that. It used to be called, he came back from war and he was shell-shocked. And now it's post-traumatic stress disorder. So it's all about the narrative and the names that they use in the narratives. So once again, the drumbeat is growing. And I'm going somewhere with this. I'm headed somewhere with it, just for people that's wondering. But crime 4.4. They're the youngest victims of the drug crisis, the children of addicts. There's born. born addicted, or those suffering maltreatment and neglect in cracked households.

1:08:59 Last month in Detroit, a court case offered one of the most shocking examples of how a child can suffer from a parent's addiction. A 30-year-old woman, Susan Barber, was sentenced for turning her 13-year-old daughter over to a man to be raped in return for a supply of crack. Your actions in this case are reprehensible. The act in itself is terrible. But when it infers in this fashion from the mother and a child, because I've indicated it, it exceeds all bounds of decency.

1:09:40 So there was, we have this steady drumbeat of crime, crime, crime, affect the community. And people in the community wanted answers. People in the community wanted action because these are their children being shot. These are their grandchildren being born to dependent on drugs. Another common thing I noticed when I was of that age, a lot of grandparents would have to raise their grandchildren. Yes. So you have a single old lady 50s, 60s years old with a newborn baby. Yeah. This was a common occurrence. I mean, this was very common. A lot of my grandmother's friends had to take on their

1:10:23 grandchildren due to this epidemic. Now, I'm sure people were clued into what was going on. Did they not see the systemic nature of this, or was it just so vast and so overwhelming that there really was no you couldn't see the forest through the trees, I guess. He took the words right out my mouth. I was going to use that same analogy. It happened so fast that you were like, it's like being dropped off in the forest. You didn't walk into the forest. It's like somebody just dropped you into it. You're there. Got it. And you look around, it's just like everything is changing. This is when you hear, like, and I'm referring to my grandparents a lot, but this was the difference in generation.

1:11:03 They grew up where you didn't have to lock your doors at night. Now you start to see the bars go on the windows. Yeah. These neighborhoods literally became prisons because you were living in households with bars on the doors and bars on the windows and three to four locks on your doors. But there was one death. There was one death that brought this whole thing to a climax. And it's covered by the historic controversies with Chris Calton. On June 18th, 1986, a young basketball player named Lynn Bias was celebrating.

1:11:46 The Boston Celtics had recently selected him as their first-round draft pick, and Reebok offered him a multi-million dollar deal. Even before he played in the NBA, he was a national star. That night, he went to lie down, saying he didn't feel well, and he never woke up. At 8:55 in the morning on June 19th, he was pronounced dead from heart failure. The autopsy revealed that there was cocaine in his system, and the ramifications from this would be enormous. Now, it's worth clarifying here that the medical examiners did attribute the cocaine to his death. I've heard some people argue that they never concluded that cocaine was the cause of his death, only that it was in a system. But the medical examiners did conclude that cocaine overdose was the cause of death.

1:12:29 However, the media and the government jumped on a few things about the story that are under dispute. One is that Lynn Bias was smoking crack. In reality, they don't know how he consumed the cocaine, but it probably wasn't crack. One report speculated he could have smoked free-based cocaine, though that wasn't really popular in 1986. But others said he either snorted it or swallowed it in a drink. Nobody knows exactly how he consumed the cocaine, but I personally remember being taught in school that he smoked crack, and his death occurred right after crack was starting to make national news. So it was a convenient narrative to jump on. Oh, yeah. Is this where Nancy jumps in?

1:13:08 Nancy Reagan. Is this where the war on drugs came in? This is where the war on drugs starts to begin. So Lynn Bias, just for reference, I want to give people, have you heard of Lynn Bias? Yes. Yes, I have. Yes. I'm sure you have, but just to give people a reference of Lynn Bias, imagine LeBron James, when he first got drafted and before he even plays in the NBA, dies of a crack overdose. He was the equivalent of what a LeBron James is now before he became super famous, but the potential. Oh, yeah. I mean, this guy was amazing. I mean, he was, oh, he's going to be better than Jordan because they came out about the same time out of college.

1:13:49 college, and that was the comparison. Then, boom, he was wake up one morning, he's dead. And the story is he smoked crack for the first time, and he's dead. So, so, of course, we aren't intended to know what really happened because a narrative was created, and that's it. And actually, it's, I'm reading here now: the Lend Bias Law. There you go. There you go. Let's get into part two. The primary reason that it was reported that he used cocaine for the first time was that the media and the government had already been cultivating an image of cocaine use that it was instantly addictive.

1:14:32 So, using cocaine and crack one time could make you completely addicted. I also remember being taught this when I was younger, but it's completely untrue. That narrative about cocaine addiction is an absolute fabrication. Part of the reason it was easy to spread this narrative in the case of Lynn Bias is because prior to his overdose, the media was presenting him as this squeaky, clean kid from a good family. So, they just concluded that this must have been his first time using cocaine. Regardless of the actual specific circumstances of Lynn Bias's death, this was the exact kind of catastrophe the government couldn't let go to waste. On the morning that his death was reported in the press, Lynn Bias was all anybody could talk about in Congress.

1:15:16 Tip O'Neill, the Democratic representative of Boston, who was the Speaker of the House at the time, was screaming for blood. There had better be some anti-cocaine legislation, and it had better not be something that the Republicans could take sole credit for. With the death of Lynn Bias, the cocaine scare of the 1980s had reached its apogee. And this is where everything changed. Yes. Now you see what I'm talking about: the pressure from above, pressure from below. They needed a narrative. But before we continue, I think it's a great time to take a pause. I like new money. I don't know if you do, but I hate old money that swinkles. Is this what the pause you were looking for?

1:25:25 And I don't need somebody like you messing things up with your little phone calls to the police and your stupid ass block parties. This ain't none of your damn business, man. You understand? I'm trying to get paid. You understand? And I don't need you button into my affairs. I thought this was a nice neighborhood, man. It was a nice neighborhood. It's always been a nice neighborhood. Yeah, well, I hear what you're saying, brother. But I'm a businessman. You know what I mean? You're a businessman? That's right. Is that what you call yourself? You ain't no businessman. You're a murderer. And you're killing your own people. Now, you may have done your killing someplace else, but it ain't happening here.

1:26:07 I don't think I made myself clear. I don't want your drugs. I don't want your money. I want your sorry ass out of my house and off my street. You understand? Now, you got to stop this now. Stay out of this, Ellen. I don't think you want to do this, G. Oh, yeah. I've been wanting to do this ever since you moved. No, I don't think you want to find one of these loved ones of yours in one of those garbage cans. You picked up. If you ever so much as look in that direction, I'll run down on you. I'll break your back up. You don't know how crazy I am. That was Charles. Is that Charles Dutton? Yeah, Charles Dutton. Yes. Yeah, I remember this show.

1:26:46 It was very good, actually. Fantastic, fantastic show. And they actually did several of the years live. They would do it live. Oh, I think I remember that. So it had Jamie Fox and a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this was a weird, I was, you know, I was transitioning into internet man from MTV guy. So, you know, there was a lot going on, but I do remember this. Oh, yeah. Huh. And the reason why I played this is to show the frustration of the people living in the neighborhood because this was happening in real time.

1:27:30 He was making this show as what was going on in the city of Baltimore. It's amazing that he was allowed to do that, that they put it on the air. It was. And it's amazing that we don't have any more shows like this on this case. I wonder what that is. We're regressing how weird. But it showed the frustration of the citizens living in the neighborhood. They were being held hostage. They couldn't walk up and down their streets. Their communities were becoming war zones. And they turned to their Boule politicians. And I think I explained this on the last show. And that was really the genesis and the motivation for making this show.

1:28:12 They said we have to do something in this community. My kids can't walk down the street. Kids are getting hit by random bullets. My property is being vandalized and burglarized by crack addicts. You have to do something. And those bullet politicians, their solution was the 94 crime bill. So, 25 years after the 1994 crime bill was enacted, we are still having conversations about the import and significance of the bill. That 1994 crime bill did contribute to mass incarceration in our country.

1:28:50 It's important that people remember the context of the political environment in the early 1990s. The other big piece of legislation on Capitol Hill tonight is the crime bill. Now, violent crime peaked in 1991, and the drafters of the bill didn't know that in 1993 and 1994 when they were drafting and signing it. Urban areas, urban cities across the country were ravaged by crack cocaine, and Americans were afraid of crime. The 1994 crime bill was signed by President Bill Clinton. This was a pretty significant bill at the time, and President Clinton and Senator Biden at the time were right that the bill was significant.

1:29:35 The most significant federal effort to deal with violent crime in America that has ever been undertaken. It was important for a Democrat at the time to be seen as taking a significant role in trying to reduce crime and violence in the United States. I don't know how deep we're going to go into the crime bill itself, but nothing bothers me more in today's politics. In particular, you know, with Super Tuesday and South Carolina,

1:30:17 Joe Biden's relationship to the 94, actually the full title was Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, is always like, well, yeah, you know, yes, I was part of that. No, he wrote this. Joe Biden wrote this bill. I know it. No one brings, I don't see any black people on television saying those words. Joe Biden wrote that bill. Not involved, wrote it. He wrote it. Well, you have to listen to black podcasts, the new, what is termed the new black media.

1:30:59 This is the only people that's going to hold him responsible because the establishment Democrats, the Boulet politicians, they won't do it. They're going to protect Joe Biden, as you saw with Jim Kleinberg, Kleinberg, I believe is how you pronounce it, in South Carolina. He just wrote off all of Joe's sins. It's like, oh, Joe's great. Now, on black Twitter, Black Podcasts, which I think is a different app. I got to figure out what I need to download. Is this being said this clearly? Well, how about Kleiberg? Is he being taken to task? Because I think his endorsement of Biden made it happen.

1:31:43 He's the biggest butter biscuit eater there is. And the next question is: why are people's memories so flawed? Or is it what is going on that a single African American comes out, a single person from the poor neighborhood of this era? Maybe that's more fair. I mean, where's the outrage? Is it just being completely suppressed because the media is not doing anything? Crime Bill 2. And at the time, the Congressional Black Caucus was part of the debate around the crime bill.

1:32:27 And the Congressional Black Caucus didn't want every provision that was included in this bill. It became clear that the provisions in the 94 crime bill were going to be a political compromise. And so the history is much more complicated than is sometimes portrayed by the media. Now, what did the bill do? Just like a lot of political compromises, there was the good and there was the bad. For example, the bill eliminated 19 types of semi-automatic assault weapons. It also provided huge amounts of funding to hire cops. 100,000 cops were funded. It was about $14 million at the time for community policing.

1:33:11 The bill also enacted the Violence Against Women Act that provided funding to protect women and victims of domestic violence and crimes against women. But the most pernicious provision of the 1994 crime bill was its $12 billion that was authorized for states across the country that would enact what's called truth in sentencing laws? That funding literally paid states to increase the number of prison beds that they allocated for individuals convicted of violent crime in this country to serve 85% of their sentences behind bars.

1:33:51 The reason that provision is so important and the reason we're still talking about it today is the federal government essentially subsidized states across the country to build more prisons. Yeah, and I think it was, I think it was more than 18 billion. I recall it being more. And this, of course, spawned the cops, the community-oriented policing services. I mean, that was the acronym. And mass incarceration. Of course, of course. And death penalty, 60 new death penalties, including drug offenses. It was nuts. Now, that clip was loaded with a lot of stuff.

1:34:32 So we might need to go back and maybe listen to it. And again, I don't know. But one thing you asked, you said, why is nobody pointing the fingers in the mainstream? Yeah. Why is nobody pointing fingers at Joe Biden? Well, if you were a member of the black caucus at that time, if you point fingers at Joe Biden, do you point fingers at yourself? Yes, because they were clearly involved. They were asking for it. We got to do something. Now, I want to go back just a little bit. That's why I played the throwback clip: Broker Families Lead to the Streets. The reason why I played that is that gentleman that was interacting with those kids was a police officer.

1:35:15 And if you use police officers from the community, then they have empathy and sympathy for the people they're trying to police. Sure. But you go and mass hire policemen from outside the community and you weaponize them with military type that can tear doors off, and then you turn around on top of that and build $12 billion worth of new prison beds. Who's going to fill those beds? And people who listen to this show, you need to tell people to listen to this podcast. You really do, because the way it is passed off, it's so is embarrassing.

1:35:57 Well, that was, yeah, that wasn't good. Fuck. It wasn't good. It was atrocious. It was complicated. That's the terminal. And this problem. No, it was problematic. That's the term. The term this reporter used was it was complicated. Now, if you're a politician that made it to the national level of politics, somebody says we're going to build $12 billion worth of new prisons. First of all, you asked, who are you going to put in those prisons? I mean, empty prisons don't make any money and they don't serve any purpose. So obviously you have an idea to lock people up. But then on top of that, they're going to have to serve 85% of

1:36:40 their sentence. So now we're not only going to fill the beds, but we're going to ensure they stay filled. Also, the prisons were commercial enterprises. This is the correctional, was it Corrections Corporation of America? I think it's CCA. And it even came up in a debate the other day that Tom Steyer had actually purchased one of these commercial prison companies. And I guess once he decided to run against Orange Man Bad, he's like, oh, I have to sell that. That's no good. What a bunch of hypocrite douchebags. Unbelievable. And a lot of these bullet saw a great investment opportunity.

1:37:20 Yes. It's like, I can take this money. I mean, it was political capital and real capital because I could take this money. They were going to build new prisons and they become investment. I can invest in them. I pretty much do what my constituents want by cleaning up the streets, but not realizing whether they ignored it or didn't, truly didn't realize it, that you're going to be locking up your constituents' kids and grandkids and nephews and nieces. And, you know, so, yeah. But this was all one big plan. And now they try to cover up for it because a lot of them have dirt on their hands.

1:38:03 When you start, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let me just interrupt. The plan, you say it was one big plan, but it was really the black caucus that pushed for it. Correct? They have no power. Right, but they wanted it. They started. Did they start the conversation? Did they start it? It was like, we need this, we need this, or where did. we know the real genesis? The conversation came from the citizens living in the community saying you need to do something. The problem wasn't that there was a solution. The problem was the solution they chose. It wasn't community policing. It wasn't how they're handling the opioid addiction now.

1:38:44 They said, let's throw $30 billion at this and let's get some basically rent a cops, you know, hire us. What's the analogy I'm looking for? Like the mercenaries. Yeah, they were mercenaries. And like I said, they were really militarized because in the first clip, I believe, the guy said, if you ever seen the Oprah clip of Straight Out of Compton, it was a tank that had tanks that could rip bars off of windows and busting doors. And it's like bad enough. And this is a term everybody wants to talk about, post-traumatic stress syndrome. Now, imagine you live in a neighborhood where gangs are trying to kill you. Safe if you're straight, if it's me.

1:39:29 Just put me in that community. I just want to go to school and get an education, you know, say have a better life. I have to make it past the gang members who's trying to recruit me. I had to make it past the crackheads who's trying to rob me, kill me. And now I have to worry about stopping frisk and these sort of militaristic policing practices of being thrown against the wall and copy of Xerox. Do you look like the perp? I know your situation was different. Did you feel any of that to a degree? To a degree. Yes. And the thing was,

1:40:13 here's the crazy thing. Us as kids, we dressed like the problem. We acted like the problem. We talked like the problem. Well, that's what you were being conditioned to do, of course, through the entertainment. Yeah. Geez. Through the propaganda. So now it's like, here's what I don't understand. Mo, I don't understand. We've done the United States government, the Boulet, they've done so much work. How come you guys are still around? I can't believe they didn't get rid of all of you. Very resilient, my friend. Holy crap. This is the story of our lives.

1:40:52 Yeah, you can't take us off. If you see the life of this show, from episode one to now, throughout history, there's been a concerted effort to take us out. Can we agree to that? Yeah, but it's so dumb. It just, I don't understand. Well, it has to be a bottom. Yeah, that was one of our first shows, actually, about the bottom. You're so, yeah, this guy, you have to have a bottom. Tag your issue. It has to be the bottom. I mean, you have to have a bottom. And when you do it on color, it makes it very easy to identify who the bottom is. But I want to get more into this 94 crime bill that was passed under Bill Clinton.

1:41:37 22 years ago, the country divided over a controversial, far-fetching anti-crime bill brought to Congress by former President Bill Clinton. Hold on, stop. What do you mean, the country divided? There was no division. Yeah, poor people, black people, they were against it, but there was no division. I'm sorry. I was around. I don't remember that. I don't remember any division like that. Okay. Critics blame the law for record-breaking incarceration rates and with further devastating poor communities. Well, just last week, President Clinton, as you know, was interrupted by Black Lives Matter's protesters upset about the 1994 crime law.

1:42:15 So the president admitted a year ago that the law jailed too many for too long while speaking at a convention for the NAACP. Clinton supported her husband in signing the law when she was first lady. In recent days, the former Secretary of State has been trying to clarify her husband's remarks on the law without trying to denounce them. Now, Bernie Sanders, along with 187 Democrats, voted for the bill in 1994, and he is now criticizing President Clinton, saying that he needed to apologize to the American people. Joining me now is Congressman Bobby Rush, who voted in favor of the crime bill in 1994. He has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. Cameron, it's my pleasure.

1:42:59 It always is great to talk to you. Let's put some perspective on what was happening. You were there 22 years ago. Do you believe the way the crime bill is being described now versus what was happening on the ground in some of that video? Is it matching here? Well, before we let Bobby. Bobby answer, another reason why I made this show, they're going to try to rewrite history again. I mean, you pointed it out with Joe Biden. Sure. These clips I've taken here on the crime bill was from the 2016 cycle when they were whitewashing no pun intended

1:43:40 that Hillary sins. You know, it was, well, the country was divided and it was difficult. And, you know, what can we foresee this? They're going to do the same thing again. And everybody wants to point the finger at Joe Biden, rightfully so. But Bernie Sanders is right up there. Oh, yeah. Oh, Bernie, Bernie, you couldn't see. I mean, you're a socialist. I mean, you should be against the government, you know. Yes, but the Schwartz children are the problem. Sorry. Right. Little interracial interfaith humor there. Yeah. So I'm making this clear so everybody can see everybody has a little dirt on their hands.

1:44:25 The Black Caucus, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton. You go down the list. Hold on. I want to put your black actors, et cetera, in that as well. They are also complicit. Yeah, they were trying to make a dollar, but a lot of harm was done. Of course. I mean, the musicians, and we're going to get there too, but let's let Bobby explain why he voted for the crime bill. Chairman, let me start out with this. I am ashamed of my vote. I sincerely apologize to

1:45:08 my God. I apologize to my community, to my family. That was the worst vote as I look back over the years that I've taken since I've been in the Congress. It was a vote that really was accompanied with a lot of hope that we will finally be able to deal with not only the issue of crime in our community, devastating crime, but then we will also be able to do those things and have those programs and

1:45:49 policies to deal with the other kinds of issues, the other problems in our community. And what happened with the crime bill and its implementation was that there was too much of a focus, too many resources on locking them up, but no resources on love and compassion. And as a result, we have devastated our communities, devastated our families, devastated our futures.

1:46:30 So there you have it. Oh, we didn't know what was going to happen. We didn't know what happened if you build $12 billion worth of new prisons. Seriously. Really? Really? It's such bull crap. You're not that smart and that dumb at the same time. You just can't be. But we're looking at it from a political standpoint of the wrongdoings. It goes deeper than that. Of course. And we're going to go there. And going back to the movie New Jack City, there was a scene, a court scene, where Nino Brown and all the bad that he done let some truth out.

1:47:13 You're the one who's guilty. Lawmakers, the politicians, the Colombian drug lords, all you who lobby against making drugs legal, just like you did with alcohol during the prohibition, you're the one who's guilty. I mean, come on, let's kick the ballistics here. Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem. I mean, not one of us in here owns a poppy fee. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown. This is big business. This is the American way. Yeah. The business of America is business. And now I'm sure we go to exactly how it all came about.

1:47:52 Yes, we do. And we're going to let one Mr. Gary Webb in a throwback clip explain it in his own words. My name is Gary Webb. I am an investigative journalist. I've been an investigative journalist for about 25 years for daily newspapers. And in 1996, I wrote a series of stories entitled Dark Alliance, which was about CIA involvement and drug drugs. trafficking. What my story showed was that the cocaine that was being sold in those neighborhoods was coming from mainly one source, and this one source was being used to finance a guerrilla war in Central America.

1:48:42 The general idea of the CIA dealing drugs was something that the American mainstream press had never written about before, and that's why it prompted outrage among blacks, among drug reform activists, among politicians, by the CIA, by every federal agency involved in a drug war, because it showed they weren't doing their jobs, that it was a fraud. Yes, this is very one of my favorite stories of Gary Webb, a true hero in reporting this in the Mercury news. And a running joke that we've had on No Agenda is:

1:49:23 you know, careful or you wind up shooting yourself in the head twice. And that's literally what the cause of death has been recorded as two gunshots to the head, a suicide. Which is just so, I think the gun was in his left hand, too. It is so incredibly hard to do that, which of course means he was taken out. But yeah, Gary Webb really blew this wide open. And we, for the ones that done the investigation on this topic, we've heard about the role of Reagan and Bush and Oliver North and the people of that nature.

1:50:06 And a little known fact here. We've known Compton, California, was one of the epicenters of the crack cocaine. And I remember hearing this as a teenager that, yeah, the CIA showed the gangs how to cook up crack in Compton, you know, in South Central LA. Well, here's a little, did you know? Well, Richard Nixon, he grew up in Yorba Lindy's Citrus Ranch. Ronald Reagan spent time in Berl Air. But did you know the Bushes was straight out of Compton? The Bushes? Yes. No.

1:50:49 No, I didn't. This is from Gizmodo. It says, actually, the Bush family only called Los Angeles County suburb home for six short months in 1949 to 1950. George H.W. Bush, the future 41st president of the United States, was on a temporary assignment in California for the dressing industry, selling oil drill bits for the dresser subsidiary name Security Engineering Company. Now, the future CIA head of the CIA, and the CIA was known for

1:51:27 their role in the Iron Country scandal and the proliferation of the crack epidemic, happened to live in Compton, California. And that's where one of the epicenters of the crack era started. I didn't know that. You think of Compton, all you think of is straight out of Compton. Literally, those are the images that come up in your head. I didn't know this. But I'm looking at the- Due to white flight, it was a white community, but it became majority black. And then all of a sudden, this is where crack started. I mean, it's like one of the birthplaces of crack cocaine.

1:52:10 How'd that work out? Fantastic. That's just a coincidence. But, of course. But another epicenter of the crack epidemic is Mina, Arkansas. On October the 7th, 1994, Sarah McClendon, the senior White House news correspondent who has covered 11 presidential administrations, beginning with that of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, demonstrated once again that she has the courage to ask the hardballed questions other journalists only dare to think. As she confronted William Jefferson Clinton about the Central Intelligence Agency's involvement in nefarious activities, activities set at a remote airport in western Arkansas while Clinton was Arkansas's commander-in-chief.

1:52:56 She finally cornered the man who was a co-conspirator in bypassing the Constitution of the United States of America. In doing so, the president was not only forced to address the looming scandal that may impeach him, Clinton. Clinton once again demonstrated his trademark talent. He lied. Yeah, and what is kind of interesting is, you know, if you follow the entertainment track of this, of course, Tom Cruise just did a movie about Mina, Arkansas. Well, she had to change the name. Yeah, but it was also missing some key elements like, I don't know, Bill Clinton, the Bushes.

1:53:33 Oh, yeah. Yeah, people don't really know this, but it's like, here's how you're how you set the narrative, but here's also how you polish off all the old crap. You know, just make a movie about it, bring in the top guns, to coin a phrase, and, you know, and focus it on Barry, was it Barry Sands, Barry Shields, I think his name was, the pilot, and make it all about him and, you know, and just completely get rid of all of the history. And lo and behold, the history goes away. Except for on this show,

1:54:09 doesn't that sound very similar to how they rewrote history with American Gangster and having Frank Lewis be the face of all heroin in the 1970s in America? You know, the Pentagon and CIA have offices in Hollywood. So, yes, of course. Of course, it's how you do it. So, what I'm listening to, Miss Sarah McClendon, asks Bill Clinton about his Mina Connection. Sir, the Republicans are trying to blame you for the existence of a small air base at MENA, Arkansas. This base was set up by George Bush and Oliver North and the CIA to help the Iran Contras. And they brought in plane load after plane load of cocaine there for sale in the United States.

1:54:54 And then they took the money and bought weapons and took them back to the Contras, all of which was illegal, as you know, under the Bowler Act. But tell me, did they tell you that this had to be in existence because of national security? Well, let me answer the question. No, they didn't tell me anything about it. They didn't say anything to me about it. That is what, by the way, that's what we call a performative, where you're going to say something. Well, let me say this about that, or let me answer the question. It doesn't mean you give an answer. The airport in question and all the events in question were the subject of state and federal inquiries. It was primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it.

1:55:37 The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was within the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under jurisdiction of the United States attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing, zero, to do with it. And everybody who's ever looked into it knows that. Bullshit. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Did you hear answer? Yeah. Of course not. Of course not. Of course not. Let me answer that. That doesn't mean he's giving an answer. Not at all. And this lady, Sarah McClinton, like you said, she started under 11.

1:56:18 11 administrations. She's no lightweight. No, no kidding. For her to ask that question, it had to be serious smoke there. But as you, why is this not being brought up? Why was this not brought up in the 2016 election? Why was this not being brought up now? Well, it was definitely, it's been discussed, but not in the mainstream. No, of course not. No. And it's a lot of people, this thing, and one thing I didn't, I didn't want to clip it, but Maxine Waters, she had she held a hearing in Congress on this very topic. But now all of a sudden she had, yeah, she has, she has a,

1:57:01 her memory is slipping her now. I don't remember. Go look it up. Maxine Waters. It was not really anything clippable because it was like long drawn out answers. But yeah, Maxine Waters, she knew what was going on. And let's not forget Barry O. He was, he was, in his book, he confessed to selling drugs. And we've covered his connection with the CIA. All these things are just so convenient. So, so very convenient, how they're all connected, but nobody points the finger at anybody in this day and age where we want to expose everybody. My millennials, stay woke. Okay. Great words, Maxine.

1:57:45 All right, so let's get into the final clip of the meaning connection. What forces could be responsible for compromising the entire system of justice? Bill Clinton certainly knows. He was the governor of Arkansas who allowed the subversion of his state government by the shadowy forces radiating from the Reagan-Bush Bush War. White House when ex-CIA Director William Casey began using the CIA to illegally conduct secret foreign policy. This serious breach of America's constitutional authority was labeled by the media as Iran-Contra. This documentary will rewrite this dark period in American history and leave you with an annoying question: who or what is running this country,

1:58:33 gun running, mysterious CIA flights, contra military training, guerrilla pilot training, clandestine airdrops, tons of illegal drugs, millions of dollars in dirty money, covert activity in some third world banana republic, right? Wrong, Arkansas, America's own banana republic.

1:59:17 And if you think it ended with Iran-Contra, let's look at Libya, let's look at Syria, Benghazi has to do with this: gun running, terrorist airdrop. Oh, who was it? Oh, who was involved? Oh, oh, my, another Clinton, Hillary Clinton. Except, you know, the payoff was different. The payoff was in money to the Clinton Foundation, all kinds of shenanigans. You know, I started watching her perfectly timed documentary, which launched March 6th, which is what you do right after Super Tuesday, of course.

1:59:56 Perfect. And it is, it is so convincing. I've only seen the first hour. It's four hours. I actually think Hillary Clinton started as a very good person. And somewhere, I've only seen the first hour. I will identify it. Somewhere, the power or the money or a combination got to her, and she just became evil itself. Well, from what I've read on her, the Rodham family has nefarious ties to organized crime.

2:00:39 And her adoptive family, the Bushes. I mean, this is not my words. This is her adoptive brother speaking when he asked about Bill Clinton, George W. Bush. He said, oh, that's my brother. And he's like, oh, so what does that make? Hillary? Oh, my sister. So I'm not giving him a pass. Well, by the way, Hillary truly is white. I mean, she comes from white supremacy. Yes. She comes from Coventry, England. Here it is. Morris Rodham, Archdeacon of Warwick. She literally is from the white bloodlines that are the origins of white supremacy. It doesn't have to go back that far, actually.

2:01:24 And the Bushes are white by marriage because they married into the Brown family. Exactly. And the Harrim family. So, I mean, those are very big names. So, just getting back on track with the Arkansas connection, two things. One, I remember, this is pre-internet. There was a group called Goody Mob. They were associated with Outcast. You're familiar with Outcast Andre 3000. Of course. They had a song that went, don't hold me to the lyrics exactly, but it said, Dirty Bill Clinton for me some weight. Told me, get 10, bring him eight. No, bring him eight, something.

2:02:04 But he was basically alluding to the fact that the drug deal was dead. Yeah. Including Bill Clinton. Well, it's not like we don't know Bill and his brother were kind of fans of the powder. So going back to the Arkansas connection, my brain does what it does. And I remember this documentary about Little Rock, Arkansas in the mid-90s from HBO called Banging in Little Rock. Several years ago, when I saw the death rate begin to change, or not, the death rate was increasing, but the demographics, the victims were becoming much younger and younger and began to see tattoos and brands on the victims and began to notice graffiti and then began to notice that the violence just was increasing

2:02:52 and drive-by shootings and random shootings and random killings and retaliation killings and it just went on and on until 1990 1992. We had a record rate of homicides in Little Rock, and it looks we've broken the record in 1993, and it's just gone on and on and on. Bill Clinton is hated in Little Rock. Uh-huh. He is hated. My uncle, who I should disclose, I should have disclosed this earlier. My uncle, Don Don Gregg, he was national security advisor to Bush Sr. during Iran-Contra. There were hearings, and he was grilled, and he was

2:03:36 exonerated as having nothing to do with it. Politically, he was damaged, and he became ambassador to South Korea. But I speak to him often. I've never really talked to him about this. I don't know if he, I don't, he may not want to talk about it. I don't know. But I do know that he went to, he had some business in Little Rock and he was talking to, I think there's some kind of state library. And I just recall him telling the story that all the, particularly women who were there, the name of Bill Clinton just brought like scowls of anger.

2:04:16 They hate him. Hate him. Well, I'm going to go into a little bit of, can I get a little theorem? Not a lot. Little theorem. Come about to go a little left with the, I think we can roll out a bit of theremin for you. There you go. All right. Here we go. We're going to, I don't know if it's going to be conspiracy theory or conspiracy facts. We'll see. All right. So are you? Are you familiar with Mr. George Webb? Yes, of course. George Webb does great YouTube videos. He is so far out ahead of understanding in particular crimes like what happened in Benghazi.

2:04:57 I mean, yeah, the guy is fantastic. He has such a high output, it's almost impossible to keep up with him. Yes, of course, I'm familiar with him. And with that said, I dug and dug and dug and dug and dug and couldn't find this clip, but I'll never forget it. Verbatim, this is what he said. He was like, well, not verbatim, but I'm going to give you a synopsis of what he said. Arkansas, that is the home of Mina, Arkansas, home of Bill Clinton, but also home of Walmart and Tyson's chicken. Yes. Okay. This way he tells the story is they used to ship the cocaine in Tyson's Inside Chicken.

2:05:39 I've heard this. Yeah. I've heard this. And what validated this for me is if you know anything about rap, hip-hop, and slang, slang for a kilo of cocaine is a chicken. So when he said that, my head said, wow. It just blew open. And that would make about sense. A chicken about two, you know, two pounds. Oh, my goodness. Hollowed out, the hollowed out chicken. They will put it inside there and they would distribute it to the Walmart, which Sam Walton. Sam Walton, his two children are what, like six, seven, and eight on the Forbes. Oh, yeah. The whole richest family in the world, pretty much.

2:06:24 Yeah. Right. So all this came out of Arkansas, and then you see this special banging in. I'm like, banging in Little Rock. Why do you have gangs in Little Rock and all these drugs? Well, hello. It's in the chicken. There you have it. And by the way, how cynical is that for a drug that, well, let's just say we take it to crack cocaine targeted black people to then put it in chicken. Holy crap. That's bad. That's the worst. And even more cynical, how is it that Hillary Clinton could fix her list to call other people super predators? The fourth challenge is to take back our streets from crime, gangs, and drugs.

2:07:04 And we have actually been making progress on this count as a nation because of what local law enforcement officials are doing, because of what citizens and neighborhood patrols are doing. We're making some progress. Much of it is related to the initiative called community policing because we have finally gotten more police officers on the street. That was one of the goals that the president had when he pushed the crime bill that was passed in 1994. He promised 100,000 police. We're moving in that direction, but we can see it already makes a difference. Because if we have more police interacting with people, having them on the streets, we can prevent crimes.

2:07:43 We can prevent petty crimes from turning into something worse. But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs, just as in a previous generation, we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people. people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels. They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators. No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heal. And the president has asked the FBI to launch a very concerted effort against gangs everywhere. That's one of my favorite clips because it has everything in it. It's got the they need to bring them to heal. I love that. Super predators. In the old country

2:08:27 and connected to large cartels. Oh, yeah. The one that me and my husband run. This is in the old country, we say, Vaitercef beneself, mitu corpor de health. You are what you accuse others of. Jacques de Jacuse Maccuse in French. This is always the way it is. They're so brazen. It's unreal. So one of those super predators, and this is going to just be foreshadowing to how it constitutes. I know what's coming now. We know the biggest super predator on the scene, Mr. Sean Jay-Z Carter. He owns Rockefeller Records. Now, let me shine a little light on the name Rockefeller.

2:09:12 Rockefeller can mean, you know, David Rockefeller, one of the Illuminati, aka white supremacy. Oh, wait, let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Something with rock? No, Rockefeller drug laws. Oh, my goodness. Which are the statutes dealing with the sale and possession of narcotic drugs in the New York state penal law. The law was named after Nelson Rockefeller, who was the state governor at the time the law was adopted. Rockefeller had previously backed drug rehabilitation, job training, and housing strategies, have seen drugs as a social problem rather than a criminal one, but did not, but did an about face during a period of mounting national anxiety about drug use and crime.

2:10:00 Rockefeller, a staunch supporter of the bill, contained the law, had presidential ambitions, and so wanted to raise his national posture by being tough on crime. And now, Mr. Jay-Z names his record label after Rockefeller. And I find it weird that the Rockefeller family never made him change the name of his record label. Yeah. And I even find it more weird that Mr. Super Predator himself, Jay-Z Boulet, extraordinaire, and his wife show support for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

2:10:41 Eight years ago, I was so inspired to know that my nephew, a young black child, could grow up knowing his dreams could be realized by witnessing a black president in office. And now we have the opportunity to create more change. I want my daughter to grow up seeing a woman lead our country and know that her possibilities are limitless.

2:11:19 We have to think about the future of our daughters, our sons, and vote for someone who cares for them as much as we do. And that is why I'm with her. This other guy, I don't have any ill will towards him, but his conversation is divisive, and that's not an evolved soul to me. So he cannot be my president. He cannot be our president. Once you divide us, you weaken us. We're stronger together. Once you divide us, you weaken us. We are stronger together. Without further ado,

2:12:02 I would like to introduce to you the next president of the United States, Miss Timothy Keirnan. Yes, Miss Butter Biscuit Beyonce, right there, front and center with Jail Z. What a frigging joke. You know, this is a psychological thing, and this came up on the Rogan show about the Google guys. You know, people who are abused often go on to abuse others. Abuse children often go on to abuse children. Abuse children, abuse children, and it perpetuates. And I think this is a clear example of this psychological condition.

2:12:44 I have no other explanation for it. I really, no, I don't. I mean, why else would you? you be like that? Would you do that? How is it that she can fix her mouth to call people super predators? And the very poster book, I mean, poster child for being a super predator, you have him campaign for you. Yeah. Well, I don't understand. Oh, birds of a feather flock together. It blows my mind. Okay, I want everyone to hear me now, believe me later. You must tweet this episode in relation to Hillary Clinton's documentary.

2:13:28 Before you watch the documentary, listen to this show. Tell people that because it puts a lot of context into what's going on. If you are voting in the Democratic primary, by the way, there's also, you know, when it comes down to elections, there are also independent parties. It's not just two you can choose from. I always choose for the guy who wants to build a dome around something and give flamethrowers to teachers. But bear in mind the history of what appears to be the true frontrunners, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders and what you've heard today. And propagate that formula. Let people know about it. And I'm just as guilty of it.

2:14:10 I forget. I've been looking at Joe Biden for weeks now on this. They just look at how senile he is. And I completely forget too. It's like, oh, man, he wrote the bill. It wasn't just, you know, how he's saying up there and going, I was a part of that. And by the way, when he says, I was a part of the assault weapon ban. Yeah, the assault weapon ban actually was one of the first title in the actual 1994 crime bill. So it wasn't a separate entity. It's because he wrote the whole thing. And you can't just let the man take credit for one part and not the other part.

2:14:47 And in closing, what I find just what baffles me is he has a son who allegedly struggles with addiction. Oh, it's not alleged. He's been arrested for it. He was kicked out of the military for it. So where's the compassion? This thing can, I mean, drugs is not something that you, they always set it up. And I'm going to close on this. We heard in The Godfather what they say. You can sell drugs as long as you leave it down there with the niggers. And I don't use that word very often on this show. I don't think I ever have, but just to show you the potency of that idea. Yeah, bring it in, leave it down there with the, you know, the blacks, quote unquote, the blacks, and, you know, let it kill them.

2:15:33 But it always seeps out and it comes, you know, comes to hit them close to home. And there's no compassion. And like I said, the only solution is we have to police ourselves. We have to have police come from the community. And that's it. And pay attention to who you're voting for. That does matter. And I'm talking local. True politics is local. Look at what's going on in your city council. Look at who your local representatives are. Who are your representatives in Congress and the Senate? These are the people you need to hound. The figureheads. Yeah, there's reasons for them. There's important reasons for them. But look at your local situation.

2:16:13 That's where you can change the most. And please consider supporting the work that is being done here on MoFax with Adam Curry. You can find our episodes, more information at mofax.com. And we have a direct link to our donation page at mofundme.com, where we be spitting the truth once a week. And while you're paying attention to those candidates, also pay attention to everything, and the truth will reveal itself. Yo, this song goes out to all the teens across America, man. Living in single-parent homes. And they mother, father, one pick a boyfriend or girlfriend over you. Remember, parents, kids don't ask to be born. My story goes a little bit deeper.

2:16:57 Come about 88. Yo, this nigga named T. Ruggs, my mom dates him. I swear to God, I hate him. Thought could I break him? When he come around, I brain sits with him like a stake him. Damn, can't Jakes take him? She neglected him. Run around with this punk nigga recklessly. Had her in a tunnel. Guess she was an ecstasy. First love, very possessively. Only excessively. That's a boyfriend or a toy friend. See, let me specify. Her last man took the money. Left the guy. Dead job. Give it to D-Rugs. She kept her high. When he come around, see her facial. She sniffed it in her nasal. She wouldn't even listen. I told her he ain't faithful. Fucking with a Rachel. Y'all so dumb.

2:17:42 Making me look disgraceful. Got a girl hates. me, ending up a white one with him. I'm the monster in your dreams for my love, you and me. Yo, yo, yo, what the deal's done? It's 91, mom still strong. On this nigga D-Rugs, his game tight. Every night in the room to screw him. Yeah, she doing, but my man Unknown School me to told me he a mad hoe.

2:18:24 He used to pimple, he could get me mad though. What you mean? Yo, it's more than just your mother. He got other partners, he a foreigner though. The cops don't like a legal alien. Can't even say his name on the phone. But yoke get money with him, then leave him alone. Or you be inside the new cuffs, plus a new shrush. Told me more about him, then he introduced us. Took me to the block where everybody get him off. Show me his clientele ever since hit it off. He was right, D-Rugs got dumb freaks. Men and women love him, got me tank. I'm your mama, I'm your daddy. I'm that nigga in the alley. I'm your doctor when in need, I'm your hope.

2:19:06 I'm your weed. You know me, I'm your friend. Your main boy, thick and thin. I'm the monster in your dreams. For my love, you and me. Yo, yo, now it's 98. D-Rugs, he paid me well. 500 SEL got me laying at ATL. It's all swell, way beyond the fellas. Now that we together, I think my mom is jealous. Cause he with me now, but see the way I cheat him. Cause when it come to her, she even pay to see him. Yo, money excite me. But niggas on my block, they got shy steep. Cause I'm with D-Rugs, they don't like me. Tried to snipe me right before the damn feds had indicted me.

2:19:49 You know my mother, her nostrils wide. Too much of D-Rugs left my hospital lies. We both was arrested, stars of the block. Pop by cardiac, me by the cops. But for my mother, yo it's nothing but love. But that's what we get. Fucking drops. Mama, I'm your daddy. I'm that nigga in the alley. I'm your doctor when in need. I'm your core, I'm your weed. You know me, I'm your friend. Your main boy, thick and thin. I'm the monster in your dreams. For my love, you and me. I'm your mama, I'm your daddy. I'm that nigga in the alley.

2:20:34 I'm your doctor when in need. I'm your hope, I'm your weed. You know me, I'm your friend. Your main boy, thick and thin. I'm the monster in your dreams. For my love, you and me. Yo, push your face.