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00:02 1993 Clinton gave speeches about it and here we are an internal checkpoint And they funded through this poll through this toll so that's the new America And here, we are at the internal checkpoint About 20 miles inside Kansas Southern Kansas coming out of Oklahoma all part of the Freedom. Mike will be able to shoot video coming up at the slave grid and they've got there's a KTAG scanner right there see it? There is a KTAG scanner right there, Mike. This is the ticket system I don't... You're in the wrong one! Well, I don't have KTAG Oh no! Oh, the Ticket! So I guess here's an oh they built more internal checkpoints for us See?! In 96

01:06 I told the lady, or 97, I told the lady on this road she says I love KTAG and i said you love KTAG you're gonna lose your job. She did? And she did and so now they only have a certain polling place toll place where we'll cash this in I guess yeah you love KTAG oh! You love the self-checkout lanes the uh cash checkers say they get to check themselves out And they say it takes their load off. You have to only take out all the checkout lanes, which is the plan! You guys are building a giant peristogram... I'm talking about the grocery stores and how it all interconnects. Oh we're in deep trouble. The whole cashless society what it does that make people lose their jobs. That's what I'm getting at one of my weird roundabout ways so here it is

01:58 We warned them 97 six years ago. Did we not Mason? Did we not Mike? Yeah, we warned you no more job I'm like where's the person there's a little did you get a little radio scanner? Well, we'll stick with K tag scanner. I don't have a k-tag So I had to get a ticket and soon they've already made it in areas of Northern California, San Francisco You've got to have the transponder on your car Even if you don't use the tollways and the radio readers do scan you as you go around town But it's all about freedom fighting Al-Qaeda This was all put in before Al Qaeda. I mean CIA attacked us

02:37 So, they close lots of lanes. They squeeze us down and it's just a wonderful new system. It'll be all over the country! To get into cities you'll have to pay poles... Why do I keep saying poles? To get into cities you'll have to pay tolls and there will be a satellite tracker box in your car taxing you. It's fun! The Southern Terminal And for no reason they shut the road down to one lane. I think these may have two or three It's all part of the freedom. And then we... Oh! Watch what I'm saying, you're running. Here is another one Ashley has got a nice pyramid. Go ahead Alex here she goes. How gracious of her. She still hasn't found that I am a robot girl yet. How is it going? Oh really why? What's the law? Because if one of your authorized rules and regulations then you can be arrested. Better call the police man

03:47 Oh here she goes. This is going to be great! Should I just keep it rolling? Yeah. Uh oh, well say it Alex. Well we just got threatened with arrest in the United States of America at a toll booth with a video camera and she just told us we're gonna get arrested. Okay you want me to keep it going? Literally when we pull over here and ask how's she doing She says no videotaping Why not? I've never heard that We are on our own car How about I pull over here and wait for them How much do I owe you? How about a pullover and wait for the police. It's going to be $470. Well no, she said she is calling the police on me! I want to wait for them. I'm not making it big issue of it. Well I am a syndicated talk show host with television shows so I know the laws in this country and I'm gonna enjoy this. I know that this is an internal checkpoint. I know that she says its airport rules but it's not. But I'm proving this to people with this example. Incredible

04:49 Here she is. This woman here... There she is right here I don't want her to make false charges Ma'am, you can't quote any law on me but do you need me stay for the police? Would you ask your police? She just threatened me Sir if you hold up the traffic any longer I will have to call a different number Okay we got it on tape and you guys are cool as to go Thank You! Bye bye God what a joke I cannot believe that Alright you may have to inject that tape and put a new one in We'll try to confiscate it Go ahead tell us what happened It's just the new country, folks. That's all it is! Alright sorry to interrupt here stay tuned right here on these channels for more classics from Mike Hanson Archives but I just want to take a moment to ask for your help to fund these channels

09:22 Yeah. Mhm. That's where you get it. Yeah, I had to get back there. Yeah. All right.

10:43 I'm trying to get a hold of her. Yes, sir.

11:19 I have a treat for you today. Ralph Epperson, he has been fighting the New World Order and wrote a lot of books. Can you tell us about the people of Travis County Texas? Have you ever been to Austin first of all? No I don't think so never to Austin not that i've ever remembered no well tell us who ralph epperson is

11:58 And what books have you wrote? Well, thank you very much. Ralph Epperson is a writer and historian lecturer I've been researching the conspiratorial view of history since 1963 when i started. I've written three books...I got two with me today. What do we have here? This is called The Unseen Hand It's a book about the conspiratorial view of history it's called Introduction to It this will show you there has been an actual conspiracy at work in America for over 200 years this is documented proof 500 page book but there's 600 or 1,000 footnotes to show you where I got it from. It is not my idea it's the idea of those that I'm quoting and then I wrote my second book called The New World Order this book is an attempt explain what it is and what the purpose of it is why is on the back of our dollar bill

12:47 Back in 1782 this was designed into our nation by our founding fathers and now we are fulfilling that. That means they're bringing it to us whether we like it or not so the point is I'm trying to make it known as to what why these things are happening in this country and that was the purpose of my second book What do you have any names that would that people would recognize who's behind this so-called conspiracy to? Take our liberty away and also to take our wealth away. I think that you talk a lot about the Federal Reserve Strict let me go back yes, we do know fact today at this during this seminar i'm going to play a tape of audio tape of Bill Clinton

13:28 the night he gave his democratic acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention in 1992. Bill Clinton is going to verbalize with his own mouth and admit there is a conspiracy at work in the United States. Bill Clinton said it with his own mouth, he confirmed 40 years of my research with about three sentences during this speech you see I don't believe that? I'm inviting you to find out get touch me or show you the clip I've got it Do have an email our website people can get ahold of you? If if uh... if you want it my website is if you wanna go to Google and type in Ralph Epperson, or one of the search engines. Ralph Epperson with two Ps. R-A-L P-H E-P-P-E-R S-O-N Type that in The very first site that comes up is called Ralph Epperson's Conspiracy History That's me I'm the first site on Google

14:20 So you can find that way if you wish to find me. Secondly, if you want to write to me it's Epperson, E-P-P-E-R S-O-N R-A Epperson Raw at AOL dot com. And that's me! If you wanna find me I have an 800 number call me 800 422 388 Call me, I answer the phone and we'll talk. Okay well let me ask you this, you were talking about Bill Clinton don't you think that Bush and that family is just as dangerous as Bill Clinton? One of the things that Bill Clinton admitted when he said there was a conspiracy He admitted they control, this conspiracy controls both parties equally That means we have no choice It's like a wrestling match

15:08 The wrestling match is predetermined in advance who's gonna win. So when he comes to our city, the guy with the blonde hair is the bad guy and the guy with black hair is a good guy then they go to Phoenix or another city and they reverse their roles it doesn't matter. The whole thing was predetermined just like Bush and Reagan Carter Nixon you name it all of these men with Bill Clinton admitted this with his own mouth are controlled by the same conspiracy no question about it. I did it! Are you familiar David Icke? I did an interview with David Icke and he said that all these presidents, they come from the same bloodline. Do you believe in that? Let's say it this way

15:49 I have heard that there is a bloodline with many of our presidents that you can actually trace through genealogical records. That might be true, but I don't really care it doesn't matter to me because people like Ronald Reagan were not in the bloodline but he was now our president so it doesn't matter to me David Icke makes the claim that these people are related to some sort of reptilian race they came from some planet and please understand this since I'm in your area now I am an honorary citizen of Missouri I'm from Texas though. Honorary citizen of Missouri, we're in Missouri now. We are coming to you live from Kansas City, Missouri can you believe that folks? So i'm saying this and I urge all your listeners to do as well from now on I want all of you to become an honorary citizen of Missouri why? Missourians have the claim that they are the show me state

16:41 I'm saying to David Icke, and here's an example. David Icke if you're making a claim that Queen Elizabeth is a reptilian that can change from human into lizard in front of your very eyes show us! If you can't show us then I don't have time to read or study it Study those things that you CAN prove That's why I wrote my books The evidence that i write is overwhelming It's in their own literature Stick with the facts Thank You But when I did my interview with him, his people said well you're going to give us 10 minutes but he ended up giving me an hour. He didn't mention anything about the reptilian race he stuck with the facts so i was proud of that and I agree with you we need to give the people the facts let them make their own minds up what they're gonna do

17:21 and that's been my whole life research for forty some years i document by will not make statements like cannot prove i can't prove a little short today or play an audio cassette of bill clinton admitting there is an international network he called it at work in this country i didn't say that bill clinton said himself is that the same thing as the new world order the new world orders on the back of our dollar bill was committed Our nation was committed to the New World Order by the founding fathers in 1782 when they designed the great seal of the United States. In fact, I'll invite you to listen maybe we already discussed this flip the dollar bill over on its back and look at those two circles

18:00 And then ask yourself, how many of those symbols do you know about? Do you understand? I'm saying this. I started discussing this in 1985 on a nationwide speaking tour and I could not find anyone in this country that understood what those symbols meant Now people do because I started the questioning back in 1985 The question is why don't we know what these symbols mean And I'm saying because they contain our future. Our future is the New World Order, what's that? Now i'm gonna make it very simple The New World Order is we believe in the old world order which holds these things as true the new world order Reverses everything We believe in God no god. We believe in family No family! We believe in religion

18:47 No religion. We believe in private property? No private property! You think it's impossible? Read the documented evidence that is true I'm not making this up This is what they want to do They're going to abolish private property Exactly They're going to abolish the family Exactly They'll abolish religion, exactly That's what it is It says impossible read their own words that's what I did The timetable here seems like they are moving up the time table pretty quick Do you have any Any thoughts about how long do we have before we see a total change in America? We've already, in your lifetime I'm sure and I know in my lifetime. We have seen a lot What is your thought for the future? Let me say this...I wrote this book in 1989 it was published in 1990 Now understand 1990 is 10 years before the year 2000 And I started preaching the year, watched the year 2000 In 1985 that's 15 years in advance

19:45 I expected the new world order to start on the 1st of January, 2000. In fact it's all through here, all the evidence When it didn't happen, I added a provision in the very first page that this did not happen. However, that does not mean my research was incorrect I didn't make a prediction. I based it on what they were saying themselves Maybe people like you and Alex Jones and John Stattmiller all these people put them behind schedule have you ever thought about that? And all the other millions of people who are fighting this That's exactly what i believe. I can't prove that but conversely those who don't believe that I didn't cant prove that I didn't

20:23 So I'm saying this, something changed their plans. The plan for the year January 1st 2000 was set in concrete! It's all the way through their evidence and it didn't happen why? I cannot explain that. I can only say this it didn't happen and I believe was because of your point that not only me but others started revealing the truth about a way in advance by the way this book came out before George Bush mentioned the phrase This book came out in 1990, within months before George Bush talked about it in 1990.

20:59 And this one here, this is a very famous book. I've heard about this... When did this one come out? 1985, I probably said 1985 That book is still selling It's selling word of mouth only Every major bookstore in the country can get it when they might not have one Because the books 17-18 years old But you can ask them to order if you want to read the book Buy that way but get the book and read it because there's something going on in this country and this will show what it is Well let me ask you this Ralph Is this available in the library where people can read it for free? You have to check your own individual library. Once again, the book is now 18 years old I talked to my local library that had copies they don't have anymore because they decided it wasn't being read enough so they took it off So if you can find a library ask them to buy one for ya get one for ya And once again give us your website and uh... where people can get hold of you on the internet If you wish to get touch with me anyone wants to write to me

21:56 I'm on the internet, just simply Epperson e-p-p-e-r-s-o-n and then r-a EppersonRaw at aol.com If you're on AOL yourself personally, I'm Epperson Raw look me up let's talk! Well, I want to thank you for your service and uh... i'm running for Travis County Constable. Here's what my feelings is we have to start locally We can't start with Bush and all these people. We have to start locally to protect people's rights and individual liberty And that's what I plan to do in Travis County. We should just... In fact if you want me too, I'll register in your county and vote for ya. You didn't hear that Dana! The county clerk didn't hear that We're just kidding.

22:54 Well, sometime I think that they had that happen in Texas. LBJ had some dead people voting for him One of the first books i read was a Texan looks at Lyndon famous book by who? I can't remember his name now That book Everett Haley something like that Was a very famous book that exposed the fraud of Lyndon Johnson But we elected him anyway why Why would we do that because we don't know Thats the major problem In this country We dont know And im saying were destroying ourselves It's all preordained, it's going to happen whether you like it or not. The point is that hopefully we can prevent it like we did in the year 2000 and if we do it again maybe we'll succeed keep people supporting it and maybe it will never happen. Well I agree with you and I would still encourage people to get out and vote

23:40 for Mike Hanson, for Travis County Constable and we'll be back with some more people. Thank you so much Ralph! We'll see ya and how's this thing in Kansas City going? Very well I'm very pleased good turnout a lot of response interested people these people care about their country and that's why they're here. I would urge your listeners Please start figuring this out. If we don't do anything, I'm telling you like Alex said in the very beginning We are in very serious trouble In fact we are in serious trouble but it's going to get a lot worse until we knowingly stop it I am not saying violence, I've never said violence Not saying revolution, I'm saying education That is the only answer Educate yourself We want to restore what this country was all about Because they're the ones breaking it down not us That's correct Thank you very much Hey God bless ya and we'll see you next time We'll see you right back here folks

24:27 You gonna put this on TV? I'm putting it in the roll-in. Okay, what are you gonna do put her on the roll-in no listen say say this is lieutenant Beck and I got a Clinton joke It's Lieutenant Beck. I got a... Lieutenant Beck, Commander Travis County Service. Alright! Now have a sense of humor. Anyways Monica went to her... Start over with this is Lieutenant Beck, Travis County Sheriff's Department. This is Lieutenant Beck, Travis County Sheriff's Department We do have a sense of humor. Monica went to her plastic surgeon She asked the plastic surgeon remove my love handles

25:22 The doctor looked and said, why? You wouldn't be able to hear. That's good! Got any more important numbers here we should look at? Hello folks this is Jeff Davis with the legendary Jeff Davis show from Central Texas USA and I love my cans in archives peace out baby tell us real fast lieutenant Beck before you head out of town even working hard all week How come y'all are so cowardly that you won't have a shooting contest with me when I'll defeat you up and down the street? No one backed out. Sheriff Frazier determined that it would probably be in the best interest not to do it Some people would take it in good light and support it, And I'm sure there were other people who would take it the wrong way... ...and give us all a hard time about it Tell us who you are first of all

26:21 Do I have to look in the camera? My name is Johnny Santoli and I am with KCXL 1140 AM. Right here in Kansas City we're coming to you live from Kansas City this is going to show in Austin Texas very good okay tell us Tell us what's going on here with the speakers you brought down and, uh... You know we drove up here in the middle of tornadoes. You had us driving up here in the middle of to- We had to stop at Perry Oklahoma there was like a hundred tornadoes following us Aren't there tornados in Texas? Not right now we didn't have any but we do have tornadoes but I mean I've never seen anything like this Well actually we just got hit by tornadoes last week it was very close to the station you can see William Jewell College from the station

27:07 We were very worried about the tower, but it did not get hit. So we were very thankful. But the college got hit luckily and the kids that were there didn't know to go downstairs and they didn't get hit so... Well, here's what I was going to ask you. Good thing you didn't. The truth is really beaming out What's the name of the radio station here in Kansas City if somebody just happens to be passing through from Austin Texas Travis County area coming this away? If you want to catch information in the Kansas City area go to KCXL dot-com or 1140 AM if your driving through like if your truck driver or business person and traveling through at 11 40 am we carry Alex Jones And we love Alex Jones and a lot of people are really listening to him. He's very competitive up here, a lot more people that are tuning into him are telling their friends and especially since 9-1-1 I think before 9-1-1 people were like this guy is crazy now that 9-1-1 has happened i think people are saying this guy might not be as off as we previously thought and he is getting very popular in this area well he's been on AXS TV in Austin Texas for a long time

28:11 So, I mean, I'm glad that he's expanding his radio shows. What is he on? About 100 radio stations now? Gosh! I thought it was on more but i think what helps...I think what helps is that his videos are documented and when he presents his shows he presents it with information that has documented so its done the research so it's not like this is just my opinion like so many other of the political talk shows And you can see these videos right here on either 10 or 16 for free. Right here on channel 10 or 16, we play them over and over on these channels here Excellent. Also, if you're in the Kansas City area we sell them at the KCXL bookstore But I have to cut that out because I told you can't talk about selling things Oh okay! I'm sorry That's alright, I edit It's a non-commercial station Okay if you come through Hold on a second Yeah hold on a second, I'll fix it for ya

29:04 Well, also y'all have a information store here that when you go through Kansas City you can get some free information. When you go through Kansas City where is that located in Kansas City? We found out a lot of people that listen to this type of station and to this type of information they always want talk about it and they wanna talk about their political views so we opened up the KCXL bookstore which is at 151 East Lexington and a lot of people bring in free information that they wanna share with others like Currently there's a big fluoride issue and we were able to fight it in Independence, Missouri where the bookstore is. And it didn't get passed and there was a lot of money involved so we thought for sure that it was going to get passed but a lot of people who didn't want fluoride in their water stood up fought and did not get passed. Tell us why fluoride bad? You know San Antonio one of the biggest cities that did not have fluorides in their water just passed it

29:56 San Antonio, Texas. Yes they did and Austin's had it for a long time but tell the people of Austin why they're drinking their fluoride water why it's bad for you? Fluoride to my understanding is very bad because its a sedative in fact it was used in Nazi Germany to sedate people before they went into concentration camps It is used to sedate bulls I think that still use currently if I'm correct And why do we want to put something in our children, in ourselves that's going to sedate us? I'm against anything in the water now. I consider myself a health nut. I like taking vitamin C but I don't want it in the water. Well you look good!

30:35 Well, and certainly we don't want to drink diet soda waters with aspartame in it because that is very bad too. Now I see your Dr Pepper over there my own view is I would rather have a little bit of Dr Pepper or a little bit of coke than diet anything but I do try to drink water But I do not like the diet stuff. I'd rather drink less and stay away from, of course, all-carbonated sodas but the fluoride definitely. In fact, I found in People magazine which i would say it's a very run of the mill not political either way A warning saying that if your child ingests the toothpaste to please bring them to the doctors office immediately so they're coming out with more and more studies

31:19 that is linking fluoride even with cancer. The National Cancer Society has come up with that information, not us, no radio stations, not talk shows but the Cancer Society so if they're linking it with cancer You know, why even put it in the water? Leave it out. And if you want fluoride go buy it! You can buy it Also I don't know if you knew this but there is a ton of fluoride in like Wheaties In food So they don't even know how much fluoride that your getting in your system with the food that you eat Which I did not know Wheaties had fluride But there's a lot of fluoride in Wheaties Did you know this? Hello folks its Mike Hanson here Your Facebook buddy and YouTube

36:04 Oh, back in 1960 I had an experience. About 50 now and when I was 7 years old my mom and dad went back to Cuba with me. My mom and dad were originally from Cuba He thought that Castro was the great liberator of Cuba When we got there for about 2 years It took us two years to get back off the island but we got a rude awakening to live in that country for the first two years that Castro was in power As soon as we got off the plane, they took all my dad's life savings, strip searched my mother for and took all her jewelry. Told them where to work, where to live and they took me away from my parents at gunpoint where they put in a Cuban military school for about six months And it was very hair raising experience but especially as a child But I told Alex when he had interviewed before that The things that I saw happening there parallels exactly what I see happening here

37:07 I've got nine kids and uh, I'm really... Nine? You've been pretty busy. Yeah All yours Oh yeah, yeah i've got eight on earth and one in heaven. I got two daughters in college in South Florida And the rest of my crew outside Four boys and two girls Two four six eight ten and twelve They're all looking forward to seeing Alex meeting them and being out here today Hey well God bless you hope talk to you later Thank ya if your ever in Austin ok folks we have lieutenant colonel Craig Roberts what are you gonna be speaking about today Colonel? people of Austin Texas I don't know oh I don't know me and Billy Bob was talking about this the other day. I thought I'd talk about his goat but he said now his pegs much whole lot better to talk about

38:00 Alright, welcome to the Freedom Report finally. We had some technical difficulties here, Time Warner did apparently they've been having some difficulties off and on all day And of course we got to experience the brunt of them I would expect nothing less from a Frank Cooksey run operation A little sarcasm there for you people who don't have a sense of humor The Freedom Report normally you tune in about now and be listening to The Jeff Davis Show we tell you what happened there uh... jeff davis is taken some time off for about two or three weeks he just landed a shortwave radio show on the largest basically radio broadcast in the world christian radio if you want some details on that you can dial up five one two seven oh three six seven six seven you get the details on his new show their um... he is uh... he's like many of us have gotten involved with

38:52 when you take it as seriously as we do, sometimes you sacrifice some sleep and family in order to get this information out. It's taking its toll on him right now. He and Mike both asked me to guest host tonight, and I must admit it was quite an honor to be asked to do this. This is a tough seat to sit in, and I don't pretend to be taking his place tonight. I'm only sitting in his chair. Jeff will be back though... As soon as- it's my understanding he'll be getting a new time slot as soon As soon as we get that time slot, know what that time slot is. We will make that time available to you and let you know where he's going to be at what time, what channel etc., and again if you want to find out about a shortwave broadcast just dial 512-833-9000

39:40 703-6767. By the way, this is a call in show you can call in and ask us questions here at 4772288 that's 477 live. Right I understand that. That's why was asking to get details on...on the phone? Okay that fine. Now, as far as... again I want to get into this deal with Jeff here a little bit. Let me tell you why. Okay? I've experienced some of this in my own life When you take this is seriously and some of us do And you devote much of your life To this that some of us do As many others do More and more of it There are certainly things That start being sacrificed in your life And let me tell what This kind makes me angry And I'll tell you why Jeff was

40:36 is definitely a leader in this movement. He was the original, one of the originals here in Austin, the patriarch if you will I hope I'm not embarrassing him he's not old by any stretch but he's definitely a patriarch in this movement and for someone like that to be experiencing some of things he's experiencing now as myself, as Alex Jones, uh...as many others it's not right and I'll tell ya how comes about It comes about because there are many of you right now sitting on the fence failing to do anything, failing to take your responsibility in the role of government in our lives. You're sitting there and you're watching from your homes, you're watching from your couch, listening to your radios which is better than nothing at least you are attempting to inform yourself and you realize the difference between right and wrong and you refuse to do anything about it because you refused to act because you continue to sit on the fence

41:31 There are a few of us that are forced to work harder and harder and longer hours, and sacrifice more of our personal lives in order to get this information out. In order to press this movement forward. And quite frankly it's getting to the point where it is really starting to piss me off Martin Luther King wrote something called Letters from a Birmingham Jail, and I encourage you to go down to your library read a copy of that. Martin Luther King basically raged about white ministers in Letters from a Birmingham Jail and why did he rage? He raged because he was constantly in contact and communication with white ministers in the south, white ministers who knew that segregation was wrong. Who knew that racism was wrong but refused to act they absolutely refused to act they didn't want to rock the boat they didn't wanna stir up trouble whatever their reasons were but they refuse to act

40:36 is definitely a leader in this movement. He was the original, one of the originals here in Austin, the patriarch if you will I hope I'm not embarrassing him he's not old by any stretch but he's definitely a patriarch in this movement and for someone like that to be experiencing some of things he's experiencing now as myself, as Alex Jones, uh...as many others it's not right and I'll tell ya how comes about It comes about because there are many of you right now sitting on the fence failing to do anything, failing to take your responsibility in the role of government in our lives. You're sitting there and you're watching from your homes, you're watching from your couch, listening to your radios which is better than nothing at least you are attempting to inform yourself and you realize the difference between right and wrong and you refuse to do anything about it because you refused to act because you continue to sit on the fence

41:31 There are a few of us that are forced to work harder and harder and longer hours, and sacrifice more of our personal lives in order to get this information out. In order to press this movement forward. And quite frankly it's getting to the point where it is really starting to piss me off Martin Luther King wrote something called Letters from a Birmingham Jail, and I encourage you to go down to your library read a copy of that. Martin Luther King basically raged about white ministers in Letters from a Birmingham Jail and why did he rage? He raged because he was constantly in contact and communication with white ministers in the south, white ministers who knew that segregation was wrong. Who knew that racism was wrong but refused to act they absolutely refused to act they didn't want to rock the boat they didn't wanna stir up trouble whatever their reasons were but they refuse to act

42:25 even though they knew what was happening with the world and i wish i could attribute the court be quote uh... to the right person but somebody wants that all it takes for people who prevail before a few good men do nothing and there's a lot of good man out in this audience right now better refusing to do anything as a direct result of that there are many others making way too many sacrifices in our personal life our private lives or work lives are professional live and it starting to take are told. That's why we are starting heavily, Mike Hanson myself Alex Jones Jeff Davis Wes Curtis John Foreman everybody that has been involved in this movement we're going to go into recruitment mode that is we need every available body to help out in some way shape or fashion

43:14 It doesn't matter, you can do anything. You can make phone calls, you can call into call-in shows, you can volunteer your time down here at AXS, you can research information... there are so many things that you can do without actually having to take time off from work and without taking out too much time of your private life. And isn't it worth it? We're talking about the Constitution here, we're talking about the government, we're talking about children like my two beautiful kids out in the hallway and my beautiful wife out there Isn't it worth making a few sacrifices to get this information out, to press this movement forward? I'm quite frankly sick and tired of myself and others being sacrificed to push forward this movement. I'm sick of people calling me and approaching me saying why don't you talk about this

44:00 Maybe you should tell people about that. No, YOU should tell people about that! That's YOUR responsibility I've done just about everything i could possibly do and probably beyond that Jeff Davis has done just about everything he can do and well beyond that And it started to take its toll So it's time we've been preaching to the choir Jeff's been preaching to the choir Alex has been preachin' to the choir It's time for the choir to start singing. Get up off your butt and do something, get off that fence it's time to quit riding in middle, it's time to take sides you either get on the side of evil or you get on the side of good but for God sakes get the hell out of our way! Alright right now we're gonna go through a film clip

44:43 It's an interview with Ron Neal, who has just elected the new party chair here in Austin. The libertarian party. Mike is going to roll that tape right now and interview him. We're going to hear his views on the ASAP program. Hello, my name is Ron Neal. I am the chairman of the Libertarian Party of Travis County and I want to talk with you about the ASAP program that's the Absence Student Assistance Program that's currently being conducted by the Travis County government Many parents are being surprised to see armed constables standing at their doors asking where the children are. Now, the question that we have to ask people is this a business of county commissioners court or county constable to ask where students are?

45:31 Travis County Libertarian Party believes in liberty of the individual, and the students whenever they go to school it's the schools business at that point who talk with them and teach them things they need to know. If students decide that do not want to go to school or if they want to associate with certain groups called gangs This is within the liberty of that individual. We start regulating their liberties and telling them they can't do these things, then where do we stop? Whose liberty do we go to next to try to infringe? The Libertarian Party of Travis County believes that the ASAP program should be abolished not phased back not made voluntary but abolished because it is an infringement on the basic rights of citizens living here in Travis County

46:16 If parents want to watch their children better, they can do that. Right now they can call a constable or police officer to talk with their children if they wish They don't need some strong arm coming to their door surprising an entire family and asking embarrassing questions We need your help with this program we need you To be with us Tuesday mornings at 9 o'clock at the County Commissioner's Court at the Stokes building located on 11th Street. If you'll be with us there and stand with us against this thing, we hope to be able to abolish the ASAP program. There were many parents who stood up against this thing but when they enacted it into law there wasn't one parent that was asked how they felt about the program We need your input now and we hope that you will stand with the Libertarian Party and others that are trying to abolish the ASAP program

47:09 Yeah, I gotta tell you that was a very nice piece by Ron there. He's come out full swing in support of getting rid of the ASAP program. I myself feel like I need to have some integrity on the issue. I've always pushed for making the program voluntary and let me be careful there...I'm not trying to say make the law voluntary as Judge Alshar would try to twist my words and have you believe what i believe is that the process of sending consuls to your door to ask about your children, why weren't they in school today etc. I believe that portion should be voluntary How would you do that? When you enroll kids at the beginning of year and filling out enrollment forms it would be nice to have a form there explaining how it all works

47:54 And you would either sign up for the program saying yes, if my child's absence and it is an unexcused absence I give you permission to come into my house and check on that situation or no. I want no part of this program. That way it becomes a constitutional program and it empowers parents because there are many parents out there apparently who feel the need to use gentlemen in uniforms with badges and guns to get their children to go to school And if they want that for their children, even if I think their choices are stupid ones by God I'll support their right to make stupid decisions. And that's why I've advocated making this program voluntary We're going to go some calls right now and I'm sure the lines are jammed up Keep calling That number is 477-2288 That's 477-CALL Just keep trying The lines will free you up and we'll try get through a bunch of your calls right now Go ahead

48:46 Hello? Caller, you're on the air. Hey, how are you doing? Pretty good. I think I might have turned on the show a little bit later but I was wondering could you tell me what happened to Jeff Davis' show? Yeah. You might have explained it but like I said... No that's all right! I was expecting this tonight. The Jeff Davis Show still is in existence. Jeff has decided to take a break for a couple of weeks maybe three weeks tops he and Mike Hanson asked me to be here i feel very honored to be here by the way I think it's fantastic that i've been given this time to do this. Again, I'm not trying to fill his spot by any means. He has gotten a shortwave radio show which you can

49:30 Right. Okay, he's on shortwave now I have to be careful here it is on Christian radio there are many rules at access and we're just learning about some of them so we're trying to tip toe through this situation but anyway he is going to be on shortwave radio and christian radio uh... there's many different ways to inquire about that you can just figure it out on your own as we go through the show um... but he will be back at the news we find out what his time slot here we will be telling everyone in will be a are definitely glad having back we're gonna go than i thought Caller, go ahead. Yeah, how's it going there? Oh pretty good. Alright yeah one of our most brilliant patriots Thomas Jefferson once said if the people or if the government fears the people... Well caller I don't mean to interrupt you sorry I just uh I lost the sound of you caller and I can't hear anything you're saying right now so it's kind of been the nature of the show tonight um they're gonna adjust that and bring you up here in a second

50:36 Can you hear me now? Oh, OK. Yeah I can hear you back now. Sorry about that. Many technical difficulties down here. That's all right yeah it doesn't surprise me here with Time Warner but... Yeah well you know Cooks you know Anyways Thomas Jefferson once said if government fears the people we have liberty and if the people fear the government we have tyranny. I agree totally As were on the verge of gun control right now The people need to wake up out there and get it together. the amount of bullets that contained within the clips. Do you know something about that? Yeah, that's correct I think there was like 50 weapons that are now banned and uh... They don't take it all at once they do it little by little Right! I think there is only 20 right now specifically named Oh, I know what it was I heard someone from the National Rifle Association today speaking about this They said there were approximately twenty rifles specifically named in the original

52:00 94 Clinton gun ban and then there's roughly 200 that are in essence banned because of their features. And through the way it was being explained to me, and again I haven't researched this yet so I don't quite have the facts but what was being explained by this NRA person was that Clinton through executive order is trying to further change make changes to that Clinton gun ban as far as the cosmetics It's ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. But whatever, King Clinton is going to go for it.

52:45 Caller! Oh. Caller go ahead. Hello Steve Rick. I'll becker here. Hey, Rick How's it going fine? Just finally you're announcing your name That's that's total that's very brave of you go ahead Oh yeah Listen what did Alex? Did Alex Jones this how did he plead that day that he was took in you know what?

53:28 Alex is actually going to be on at the end of the show for a few minutes. I'll tell you what, if you could call back in or I'll make sure to whisper in his ear and tell him that... Yeah, I'd like to know how he pled and what he plans to do. If he pled not guilty within time frame that's allowed by law, I would really like to know You know see what we can do to help him on that. I'm still slowly but surely checking the Texas session law on truancy provision right and I'm going to have to go back to Probably doing a little looking around at one of the major University libraries around here and To get you the answers that were looking for but it still looks like like Bill Aushauer And his friends in Travis County are

54:16 are wishing that they had what they have in Florida. You remember I checked that out, and they haven't expressed legislation in Florida that the legislature gave law enforcement people to go to people's homes. again i don't know that call myself a conspiracy theorist but i'm not a coincidence there's the other but i will tell you the last uh... tuesday commissioner's court where they made the few incremental changes to the ace at program i think is a direct result of us rallying against it that sunday on uh... on our program on cbs sixty minutes

54:57 They ran a story about a similar program down in, I believe it was Jacksonville Florida. And what was unique about that program is Rick alluded to it a little bit they actually have specific legislation which allows them to do that also too and again I didn't get the whole story I tried to go to 60 Minutes website today and I've got the 800 number I need to buy that video cassette But at any rate, the part that I caught was that they get parents after their kids are truant for a while to sign an agreement saying alright we'll try our hardest to get this kid to school and if we fail in this responsibility you can come arrest me. It was something to that effect they signed a contract and uh... i think it's interesting that they go ahead and arrest these parents

55:42 with a lot of news cameras and they admitted it right there in sixty minutes they said oh yeah we try to take all the media weekend if an amethyst to be parents and one of the really unique things was that they asked one of the gentleman there i think he was the prosecuting attorney and they fed up what do you think about this parents who say you know you're going too far uh... you've gone too far your your overstepping your your authority and he said well i don't know that were over stepping into certainly were pushing it could very limit But isn't it all worth it because it's for the children? And I'm not kidding. I've paraphrased it loosely, but he did say that it's for kids and in that essence you're allowed to defecate all over the Constitution. Well at least over there in Florida they... The citizens of Florida stood still or asked their legislature to approve this and that's their business

56:30 Here in Texas, we have very clearly a law that does not allow this to happen. There's nothing ambiguous about the language Bill Ausher tried to make it sound like it is and I'm going to keep going further back into time for the section laws to the very exact section of the education code, 25.091A that one little sentence where it doesn't mention law enforcement at all and when I get it we're going to go to the commissioner's court again on a Tuesday and read it to him and see if you or any other person with access producer

57:12 has this to put on your CG there and apparently we're going to demonstrate that the leaders in Travis County, they can't read. Oh, they... no. They just... Liberals are just that way anyway. When it comes to obeying the written law they've got no use for it. Rick I can't wait until I get to uh... To get to the person who helped author and sponsor that bill There's specific points of that law that were written there to protect your privacy and situational sustainability Exactly And when I get that guy who helped craft that legislation or those gentlemen You guys are tromping all over everything we work for. We put this here just so people, just in order that people... Oh look at the little wily little female on your shelf. I love it! They're not going to show the big hulking guy thats actually probably going to your door. I used to work with some of those people in Travis County.

58:13 But there are some people up there that I used to work with, they look like they could be linebackers for the pros. And you're tromping all over that, and I can't wait to see their faces and see them trying to squirm out of that because they've tried to manipulate my words. They've tried to shut me down. In fact, it's interesting if you look at the Channel 17 tapes from the Commissioner's Court from that day, you'll see that... You can't see off camera but many people could testify to this in some of the videos we have

58:49 uh... that uh... the county attorney or one of these is the country's actually swooped down next to me and i'll add in here this because i was very focused on what i had a say but apparently they were threatening to arrest me and one of them it said something about get a camera apparently did i don't know take a picture of me getting arrested or whatever because let me make an important point there now this makes me angry Judge Alshire, you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. You are supposed to follow the law. The law is Title I of the Commissioner's Court and I believe it's Section 1.016 which says very clearly that the Commissioner's Court adopts Robert's Rules of Order as its rules to follow

59:36 And he clearly violated Texas state law when he told me, Mr. Lane sit down you're through there was a debatable motion that had been made I have the floor He did not take the necessary steps to suspend, limit or end debate. All he said was Mr Lane you're through sit down let me tell you something I took time off work and spent an incredible number of hours researching the ASAP program. I paid $11 for parking down there and he's telling me, oh Mr. Lane you're going to have to sit down and be quiet no! And i refuse to be quiet and ill tell you something right now they were this close to carting me away and ida let them do it save one thing my five year old girl was there because i brought her there i wanted her there for moral support from me so that could look at her and be inspired by that my wife was their my beautiful eight month old baby with air and i thought myself

1:00:31 if i get carted off by the police in front of my five-year-old little girl that seriously could affect it's not gonna factor all live but i think you could have hurt her emotionally for maybe even a couple years and i wasn't going to let him do that but i'll tell you right now after at the only reason he didn't caught my butt off that day i'd like we all got a good lesson in liberal this is the classic liberals yeah they have absolutely no use for the law when it doesn't work today and that's right and and yeah i can work you don't doubt sharpens when these lawsuits come, when there's a lawsuit filed Judge Aushar is going to be long gone. He's not going to be able to clamp the mess. Actually no we're pressing ahead there will be a lawsuit filed sooner than that I have no doubt about it but by the time it comes to a decision by court or judge yeah I agree he'll be gone Hey Rick I don't mean to be rude were gonna get to a couple more quick calls and then were gonna get an interview with Lieutenant Beck thanks for calling Rick

1:01:25 Caller go ahead. Hey, pretty good Thank you, yeah I like that First of all I am prepared to write a letter or follow up in some way to our legislators, whoever we need to contact. To try and repeal this law. It's my understanding that Alabama

1:02:02 I think it was Alabama. It's either Alabama or Georgia, Alex knows about it. Right they denied it because are they not receiving federal funding for highways? Um...I believe they are actually this is a suggestion and I haven't got a chance to speak to Alex this past week what I was going to suggest kind of I think what you're suggesting If they've somehow managed to get rid of it, we need to model what they're doing there. Copy everything almost verbatim if they managed to get rid of it I think what they only managed to do is postpone it but I don't know again Alex will be here later maybe he can explain that a little bit There's a website about that and I got the glance at it last night Unfortunately my apartment was ripped off about a week ago The police department was no help

1:02:48 They're all busy out tracking down those troops. about repealing that and if not, I am now driving illegally because i do not have a new driver's license. Well you're driving without a license that doesn't mean you are driving illegally If we get down to the real technical libertarian constitutional view of that You're quite legal driving without a license. Can I keep getting a little ringing here? Yeah Sorry Is your TV turned down It is all the way down Okay I don't know what they are doing Okay

1:03:28 What I was also going to say is that if we have another demonstration like we had, I think were gonna have to really get some even bigger numbers out there. I know there are hundreds and hundreds of people in this town. I talk with them every day. Yeah well they're a bunch of fence riders. Right now there's so many people riding that fence just being a cheering section hey were gonna let you go and get to it on another call here but at any rate there's a lot of people just being cheerleaders and they think they're doing a great job by cheerleading. What they really need to do is get into the game, stop staying on the sidelines, get into the game pick a side either be my enemy or be my friend but stop making me figure out which one you are By the way speaking of protest Texans for Freedom

1:04:14 including Jeff Davis and Alex Jones will be leading an IRS protest that's at downtown, is that at the IRS building or the post office? Oh there it is right there. At the post office in Guadalupe 6th, that's April 15th, a real April Fool's Day, April 15 1998 at six o'clock p.m., we Look, for all you people that just can't seem to find your way to do anything. My God it's 6 o'clock at night! Get your butt down there and act like you care Don't call in and pat people on the back saying oh great job Go down there and do a great job yourself It is time we pick sides Line up and show your true colors Show us which are you my enemy or are you my friend? Because right now there is too many of you I cant tell the difference

1:05:03 because there are too many enemies that sit silent and there's too many friends that sit silent. This is why we're making this recruiting call, this is why we're going to be doing this over the next couple months it's time to increase the numbers its time to increase the unity We have proved you that you can get up off your butt do something make a difference let's get everybody involved and make an incredible difference right now were gonna go through little interview here with Lieutenant Beck of Travis County Sheriff's SWAT team, which by the way I have invited and he has accepted, graciously accepted I might add to be our featured speakers at the Texas Best Seminars Downsized Government Conference. That's the last Sunday this month let's go to that tape

1:05:47 Here we are with Lieutenant Beck, commander of the Travis County SWAT team. And I have to tell you he's been one of the most honest people through this whole shenanigan and appreciate ya being out here talking to us sir. Anytime, man. Listen when you invited me over last week to talk to y'all were real friendly and explained things to me that basically y'all didn't really weren't sure on the law that why y'all approached me gave me the uh... code about false alarm report but again i want to thank you for agreeing to come out to the Downside Government Conference this next Sunday, but the last Sunday of next month to come out and try to reassure people that local law enforcement is going to stay local. And they are gonna try to be our guardians here locally against the federal government or at least y'all will uphold Constitution correct? That's correct we'll be there I'll be there. Yes thank you for your honesty and again that it's going to be not

1:06:38 this month the last Sunday of March but the last Sunday of April. That's at 130 at the Cherry Inn on North I-35 we appreciate you coming out and listen bring anybody else you want, the FBI everybody is invited so they know that we are good citizens that appreciate law enforcement were just worried about Bill Clinton and Janet Reno right now. So i'll be there thank you very much sir. Alright Alex. Thanks a lot. What did I get off with 50 bucks? This is advertising! Lieutenant Beck, again commander of the Travis County SWAT team.

1:07:26 Lieutenant Beck again, commander of the Travis County SWAT team. Now what's this about the challenge I've issued to y'all that I can out shoot ya'll for a six pack of Coca-Cola? Bet I can! was it coca-cola I think you said a six pack of beer i'll be glad to have that too what's the challenge now the challenges from you out is with the Remington 700 with a goodly uphold scope at 200 yards on a low wind day I can shoot into same hole after couple shots how many rounds? I could shoot into same hole with five rounds. Five rounds not in a row, I'm saying with five shots I can shoot... yeah we got guys who will take ya on You got guys who will take me on? Six pack of beer alright hey one more question

1:08:10 What are you going to do one day if the MJTF under Clinton commands you go door-to-door and take firearms? I don't even think there is such a thing. Oh, there isn't such a thing as the MJF? Is that top secret sir? I don't think so. It must be because I don't know about it. Let me ask you one more question did you hear about Secretary of Defense William Cohen creating this new 10 region The rapid reaction anti-terrorist and anti-militia team security force? No, I've never heard of that. That's to work with local law enforcement. That was on CNN last week right after...in fact the very day I talked to you and you assured me that would never happen they are now doing it and they're finalizing it for a 10 region FEMA team hooked up with the Defense Department

1:08:50 On that the gas deal or something though What were they talking about the gas? No chemical weapons. Well under the guise of that under the guise of terrorism They talk about how the military Under FEMA and Joint Task Force control with the Defense Department are going to be working with local law enforcement I told you yeah, I know about this. I heard about this here Here's a You need some powder on your head, shine boy. Good thing the windows are tinted. Oh people are up there? What are people up here? So your commandos are on the roof again? Nah we're doing boards today. Or is that a satellite I see or is that a black helicopter? We appreciate it commander

1:09:37 Any time These guys are going to be in the revolution with us when Clinton tries to take over When we think over now, I'm Clinton. Okay? What about her seriously you're aware that the un wants restrict our fossil fuels and it's taken over some of our national parks under The man in biosphere act and Clinton gave him the executive order for immunity in these actions executive order 12,000 986 are you familiar where that was in a back door No, I'm not. How about I get you some documents on that? Yeah bring them! I'd like to read them and then you can research it out of the actual Federal Registry and everything for yourself and find out that Clinton really is selling us out Yeah, bring him I like to see you. I bet you he could tell you all the ingredients to a Budweiser beer Thank you very much Let me tell you something Lieutenant Beck is

1:10:37 I've engaged him in many conversations now over the telephone. He's a genuine article, man! If you want to see the quintessential police officer that has been around for awhile and pretty much seen it all—not too rattled by just about anything—you can definitely see him at the Downside Government Conference last Sunday this month at the Chariot Inn. We're going to take a few more calls here now. I know it's jammed up, the lines are jammed keep calling that number is 477-2288 we're gonna try to take some calls her for about another five minutes or so caller go ahead Steve? Yes You have 13 minutes and 40 seconds sorry not Terry Parker show

1:11:28 Caller go ahead. Mr.. Steve yes, yeah I've been watching the Jeff Davis showing everybody for like about a year or so uh-huh and I like what y'all doing like what you're saying mm-hmm And it's I don't like you calling me a couch potato just because you know I just watch I mean But I do talk to people at work and stuff like that but I mean look at it like don't you think some people are kind of nervous about getting involved because The government, you know if they find out they can take away your whole life and everything. I mean what am i supposed to do? Go to the seminars? They get my license plate and then they come rip out carry me away with my wife and job and everything. I got this at stake. Well let me tell you something... Let me tell you something, the path we have started down

1:12:20 If you continue down it, you will have no life. You'll have no car. You'll have no license. You'll have no freedom whatsoever." I don't know where I heard it? Gosh! I wish I could attribute these quotes correctly but I'm sorry I can't. I heard somewhere your heart is free. You must have the courage to follow it Now, you know in your heart that these things are wrong. And when you refuse to stand up and do something about it... You're a big monster though! ...you are part of the problem. Standing by doing nothing is contributing to the problem. I mean standing by and watching... No way, I've got a question for you. If you were walking down the street and saw man start to get brutally beaten just apparently for no reason to you would you stand and watch idly by?

1:13:06 Well, I mean that's a hypothetical question. It certainly is! But yet you'll watch... You're talking about the big monster? Wait let me finish, you'll watch your Constitution... There's nothing really much i can do if it's a big monster guy beating somebody up I was gonna do something. You can hop in your car and run him down, you could call the police... There are so many things you can do! Well obviously- You're thinking too obvious. You're thinking about oh i can get in there and throw some blows? And you may be right with these larger issues that we're talking about. Yeah. I don't pretend to think you can go take on Bill Clinton but you CAN go take on your city council. You CAN go take on your county government. You can even take on your state governor. We have proved it. There's no excuse anymore to not do this. Well do people mess with me?

1:13:51 Did people follow you around? I have never caught anybody following me. The only strange phone calls that I get are from people riding the fence. Seriously, I get people calling my house and they say, why don't you talk about this? You're missing the point on this. You know, they're the ones that should be talking about it. They're almost experts on it. Well if you watch Jeff and Alex's people for a year you are going to be more knowledgeable than any other show out there. I agree! That is a step in the right direction and I'm not criticizing people for watching. I am criticizing people just watching. It's time to take sides. Hey we are going to have to get another call.

1:14:32 people are scared maybe some people are scared because they don't want to lose what they got at least. They don't want the big government sug boots, jackboots and sugs. But see that's exactly what they want you to believe would you rather live one day truly free? One day! One day truly free or a hundred days in tyranny which would you rather choose I know which i'd choose I choose the one-day hey we gotta get to the next call thanks for calling caller go ahead hi how are you this afternoon pretty good pretty good uh... this is Leland listen I've many times been watching Alex and Jeff and you guys everything. And I heard Alex talk about the executive order that gives the, about the urine testing and everything. And I have been trying to look it up on the internet but I can't find it. You know what? Does somebody have a copy of that?

1:15:21 Can somebody give me a number? Yeah, it's in the federal registry. I've seen a copy of it- they're getting a copy of it right now. I'll tell you what if you'll do this... If you'll uh Do you have another question we could talk about here while somebody is getting that and we can come back up later on and I'll bring that up and I'll email you which website to go today. Today I was watching on CNN The president was doing signing into this new weapons bill for the children of the kids that were shot in Mississippi. Well you notice, wait...you noticed he did that while Congress was out of session? Of course! Now see that's no accident and you'll notice too with a Clinton administration all bad news comes out on Saturday That's not an accident They know all their friends are in the media they know how to manipulate How do try to manipulate Well hello folks it's Mike Hanson here