Monday, 16 December 2019

18: Shero to Zero

A post-mortem on the Kamala Harris campaign reveals how internal mismanagement and a rejection of specific policy demands alienated the very voters she needed most.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 1h 56m listen | 31 chapters
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About this episode

Senator Kamala Harris suspended her 2020 presidential campaign, marking a dramatic fall for a candidate once touted as the Silicon Valley frontrunner. The exit follows a series of polling declines triggered by Tulsi Gabbard and internal reports of financial mismanagement and staff defections to the Michael Bloomberg campaign. Despite early momentum, Harris failed to secure the critical South Carolina primary base, leaving the Democratic debate stage without a single person of color.

Sunny Hostin and Joy Behar on The View attribute the campaign's collapse to systemic racism, while critics like Ben Shapiro argue that Harris relied too heavily on intersectional identity politics. Attorney Benjamin Crump and the Omega Psi Phi fraternity initially championed her as a trailblazer, but her rejection of race-specific policies in favor of the "Lyft Act" alienated the American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) movement. Media figures including Joy Reid and Roland Martin defended the Senator by labeling her critics as Russian bots or agents of black self-hate, even as Harris faced scrutiny over her Canadian upbringing on The Breakfast Club.

Cultural authenticity became a flashpoint when Luther "Uncle Luke" Campbell claimed to certify Harris after a conversation about fried chicken. The episode also explores the clandestine influence of the Sigma Pi Phi Boule as described by the late Steve Cokley and the transition of the black media guard as Tom Joyner retires from radio. Guests and analysts conclude that the attempt to manufacture a second Obama-style phenomenon failed because the candidate could not reconcile her prosecutorial record with the demands of the modern electorate.


CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

MoFax Episode 18 Introduction and Value for Value Model

Adam Curry and Mo open episode 18 of MoFax on December 16, 2019. They discuss the "value for value" funding model, encouraging listeners to support the show via mofundme.com. Mo thanks contributors and notes he is catching up on personal emails to supporters.

mofax· adam curry· mofundme· value for value· podcasting

00:11 MoFax with Adam Curry for December 16th, 2019. This is episode number 18. Hey, Mo. How you doing, Adam? I am doing good, man. I missed you last week. I know, man. Life comes at you fast and hard, but we're back in the saddle. Yeah, we did. I was all over the world, you know, throwing people in ovens. That's a bad joke. Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty bad joke. But we are back, and a lot of people were jonesing, man. They're like, oh, how come I need more facts? And he said, Mofax, we've got him hooked. Now, if we can just get him to realize that this is a value for value proposition and people need to support the show, that would be even better.

00:55 So do check out mofax.com or go to mofundme.com, mo e-fundme.com. And as always, I am super excited to find out what you've lined up for us today, Mo. So first of all, for the people that have contributed and supported, I would like to say thank you. I haven't got back to the emails. I like to send personally send out emails thanking people just so they don't feel like it's a form like responding back to them. So I'm a little behind on that, but I appreciate all the well wishes and wondering where we're at. And while we were apart, Miss Kamala Harris exits the 2020 race.

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

Kamala Harris Suspends 2020 Presidential Campaign

Senator Kamala Harris announced the suspension of her 2020 presidential campaign, citing a lack of financial resources despite her initial status as a frontrunner. The discussion highlights her early debate clash with Joe Biden and the subsequent polling decline following attacks from Tulsi Gabbard. Mo notes that his own public commentary began with skepticism regarding Harris and the Jussie Smollett incident.

kamala harris· 2020 election· democratic primary· tulsi gabbard· joe biden

01:34 Yes, she does. So the Democratic playing field just lost another candidate. Senator Kamala Kamala Harris announced she's suspending her campaign. Here's what she said about it. It is with deep regret, but also with deep gratitude that I am suspending our campaign today. But I want to be clear with you. I am still very much in this fight, and I will keep fighting every day for what this campaign has been about. Justice for the people. All the people. Yes, it was a dark day. Kamala dropped out, Mo. I didn't know what to do.

02:14 I danced a little jig. Okay. And the tone is set. To give a little history, Kamala Harris and my stepping into the podcast or commentating aligned because I'll tell the story just shortly, briefly. But with the Jesse Smullet is how I started voicing what I've seen, what I saw, and kind of predicting how it happened. And, you know, the whole anti-lynching bill and her role in that.

02:54 It's what kind of pulled me out of the shadows and to have a public voice. Yeah, this is true. Both Kamala Harris had an anti-lynching bill, which felt kind of like an anachronism anyway in this day and age, but it was a literal anti-lynching bill. Corey Booker was all in on it. And the coincidence of the Jesse Smollett so-called lynching and that bill was not something to be overlooked. Yes. And this is how I got MoFax got started. And now we're here today. We did a show previously on Kamala Harris and Sharla Man the Guard talking about how the apparatus, the media apparatus was protecting Kamala and how she was really, she was really the chosen one for 2020.

03:40 And she blew it. Yeah. And right out of the gate with the debate, she immediately attacked Frontrunner, Joe Biden. And I think what happened is Tulsi Gabbard slipped in there and that threw her off balance, it looks like. Yeah, but it started way before then. So this show we're going to investigate and expose the whole campaign from beginning to end. Nice. So I'm using the view as a backdrop just from the beginning here. And why not use the view for some historical context? It's such a great show.

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

The View Reacts to Kamala Harris Dropping Out

Co-hosts on The View, including Sunny Hostin and Joy Behar, debate the reasons behind Kamala Harris's exit from the race. Hostin attributes the failure to "unprecedented sexism and racism," while others point to low polling numbers compared to candidates like Amy Klobuchar and Andrew Yang. The segment critiques the media's tendency to use identity politics as a shield for poor campaign performance.

the view· sunny hostin· joy behar· amy klobuchar· sexism· racism

04:19 I love it. And it's a great jumping off point because you had nothing but women and she was being the top woman, female candidate. If you want to say Elizabeth Warren, maybe it's a coin toss between those two. But just the different pockets of support on that show, I find very interesting. So Miss Sonny Haustin was a bit upset over Kamala dropping out. My biggest issue was her. I didn't think that she connected to voters as well. She could have. That moment, I brought this up yesterday, that moment in the debate where she went after Joe Biden. She thought that was her big moment. And a lot of the media talked about that as being. a big moment for her. I thought that just totally fell flat.

05:03 And if anything, it did the opposite of what she was hoping it would do. Well, it did eventually. Yeah. Didn't help her. I'm not surprised at all by this, frankly. If you're not winning your home state, you probably shouldn't be winning for president. It didn't fall flat for me. I think she spoke to a lot of the issues that matter to me. I was disappointed, actually, that she dropped out and had to suspend her campaign. And I think that, you know, there's no question that there were obviously problems with her campaign. I think there were obviously financial problems, but I don't think that you can look at that without also looking at the fact that as a woman of color, she also faced unprecedented sexism, compounded by racism as well, as a female candidate of color.

05:49 And I think it's just surprising that there are people that are still in the race facing issues that are still in the race. Yeah, this wasn't deconstructed much in the mainstream. I saw some, of course, some Fox News people were doing it. But to say that sexism and racism was part of the demise of her campaign is to call Democrats, because that's what this is. It's a preliminary. It's to see who's going to be the nominee. It was basically calling Democratic voters racist ancestors. Racist. Yeah. Yes. And it's the combination.

06:29 You see, see, it's the combination because you still have Corey Booker hanging on for dear life. Right. And he's black, allegedly. And you have the only Ados guy around, to be honest. He's got this, he's got something going on. And then you have Elizabeth Warren, which is the female. And you have Amy Klobuchar, which is a female. So to make the excuse, and this was very Hillary-esque. Yes. The whole excuse making, I mean, soon as she announced they had the canned excuses ready and why she didn't win. And it was very reminiscent of

07:12 2016 when Hillary lost it to Trump. Right. So the ladies at the View start to get a little catty. For example, Amy Klobuchar. We had her on our show just this week. She's polling lower than Kamala Harris, and she's a former prosecutor. So how do you explain that? Why is she still there and Kamala's not? I would say. Statistical numbers, though, are trending upwards and Kamala's was trending up. So how do you actually significant? Actually, but if you look at the polling, I just thought that was a very long time. It was just done yesterday. Kamala had 5% of the vote, a national poll. It put her in sixth place. Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard had 2%.

07:51 The poll had Andrew Yang at 4%. Even today, there's a poll that has her, Had Harris at 6%. She's been steady, actually not trending downward. But maybe she has less money. Does she have less money than Amy? What is that? Does she have less money? Can I finish, please? She may be already have less. I'm actually not finished speaking, but that's fine. Does she have less money than Amy than a Kamala? Forget it. Well, that's Joy Behar, my favorite, in the background. And she's asking the right question. Does she have any money? I mean, that was why she had to shut down. I presume campaigns shut down because they're out of money. And what's the strange part about this is you would think Kamala and money would not be the issue.

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Financial Struggles and Campaign Mismanagement Rumors

Despite being touted as the candidate of Silicon Valley, Kamala Harris's campaign suffered from severe financial depletion and internal mismanagement. Reports surfaced of staff members resigning due to a lack of leadership, with some defecting to Michael Bloomberg's campaign. Analysts suggest Harris failed to secure the essential "black vote" needed to sustain her momentum heading into the South Carolina primary.

silicon valley· campaign finance· south carolina· michael bloomberg· resignation

08:36 Right. Going into this election, she was touted as the Silicon Valley. She would have candidate. Not only that, I think she was a Soros sister to some degree. Of the highest order. Yeah, exactly. She was the big dog on campus. So, you know, thank you for bringing this up because I don't know if you have any answers to this, but what happened? Did the money just dry up? Or there was speculation she was doing this to become a VP and maybe even that she would be Biden's VP. There was a lot of different speculation rumors going around. Well, money can't buy love.

09:19 That's the problem. And the love that she needed was from the black vote. Right. And she sucked at getting. That was the whole okay. Kamala was constructed to be Obama 2.0. Correct. The whole blueprint. She checked all the boxes and she even had one thing that Obama couldn't have, and that's being a female. So they're like, this was, it was like, kind of, you just show up. I think she thought she could just show up and the nomination was her. was hers because she could just thought she was going to bring out the black vote, but that wasn't necessarily the case.

10:03 And we're going to get into that more of the construction of Kamala Harris and what kind of candidate she was. But I want to get back to the cattiness a little bit. Yes, please. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. To say this country has not proven the opposite of what you're saying, I think is factually wrong. So at some point, you got to look in the mirror as a candidate say, you know what, maybe it's me. Maybe I'm struggling to connect to the voters. Maybe I am not giving them what they want to hear. Well, actually, Abby, I think that there's just no question that we did have a black president twice. And I think that's wonderful. But I think the election of President Trump may prove my point. It may prove my point because we're in a very divisive place.

10:46 And I think when you're trying to make a lot of Trump, the fact that Trump is there could be a reaction to a black president. I think that's the point. I think that's far-fetched. Really? Really? No, I think it comes back. If you're on the Democratic side, if you're running for president, I think you have one thing that you're supposed to do. That is convince the voters to vote for you. Wow, they're confused over there at the view. It was whitelash, Abby. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. That's the argument Sonny is making. It was, it was whitelash. But how can she say this? And somehow Trump is responsible for Democrats hating black people. Is that the idea? It makes no sense. It makes no sense at all, but

11:32 there's Sonny a huge Kamala fan. Yes. Huge, huge. And they, I was reading the socials, and you should have seen some of the conspiracy theories that were floating around of why Kamala dropped out of the race. I mean, it was going like all right. So here, white Twitter, my hood was, oh, clearly this is some deal. She's going to be vice president. She's going to, she's working behind the scenes. Maybe that's that's what I heard about Kamala. AG as well. AG was the other one. She's going to be the AG. AG. Yes, yes. I did hear that one. Yeah, that was good too. But they

12:18 caught her fans, and I'm going to use that word correctly, fans off guard because they thought they could limp into South Carolina, really make waves with the black vote, and show their worth. Now, there was one other data point I'm just remembering now. People were leaving her campaign and they were writing public letters of resignation and saying it's a mess and there's no leadership. And then I think right after one of her main boots on the ground campaign managers left for Bernie, I believe. That's when Bloomberg. Oh, Bloomberg. I'm sorry. That's when it all started to fall apart.

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Kimberlé Crenshaw and the Definition of Intersectionality

Kimberlé Crenshaw, the scholar who coined the term "intersectionality," explains it as a prism for understanding how multiple forms of inequality and disadvantage compound. The segment explores how Kamala Harris was constructed as an "intersectionality candidate" designed to appeal to various demographic groups simultaneously. Mo argues that this "quilt" of identities was only as strong as the threads holding it together.

intersectionality· kimberle crenshaw· social justice· feminism· identity politics

13:00 It was 50, 5-0 unnamed sources. But Sonny wasn't trying to hear that because it was continued on where I clip this from. That topic came up and she wasn't trying to hear that like unnamed sources. I mean, like, oh, now the unnamed sources don't mean anything. I mean, we've been for the last three years, we've been going off unnamed sources, but all of a sudden, now, familiar with the matter. Yeah, people familiar with the matter. Yes. So what I was alluding to before was Kamala Harris, and I don't think anybody used this term before, was the intersectionality candidate.

13:42 She was like a quilt put together. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about this even, I think. Yeah, she was the intersectionality candidate. Yes. She's all the all the she ticked all the boxes, man. Yeah, black, female, smart, accomplished, but but a feminist, seen as a feminist, smart, but tough, with a little splash of Indian. She, I mean, she, she had it all. I mean, she was everything to everybody, similar to Obama. When you looked at her, everything to everybody, but it was the multi-culti candidate of the future.

14:23 But that just like a quilt, it's only strong as the threads that hold it together. So, what we're going to talk about now is I have a little background from Miss Kimberlag Crenshaw, and she's the actual, actually, the creator of the term intersectionality, and she's going to explain that for us. Intersectionality is just a metaphor for understanding the ways that multiple forms of inequality are disinfected. disadvantage sometimes compound themselves and they create obstacles that often are not understood within conventional ways of thinking about anti-racism or feminism or whatever social justice advocacy structures we have.

15:06 Intersectionality isn't so much a grand theory. It's a prism for understanding certain kinds of problems. Hmm. So she created the term, but she can't clearly define it. I was going to say, did I miss something or did I just not quite understand what she was saying? Basically, it's something you never think of. It's not logical and it's hard to understand, but it's the problem. So as I always do, I dig for definitions from both sides of the spectrum. And from the right-hand side or the more conservative side, I went to one Mr. Ben Shapiro to define intersectionality force.

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Ben Shapiro Critiques Intersectionality as Victim Olympics

Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro defines intersectionality as a form of identity politics where the value of an opinion depends on one's rank in a hierarchy of victimhood. He describes it as a "merit badge" system for oppressed groups, placing straight white males at the bottom. The discussion posits that Harris had many "merit badges" but failed to connect with voters effectively.

ben shapiro· identity politics· hierarchy· victimhood· conservatism

15:48 Good. 42 seconds and he'll do a minute's worth of talking. You probably think your opinions matter. You probably think you're an individual with unique experiences, thoughts, and ambitions. Well, I hate to break it to you, but according to current leftist orthodoxy, you're wrong. You see, your opinion only matters relative to your identity and where that identity ranks on the hierarchy of intersectionality. If you're now thinking, what the hell are you talking about? You haven't spent much time on a modern college campus. Intersectionality is a form of identity politics in which the value of your opinion depends on how many victim groups you belong to. At the bottom of the totem pole is the person everybody loves to hate, the straight white male. And who's at the top?

16:29 Well, it's very hard to say because new groups claim victim status all the time. No one can keep track. Well, at least I know where I am. That's the good news. I'm one rung up on that ladder for you, sir. So don't feel too bad. Oh, okay. Oh, well, that's good. One rung up without the privilege. So I'm really sorry. I'm happy for you, Mo. So that's what intersectionality is from the conservative side. It's like kind of like the victim Olympics. Yeah. Who can claim the most merit badges? It's a good thing.

17:14 So he goes on to further define or explain how the intersectionality works within the group. How does this intersectionality thing play out? Something like this. Let's say you're a gay white woman. Your opinion matters, but less than that of a gay black woman. Why? Because while all women are oppressed by the patriarchy and all gays are oppressed by the heterosexual majority, blacks have a victim status that whites obviously don't. Of course, a gay black woman's victim status is less than that of a black trans woman who ranks below a black Muslim trans woman and so on. The more memberships you can claim in oppressed groups, the more aggrieved you are and the higher you rank. Get it? Good. Okay. Yeah, you're right. It is merit badges. But hold on a second.

17:58 Kamala Harris had a lot of merit badges. Yes, yes, it did. But she was a jack of all trades, but you know, what's that king of none? How did that statement go? Jack of all trades, master of none. Master of none, yes. So that was her problem. She had almost too many merit badges to be loyal to one thing. She had all the badges, couldn't sell the cookies. Couldn't sell the cookies. Yep. Got it. So we have to figure out how do we get here? Why did the Democrats feel like they needed a intersectionality candidate?

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Symone Sanders and Democratic Party Leadership Diversity

Symone Sanders, a senior advisor for Joe Biden's campaign, argues that white men should not be leading the Democratic Party and calls for more diverse representation at the DNC. The segment critiques the "black female political class" for potentially overinflating their ability to deliver votes. Mo suggests that Harris's failure to increase black voter turnout made her "useless" to the party apparatus.

symone sanders· dnc· howard dean· bernie sanders· joe biden· black women

18:39 So we have to go back to 2016. Miss Simone Sanders, who currently works for Bernie, isn't she with Joe Biden? Oh, no, Joe Biden. I'm so confused. She was with Bernie before. She worked with Bernie in 2016, right? Yeah. Yes. She's going to tell us about the Democratic leadership. Howard Dean, you know, Howard Dean was there for that 50-state strategy, but here's the issue. Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, in my opinion. We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse, and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the top and the highest levels, from the vice chairs to the secretaries, all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC.

19:29 I think we need to have a robust discussion about this. And I think we need to hear more from all the candidates. Jamie Harrison in South Carolina, he's great too. He has done real party building, but everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie and they want to know what it is that he stands for. So I want to hear more from everybody. I'm here for the millennials and the brown folks. folk. You know, she could easily, I think, be a topic for another show. I find her very intriguing. She rubs me the wrong way. I'll tell you that right off the bat. But she's very intrigued. She's very intriguing. She's a very interesting character, and it's amazing how she clamors for non-white male representation. But her two candidates she's worked on is white males. Yeah, that is interesting.

20:14 A lot of these people, they talk out their soda and neck. They don't even believe what they say. If you really think about what she just said, she said that they need to have non-white male representation. And coming out of 2016, I'm going to make this very clear. Everybody listen before they get triggered. The black female political class overinflated their worth to the Democratic Party. We talked about this on a previous show. You mean they're worth a number of votes, you mean?

20:57 Well, I'm talking about the political class. I'm talking about the pundits. I'm talking about the candidates. I got you. Those people. Because you need the vote. And that's what the political class thought they could deliver up to the Democratic Party, which made Kamala the frontrunner for 2020, which made black women come out of 2016 like, see, this is why you need us. Right. Talk about the political class. And they only were further emboldened by 2018 when they had the special election in Mississippi and the Democratic Party lauded them with all the praise.

21:38 And I said this before, and I'll say it again, kind of stroked their ego. And that's why it's so hard now that the carriage has turned back to a pumpkin. And, you know, with Simone Sanders, to me, you know, she talks this big game, but you're right. The only two candidates she's worked for that I know of is Biden and Bloomberg. Bernie. Bernie and Bloomberg. I'm sorry. Was she just a token to be in there? Kind of like, well, you know, you'll handle the black vote. Do you think, is that the vibe you got about her, about her role? I'm going to say this.

22:18 That's what a lot of their jobs are. And people can get pissed off about it, but it's like to the Democratic Party. If you can't bring the black vote, what good are you? That's the problem why Kamala Harris is out of the race right now. They're looking at her like, you had one job. Just be female and black. Can you do that, please? That's it. Because our apparatus will bring you half the country just by natural how politics work. But what we need you to do is bring that 90, 92, 3% black vote

22:58 get it that turnout back to 66% down from 59 in 2016. We need you to give us that 7% uptick and we got this thing. And what she did was not only not be able to deliver to 67%, she might have made it worse. Yeah. And we're going to talk about that even more. But now we come to the part of the show where we really have to go back and we have to talk about the bule. Oh, hell yeah. A word often used around the Curry household.

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Steve Cokley and the Sigma Pi Phi Boule Secret Society

The late Steve Cokley, described as a "futureologist," lectured extensively on Sigma Pi Phi, also known as the Boule, a clandestine society for elite black men. Cokley claimed this group acts as a control mechanism within the black community, similar to the Illuminati or the Trilateral Commission. The rise of YouTube allowed Cokley's archival VHS lectures to reach a modern audience, challenging the group's influence.

steve cokley· sigma pi phi· the boule· secret societies· black elite

23:38 So with the Boule, we have to clearly define it and we have to go back to the source, the man that broke it to the knowledge of this clandestine group to the average black man, Mr. Steve Coakley. And we have now stepped forward to have a discussion about the black male secret society known as Sigma Pi Phi, acronym the Boulet, V-O-U-L-E. We will do our best to show you the information related to the Boulet. That's what this lecture is about. I could give the entire lecture and quote every inch of the documentation without looking at it.

24:23 I know them that well. But this is my responsibility, my night, to show you the information so that you could look at it with me and double affirm the fact that much of our black press, as much as we like it, has not. not been honest in talking about this group of black men, for they respect it very highly and never speak negatively against it. Well, that would be the same collusion we see with all elites in the media. Of course, it's not going to be discussed. So he goes even further in the second clip that we have. When we talk about Boule, we're not just talking about the

25:06 one fraternity that he listed, the Sigma Pi Phi. We're talking about it's a broad network of different groups, similar to Illuminati. You mean you have the Council Formulation, you have the Trilateral Commission, you have, I mean, you have just these different groups that are interconnected by the membership of those groups that form this web. It's the same way in the black community. And that being the Greek fraternities and sororities that make up the quote-unquote larger group of the Boule.

25:47 And all the Greeks, the Alpha, the Kappa, the Omega, and the Sigma. Show you right. The AKA, the Zeta, the Sigma Gamma Rho, and the Delta. They will all be informed publicly. Please do not have a public manifestation of the Greek thing. Don't have a big dinner. Don't have a big reception. Don't put it in the paper that you're coming. Because I suggest to you that we're going to start to visit you at your things. That's right. And ask you to prove your Greek thing on the spot.

26:31 So we make a suggestion that we're in the process of penetrating a group of circles. And that these circles are webs, which are numerous organizations just beyond the bullet. So, Mo, remind us again who Steve Coakley is. Steve Coakley, he was, he's passed away now, was a futureologist. He commented extensively on water conservation, organic farming, and communal living. He gave over 5,000 lectures on the topic of global warming. No, he's a corporate conspiracy. He's a denier. He's a file out of permission. He's a denier.

27:16 And he really spoke about the Bilderberg group, Rothschilds, Rockefellers. And his claim to fame is the Boulet. Joe, Mo, why don't you say he's the black Alex Jones? That's what he is. He just needs a megaphone. Okay, good, good, good, good. And he's the one that really broke the news of the Boulev to the consciousness. And I had this, I made this point before. A lot of this information was captioned on VHS tapes and these small meetings, you know, in back of black bookstores. But when you had YouTube come about, it gave it a platform where it could spread like wildfire.

28:01 Right. Mainly the old VH VHS stuff that he had. That was just being repurposed. Yes, and that's how it caught up to modern day times. I mean, I think when he was doing this, this was like the late 80s, early 90s when he was giving these speeches. But when YouTube came about and people started really getting into conspiracy theories and the Illuminati, then you start searching these things and it became more common knowledge. And that's how I think that's why the Boulet is really having slippage with their control mechanism that they have over the black community because information is the counter to control. Exactly. So these people have been crowned.

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Benjamin Crump Endorses Kamala Harris at Omega Psi Phi

Attorney Benjamin Crump introduced Kamala Harris at an Omega Psi Phi conference, praising her as a "trailblazer" for girls of color. Crump, known for representing the families of Trayvon Martin and Botham Jean, announced he would advise Harris on criminal justice reform. The segment highlights the irony of a civil rights attorney backing a former prosecutor with a controversial record.

benjamin crump· omega psi phi· alpha kappa alpha· criminal justice reform· trayvon martin

28:49 So the reason why I bring up the Boule is not only did she have the feminist backing, she had the corporate Silicon Valley backing, she also had the Boulet backing. So, I mean, it was a perfect combo, perfect combo. All the elements were there. She had everything because even Obama didn't have the Boulet backing. And the reason why I say the Boulet backing is she was a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, which is a black sorority or female sorority. I mean, that's a, that was redundant, but yes, she's a black sorority.

29:32 And she had the, as I say again, she had the backing. backing of all her Greek brothers and sisters, which make up the bullet. And you can hear this support by Mr. Benjamin Crump introducing her at the Omega Sci-Fi Fraternity Inc. conference. When my six-year-old daughter, Brooklyn Zeta Crump, asked me, Daddy, can a woman be the president of the United States? I can look at her from the bottom of my heart and say, yes, you can.

30:11 Because Senator Kamala Harris is now blazing the trail to make this a real possibility for you and all the beautiful little princesses all over America. And for that, we all applaud you, Senator Harris. So that is why at this leadership conference, where we are focused on civic engagement and leadership in the community, that I'm excited

30:49 and appreciative that the senator has asked me to advise her campaign on criminal justice reform to better serve our community. Okay, Ben Crump, lawyer. You discussed him on the show before. Ah, yes. His association with George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin. Okay. The Botham John shooting. He was, I was saying, he's all the major killings. He shows up. He's in the background. But it's funny now. He's willing to work with the prosecutor.

31:33 Whereas he's fought against that. He's fought against law enforcement as a seeker of justice. And now he's all in. Interesting. It's very interesting. So we see how these groups make strange bedfellows. But I'll let Mr. Crump continue in clip two. But it's not just me. She's excited to hear from all of us on how we can better repair a criminal justice system that disproportionately, and Lord knows I know, disproportionately affects our community.

32:10 I hope that you will join me in supporting her and advising her and being open and honest with her on how to make this criminal justice system treat our children more fairly. You see, she's somebody who will listen. We have a lot of leaders who talk down to us, but Senator Kamala Harris will talk to us. And that's so important in these days and times.

32:50 So you can hear him already doing cleanup for her criminal justice pass. Oh, yes, of course, of course. And prosecutor passed. So that's why he's like, she'll listen to us and please be honest with her. And I mean, it just keeps going on and on. But it's which was, which was part of her, now we need to bring it up. It was part of her downfall. And that was the Tulsi Gabbard attack: hey, man, you put all these black guys predominantly in jail for weed. And then you went on the Charlemagne the Guard show and you were laughing about smoking weed, even though you were lying because you were all off with your dates of album releases, etc.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

South Carolina Primary as the Black Vote Litmus Test

South Carolina is identified as the critical litmus test for Democratic candidates due to its large African American population. Mo argues that the black vote is a valuable commodity that should be bartered for specific policy demands rather than given freely. Harris's inability to secure this base before the primary is cited as the primary reason for her campaign's collapse.

south carolina· democratic primary· black vote· political barter· voter turnout

33:31 Well, what Tulsi did was just put dirt on the casket. Kamala was a Kamala was a dead woman walking metaphorically. I say that because out the gate, her campaign was torpedoed. But let's just listen to Mr. Crump and his final clip on Kamala. Brothers and sisters, I introduce to you this trailblazer, this history maker, this lady of Alpha Capital Alpha Sorority Incorporated, this fighter, this front runner, this visionary leader, this

34:19 Shero to all of the girls across America, especially little girls of color, the senator from the great state of California. California, my friend, none other than Senator Kamala Harris, the next president. A shiro. A Shero. She's a Shero. I hadn't heard that one. I'm like, Shero. Shiro. Shiro. Okay. So she had all the backing. She got all the Greek backing. She, I mean, they're all, they're, they're all in for it because they know they're like, this thing is ready to go. It's like, it's like, Mo, if you and I were running this campaign, we'd be like, what did we do wrong?

35:04 We had everything in place, all the pieces of the puzzle. That's why it was such a kick in the stomach for her to resign because it was unbelievable. Even if she struggled out the gate, it was always a belief, oh, we can correct this thing. If we just get to South Carolina, I'll keep bringing up South Carolina because South Carolina is the litmus test for the black vote. And why is this? I'm not familiar with this. Because it has a huge black population and it's one of the first Democratic primaries and a large African African, an estate with a large African-American, I can't even say the words, African-American

35:48 population. Okay, got it. So it's like they take the litmus test and say, okay, this is, because it is our vote, whether we realize it or not, it's very valuable to the Democratic Party. Right. We don't realize that. And that's my hope. I'm going to drum. I'm going to beat this drum until you're saying until it won't be anymore. That's why we have to barter our vote for what our demands are. And that's how politics work. But Kamala, she makes her announcement at Howard University, her almater. And she's surrounded by all her sisters from the AKA. And the view covers it.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

The AKA "Ski-Wee" Call and Media Cultural Ignorance

A Washington Post reporter was criticized for describing the Alpha Kappa Alpha (AKA) "Ski-Wee" call as "screeches" during a Kamala Harris event at Howard University. Sunny Hostin and Whoopi Goldberg on The View defended the sorority's tradition, comparing the misunderstanding to a novice at a Bruce Springsteen concert thinking fans are booing. The segment explores the power dynamics of black sororities in politics.

alpha kappa alpha· howard university· sunny hostin· whoopi goldberg· bruce springsteen

36:33 I'm sorry. Sorry, the AKA. Yes, that's Alpha California. Oh, that's her sorority. Okay. Sorority. Oh, the View. Of course, they're all over it. Since diversity in the media is a hot topic, shockingly. After White House Washington Post reporter Chelsea James covered Senator Kamala Harris's speech at Harris's alma mater at Howard University. Now, the speech was attended by the AKA sorority that Harris pledged in college, who gave her their trademark ski wee call. And it prompted the reporter to tweet, members of her Howard sorority are in the room and screeched when she mentioned her time there.

37:15 Did not expect to hear screeches there. She was immediately kind of called out on social media for not knowing about the ski wing. So the question is, was she the right person to cover the event? Was the reporter the right person to cover the event? Is that the question? Yes. They had the wrong shill. Didn't follow the memo? That was a demand. That was a, you need to have black coverage of our black candidate. That's what this message was being sent. You're not culturally

38:01 knowledgeable. You're just doing it wrong. You're just doing it wrong. Right. You don't know. And this was the constant flexing of the political class, bule class saying they really were just like really flexing their muscles and making demands so much so. So now we have Sonny from the original clip, the one that's very perturbed and pissed off about Kamala losing. This is when Kamala first made her announcement and listen to what she has to say about it.

38:39 I mean, to put it into context, right? I'm a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Today is our Founders Day. That's why I'm wearing a sweatshirt that says 1908. I thought, ah, maybe you were born for a second. Yeah, no, 1908 is when we were founded. Today is our Founder's Day. We were founded 111 years ago. We're the first black sorority that was founded. Ski! That was not a great one because my voice is... And what was shocking to me was if you are the reporter following Kamala Harris, then at Howard University where our sorority was founded, you should know that she's a member. You should know that that is our sorority call that we want pink and green. She did know that. She must not have. I thought she said she just didn't know the screech. I don't know.

39:22 She said members of her sorority, I mean. you would think skiwis are cold. I could say where you might not know that little detail. I mean, not every reporter knows every single thing. But the entire room is doing it. I would remember just to try to. I mean, this is something that I think you should know. Michelle Obama is an AKA. I mean, this is not rocket science. And the interesting thing is, and the reason there is an AKA is because black women weren't allowed to join white sororities in 1908. Oh, this is fascinating. Okay, let me give you an analogy for the screech. The first time you go to a Bruce Springsteen concert. No, I don't know if you've ever been, Mo, but you go to a Bruce Springsteen concert, and the first time, and everyone goes through this, you hear, wow, man, they're booing him.

40:10 Oh, my God, they're booing him, but they're not. They're saying, Bruce, Bruce. And if you don't know, then you don't know. And then you can misinterpret that. So this reporter went, and I have to say, if you're going to cover the Bruce Springsteen of Black Politics, Female Black Politics, you should know what the Screech is about for sure. I will have to give her a pass for the simple fact. I'm sure she knew she was a member of AKA, but I'm sure it was jarring to hear a room full of women. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, if you're a reporter and you're reporting on Bruce Springsteen and you don't know that going in, then you're an idiot.

40:55 Then you haven't done your homework. So that goes for this reporter as well. Because at least you could associate Bruce with a boo. It's like something that you can they're booing. Yeah. But if you just hear a room full of women start screeching, and if you notice, Whoopi had to correct Joy because Joy says screech too. Yeah. She's like, no, no, no, ski wee. Because they don't want, trust me, these women have power. And if I come up missing next week, you know where to start looking? I'm going straight to Michelle Obama right off the bat. Hey, hey, what you doing, my man? And just to make sure, I just want to reiterate: Mo is not thinking of suicide.

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Joy Reid and the Russian Black Bot Theory

On MSNBC, Joy Reid suggested that social media accounts questioning Kamala Harris's heritage were "Russian bots" or disinformation agents. This theory was used to dismiss the ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement's legitimate critiques of Harris's record. Mo characterizes this as a "believable lie" designed to protect Harris from losing black support.

joy reid· msnbc· russian bots· ados· disinformation· social media

41:40 He's of sound mind. He does not want to disappear. Very happy man. I don't have a hot tub and I don't fly in the middle of the day. No small, no small planes, not a good idea. No, don't go canoeing around DC. Okay, good. We're straight. So you can see that she had the bullet support. Yeah. Now, this is an oldie but goodie, but we have to, it's part of the fabric of this quilt of Kamala Harris. Was the black bots claim? Oh, yes. That with the, that was on Joy Reed. Oh, that's this clip. There we go.

42:22 So it's the indication that they are, they are someone who was born in, you know, as a descendant in the United States, who is representing black America and has the vernacular and the language that people would believe is someone who's a part of our community, who's either debating about Camilla or debating about Booker because that's who just announced and trying to say, we know who's the most, you know, who's black in America and making sure that they are, you know, sort of talking in this vernacular that makes it look like that they are in supply of American. Yeah. Yeah. And we, I mean, I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when it came to what Camilla Harris announced. It's like it just dropped like a bomb. It just happened really quickly. And she was accused of being not

43:07 really black. Not really black. And that kept going. You could see that happening. But actually, there was an uptick of those bots just before she was about to announce. So they were preparing for her announcement. Yeah, that was pretty egregious, man. That was pretty lame when they came up with that. If you have a pen close, make a small note of this moment because it's going to be very important later in the show. Important. Important. Okay. Important. Important. Yes. All right. So this is why I said Kamala campaign was a corpse, a walking corpse from the very beginning.

43:47 Because as soon as she announced the ADOS crowd, the educated black political crowd that wasn't following for Obama 2.0 attacked. And they tried to explain that way with Russian bots and all this different. It was bizarre. It was because I remember, and this is how you and I kind of got connected when this stuff was taking place. It was such a bizarre lie. Everybody, I mean, Ados was not. was not an unknown entity. Even I was catching on to it. It was not an unknown entity, yet they decided to, right then and there, to say, no, this is just bots.

44:28 It's probably the Russians. You know, they're just trying to muck it up. It was very bizarre that they went that far on the Joy Reid show. Well, they had to give a believable lie where the Democratic Party would believe it. And they were believing anything with Russian bots. Right. I mean, you can just say anything was a Russian bot and they would buy it. So that was them buying time because without the black support, I'll say this again. She's useless to the Democratic Party. If you can't get that number from 59 to 67% turnout, you're useless. Yes. And she's found that out now.

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

The Grio Interview and the "Lyft Act" Failure

During an interview with The Grio, Kamala Harris was pressed on her support for reparations. She proposed the "Lyft Act," a tax credit for families making under $100,000, rather than race-specific policies. Mo critiques the use of the word "lift," comparing it to Barack Obama's "rising tide lifts all boats" rhetoric, which many black voters felt failed to address systemic disparities.

the grio· byron allen· reparations· lyft act· barack obama

45:10 But as with anything, it went from bad to worse. So Kamala does this interview with the Griot, which that's important about the clip because. Now tell me about the Griot. In hindsight, it's owned by God's name to slip my mind. Byron Allen. Oh, okay. Yes, Byron Allen. So in hindsight, it makes sense. I didn't understand why the Grio was pressing us, Kamala, so hard. But like I said, this is right when the election, right when her campaign started, and she's questioning about her support for reparations.

45:54 Do you support reparations for black people? Well, listen, again, we had over 200 years of slavery. We had Jim Crow for almost a century. We had legalized discrimination and segregation, and now we have segregation and discrimination that is not legal but still exists and is a barrier to progress. We have disparities around housing. We have disparities around education. We have disparities around income. And we have to recognize that everybody did not start out on an equal footing in this country.

46:32 And in particular, black people have not. And so we have got to recognize that and do something about that and give folks a lift up. That's why, for example, I'm proposing the Lyft Act. Give people who are making $100,000 or less as a family a tax credit, which will benefit and uplift 60% of black families who are in poverty. Right. Along with a whole bunch of people who don't fall into the category of reparations, which is always the problem with these programs. Exactly. And if we were going to form a consulting group for politicians, Adam, the Curry Facts consulting group, never,

47:17 ever use the word lift in your anything. Explain the concerning black people. Explain. I'm going to explain it. Obama tried this. A rising tide lifts all boats. That dog don't hunt no more. Right, because now was this a big campaign promise from Obama towards African Americans? That was his pacification mechanism. I'm going to do something for everybody. You know, I mean, we're all going to, it's kind of like if I have zero dollars, you have $100, I'm going to give everybody $100.

48:03 People still have $200 more. You still have $100 more than me. But this is a talking point. And never ever use it. For anybody out there that's going to run for office and you're trying to talk to so-called quote-unquote black people, never ever use the word lips. And that's tide. And that's because Obama rising. Obama used it and it failed massively. It failed massively and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And we have, I have a clip of Mr. John Kasich. He speaks on the rising tide. But here's the thing that I believe: economic growth is not an end unto itself. We have to make sure that everybody has a sense that they can rise. Of course, our friends in the Hispanic community, our friends in the African-American community.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

Kamala Harris Rejects Race-Specific Policies

In a viral clip, Kamala Harris stated she would not implement policies that "only benefit black people," arguing that what benefits black families benefits all of society. Mo identifies this moment as the "curtain call" for her campaign, as it alienated the pro-reparations ADOS base. The segment concludes that Harris "fumbled the bag" by failing to offer tangible benefits to her core demographic.

reparations· universal policy· identity politics· black families· campaign strategy

48:48 The promise of America is that our system, when we follow the right formula, is going to give opportunity for everyone. It's what Jack Kemp used to say: a rising tide lifts all boats, not just some boats, but all boats. Yeah. And it didn't work out for him either. No, no. Okay. Yes. It went from bad to worse. It went from bad to batter, if that's a word. It is now. Yeah. And then she had her, when keeping it real goes wrong, moment of the election. You were watching when keeping it real goes wrong. So by default, it affects black families, but there's not a particular policy for African Americans that you would explore.

49:34 But no, if you look at the reality of who will benefit from certain policies, when you take into account that they're not starting at the same place and they're not starting on equal footing, it will directly benefit black children, black families, black homeowners. Because the disparities are so significant. So if we focus on the specific issues that have resulted in the greatest disparities, and we understand that that's part of why we're doing it. Listen, the reality also is this: any policy that will benefit black people will benefit all society.

50:12 Let's be clear about that. Let's really be clear about that. So I'm not going to sit here and say I'm going to do something that's only going to benefit black people. No, because whatever benefits that black family will benefit that community and society as a whole and the country. Right? No. Wrong. I think she missed the whole idea of the whole campaign. Wrong. Wrong. Thank you for coming out. God bless you. Good night. Campaign was over at that moment. And that was. I cannot believe she said that. Which interview was that? Did that really get a lot of traction?

50:52 That was traction. It went viral. Just a little clip. No. No. Okay. So that was immediate near out. It just confirms everything that was suspected about her. She's not going to do it, especially from the ADOS pro-reparations crowd. How do you not? That's an easy question. The question was: I support reparations. Are you going to do anything? I could have answered that properly. Yeah, yeah, I know. Of course, it's just for Ados, not for the whole world. A rising tide lifts all yachts.

51:34 I mean, boats. Tongue in cheek, as a throwback to the last show, Mary Ann Williams has looked blacker than Kamala Harris. She does. You're right. Yeah. You can't do that. And like I said, that was it. The bullet, the political class, they did everything to try to breathe life back into her. But that was her curtain call. And how long ago was this? When exactly did this take place? Do you remember? That was right after her announcement. Oh, brother. Oh, okay. Well, she's just out of the gate. She had no chance. From the first, when she announced, it was like one attack.

52:17 And I use that word just like loosely, attack, but like it was like, boom, she got hit with the when she was virtue signaling. Yeah. Let me go back to Howard with my aka sisters and show how black I am. And then you go on the Grion interview and she asks you specifically, what are you going to do for black people? You give this all, a rising tide lifts all both answer. And then you double down with a no. I never do anything for black people. Yeah. What a moron. She couldn't sell the cookies. No. I mean, yes, she could not.

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

Hubris and the Comparison to Obama's Strategy

The discussion compares Harris's failed strategy to Barack Obama's more successful navigation of identity politics. While Obama was vague but inclusive, Harris's specific rejections of black-centered policies were seen as idiotic. The hosts suggest Harris may have become "lazy" due to the lack of scrutiny in California's one-party political environment.

barack obama· california politics· political strategy· hubris· pandering

53:02 This campaign was hers to lose, and she lost it. There's a common saying in the woke community of she fumbled the bag. The bag means you have the money. And she fumbled it. She had it. She had everything going. All she had to do was just keep her mouth shut and say, yes, yes, yes, I'm going to do something. Not even quantify it, not even qualify it. Yes, I'm going to do something. Do you think that knowing that she's, you know, that her, she's not African-American, she's Indian Jamaican. Do you think that the African-Americans were just waiting for her to actually fumble the bag?

53:42 Do you think that that, I mean, could she actually have ever taken it all the way to the end zone? I mean, it's very hard because she's apparently not that impressively smart. It's not easy to go through the whole thing, pander to everybody, and not trip up on this. Do you think that with people just waiting for her to trip up? There was a segment that just didn't like her because she resembled Obama too much. And I'll, in, in all fairness to her, she was burdened with everything Obama did wrong. Of course. I will give you that. Right, but she was banking on it. But she was banking on it at the same time.

54:21 So, with the good comes the bad. Yeah. You can't take the, like you said, you can't take the good without the bad. But the mistakes she made were so idiotic. And I think it has to be hubris. I mean, she has to be intelligent, I mean, in some form of the word to make it to where she's made it in life. Ooh, well, I think that she just got lazy, Mo. I think things are very easy for her in California. I think she just walked in and out of her position, and it was just made easy for her. She didn't have to have her guard up all the time, and she wasn't under so much scrutiny. That's the only conclusion I can, again, I don't know. Maybe she's just not that impressively smart.

55:06 Maybe she's just dumb. Me and you are podcasters, me even less than you. What I mean by that is I'm a noob. If I ask you, hey, Adam, are you going to do something for black people when it comes to reparations? Am I running now or am I podcasting? You're running. You're running. Well, of course. Of course, we could do something for reparations, but only for Ados. Vote for me. She didn't say, well, we're going to do, I'm going to do everything I can. She said, no. Yeah. I think it was kind of done after that. You're right. No, no, no. We do it for all. Well, that was her whole lift.

55:50 Oh, my God. I can see all the mistakes now so clearly. It was actually, you're right. It was called the Lyft Act. Oh, what an idiot. Yes. So the wait, so they actually took a known failed idea from Obama and repromoted it. A known failed idea. That's a head shaker. I can't, it blows me away. I can't get my hand. It's like she threw the fight. I mean, that's the only reason I can like, like, she didn't want to really do this. Like, I'm like, I'm cool with not being president. I really don't want to do. But it was gift wrap to her. Yeah. But the bullet went to overdrive and overtime to

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

Roland Martin Defends Harris Against "Black Self-Hate"

Journalist Roland Martin attacked critics of Kamala Harris, labeling their questioning of her heritage as "black self-hate cloaked in black self-love." He defended her background as an HBCU graduate and dismissed concerns about her being a descendant of immigrants rather than slaves. Martin also criticized Donald Trump Jr. for amplifying memes questioning Harris's blackness.

roland martin· donald trump jr· hbcu· blackness· birtherism

56:35 pull her across, trying to pull this political corpse across the finish line. Drag the body. Here we are. Just drag the body. And they blamed it on her lack of blackness. One being Mr. Roland Martin. Donald Trump Jr. is Fredo, and he clearly can't read a bio. All he has to do is go read the bio of Senator Kamala Harris. Then you'll understand her background. And so he is probably the dumbest of all the Trump children. But here's the real issue here: the attacks on Senator Kamala Harris's blackness really started the moment she announced. And where it's really coming from, this is black self-hate cloaked in black self-love.

57:18 There are people out there who are saying that because she is not a descendant of slaves, she really can't speak to the black experience. They dismiss the fact that she went to the HBCU. They dismiss her actual background. And that's what the real issue here. There are black people out there who are angry that they say who say Obama didn't do enough for African Americans. And what they're not doing is demanding really policy questions. They're questioning her blackness. You may have some fools out there who are black, especially a lot of black men who are criticizing her because her husband is white. And so I understand that folks are talking about Donald Trump Jr. retweeting this, but really you've got some asinine black folks out there who are the ones who are questioning her blackness and they are shameful and they are despicable and then they should be called out at every turn.

58:09 Oh man, including this black man here in Texas. I was all over that. Shameful. Shameful that I called her out on it. My goodness. That was Roland. What's this? Who's that again? That's the Roland Martin. Oh, yeah. That's the one that gave the questions to Donna Brazil. Oh, yeah. And then Donna Brazil gave it to Hillary. Yes. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, there's your bullet right there. And he's a Greek. Just for the record. I mean, so there you have it. So even Don Lemon starts to have questions about Kamala Harris being an African-American.

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

The Breakfast Club and the Canadian Upbringing Meme

Kamala Harris addressed memes on The Breakfast Club that claimed she was not African American because she was raised in Canada by immigrant parents. Harris clarified she was born in Oakland and only lived in Montreal during high school. She compared the scrutiny to the "birther" attacks against Barack Obama, calling it an attempt to sow division.

the breakfast club· charlamagne tha god· montreal· oakland· immigrants

58:49 So, April, listen, the only black woman in the 2020 campaign is fielding questions about race. And I just want to play off for you what Kamala Harris said to the Breakfast Club when she was asked about how people on social media are questioning if she's African-American. Another meme says, Kamala Harris is not African-American. Her parents were immigrants from India and Jamaica, and she was raised in Canada, not the United States. And they said, fat. That's what the meme said. So I was born in Oakland. Yeah. And raised in the United States, except for the years that I was in high school in Montreal, Canada. And look, this is the same thing they did to Barack. Yes. This is not new to us.

59:31 And so I think that we know what they're trying to do. They're trying to do what has been happening over the last two years, which is powerful voices trying to sow hate and division among us. And so we need to recognize when we're being played. Wow. You know, my sister, Tiffany, not only born in Uganda, but also her middle name is Nankia. You can't get much more African than that. And still, not a black woman. And that's basically the same argument Kamala made, except for a brownish tint of skin. Well, I was born in Oakland. That says it all. And Colin, Charlamagne Nagard,

1:00:14 he reads the tweet. It says, and I'm going off memory here. It says, her parents were immigrants. I think that's true. She was raised in Canada. That's loose with the facts, but factually based. But she did grow in America last week. And she's not African-American in the sense of the word of African-American. No, she's not. Because we had this conversation before where black switched to African-American, which both meant ADOS when used in a certain context. But these people play dumb. These very smart people play dumb.

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Don Lemon and April Ryan Debate "African American" Identity

CNN's Don Lemon and April Ryan engaged in a heated debate over whether Kamala Harris is "African American" or simply "black." Lemon argued there is a distinction based on lineage (ADOS), while Ryan insisted Harris's blackness should be sufficient. Mo praises Lemon for maintaining the distinction and notes Ryan's recent induction into the Delta Sigma Theta sorority as a sign of her "Boule" alignment.

don lemon· april ryan· cnn· african american· ados· delta sigma theta

1:00:59 And then Don Lemon in the next clip presses April Ryan on the African-American thing. Yes, it's a classic clip. I love this one. What do you make of her answer, April? It's good for her. You know, there's a lot to unpack here. Number one, what does black enough mean? Can someone give me a definition of what black enough is? I don't want to go down the road of the stereotype when people say we're black. Number one, she is a black woman. She's a mixed race woman. When you see her, you see her blackness, but she is also South Asian. Her mom is South Asian and her dad is Jamaican. April, April, April. Let me listen. More power to her. And I think it's great. That should be enough.

1:01:42 It is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they did the same thing. No, no, no, no, no. I think you're not hearing what people are saying. The people who are saying, is she black enough? That's bold. That's BS. But I want a distinction to say, is she African-American or is she black or is she whatever? There is nothing wrong with that. There is a difference between being African-American and being black. People, Latino people are people of color, but they're not black. They're brown people. She is a woman of color, but she is a black woman. Okay, that's why. I agree with that. I agree with that. But is she African-American? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:02:24 But is she African-American? There is a difference. There's nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to take anything away from her. I think you're falling. I think you're falling into a trap of that. All she had to do was say, I am black, but I'm not African-American. And I got a lot of respect for Don Lemon for doing this, which is probably the main reason I still put up with him. Is for this clip. How did that go over in the black community? I mean, I'm sure it must have been divided. Some people like, well, that's crap or not. I don't know. I mean, to me, and this is, of course, after you and I had been talking for a while, like, yeah, go, Don Lemon. You're absolutely right. You're calling it, and April Ryan is pushing back like a weasel.

1:03:07 I can only speak for me. Don gained a lot of integrity points because he could have easily snowballed it over like Charlemagne did. Right. And, you know, and just kind of went with the flow. But nah, he was like, nah, like, she's not African-American from the sense of the word that you're trying to use it. And April Ryan, let me just give you a little factoid about her. On July 11, 2019, she was inducted as an honorary member of Delta Sigma Theta, sorority. Oh, isn't that special? Kind of late in life to be like, she was in, she was shepherded in. She was brought into the fam. Very nice.

1:03:49 Yeah, to the sisterhood. He was like, welcome to the club. So just to let you know, I mean, they were dragging this corpse as far as it would go because. because they had a lot rotting on Kamala. If they get her into the White House, they have the access that they didn't have with Obama. Right. Because Obama's like, I don't need you guys. I don't need your bule. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like, my wife is in it, but I mean, I mean, he was in a whole different power structure, tapped into a whole different power structure. So he didn't really need these guys. Where if they made and created the candidate like they would have to do with Kamala, she would be, you know, she would owe them one and then they could cash in their favors.

1:04:30 So this is why they were so tied to her and her winning. But really, that was April Ryan was just the last sputtering gasp of reality slipping away there. That was, and it was over by then, and she just put another nail in the coffin, really, or with Don. And yeah, and when you have Don Lemon checking you on blackness, that's funny. Wow, man. You got Don Lemon checking you on blackness. Things are bad. Yeah, just for who he, for the gaps he's made on social media when it comes to the conversation, that's real bad for April. So

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Uncle Luke and the "Fried Chicken" Certification

Luther Campbell, also known as Uncle Luke, discussed his initial skepticism of Kamala Harris regarding her marriage to a white man and her prosecutorial record. However, he later claimed to "certify" her after a conversation where they bonded over fried chicken. The hosts mock this as a shallow, "obsolete trick" used by politicians to perform cultural authenticity.

uncle luke· luther campbell· fried chicken· soul food· al sharpton

1:05:11 now, one of the black men that had made comments about Kamala Harris being married to a white man and how that went over was Uncle Luke. Are you familiar with Uncle Luke? No. Uncle Luke. Tula crew. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know, it's interesting you say, because I was going to say, it's either Luke Skywalker or Luke Campbell. What's Uncle Luke? Is he also Campbell? Yeah, he's also Campbell. Skywalker Campbell. Yeah, Skywalker. Yes. Yeah, I'm from MTV. I know these guys. We used to hang. Yeah, I know you know. I was just going to see if we used to hang. Wow.

1:05:55 Seriously, I hung with him outside a Broadway video in New York, and they were coming in, and I was going out, and then we just like chatting for a bit on the street. It was bizarre. So I don't know what makes him a political pundit, but he was one of the guys that were, he wrote an article about Kamala Harris, the support for her in the black, quote-unquote, black community, and her being married to a white guy, which is a valid point. Not to me personally, but it has to be talked about because just imagine if Obama was married to a white woman, would he have the same support? I don't think so. So, I mean, it's a valid point of conversation.

1:06:38 Does it matter? Not really, but I think it should be, it's fair game to have a conversation about. But even he had to bow down to Kamala. If you're not in the game and you're just sitting on the sideline, you really don't understand the difference, the nuances and the struggles of trying to do the right thing for our people. When I wrote the article about you, you know, and I just outlined everything that every black man in the barbershop, black woman would talk about in the conversations. And I always go back to it because basically everything that everybody was saying about you, what did she black enough?

1:07:20 Does she like black men? She's putting black people in jail. You know, the common things that was actually said. But at the same time, I write that. And I didn't have a conversation with you. When we had the conversation and we talked about it, we talked about the different things. It was almost, and after the conversation, I feel like I was actually certifying you because we were talking about fried chicken and talking about all these different things. Wow. Wow. Wow. And we talked about fried chicken. So I certified you. It's good. It's all good. She lied chicken. So you. Oh, that's some racist shit right there. This is how low they think of us.

1:08:05 Damn. That's horrible. He had valid points when he wrote the article because she was locking up black men. She is married to a white man. She's not African American by the definition that we're using it. But yeah, we bonded over fried chicken. So it's all good. Hey. You know, I've never seen her husband. And to the end, he was not on the campaign anywhere. He was not involved. In fact, I didn't even know if she was married at all. Honestly, I didn't even think about it. So they hit him. Yes, exactly.

1:08:47 And that wasn't by happenstance either. They were like, you stay in the car. You go get the fried chicken sandwich that Kamala's going to eat, and that's your job. Right. Yeah. And this is what they did with her. I mean, even her and Al Shard talking with Sylvia tired of Sylvia is like, oh, yeah, let's take a eat some soul food and show them, you know, you're down. It's like, what in the hell is going on here? I mean, that doesn't work. As you're going to see later on the show, they have a bunch of these obsolete tricks that they've been running from the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, and they just don't work anymore.

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Kamala Harris and Mindy Kaling Cook Masala Dosa

In a campaign video, Kamala Harris cooked masala dosa with actress Mindy Kaling to appeal to the Indian American community. The segment notes that Harris was part of "The Quint," a group of five Indian-descended members of Congress. Mo argues that Harris's "intersectional" jumping between identities made her appear disingenuous to various groups.

mindy kaling· masala dosa· indian american· south indian· the quint

1:09:27 But Kamala, she just can't get out of her own way. I found this clip of her cooking with Mindy Kaling. And that's the lady, the Indian lady from the office. Okay. And she's on a cooking show? Yes. They're cooking masala dosa. Oh, okay. That's which is an Indian dish. Can't wait to hear this. Is it respectful to call? I should be calling you Senator Harris, right? No, you should not. That's not on my birth certificate. Okay. Kamala Harris, yes, please. Okay, because the Indian and me, I feel like my parents, my dad will watch that.

1:10:09 Just don't call me Auntie. Okay. I won't call you Auntie. They'll be like, how could you call her by her first name? She's worked so hard. Okay, so what we're going to cook today is an Indian recipe. Yes, because you are idiots. Yes. Okay. And I don't know that everybody knows that, but I find that wherever I go and I see Indian people at the supermarket on the street, everyone's like, you know, Kamala Harris is Indian, right? It's like our thing we're so excited about to have you running for president. Yeah. So we are both Indian, but actually we're both South Indian. Yes. You look like the entire one half of my family. Now, I think that this was a last-ditch effort somewhere to get some poll numbers up because I remember reading an article about Kamala trying desperately to appeal to the Indian American population to just get her numbers up.

1:10:59 And, you know, it's obvious she could do that and witness this interview. And I found, as I was doing some digging, I found some interesting facts. One on YouTube, they had under the AP archives, they have Indian congresswoman sworn in by Joe Biden. And that is Kamala Harris. And I'm sure you heard of the squad. Yes, well, of course. Have you ever heard of the Quint? The Quint? No, I had not heard of the Quint. Yes. That was the five Indian congresspeople that were elected into office, and she was one of them.

1:11:41 Oh, I didn't know this. How embarrassing. So she was playing this weird trick. Like I said, she was the intersectional candidate, but she wasn't loyal to one thing. So that was her downfall. In the black quote-unquote community, the black quote-unquote black community, however you want to, where you want to put the quotes at, when you classify yourself as something other than black, that's no good. No, and Obama was very aware of this. Yeah, it seems, yeah, and Obama played it much smarter.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Tiger Woods and the "Cablinasian" Controversy

The discussion revisits Tiger Woods's 1997 invention of the term "Cablinasian" to describe his multi-ethnic heritage. Stephen A. Smith recently noted that Woods does not identify as black, sparking a conversation about the "one-drop rule." Dr. Yaba Blay explains on CNN that the one-drop rule was historically a legal tool to protect white racial purity.

tiger woods· cablinasian· one-drop rule· stephen a smith· chappelle's show

1:12:25 It was also very confusing. You know, was he from Indonesia? Was he from Kenya? Was he from Hawaii? You know, there was just a lot of noise out there. But Kamala, you know, it's really interesting. She had everything except the one thing that she was lying about, which is her actual background. She just kept it black. Yeah. It'd have been fine. Because one thing about black people, they're very inclusive. And that's why when you classify yourself as non-black, anything other than black, it's not well received. And we saw this with Tiger Woods when he said he wasn't black.

1:13:06 You know that moment when you're thinking something, then someone comes out and just boldly says it. Yeah, it was one of those because it looked like Stephen A slipped up and said Tiger wasn't black. Well, we don't know what Tiger Woods believes. He's Camplin Asian. He's not black. When he got arrested, he was black. He was listed as black on the report. So let's understand that. But did you really get it? Listen again. Well, we don't know what Tiger Woods believes. He's Camplin Asian. He's not black. He's not black. He's not black. He's not working. The way he moved on so quickly from he's not black to the one drop rule tells me that it was a Freudian slip. But on a lighter note, I guess this means Comedy Central will have to reinstate the Chappelle show to do over the racial draft because Tiger Woods was drafted to be black. delegation.

1:13:58 No surprises there. It's not looking like we'll get any more of this anytime soon. So long, Fried Rice. Hello, Fried Checker. So, if you had asked me on any given day, I've, of course, not looked into his background. I would have said, yeah, Tiger was black to me. But let's hear more about him. Well, he didn't identify as not being black. He identified as Campbell Asian or what? Kabul Asian? Yeah, which is an amalgamation of Kablination, which is Caucasian Black American Indian Asian.

1:14:38 Because I listened to it as I was hearing that clip. I'm like, did he say Kamala Nation? That's what it sounded like to me. Like, Kamala Nation. Wow, that's interesting. No, Kablination. So he's a mixture of stuff. Yeah, so he was basically, he got canceled for that. Because, I mean, we drafted him in the race draft. But when he came out that statement, he got canceled. And it's this weird thing called the one-drop rule. I mean, we talked about it on the show before. So this is a throwback clip. We had Dr. Yaba Blay on CNN with Don Lemon, and she explains the one-drop rule.

1:15:15 Explain what the one-drop rule is. The one-drop rule, historically, also known as the rule of hypo-descent, was really instituted to protect whiteness. It was a way for the white majority to be able to name and cite who was white. So it was one drop, which is one 30 second. 132nd of Negro or African blood would make that person Negro or African, whatever the classification they used at the time. I hear people say we're in a post-racial society. The reality is, in order to get beyond something, you have to understand it, right? And where in your education, where have you been required to learn about race? They don't teach it. No. It is the foundation of this country. We have to talk about race.

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Transition from "Negro" to "Black" and the ADOS Movement

Mo and Adam discuss the linguistic shift from "Negro" to "Black" in the late 1960s, noting it was a media-driven transition. They advocate for the term ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) as a more accurate ethnic descriptor than the color-based "black." A clip from YouTuber Chronicles of Judah argues that "black" is a color, not a race, and that the one-drop rule is a white supremacist ideology.

ados· negro· black power· racial identity· chronicles of judah

1:15:56 We have to talk about racial difference. It is just a flat-out lie for us to believe that we've moved beyond race. Right. And we remember this, the one-drop rule. Yeah. So that's why I'm always careful when I say black or I say quote-unquote black or referred to as a community because black is not a race. No, African-American is a race. Ados. Yes, that's why I was excited about the term Adolf because it's more accurate than the term black. And I was talking to my mom. I was like, mom, when do we become black? Because she was like, it was around like the seven, late 60s, 60s, mid-60s, early 70s, because before we were referred to an

1:16:42 intra-group as Negro. Negroes, yeah. That was the term, but then it was too close. So then they came up with black and then black morphed into American, which is like these brands. It's like, I mean, it's not a culture. It's a brand. Right. And I would say that the brand black probably came about through entertainment in the 70s. Because, you know, that's when we had really black people on TV in the movies. You know, we had Cleopatra Jones and we had Daniel Shaft and all, you know, black, black, black. So that was, and it was being positioned that way, I'm sure. I mean, I lived it. So it had an impact. Like our last show, the black exploitation movies.

1:17:23 I mean, the media, I mean, it was pushed through the media and it kind of kind of stuck. But one of my go-to YouTubers, Chronicles of Judah, he has his take. I want you to hear his take on so-called black people. Black is not a race. And a lot of so-called black people, and I'll probably be covering this in another video. A lot of fake pro-blacks and liberal blacks are upset with Tiger Woods for stating that he's Kablin Asian. First off, whenever you're dealing with people who have multiple lineages in regards to racial lines, there's always going to be an inward struggle within them. So-called black people, I've said this in the past. American blacks love to act as if they're going to liberate people in regards to their racial understanding.

1:18:05 And so-called American blacks have the lowest level of racial understanding of any race. Our people are the only people who try to force everyone else to accept that their race is a color, and they have no idea what the hell they're talking about ever in life on that subject. This is what liberal blacks and pro-blacks do. This is why I always tell you, brothers, pro-blacks are really pro-white. They take the so-called white man's ideologies and they try to blackenize them. The so-called Caucasians stated that if you have quote unquote one drop of black blood, that means that you're black, quote unquote. And what pro-blacks do is they try to enforce that on our people as opposed to saying that's not correct. All right, now I'm confused. Now I don't know what to think. to think.

1:18:47 It's about culture, not color. And that's the reason why I brought this up: this is the problem that Kamala ran into. It's just not something you could put on like a jacket and say, oh, I'm black. I mean, no, there's nuance to conversations. That's like saying white. You got to have been to the barbecue. Right. And it's just like when you go to German, when you go to Europe, you say you're white. Like, what part of Europe are you from? Are you German? Are you British? And that's why I put that clip in here because that's why I was so excited about Ados

1:19:27 because it clearly identified who we are and it separated us from this monolithic black. And I'm not a big fan of the word black because, and can I get a theremin, please, for this next clip? Oh, well, you're calling in the big guns here. Hold on. You know we're going, Wookiee. And when the theremin gets pulled out. All righty. All right. So we have Miss Alizon Psychic. And she explains, she's a white witch.

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Alizon the White Witch on the Color Black

A psychic and "white witch" named Alizon explains the metaphysical meaning of the color black, describing it as the absence of light and an absorber of energy. She warns that wearing too much black can be "draining and depressing" but notes it can enhance other colors. The hosts use this as a metaphorical bridge to discuss the psychological impact of racial labels.

alizon psychic· white witch· color theory· magic· psychology

1:20:10 White, not color white is in the type of magic she does. She explains the color black. Hello there. I'm Alizon from Alizon PsychicSecrets.com. I'm a white witch, spellcaster, and psychic. I want to talk about the color black and its meaning. Black is not strictly a color, as it is the absence of all color. It absorbs all aspects of light. Black is viewed as a mysterious, secretive, and hidden color and has many negative connotations.

1:20:48 Black can be very protective for people suffering from low self-esteem, low moods, or other mental health issues. They use the color black to protect them from the outside world and hide away their true feelings and emotions. Great care should be taken not to use too much of the color black for clothing and decor, as it is very draining and depressing. Although the meaning of black has some negative connotations, it does in fact enhance any positive elements given by other colors. So wearing black with another color will promote and strengthen the benefits of that color.

1:21:27 Wow, that's some deep shit right there. Okay, let me. So, first of all, just by hanging out with you, it makes me look better. That's what I just heard in that clip. That explains the one-drop rule. Yes, and it explains a lot of things. But also, I would encourage you when you have time to go back to your mom and get into that a little bit deeper because this switch from Negro to black, you know, it didn't just happen. It was pushed. It was meant to be. And yes, there's a lot of negative connotation with it. And quite honestly, it doesn't fit African Americans universally across the board.

1:22:09 You're not all black as night. Because we're all different shades. I mean, you got people, people like Kamala Harris's complexion is accepted as black. And then you have, you know, saying people that are actually closer to the shade of black is represented as black. This is actually a great example of mass hypnosis where we look at a person who is brown and we say, oh, yeah, he's black. I mean, that is how crazy it is when you think about it. And when you listen to the Alazon the witch, I say that respectfully.

1:22:50 The meaning of the depression and it's like, is that dark? It's bad. It's no good. And my favorite, though, makes every other color look good. The reason why I stacked those clips together like that from Chronicles is Judas going into her is it's this weird juxtaposition of the white to black. Now, you're not white. I mean, by color. Yeah. I'm from, I grew up in Europe. Right. You're European. I mean, so you, it means a bunch of different ways you could qualify yourself. But no, no, no, no, us is black. But I digress on that point.

1:23:32 But I just wanted, I saw opportunity there to just adjust. And I really appreciate that. And I think Alazon the psychic. Psychic, again, for a future MoFax, let's bookmark that. I wouldn't mind looking at that transition from Negro to black because there's a lot. That changed a lot in culture. A lot. A lot. And there's a definitely a different correlation of the quote-unquote races standing with the acceptance of that word. But like I said, I'll digress on that. So the question was asked, we're at the end of her campaign, and there's a question: why did she fail to gain traction?

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Washington Post on the Lack of Diversity in Debates

Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post discusses the upcoming Democratic debate, which featured an all-white lineup following Harris's exit. The segment explains that DNC debate requirements are based on polling and fundraising, effectively cutting out candidates who lack corporate or grassroots financial backing.

washington post· pbs news hour· dnc debates· polling· campaign finance

1:24:14 To talk about what happened to Senator Harris's campaign and what her departure does to the race, I'm joined by Chelsea James of the Washington Post. Chelsea, thanks so much for joining us. We began, the Democrats began this campaign season with a historically diverse field of candidates. As things stand now, in the next debate, the PBS News Hour Politico debate, you're going to have six candidates on the stage, all of them white, four white males, two white women. What does that say about what's happening in this race? It's certainly striking. And today we've seen a lot of candidates and pundits and people in that world take to Twitter and point that out.

1:24:53 I think it's disappointing to a lot of people who, in these underrepresented groups that looked at someone like Kamala Harris and said, that's the first person to look like me who's going to have a shot at this. And to have it whittled down as it has, I think, on the one hand, you had the most diverse field in history. And on the other, it's not shaping up to remain that way. And I think there's a lesson to be learned there. What it is is far above my pay grade. But I do think that it's really disappointing to a lot of people in an increasingly verse Democratic electorate who hoped that they would see somebody different represented this time around.

1:25:32 Now, just to be clear on this, what we're talking about is these rules that have been set in place by the election committee or the debate committee or whatever it is as to who is allowed to be in the debates. And they've set these levels and whatever it is based upon polling. And so that's why people are cut out, not for any other reason other than the television decided we're not going to put them on. As we talk about on the show, often you have no money. You can't buy no ads. You are not invited to the party. Yes.

1:26:15 Goodbye. Thanks for coming out. That's very simple. Yeah. And that is one of the actual qualifications for the debate: is money raised? You're so right. Yeah, no money. Well, we don't want you near our TV, our advertising system. Because it's kind of built in. Yeah, you're buying ads, but it's kind of like you buy the ads and you get the news coverage for free. Kind of. Don't let anyone know, Mo. No one knows how to do it. You're coming away the secrets. So Kamala, we're going back to the view now with Sonny and when we started out here with the original clips.

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Sunny Hostin Blames "Electability" Fears for Harris's Failure

On The View, Sunny Hostin argues that black voters didn't support Harris because they feared she wasn't "electable" against Donald Trump, opting instead for Biden or Sanders. Mo dismisses this, asserting that Harris simply "sucked as a candidate." He predicts the political class will attempt to "repackage" her for a 2024 run.

sunny hostin· electability· joe biden· bernie sanders· 2024 election

1:26:59 And the topic of the black vote comes up. To your point, Sonny, all of the front runners have one thing in common. They're all white. Yeah. So everybody says that you cannot get the Democratic nomination without the black vote. Yeah. So what's going to happen to the Democrats now that we have all white faces up there? Well, I think when you look behind the numbers for black voters, one of the things that is going on is that black voters think that there was a, I don't want to speak for all black voters, but looking at the statistics and looking at some of the reporting, black voters don't think that someone like Kamala Harris had a good chance of electability, had a good chance of winning.

1:27:44 Really? Bull crap. Yeah. They're throwing everything at this. Oh, well, she didn't get the votes because they thought Joe Biden had a better chance or Bernie Sander had. No, she sucked as a candidate. Just own it. But we know why Sonny can't say that. It's because she's a car-carrying member of the AKA slash Boulet Sisterhood. So she can't just say Kamala sucked because I'm sure they probably kind of try to repackage her for 2024, go back and

1:28:23 do the autopsy and figure out where they went wrong and repackage her. This is when Kamala wants to be black anymore. I mean, she's trying to say, you know what? This is when they need to be an Indian. They need to hire up. us for 2024, and we'll tell them what to do. First thing is, don't run camels. Not going to work, not going to happen, no, never, never. I could have won with her. I know that sounds arrogant, but I could have just shut up. Just be quiet and wave, and you'll be fine. No, it's like, okay, okay, yeah, you got it. All right, got it. So there's a reckoning to be had, not only amongst the political class,

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Tom Joyner Retires from Radio After 25 Years

Legendary radio host Tom Joyner signed off from his syndicated morning show after 25 years. Joyner was famously credited with registering 250,000 black voters and served as a primary gatekeeper for Democratic politicians. The hosts discuss the decline of traditional radio in the face of podcasting and the shift in target demographics from "boomers" to younger voters.

tom joyner· urban radio· voter registration· 60 minutes· the breakfast club

1:29:06 amongst the bullet talking heads. So there was this weird, not weird occurrence, but this timely happening that I noticed, as I always understand, this is what I do. And when I notice things, I draw the connection between them. Tom Joyner is signing off after 25 years on the radio. Yes, and this is that's quite a momentous event since he's been quite a tour de force in radio, and I'm a radio guy. And I was a big fan until you unpeeled the scales from my eyes to see the bullet that he possibly is, was.

1:29:50 But what I understand is he was leaving radio pretty much because they just weren't paying him anymore. They just said, well, you know, radio in general has issues, of course. Podcasting is killing it, but it's not dead by a long shot. It's a multi-billion dollar industry, but they just kept paying him less and less and less. And the way I understood what I read in the interviews, he said, well, you know, it just didn't make sense for me to do it anymore. I have other reasons that I believe why he resigned. Let's get into Tom Joyner signing off. Radio Giant has or is signing off this morning after a legendary career.

1:30:28 70-year-old Tom Joyner is the host of America's number one syndicated urban morning show. The Tom Joyner morning show airs in more than 105 markets nationwide, reaching nearly 8 million listeners. Well, today at 10 a.m. Eastern, the show goes off the air. Unbelievable. Isn't that what Charlemagne has? Doesn't he have about 8 million people listening? Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. See, I'm thinking of it like a radio guy, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, no, no, no. This is, of course, this is where it's a replacement. Tom Joyner 2.

1:31:09 His nationally syndicated radio show hit the airwaves in 1994 with a certain audience in mind. We do a show for African Americans. That's what we do. This is just so fascinating. In 2000, Joyner discussed his influence with 60 Minutes correspondent Leslie Stahl. 1996, the election. Yeah. I've heard that you were responsible for registering a quarter of a million black voters. I've been given that credit. Politicians. They call you. They want to come on. Yeah. They think that if they want to reach African Americans that vote,

1:31:55 they can come to this show. How does the message that you were talking about in 2000 resonate with 2019 as we go into the 2020 election? It was different then. I think people were more woke then than now. In 2000. In 2000. Ooh, I feel a little pain there with Mr. Joyner. So let me get it straight. We're more woke with less information. It's amazing, isn't it? I don't buy that. No. It's like they were easier to control back then.

1:32:34 They didn't have all these damn smartphones and internet and YouTube and MoFat clipping stuff and putting it together. And this is very interesting because he was getting credit for the black vote really coming out, or at least a significant portion of it. That's what you just heard in the clip. He competes directly with the Breakfast Club, does he not? Isn't that a direct competition? Isn't it? He does a mornings. Is it just mornings that Joyner does? Yeah, but demographic difference. I would say he's 35 up. Yeah, okay, boomer. And Breakfast Club is

1:33:16 35 under. Yeah, that's the audience you want. So it was just a demographic thing. He wasn't pulling it anymore. Just time to retire him out to pasture, I guess. Yeah, you're no more good. And you see. he said i was basically i was the charlamagne before charlamagne that's what he was saying in 2000 and 96 yep the candidates had to stop by here um i gave them a stamp of approval told black people who to vote for and i keep making this point black radio is so powerful because you have it's a free it's free entertainment so poor people uh who are who happen to be black can tune in it doesn't cost them anything and then you're in your car so you're a captive audience because this is the top it's the drive time you know this more you know this better than i

1:34:09 do so now you have me capped captured because where depending on where you live and i live in a major uh well i live near a major city washington dc you still only have like two to three black radio stations right so i mean uh you're gonna get caught by the message so and then when you have things like radio one that buys up most of the radio stations yeah uh you're pretty much going to be indoctrinated with the message that they want to push uh that's what made a tom jon joyner so powerful but now that campaigns are targeting younger voters it's not that he changed it's how campaign who campaigns target

1:34:54 i'd really love to know not for this show we can look at a different time where podcasting fits into that um because you know you have the read and you got other other podcasts um and if they're actually taking away the african americans who are listening to the radio i i wonder if that's happening i wouldn't i don't i just for me i don't think it may be a direct competition for its time slot it's about information and if you have to look at ados it was a podcast move podcast slash social movie right right right right correct so it's like now we're hearing new information you know it's like oh it's like a whole new world

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Ricky Smiley Replaces Tom Joyner and Endorses Harris

Comedian Ricky Smiley took over Tom Joyner's radio time slot and immediately used his platform to urge support for "fellow Greeks" like Kamala Harris and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. Smiley emphasizes the importance of the "divine nine" black fraternities and sororities sticking together. Mo identifies this as the "Boule web" in action, attempting to maintain control over the black electorate.

ricky smiley· keisha lance bottoms· omega psi phi· greek life· gatekeepers

1:35:34 where now before you had bt black radio jet ebony that was pretty much the main veins of black information right uh so well tom joyner is passing the torch now though somebody scooped us the press release is supposed to be coming out in a few minutes but the new morning show that's going to replace the time joyner morning show say hi to rookie smiley good morning good morning ricky thank you for the opportunity okay okay i appreciate you thank you for dinner thank you for everything

1:36:19 okay we got someone new on the scene younger well obviously ricky smiley where does he come from he's a comedian uh he comes from uh like i said he's a comedian a radio i mean he he's been on the radio but now he's taking that time slot from tom joyner so they hope to go younger they're putting the boomers out the pasture uh but let's listen to ricky smiley talk about kamala harris when she was running hey what up this is your boy ricky smiley hey you know one thing i do i always support greeks and uh whoa hey i remember meeting this delta uh member of delta sigma theater her name was keisha lance bottom and

1:37:08 she walked up to me at the radio station she said what up bruh i said oh you saw rosy you the sorrow she said yeah you know she told me her name introduced herself her name in her chapter i said what you got going on she said i'm running for mayor of atlanta i said okay what's i said that's what's what's up i said what are we gonna do she said we're gonna do it guy behind her so she came on the morning show and we made some great things happen so one thing about us greeks most of us stick together now i want everybody to go and support kamala harris she is our senator united states senator out of california hbcu graduate and she is representing alpha campaign alpha sorority

1:37:48 incorporated possibly you know if she win she would be uh the first woman president first black woman president and a member of alpha capa alpha sorority incorporated wow so this guy's all over it he is in fact yes him and tom joyner both are members of omega sci-fi community uh affront fraternity oh my goodness mo we got to get you into morning radio man we got to get some new information out there some some real voices this is this is despicable despicable. Now, when you go back to Steve Coke, Steve Coakley's clip, we're talking about that web.

1:38:31 Now you see it. Yes, sir. Now we're seeing the web. I mean, you can't get away from it, but the problem is there's the market is widening. There's new people coming in. You have Black Lives Matter, which is not of the Boolay. They're getting their support from a different vein. And then you have people like the ADOS and the Foundational Blacks and non-affiliated people that are spreading information. And I keep telling everybody that there's this political maturation process going on amongst quote-unquote black people.

1:39:12 And we're seeing the effects of it now. Well, I'm so happy. First of all, I'm happy for this show. But, you know, you're right. There's a lot of alternative voices out there. And maybe it's just a little slower to catch on. But man, we got to, people got to know about these morning radio show guys, just as one example, of course. But holy crap. It's not good. People are getting worried, though. And when I mean, say people, the members of the black political class, the ones, the gatekeepers, the one that used to deliver our vote, they were scrambling after the Kamala Harris meltdown.

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Alicia Johnson and the "Sisterhood" Group Text

Alicia Johnson, a staffer for Elizabeth Warren, describes the emotional toll Harris's exit took on black women in politics, mentioning a "group text" where staffers from rival campaigns mourned the loss. Mo interprets this as the political class realizing their value to the Democratic Party is diminishing if they cannot deliver the black vote.

elizabeth warren· alicia johnson· black women in politics· career barriers

1:39:54 Right. One being the Senator Warren staffer, Alicia Alencia Johnson. Two, it just sucks that billionaires can kick really good women, especially black women, out of a campaign. Development last week was Senator Harris's exit from the race. She was the only black woman running. What impact, Alencia? You discussed this a little bit. Did she, did her run have on you personally? What was going through your mind when you saw that news? I mean, honestly, any black woman in a leadership position is someone that not only do I look up to as someone who is going to break barriers for the career that I have, or but in general, to the plight of black women, right?

1:40:39 Like that is the highest achievement for a black woman is to become president of the United States, right? And she's only the third to run. So whether or not I worked for, obviously, I didn't work for her. As a black woman in politics removed from campaigning, it is hard to see that. It is hard to see that this could be the greatest achievement for a black woman to accomplish. And so personally, it was hard. And it was hard for, I think, a lot of us, even us on the state. Like, we have a group text. And we're all like, today, we literally were all like, today is really, really hard. And these are women working for Bernie Warren for Warren. And yet, oh, so sad that Kamala got booted out.

1:41:21 It's the sisterhood. It's the they have to reevaluate their value. If we can't get you the black vote, what is my value to the Democratic Party? Right. And that goes for radio host. That goes for staffers. That goes for politicians as Kamala Harris. Wow. Wait a minute. So is the whole system now getting blamed for Kamala not making it? Instead of actually just blaming Kamala for not being good, everyone else is getting the blame. It's like, okay, time to switch it up. We got to get the old radio guy out. We got to move these people around.

1:42:05 You're no good. You failed. Is that what's happening? Yes. What's the point? What's the point of having you around if you can't do your one job? Right. Your one job is get that turn voter turnout. And I suspect how this conversation goes, I'm not privy to information, but it's inferred that, hey, we're at 59. We had to be at 67 to win. We're going in the wrong direction. Right. That's why you're seeing a change in the regard. And you're going to see a lot of heads roll. One being Joy Reed, tell me she's going to get cut.

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MSNBC and the "Black Bot" Disinformation List

Joy Reid and Shireen Mitchell on MSNBC presented a list of "disinformation campaigns" targeting black voters, including ADOS, Blexit, and "Tangibles." They claimed that accounts using black vernacular to discuss reparations or criminal justice are likely "fake accounts" or bots. Mo and Adam react with disbelief, calling it a desperate attempt to tell black voters to ignore their own interests.

msnbc· joy reid· shireen mitchell· ados· blexit· disinformation

1:42:46 NBC, MS NBC attacks black voters one. One of the things that you talk about in Moe's report, and I've spoken with you about this before, is pushing out negative information about a candidate that's been selected to be targeted to turn black voters against them. But it's who they're using as the voice, quote unquote, the digital voice, are supposedly also black people who are spreading that message. And here's what you write about these, about fake accounts that are not necessarily really black people, but who seem to be black people who are saying, hey, Kamala's a cop or this person is bad for black people. Quote, fake accounts pretending to be black women matter not only in the disinformation campaigns, but in every election.

1:43:26 There has been a constant number, you write, of fake accounts posing as black women since 2013. These fake accounts, which pretend to be black women, seem to be real people with real concerns. They connect with the American Black community online, attempting to learn Black vernacular and key issue areas. What would be the point of creating fake accounts who appear to be Black women specifically? Wow. Hold on. Is this a new clip or is this back to the ADOS or bots? When was this recorded? Last week. Oh, my goodness. They're doing this again. That's Joy Reed doing that again. Yes, with the same woman. Oh, man. Yeah. Black bots. Where are you at?

1:44:10 Shireen. No, it's Shireen. Well, yeah, it's the same. Shireen. Shireen Mitchell. Shireen Mitchell. Shireen Mitchell. Yes. Wow. I'm going to read to you. I have a screenshot of the screen. This is nuts. Report. Disinformation targets and actors. They have a list of disinformation campaigns. Ados, American Descendants of Slaves, Blexit, Tangibles, Foundational Black Americans, Black Voices for Trump, and Walk Away. Well, holy crap. I know Ados is real because I've followed it. I'm involved.

1:44:51 I see Tone and everybody. Cynthia, I know what's going on. Blexit is Candace Owens. She's real. Now, whatever turning point USA has to do with it, I don't know. Oh, tangible. Tangibles, Foundational Blacks. That's the Tarish Nasheeds operation that was just supposed to Ados. Right. Wow. Which is real. I mean, he's real. You can't argue. So now, so let me just understand. So now the message is that they were, that they, who was duped by these fake black women accounts. What was the, what are they saying now? What is the point? They're saying stay away from them.

1:45:31 They're saying stay away from them. And then on the other side of the screen, they have a list of issues targeting black voters. Reparations, criminal justice, climate change, immigration. And so whenever you see something tweeting that out, it's obviously a bot. Is that yes? Anything talked about tangible rations? Criminal justice. Oh, my God. Well, climate change, that might be a bot. That's so desperate, Mo. This is desperation when they're throwing this out. I mean, that is, I'm sorry, you can't cut it any other way. Someone said, Holy crap, we got a problem. All hands on deck. We just got to tell them to step away from that shit because we can't have them thinking that way. Double down on the bots.

1:46:16 Gosh. MSNBC attacks black voters too. Because if we know, as we've seen, that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing. What not vote for the Democrats. And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's an immigration. Reparations, immigration, and

1:46:56 sorry, reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Seriously, we're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You could tell right away by the language that they use most of the time. But if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying.

1:47:37 Better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying. Wow. It's mind-boggling. That is so desperate. We're black bots, man. Oh, my goodness. Me and you, you're in it too now. Oh, hell yeah. I've been to the bot barbecue. I'm telling you, this is insane. This is insane. I got you on that one. This is insane. But it's so pathetic. Literally, the issues that African Americans should be most interested in, you're being told. told to ignore because that's fake news. That's bots blown away.

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MoFax Episode 18 Outro and Final Thoughts

Adam Curry praises Mo's deconstruction of the Kamala Harris campaign as "seminal" and superior to mainstream journalism. They reiterate the "value for value" call to action and encourage listeners to share the episode. The show concludes with a reminder that "the truth will reveal itself" and a promise to return after Christmas.

mofax· adam curry· smithsonian· value for value· truth

1:48:21 If you ask for anything in exchange for your vote, you're not real. Oh, my goodness. Oh, you know, Mo. I think this particular episode of this show surpasses journalistic integrity from every single so-called like the paper of record. They haven't done a deconstruction of Kamala like this. No one has been honest about what is actually happening or what happened to her. I mean, we know that it's hard for any mainstream media outlet to say, well, you know,

1:49:01 Hillary Clinton just sucked as a candidate. She certainly won't admit it. So we're going through the same with Kamala, but it's worse when you get, this is pure racist propaganda from black women, you know, African-American or not, but their skin color is black. So you could, you might mistake them for someone who's on your side. It's really, it's bizarre. And in fact, I'm using these two clips on no agenda. I mean, they're good. This is what a great catch. So congratulations on just really pulling this together because this is something that not only is it necessary from a journalistic standpoint that someone actually fairly look at what happened, but I think it's good for the voters to get informed.

1:49:49 People, if you made it to the end of the show and you're hearing us here, you've got to turn other people on to this. You've got to have people listen to what happened here. This is, I mean, I'm going to say this is un-American what's happening here. And I'm a little angry. My stomach is like, oh, I don't like this at all. That's crazy. That's some disinformation. It's unbelievable. But I'm not angry because the harder they work, it only tells me how valuable my vote is. Gold. It's pure gold, my friend. It's like when somebody gets mad at you because you won't sell them something.

1:50:32 Yeah. It's like, sell it to me, man. Sell it. It's like, take my money. Right. Like, no, uh-uh. No, no, no, no. And especially since we know that the whole system has been set up to target black women because the men are no good. The men got, you got crazy ideas. Like you like the, you know, you've, you've been energized by Donald Trump. Oh, no, no, no. We have to go. We have to get the black women, African-American women are the ones who are going to save us and keep these votes in here. And now you're doing this. Do you think people fall for this?

1:51:12 Do people see through this at this point? Or is it still... And by the way, how many black women watch MSNBC? I'd love to see the numbers just in general. Just because you put some black women up there doesn't mean people watch it or they fall for it. Do you know? Do you have any idea? Is this a... I don't have very little idea, but this is these are the think tanks. Yeah, it's just one thing. You know what black people want? You know, let's put up a let's put up a, and I'm going to say this. Let's put up a dark-skinned woman, you know, and they'll believe her. Right. They'll believe her. And that's why I don't think, and I'm going to say this, and I'm going to wrap on this point. I don't think Kamala Harris will make a good VP because she's not your stereotypical black woman.

1:51:58 This is identity politics. This is what it is. Yeah. This is what it is. And they're going to be looking for, and you know who I told you was going to be the VP? Oh, yeah, Stacey Abrams, of course. Stacey Abrams, because she fits the bill. Yeah. So this is, I mean, sick in one way, but then as the harder they try, it only just emboldens me that I'm on the right track. And I'm telling everybody whether to be labeled bot or not, do not vote unless you get something for your vote. I'm sending this episode to the Smithsonian Institute. I want to make sure it's preserved for many years from now because this is a seminal moment in this election where we have uncovered the insaneness of going after the African-American vote and how that's being done.

1:52:47 And I appreciate the work you put into this, Mo. This is fantastic. And I'd like to remind everybody that we do this because we like each other and we have fun doing it, but we really would appreciate you showing the appreciation of the work that went into this. We call it the value for value system. Did you learn anything? First thing you got to do is you got to turn someone else onto this because I think this episode in particular particular is important, as I explained. But also, send us something in exchange for that value. And mofax.com is the website. You can go direct into the funding portion by going to mofundme.com, M-O-E-FundMe.com.

1:53:24 And Mo, I can only say once again, thank you for a stellar job. And as I always say, pay attention to everything, and the truth will reveal itself. And we know that is a fact. It shows up every single time. Keep your eyes open. We will be back probably just after Christmas with another edition of Mo Facts. Take care, everybody. We'll see you soon. It's sad to be we're not gonna make it and it's gotten to the point where we just can't fake it.

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Closing Music: Neither One of Us by Gladys Knight

The episode concludes with the song "Neither One of Us (Wants to Be the First to Say Goodbye)" by Gladys Knight & the Pips. The music plays through the final sign-off.

gladys knight· neither one of us· closing music· soul music

1:54:21 We just won't let it down. I guess neither one of us, neither one of us wants to be the first to say goodbye. I keep me wondering, wondering what I'm gonna do without you. And I guess you must be wondering at the same thing too.

1:55:10 Convincing ourselves to give it the sword tried because neither one of us wants to be the first to say Neither one of us wants to be the first to say Neither one of us wants to be the first to say Farewell Goodbye