1:00:59 And then Don Lemon in the next clip presses April Ryan on the African-American thing. Yes, it's a classic clip. I love this one. What do you make of her answer, April? It's good for her. You know, there's a lot to unpack here. Number one, what does black enough mean? Can someone give me a definition of what black enough is? I don't want to go down the road of the stereotype when people say we're black. Number one, she is a black woman. She's a mixed race woman. When you see her, you see her blackness, but she is also South Asian. Her mom is South Asian and her dad is Jamaican. April, April, April. Let me listen. More power to her. And I think it's great. That should be enough.
1:01:42 It is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they did the same thing. No, no, no, no, no. I think you're not hearing what people are saying. The people who are saying, is she black enough? That's bold. That's BS. But I want a distinction to say, is she African-American or is she black or is she whatever? There is nothing wrong with that. There is a difference between being African-American and being black. People, Latino people are people of color, but they're not black. They're brown people. She is a woman of color, but she is a black woman. Okay, that's why. I agree with that. I agree with that. But is she African-American? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:02:24 But is she African-American? There is a difference. There's nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to take anything away from her. I think you're falling. I think you're falling into a trap of that. All she had to do was say, I am black, but I'm not African-American. And I got a lot of respect for Don Lemon for doing this, which is probably the main reason I still put up with him. Is for this clip. How did that go over in the black community? I mean, I'm sure it must have been divided. Some people like, well, that's crap or not. I don't know. I mean, to me, and this is, of course, after you and I had been talking for a while, like, yeah, go, Don Lemon. You're absolutely right. You're calling it, and April Ryan is pushing back like a weasel.
1:03:07 I can only speak for me. Don gained a lot of integrity points because he could have easily snowballed it over like Charlemagne did. Right. And, you know, and just kind of went with the flow. But nah, he was like, nah, like, she's not African-American from the sense of the word that you're trying to use it. And April Ryan, let me just give you a little factoid about her. On July 11, 2019, she was inducted as an honorary member of Delta Sigma Theta, sorority. Oh, isn't that special? Kind of late in life to be like, she was in, she was shepherded in. She was brought into the fam. Very nice.
1:03:49 Yeah, to the sisterhood. He was like, welcome to the club. So just to let you know, I mean, they were dragging this corpse as far as it would go because. because they had a lot rotting on Kamala. If they get her into the White House, they have the access that they didn't have with Obama. Right. Because Obama's like, I don't need you guys. I don't need your bule. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like, my wife is in it, but I mean, I mean, he was in a whole different power structure, tapped into a whole different power structure. So he didn't really need these guys. Where if they made and created the candidate like they would have to do with Kamala, she would be, you know, she would owe them one and then they could cash in their favors.
1:04:30 So this is why they were so tied to her and her winning. But really, that was April Ryan was just the last sputtering gasp of reality slipping away there. That was, and it was over by then, and she just put another nail in the coffin, really, or with Don. And yeah, and when you have Don Lemon checking you on blackness, that's funny. Wow, man. You got Don Lemon checking you on blackness. Things are bad. Yeah, just for who he, for the gaps he's made on social media when it comes to the conversation, that's real bad for April. So