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The Jeff Davis Show March 3rd 1997 Part 1 [ 8Fr3 E9Lg]

Federal overreach and international finance collide as the legacy of the Waco siege sparks a debate on the erosion of American liberty and constitutional law.

By Mike Hanson Archives | 33m listen | 11 chapters
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About this episode

Ron Paul and Chet Edwards clashed on C-SPAN over the unconstitutionality of a national police force and the federal government's role in the 1993 Waco siege. While Paul warned of public fear regarding the IRS and BATF, Edwards rebuked the congressman for using militia-style rhetoric to describe the actions at Mount Carmel. This confrontation highlights a massive legal double standard where federal agents remain unindicted for the deaths of over 80 people while surviving Branch Davidians face the full weight of the law.

International bankers, the IMF, and the World Bank have allegedly transformed the United States into a debt-based fascist state through the implementation of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto. The American infrastructure of interstate highways and skyscrapers mirrors the public works of the Roman Empire, built by a population of productive slaves who trade liberty for the illusion of security. Entities like the Rockefeller Foundation and the World Council of Churches manage this transition by promoting materialism and victimless crimes to erode individual identity. Since J.P. Morgan began purchasing influential newspapers in 1910, the media has served a diet of pablum to mask the 16 trillion dollars in unpayable debt and the systematic destruction of culture through the AMA and fluoridated water.

Jeff Davis announces a bus charter for the fourth annual memorial service at Mount Carmel on April 19 to ensure the victims of the Waco siege are never forgotten. Greg Erickson will also host a special edition of Tele-Democracy this Tuesday at 10:30 PM to address the light rail controversy. These segments underscore a growing movement against state worship and the consolidation of power within defense contractors and welfare bureaucracies.


CHAPTER 01 / 11 Discussion

Karl Marx, Communist Manifesto, and America as a Conquered Nation

Karl Marx and his theories on communism serve as the framework for an analysis of the current political state of the United States. The argument posits that the top ten planks of the Communist Manifesto have already been implemented, transforming America into a fascist-controlled nation. This transition is allegedly managed by an inner elite who exert control through economic, political, and spiritual mechanisms like the World Council of Churches.

karl marx· communist manifesto· world council of churches· fascism· totalitarianism

00:03 We're back Austin, Texas. We've got a video to play later. We've got a short commentary by myself since I have had several guests in here the last couple of months and we are going talk about some things that quite frankly are being left out. Now what were going to do...are you ready with Okay, okay. What we're going to do is we're going to study a little bit of Karl Marx here in the first half hour or so. If you are all familiar Karl Marx was basically a philosopher and he wrote his version what communism is and We've got a very good little essay type form where were going to show exactly what it is And why America is a conquered nation

01:10 as it is today. And that several of the planks, at least the top ten planks of the Communist Manifesto that were written by Karl Marx have been implemented and in fact America once again is a communist nation...a controlled nation actually its not really a communist nation, its a nation where uh..its a fascist type controlled mechanism and the inner elite, the rulers of this world have grabbed economics political, spiritual and in a way of organized religion through the World Council of Churches, the National Council of Churches. All these different mechanisms in place

01:54 which have set up a totalitarian regime in America. And the reason why we're studying this, or we're going over this tonight is the fact that many people still believe that were free I think if you stay with us next 30-40 minutes you'll see that America is a conquered nation and you find out who the conquerors are So when you go out on July 4th and put your little American flag keep in mind such might not be the case And as I go around talking about these types of subjects to people, how America is enslaved and how we're an enslaved nation. There's some commonly asked questions that people bring up to me and other people who are in this movement wondering why were reeling against the so-called democracy that we live under? Some of the most commonly asked questions concerning are we an enslaved nation or not

CHAPTER 02 / 11 Discussion

Roman Empire Infrastructure, Debt Slavery, and International Bankers

The massive infrastructure of the United States, including interstate highways and large buildings, is compared to the public works of the Roman Empire built by slaves. Current American prosperity is described as an illusion financed by international bankers, the IMF, and the World Bank, leading to 16 trillion dollars in unpayable debt. This system of debt is characterized as a form of modern slavery where the state confiscates property to fund programs that the public then fights over.

roman empire· international bankers· debt slavery· imf· world bank

02:56 One of them is, there's a list of about four or five here that I wrote down. One of them is well Jeff what about all these nice roads and the big infrastructures and buildings that we have? And this huge infrastructure interstate highways and all this Well first off folks if you study Rome back in the Roman Empire time You will see that the Roman Emperors had huge buildings Huge infrastructures and the slaves built em at their expense. And the current problem that we face, basically if you want to know about the roads and the infrastructure and everything that we have is basically an illusion of prosperity financed by international elite, international bankers at the cost of the nation hence the 16 trillion dollars of debt slavery that can never be repaid on the backs of slaves

03:58 Meaning that there's no way we could ever repay the debt that has piled up in this country. And debt equals slavery, so if you have debt then you have slavery and the slaves are financing all of this This is why to the rulers of this world who control religions politicians corporations etc on the surface they're front men will appear to be playing against each other, but in fact as long as the state gets bigger, as long as the churches organize religion gets bigger. As long as corporations merge and consolidate their power like they're doing it's all best for the inner elite who are running things behind the scenes

04:47 This is why it doesn't matter if they're financing debt either through welfare, through military, or whatever mechanism that they come up with and then through the organized religion system to the World Council of Churches, the National Council of Churches. It doesn't make any difference what factor that they play upon and if you notice the debate with the people in America, you will find largely the debate is centered upon We shouldn't be giving all of this money to West Austin. We should be giving it to East Austin, and East Austin should be giving it to West Austin and we should be spending more money on this program than not less on these programs. More money over here, less money over here. The debate is centered around

05:39 where the actually stolen goods is going to, when the fact is the real question should be how many people's homes and properties have been confiscated to pay for these stolen goods that now all of the slaves are fighting over. Basically whoever has the biggest voice ends up with a pot of stolen goods So that kind of system we're living under right now again it's an illusion of prosperity financed by debt masters, meaning international bankers through central banks the World Bank, the IMF and all of the little programs that they create whether it be left wing or right wing center ring whatever types of schemes that they're coming up with. The fact is they win because they are the ones who have the carrot and he who has the gold rules so the fact is they throw out this carrot

CHAPTER 03 / 11 Discussion

Materialism, Cultural Destruction, and the Productivity of Modern Slaves

Modern rulers utilize materialism and the distribution of basic goods to maintain a slave-master relationship similar to ancient Egypt and Rome. By placing emphasis on material idols like the Grammy Awards, the elite allegedly destroy individual identity, culture, and history to make the population easier to rule. The higher standard of living in America is attributed to the fact that American citizens are simply more productive slaves than those in other nations.

egypt· rome· grammy awards· public schooling· cultural identity

06:35 and the people bite to it. But the real issue should be is where's our liberty when people's homes, property and cars are being confiscated by the state? And these other mechanisms set in place by the people who create debt. Now a second question that is often asked is what about these jobs and this standard of living and all these material things we have Well, this goes back also if you study Rome again you'll see and even way back to Egypt and way back to the modern day slave master relationship. The current day rulers of this world need slaves in fact who work their corporations, their government agencies and they organized religions take control so

07:27 The fact is, basically what they're doing is that the rulers provide material things and place all the emphasis on material things. Meaning are the idols and people we have to look up too are people who have a lot of material things in this type of thing such as the Grammy Awards and all this type of thing So basically the rulers then through various different mechanisms allow certain material things, meaning basic food shelter and clothing to be distributed to the slaves. In return the slaves will provide a good and honest service to the rulers And this is basically what's happened here Along with the emphasis on material things comes the complete destruction

08:24 of identity, real freedom and liberty. Culture, cultural things this is why you are seeing all of this we're all as one business This is why they will have the public schooling and getting us in there teaching at the same level with different races etc taking away our identity, our culture and what this country was founded upon. All of these different things play into the fact that if they can eliminate our history and our culture then the slave masters have an easier chore ruling over us America's standard of living is better than most in other countries largely because American people are more productive slaves than in other countries

09:14 So the slave masters are manipulating, they're financing the debt. They're manipulating the slaves to work in their different corporations, their government agencies, their high level organized religion circles and this keeps the slaves working and at same time they're throwing out some bales of hay to satisfy the slaves So this is nothing, this happened in Egypt. This happened in Rome and it's happened again In our efforts here to try to show you how America is a conquered nation Now another frequently asked question by people Is that we need more laws? We need laws because people are no good This what you would call the Pang Theory

CHAPTER 05 / 11 Discussion

Victimless Crimes, State Control, and the Communist Manifesto Timeline

The creation of victimless crimes, including drug laws, gambling laws, and gun permits, is identified as a tool used to turn citizens into criminals of the state. These laws allegedly violate the premise that individuals should be free to act as long as they do not harm others or their property. This systematic erosion of liberty is described as a process that has been active in the United States for at least 70 to 80 years, aligning with the goals of the Communist Manifesto.

victimless crimes· drug laws· gun laws· communist manifesto· personal property

13:30 Now other evidence of us being a conquered nation, well there are several but the victimless crime issue where the slave masters and the lawmakers so called law makers have created laws that do not have a victim meaning that nobody has actually been harmed except for course the state. This means basically if you understand the premise and it's the only legitimate premise that works, basically you're allowed to do whatever you so desire to do provided you don't impose that right upon somebody else. The victimless crime issue, slave master laws have created... not of created laws not that make us criminals against

14:26 the personal property or the person of personal property of somebody, basically they've made us criminals of the state. They have done these through various laws like the drug laws, the gambling laws, gun laws permits licenses and fees etc., ad nauseum and nauseam so they have basically made us criminals of the state rather than criminals that would be violating other people's rights or property These are just some more evidences of how America is now a conquered nation and not something down the road, not something that's fixing to come upon us but something that has been here for long time. When we get to our Communist Manifesto and the study of it you will see this has been going on for at least 70 or 80 years in this country Now the next obvious question

CHAPTER 06 / 11 Discussion

Public Apathy, Security vs Liberty, and Individual Responsibility

Apathy is identified as the primary reason nations fall under totalitarian control, as people often choose the illusion of security over real liberty. Many individuals prefer to let a "Big Brother" government or organized religion handle their responsibilities, such as retirement and safety, in exchange for taxes and tithes. This willingness to sacrifice individual responsibility for perceived safety allows power to consolidate at the top, leading to inevitable corruption.

apathy· big brother· security· liberty· individual responsibility

15:30 And the final, are we ready with the communist thing? The next obvious question is... and in fact it was mentioned to me on the way over here. That is who cares about all this? Should there's should be taking attitude that there nothing we can do about it Who care about any of these stuff So what were living under totalitarian state This largely is history of people of any nations, of any time in the world is apathy. They have been led to believe that security

16:15 is an excellent way to live instead of real liberty. Not an illusion of liberty, but real liberty meaning that they want the big brother government take care and provide for their retirement, provide for their jobs look out for them by passing gun laws putting more cops out on the street all these different things they are very content The history of the world shows to allow some entity, be it a government, be it a Catholic church like an inquisition type or whatever. To allow some other organization, entity to take care of the responsibilities that they themselves either will not or cannot perform

17:01 So basically what this does then is consolidate power up to the top, power corrupts and then you have your system that we're currently placed in. Also slavery it's convenient for some people like I say don't like to think, don't like to have individual responsibility placed upon themselves This an ideal way to live Let a big brother government do it, let an organized religion do it. Just give them some tithes and pay your taxes and assume that somebody else 2 thousand miles away is going to take care of this for you. This is convenient for some but again the people

17:51 do not want real liberty, do not know what real liberty and freedom is. Who are unwilling to think for themselves, unwilling to take individual responsibility for their own lives and their own actions are easily led to this type of system of control and quite frankly the rulers of this world understand that there are going to be a certain amount people who will be willing to sacrifice their liberty for security. They will also, they will also be many people

CHAPTER 07 / 11 Discussion

Biblical History, Defense Contractors, and International Finance

The current cycle of enslavement is compared to biblical history, where nations lose their way by turning toward organized religion and state worship. Various entities, including defense contractors and welfare bureaucracies, are said to profit from this corruption while the ruling elite maintain control through international finance. The segment argues that both big corporations and big government work hand-in-hand, contrary to communist claims that they are opposing forces.

biblical history· world council of churches· defense contractors· international finance· communism

18:27 During this time I keep in mind folks. This is a cyclical thing This is something that's happened if you study biblical history where? Nations of people have become enslaved This is the first step, I think it really break away from their God start excuse me start going into Organized religious situations where it's basically a social club they teach the hail so that the the base Caesar and pay your taxes, all of this business. This is again your World Council of Churches and National Council of Churches and all of this

19:07 And many people also profit during periods of corruption like we're now living in. And we see this as well, a lot of people who are the big contractors and defense contractors, the people making their living off other peoples misery, like welfare programs, huge bureaucracies that are building up around us, the huge organized religious temples that are building up Keep in mind folks, the ruling elite do not care whether this system of corruption grows in government circles and corporate circles or religious circles because they're in a sense controlling all three on their own mainly through international finance.

19:56 So this is why the communists are wrong because they basically say that corporations are the ones controlling things. That's why we need big government over here to protect us, when in fact these are both working hand-in-hand. We have a lot of these things and when we get too...we've also got a tape I'm going to play just a minute here but were going to... Are we ready with the communist manifesto yet? First off, folks we have something to mention here. Greg Erickson will tell Democracy will not be on tomorrow night but he'll have a special edition at 1030 and I think he's going to talk about light rail

CHAPTER 08 / 11 Discussion

Tele-Democracy Special Edition, Greg Erickson, and Light Rail

Greg Erickson will host a special edition of Tele-Democracy on Tuesday night at 10:30 PM, filling the time slot usually held by Byron Harris. The broadcast is expected to cover the topic of light rail and other local issues Erickson has been tracking. This update serves as a schedule change notice for regular viewers of the program.

greg erickson· tele-democracy· light rail· byron harris· austin

20:50 He had actually called me a week back about light rail, couple other issues that he wants to be talking about. And he's going to be taking the place of which normally is Byron TV with Byron Harris every Tuesday night at 1030 PM and if you're interested in anything some things Greg talks about and Greg is aware of some these things tune into that tomorrow night for special edition of Tele-Democracy at 1030PM And so that would be that. Okay, now folks as we continue to puzzle on here I do want to mention that we have a video coming up in about 15-20 minutes and also want to talk briefly about something that happened last week. I happen to be watching Congressman Ron Paul on C-SPAN, like the second running of it

CHAPTER 09 / 11 Discussion

Ron Paul C-SPAN Appearance, National Police Force, and Chet Edwards

Congressman Ron Paul recently appeared on C-SPAN to discuss the unconstitutionality of a national police force and the public's fear of federal agencies like the IRS and BATF. Paul's comments regarding the 1993 Waco siege drew a sharp rebuke from Congressman Chet Edwards, who represented the Waco area. Edwards criticized Paul's rhetoric, comparing it to that of a Montana militiaman, and defended the government's actions by citing allegations against the Branch Davidians.

ron paul· c-span· batf· chet edwards· national police force

22:00 And he was actually talking about several issues and you can tell that Ron Paul is on to a lot of the things I say. He's basically in there, at a battle up there with a bunch of people that are un-American and so he has his work cut out for him just like we have our work cut out for us here but one of the questions brought up since Friday was actually the third anniversary of Waco and when the BATF went in guns a blazing in Waco on February 28th, 1993. It was mentioned...a question was asked to Ron Paul. Caller called up and asked him what are we going to do about these bombs going off all over America?

22:53 You know, people are scared. Now this is the typical scenario where the media has fed this type of hysteria into the public and now this fellow's crying out for security It's the same type of scenario that I've been talking about for last 20 minutes or so So, Ron Paul's response was simple which I'd agree with. Basically he stated that first off nowhere in the US Constitution does it authorize the United States National Police Force That is unconstitutional There are very few things that the constitution even justifies Congress or the national government to be involved in other than national defense

23:38 post office judicial system and that type of thing. All of these things that you hear coming down the pike, these gun laws and tobacco laws and all of these laws are supposedly again in our best interest or unconstitutional most of them are being done by executive orders which is usurping the congress even as bad as modern day congress is But the fact is most of these things that we see happening in America, most of these laws that are coming down the pike are not even...are unconstitutional at best and criminal at worst. Now basically the caller called up and asked Congressman Raul Paul what he thought about these bombs going on all over the country

24:28 Well, first off my opinion on it and that is we don't know exactly who's doing these bombs. And if you study Oklahoma City it could very well be that the slave masters are the ones behind a lot of these things because they're of course the only ones who profit from these types of things. They create the crisis, the normal Hegelian dialectic where they create the crisis, the thesis synthesis the thesis, anti-thesis synthesis where they create the crisis and then create fear and hysteria. And then come in and appear to be our saviors when in fact they were the perpetrators basically their saving is more laws that make us all more criminals of the state but with this caller calling up Paul just basically stated that he

25:21 First off, again that it was unconstitutional to have a national police force. Secondly he stated there were a lot of people who are afraid of agencies like the IRS and stealing their homes, the BATF and that he believed there were a lot of people who were afraid at the BATF where the national government could go in and blow up people as they did in Waco Texas Well, the next day apparently this spawned Congressman Chet Edwards who I guess represents Waco and who reacted to Paul's comment on C-SPAN. And basically stated that these allegations are completely outrageous and that Congressman Paul sounds more like a militia man of Montana rather than a U.S. congressman

CHAPTER 11 / 11 Discussion

Journey to Waco, Fourth Annual Memorial Service, and Bus Charter

The Jeff Davis Show is sponsoring a bus charter titled "The Journey to Waco" for the fourth annual memorial service at Mount Carmel on April 19. The service will feature speeches from surviving Davidians and a memorial for all who died during the 1993 siege, including BATF agents. The bus is scheduled to depart Austin at 6:30 AM to arrive for the service, which runs from 9:00 AM to 2:00 PM, as part of an effort to ensure the events of Waco are not forgotten.

waco memorial· mount carmel· davidians· jeff davis show· bus charter

28:58 Now, on those lines of Waco Texas I've got some information that's from the media since this is a fourth year anniversary of the murder in Waco Texas and of course the actual raid took place on February 28th 1993. There was 51 day standoff and then on April 19 1993, Mount Carmel went up in flames. I've also got some information that some of the media folks are encouraging people not to go up to the 4th Annual Memorial Service which is coming up on April 19 this year which is like what 48 days away? 49 days away? And counter to that but no because of that...ok it doesn't matter but encounter of

29:58 Again, not because of that but just in response to these allegations. They don't want people going up to Waco for the 4th Annual Memorial Service to meet several Davidians and walk around Mount Carmel facility and whatnot The Jeff Davis Show is sponsoring in part a bus charter service To be leaving Austin Saturday April 19 at roughly 6.30am in the morning, there's a memorial service where several of the Davidians are going to speak I myself might even speak but basically it is a memorial they even memorialized the dead VATF people that died during all this But there is a memorial service April 9th and 49 days from April 19th which is Saturday so The Jeff Davis Show is sponsoring in part

30:58 Bus Charter Service and if you're interested Call the comment line leave your name a number and we'll get back with you with the deep to detail It's scheduled to leave here somewhere around 6 30 in the morning because the service is from 9 a.m.. Till 2 p.m that Saturday, and We're going to be taking some people up there We've already got people that are going and anybody interested in going out for me and meeting some of the Davidians talking to them, going through the memorial service with some of these people. Then you can call the comment line and like I said leave your name and number and we will get back with you and tell you the particulars as far as the bus charter. We're calling it The Journey To Waco! And um...we're not going to forget this issue because uh mainly-I'm not because like i say mainly

31:56 I know many of those people that were involved in that and there was a terrible injustice done against them. And there's still no indictments, there is still no accountability for those agents who shot CS gas in their, knocked the wall down with tanks which ended up crushing the skulls of some of the children that were in there and ultimately, Mount Carmel facility went down in flames. There was over 80-some deaths there just on April 19th that year 1993 and we're not going to let that one go. We're not going to silence that one on The Jeff Davis Show so if you are interested in me going on up there for about 48 days or 49 days

32:45 give us a call at 370-9558 and leave your name and number, we will be happy to give you the particulars. But there will be a charter service on a journey to Waco and we've got them displayed up there anybody that's interested We've already got some people that are going And well were in as many buses as we need To get as many people out there as we can So, like I say it's an excellent opportunity if you haven't gone up to Mount Carmel to see what is left of it and maybe if you do decide to go maybe you will have a different opinion when you come back. Are we ready yet? Okay! We can just start them now