24:26 This year, which is about 49 days away. The Jeff Davis show is sponsoring in part a bus charter to Waco Texas to leave here at 630 AM for the annual memorial service and hopefully we'll be back around 4 or so. If you're interested call 370-9558 and we'll give you the details as to how you can participate, and go on up and meet some of the people that survived Mount Carmel. And uh...participate in the memorial service Next caller! You're on air Hello Jeff Hi Hey it's nice to talk to ya Thanks I enjoy your show Thank you Okay i've got a kind-of two part question
25:14 It really doesn't have, I don't guess a whole lot to do with or maybe just a little bit to do with what you've been talking about in the last hour. Doesn't matter just whatever is on your mind Okay first of all there are certain uh...I mean we all know that the media is doing this and doing that and then there are certain aspects of the media that we pay attention too in a positive light Is there some sort of litmus test or some sort of, I know that aside from common sense and intuition is there some sort of a method or litmus test on which media stories we should listen to and which we should write off and ignore. And say well thats BS and ones that we really should hone in on and say hey thats one i need to pay attention too because thats what has most appeal to me
26:07 Generally, what's your first name? Mark. perception of pretty much anything coming out of the mainstream media. That's just my opinion, now it's not that... Well, my question is that I'm not going to tell you that any of it is really good per se. Just sort of a test though to kind of separate the good from bad as much we can get out of the gray area something that we really want to hone in on well one thing that I have used what do you do? You had a newspaper out earlier and I was wondering What do you do to separate what you want to read from what you don't want to read? Well, I normally do not...I don't spend much time reading the so-called establishment newspapers because largely I think that they're just feeding us either a bunch of insignificant information or they're giving us little stories about
27:04 Clinton or Gingrich, or these types of circus stories that never amount to a hill of beans. It's like the old Rome and the bread-and-circus scenario where they keep slaves focused on issues with no significance...bread and circus. But every now and then there are some things that sneak by even in the establishment media mainly because they can't control everything everybody is saying Largely the corporations and the FCC I believe are somewhat in control of the editorial content, but they can't control what everybody is saying or writing on all these issues.
27:49 It's a little bit of that our forefathers. We hold these truths to be self-evident I mean we all understand that point, but I'm saying digging down deep and the things you and I pay attention to still within that Some people call it counterculture. We call it whatever we're into whatnot. You know, you call what you want but even in that Isn't there some sort of a kind of a weeding out process? Some kind of things you have to riff through and say, hey wait a minute. These guys are going overboard I'm gonna uh...you know toe the line stay the course and not get distracted by any kinda like just off op end You know what i'm saying it's just kinda every now again you hear something that is really off the board
28:38 You mean it's got some truth or information in it? I don't know what you mean by off the board. Well, mixed with a lot of the truth and information that we get from some publications that are not mainstream media You mean that the, well... Well you know what I'm saying is there are publications where you can get a lot of good information in but at the same time you get a lot of static, a lot of flack, a lot of gray area little op-ed articles that are almost irritating. It's almost kind of an eyesore to see it in the same magazine or publication that you hold so dear too
29:19 It was like a, you know... You understand what I'm saying? The alternative stuff. Yeah, I understand that. We've already discounted the mainstream. In fact, I would say that I've been guilty of it myself. Playing some videos and things where people are calling for the cash of society by 1993 and 94... And you know it obviously hasn't happened so what I'm saying is that even in the alternative patriot network
30:10 The other side is getting information out, misinformation out into that arena as well to keep people confused. When you're dealing in this subject it's a it's kind of actually to be honest with you is kinda hard to decipher what's good and what isn't so basically what i say is follow our own convictions but I'm just wondering if there's a method that you've worked out that we can all use well, I'll tell ya Mark where I'm at. Basically where I'm at and I have been this way for many years about three or four years I really don't even have to read alot of this stuff anymore because I could watch Clinton and I could watch Albright
30:54 establishment toads and listen to them and get a pretty good feel on what it is that they're plotting right off the bat. Whether it's Bush, you know any of these cronies that they threw Gingrich, any of these front men if they throw out at him... If you just watch enough of it and understand enough of what their goals are, The Secret Society connections how huge this thing is with all the different tentacles You can almost get a good gauge just for for perception is what are they planning to do now, under the disguise of doing good for us. You can almost get to the point where you can see their manipulation and read directly what it is that they're plotting. That's kind of where I'm at with this.
31:39 Now, that's just me. As far as the information there is no one to say for sure exactly who is right on it. Frankly I don't believe everybody is right on everything. There are documents out there that are good documents and well documented And then there's other things that are gray like you said. Even the establishment media throws out some things I think that are... It's kind of like you said, you gotta go on your own convictions but the one thing we do know is is that we're not getting a lot of information from the mainstream media. And what I'm trying to accomplish with this show, is to get people the idea that hey maybe were not getting all the information we need to make educated decisions on our lives and if were being manipulated or not
32:32 and to try to seek out some alternative sources, and let them make up their minds for themselves what's good or what isn't. See as long they're just being fed...as long they're just working 8-5 and coming home watching Dan Rather eating her dinner going to bed Their minds are locked. So our goal should be to at least start introducing some alternative information and get people thinking, some new concepts and new ways of looking at issues And to me, that's the work at hand that we have in front of us. So it's not really... I don't know any endorsement. I've just got one second question that will lead to a short third question and then I'm off okay? Go ahead! First of all, I was wondering what if any effect... We're talking about first of all do you believe in powers