Monday, 16 February 2026

Special Edition(Classic 1997) Jeff Davis And Alex Jones Discuss The Big Lies Of The World [SSey8DvP6QI]

A vintage 1997 broadcast reveals the early warnings of Alex Jones regarding the United Nations, biometric tracking, and the federalization of American law enforcement.

By Mike Hanson Archives | 58m listen | 20 chapters
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About this episode

Alex Jones and Jeff Davis expose the hidden mechanisms of the New World Order in this 1997 broadcast from Central Texas. Jones details his transition from a skeptic of Channel One school broadcasts to a vocal critic of the Council on Foreign Relations and the United Nations. The discussion centers on the claim that international bankers, including the Federal Reserve and the World Bank, are orchestrating a global transition toward a centralized police state by the year 2000.

The dialogue covers the Kyoto Protocol as a tool for American de-industrialization and the alleged role of the CIA in domestic drug trafficking to maintain public apathy. Jones cites the 1996 defense appropriations bill as evidence of $8 billion allocated for urban warfare training and stockade facilities on US soil. Additional reports include the presence of German and Russian troops in Mississippi, the use of black helicopters for domestic surveillance, and the implementation of biometric thumb-scanning in Texas as a precursor to universal microchip implants. The hosts also analyze the influence of Ted Turner and Paul Volcker in expanding global governance while the middle class remains distracted by professional sports and media diversions.

This archival footage captures the early ideological foundations of the independent media movement. Alex Jones delivers a passionate closing statement urging listeners to reclaim their human spirit against the psychological conditioning of the state. Mike Hanson concludes the program with a call to preserve these historical records through the Mike Hanson Archives and Waco Archives projects.


CHAPTER 01 / 20 Discussion

Jeff Davis Show Introduction, Alex Jones Guest Appearance

Jeff Davis introduces a special edition of his program from Central Texas featuring guest Alex Jones. The broadcast aims to expose global deceptions and the federalization of local police departments. Davis references historical origins of the Illuminati dating back to 1776 and claims that "One Worlders" are currently behind schedule in their agenda due to American resistance.

jeff davis· alex jones· austin texas· illuminati· adam weishaupt· police state

00:00 Hello folks, this is Jeff Davis with the legendary Jeff Davis show from Central Texas USA and I love my cans and archives Peace out baby. Hello Austin Texas and we are back This is a special edition of The Jeff Davis Show And we're going to be talking today with Mr Alex Jones many viewers of this program know Alex I want to just mention that before we get started here I want to just mention, first off I appreciate the crew of this program. They do a fantastic job down here. They are dedicated and they definitely do a fantastic job in all this.

00:48 Before we get started with the heavy duty stuff here, now we've got a lot of informative materials from the Foreign Affairs Publications. Many different publications that were going to be talking about here tonight but basically what we're gonna be exposing here folks to you is The Big Lie Of The World and it encompasses many different facets and concerning as far as diversions that they use, how they're setting up a police state. Well have actually already set up a police state and they are now federalizing our local police departments The total plan going back from Adam Weishaupt the founder of the Illuminati in 1776 and beyond that how we believe due to resistance in those pesky Americans

01:44 We have the One Worlders slightly behind schedule for what they are trying to accomplish here. And without any further ado, I want to welcome to the Jeff Davis program here tonight Mr Alex Jones. Alex Jones welcome to the program sir. Appreciate that Jeff Let me just bring you in Alex briefly we've got a lot of things we want to talk about here tonight or today and this I believe this has the potential of a very dynamic show. I want to just ask you briefly as far as, uh... A little bit about yourself and then basically how and why did you get involved in this type of information? This type of movement? Well Jeff, I don't claim to be an angel nor does anybody in this movement that's what impressed me about people My parents taught me things they're both successful

CHAPTER 02 / 20 Discussion

Alex Jones Background, Media Propaganda Skepticism

Alex Jones describes his upbringing and the development of his independent thinking, noting his early distrust of Channel One school broadcasts. He argues that the traditional left-right political paradigm is a false construct controlled by wealthy families to prevent new wealth formation. Jones details his transition from believing in the two-party system to viewing the media as a tool for state propaganda and totalitarian behavior.

channel one· left-right paradigm· media manipulation· propaganda· independent thinking

02:46 They taught me how to be an independent thinker. And they're happy with society, they never really indoctrinated me on anything. They said you think whatever you want Alex. Then I just when I got to about 18 probably 17 years old in high school... ...I would see the Channel One being beamed in from Washington telling us America was bad and socialism was good. I would hear all this ridiculous shenanigans and I wasn't sure. And, I would watch how things worked and I've just got half a brain really! And, I could see the manipulation...I could see the lies. Once somebody's lied to me repeatedly Jeff, I'm not going to trust somebody once they've lied to me 100 times

03:34 And our media has been caught from the food line to the Chevrolet pickups, blowing those up. You know they're just engaged in total propaganda and then I found out who controls them? I found out that the whole left-right paradigm is all false. I find out that it's really all a bunch of super rich corrupt families who really don't want any new wealth to be formed and...I'll tell you the truth, I used to think we could still work within the two party system And I used to watch your program and think, no Jeff's wrong. Sure there are some militarizations sure there probably are a few black helicopters The Fed may be bad Yeah yeah I mean I knew the Fed was private and I knew that nobody would talk about it at universities but then Then...I saw the big picture because

04:25 I guess it was the respect that i had for the media, not an outright respect but I grew up with my parents and grandparents seeing them watch television and respect what people said because they're good people. And they thought that the people on television were like them decent people They just... we judge the people around us kind of by the way we are If you'r a good person your pretty trusting Then at certain point when I saw the media begin to even admit this stuff and act like, hey what's wrong with the police state? Hey what's wrong with totalitarian behavior it's for the children. Then i began respect you a lot more and more I've read into this information When I find out photographs right here of the UN burning Somali children that will show later And when I took a trip around the country just three months ago my documentary will be out soon and...and..and....I saw for myself Jeff I saw for myself

CHAPTER 03 / 20 Discussion

Human Destiny, Global Financial Control Tactics

The discussion shifts to the difficulty individuals face when realizing they are not in control of their own destiny. Jeff Davis identifies the Federal Reserve, the World Bank, and international bankers as the primary entities enslaving the public. The hosts compare modern media diversions to the "bread and circuses" used by the Roman Empire to manipulate the masses.

federal reserve· world bank· international bankers· propaganda· social engineering

05:27 get a more twelve thousand nine hundred eighty six what's wrong with you let him run the parts of the world and then i found who controls the u n corrupt interest people are delusional they will not face up to what's happening marriages it is that it is uh... alex actually very hard uh... paradigm to reach because as we were talking outside numbers could be very blot with you in the viewers of this program

06:05 I had mentioned to you that when i was 34 years old after a couple of years of research on this, I basically woke up to the understanding that this whole thing everything I had taught and everything I have been taught. You know it was basically false and that doesn't matter if its military... It's hard to accept that because.. Right! It is very hard to accept but the whole world as lie but essentially the more that you study it then even the more you start to see you realize that basically we are essentially not really in control of our own destiny. Other people are deciding and manipulating things, and if they allow us to gain some materialistic things... ...and allow us to proceed with some things then we'll have it but essentially we're not in control of our own destiny

06:53 That's hard for a man to accept. Very hard for people to accept because if they've bought into the lie as I did, it is very hard to accept. Let me just talk to you a little bit Alex about You know, we were talking privately and I want to keep it at that because i think we're very effective when we sit around privately. Oh, its incredible! And talk about this stuff. I think that would be the most powerful discussion we could have here tonight But we talked about some of the things that the enemy, and that's what they are. We're not going to spend a lot of time on this program here tonight talking about the enemy. Anybody who studies it knows its Federal Reserve and World Bank and International Bankers What we want to talk about today is some of the tactics, some of the diversions, some of the mechanisms that the enemy has used

07:55 to enslave us. Very painful to see how people lap these lies up, To manipulate us What is your understanding Alex and I believe that you're constantly growing well actually we are all constantly growing in the understanding of some of these things because it's a very powerful propaganda machine what is some of the understandings that you've seen as far as some It's like Rome. With the slaves of Rome, they used diversions... bread and circuses, gladiators What do you see in this modern day system tactics that the current emperors are using against the American public? Jeff I'm tired being a pompous person who's... I never really meant pompous but if want to feel pompous when you see how stupid people are because that scares me i'm not even smart it so obvious

CHAPTER 04 / 20 Discussion

UN Industrial Restrictions, Ted Turner Influence

Alex Jones claims the United Nations intends to restrict American industrial output by 20% while exempting other nations. He cites Ted Turner's billion-dollar donation to the UN as evidence of corporate and globalist alignment. The segment explores the idea that global leaders seek to "debase" the human spirit and dismantle the family unit through psychological conditioning.

united nations· ted turner· industrial output· actv· social engineering

08:51 But what's funny is, you and I were once... Dumb as dirt. We were all born into this lie. We're once dumb as dirt. So the understanding is that we can all awaken from these? You can awake from a deep sleep if they want to keep you in it. Jeff, the scariest part that I finally had realized was when I was part of the system. I would think well yeah, we could fight in the system and change things within the system And then when I saw that it is all a delusion controlled by corrupt crime interest, very sophisticated crime interest to think of us as animals and useless feeders as Ted Turner said. You know now the reality is no one wants talk about the UN they're fixing restrict our industrial output but 20% but no one else has to do anything. The UN now owns part of ACTV and people who just heard that they won't check it out that Ted Turner gave him $1 billion in choice stock

09:48 The scary part is they don't care about us. They actually as leaders want to mutate us mentally I don't mean in a genetic sense but they want to give us the most low-level thoughts, teach us to be the most rat like creatures that only care about the baseline of posing and the human spirit of the general population because their criminal spirit is very threatened by the basic family unit It's very threatened by ingenuity and self-realization. It is extremely threatened... ...by humans wanting to achieve their potential in a legal manner, and so they wish to criminalize the whole system through thuggery and debase us down the level of rodents. Yeah those are some excellent points Alex I want just

CHAPTER 05 / 20 Discussion

Drug War, CIA Involvement Claims

Jeff Davis alleges that the Central Intelligence Agency is involved in smuggling large quantities of drugs into the United States to control the population. He asserts that the "War on Drugs" is actually a mechanism to manage competition and maintain public apathy. The conversation links drug importation, taxation, and public school curriculum as tools used by the "enemy" to enslave the public mind.

cia· drug war· social control· public schools· apathy

10:46 Some of the diversions that I want to just touch briefly on some of the specifics. You know, I personally believe that the enemy is smuggling in large portions of drugs into this country and I'm just talking about this country folks This is a world order. I personally know with...and again I say this quite often because people need understand I don't wanna endanger my family but not my father or mother but other members of my family have been involved in the Central Intelligence Agency And let me tell you, we... they're the ones. The whole drug war police here in town have told me it's all about controlling competition Yeah Well let me just make my point here Now there are several elements of diversions that what I believe the American people, the enemy of the American people Again this is a world problem so i'm just addressing the American People

11:40 several diversions that the enemy of this world uses, one of them being the importation of drugs to control people's minds and the control of public schools. apathy. I want to have Alex touch upon that here in just a moment here, but there's many different social programs control people taxes control people various different mechanisms that the enemy is using now because we had talked about this privately outside before the program began here today. I want to ask Alex about

CHAPTER 06 / 20 Discussion

Sports Diversions, Group Psychology in Media

The hosts critique the public's obsession with professional sports, specifically mentioning the Dallas Cowboys and the Longhorns, as a form of psychological diversion. They argue that citizens are conditioned to know every nuance of sports and fashion while remaining ignorant of their congressional representatives or the Federal Reserve. This obsession is described as a tool to keep the population in a state of "delusional serfdom."

dallas cowboys· group psychology· commercialism· apathy· geopolitical awareness

12:22 Many of, you know we sit and talk about this. We have private discussions about this and how lot of people are just caught up in the Dallas Cowboys or caught up in... Cheeseburger Yeah cheeseburger going to their job Ted Koppel Dan Rather football go on the bed How do you believe well there's no belief about it but what are some other various mechanisms that you see that they have created to what I consider to be one of the greatest problems and that is just being basically make people apathetic to what's happening around them. Jeff, you just said it. It's group psychology through the media and its well-packaged lies they make people accept the false idea that they are part of the system That they are part of the establishment That they have a stake in the status quo

13:21 And I got news for you, the status quo is dumbing down on the public. Brainwashing the youth Stagnating The intelligentsia into a click of twits Um... and everything is looks and glamour and glitz No one really- You know the old saying used to be a great saying Never judge a book by its cover Need to read deep into that book before you know what's going on Maybe that's one of the beauties of my life Is I've been lucky enough to have been taught made a lot of mistakes. But to take my time checking things out, not to make up my mind on something... Yeah that's good because a lot of people are you know just reacting instead of thinking. Stop reacting start acting! Start thinking! Exactly and you want to talk about diversions I mean we make the joke a lot woo Dallas Cowboys woo Longhorns oh is that commercialism? And people

14:30 sit around for hours instead of talking about politics and their families' lives, and how they can move forward. How they could be an active part in the real world of geopolitics and realpolitics Rather, they're taught to be obsessed with a little puck or ball or bat. Or a mitten and...and..to know the whole science and the whole nuance of fashion Of whatever cup of tea they lay out a whole platter of diversions Yes sir And once you take in Once you drink from that cup It's over

15:06 and they get you obsessed and you learn the whole science all your people i watch a great live sports can i know you enjoy sports are watching randy and watcher you know your your your uh... european your football teams does that mean the morning ur slave is that me that's all you're obsessed with our minds are still free yes these people will focus one hundred ten percent body and soul only on the sports. Yeah, and they won't know what's happening around them And they know every nuance but they can't tell you who their representative is They can't tell you who their congressman or senator They can't tell you who the mayor is sometimes What the Federal Reserve is They can't tell you basics The basic foundation of their society and what they are is sadly enough

15:56 delusional serfs, slaves, minions whatever you want to call them and I don't say this to feel better about people it frightens me because i'm in the river with them we're flowing together in this big massive humanity. The only difference is that we understand some of these things and many people do not now you've been mentioning to me privately Alex about a uh... I am not going to mention any movie but a quote that has been stated here recently and that is basically that every man dies But not every man really lives. You got it! And I think that's so appropriate... Every man dies, but every man doesn't live? There are a lot of people men and women in fact that actually are just kind of literally just zombie types. But i don't want to get into the discussion about insulting people but the fact is folks you know we've lost many of our rights here now in this country

CHAPTER 07 / 20 Discussion

Kyoto Protocol, American De-industrialization Plans

Jeff Davis and Alex Jones discuss Al Gore's trip to Kyoto, Japan, to negotiate environmental restrictions on fossil fuels. They characterize the Kyoto Protocol as a premeditated plan for the de-industrialization of America through lopsided tariffs and regulations. Jones urges listeners to reclaim their "human spirit" and stop ignoring the perceived dehumanization of the country.

al gore· kyoto japan· fossil fuels· tariffs· environmental laws

16:56 and we're losing many of our resources, and many of you all still. But Jeff! Still are not... Jeff the collective has been strengthened mightily. Still many have laid down to what's happening And the banker's power has only been increased I want just now before get into next topic here We wanted basically what were doing here folks is exposing What i know as a lie in this world and we're visiting with Alex Jones, he's a local radio host. Also has some couple of shows down here on Austin Cablevision or Time Warner I want to just mention a couple things here first off folks kind of what we've been...to kinda tie this into a point We've been talking about

17:50 little bit about this I'm gonna let Alex expand on this before we for our move on to something else, but there's this title here says a lot here Alex as far as what's happening to our world and Let me just put it up here briefly here in spiracy for global control And it's the front of my face But that's okay folks because this is important information and I don't care if my face is covered go ahead Alex tell us a little bit about how What this is all about here, what does magazine is stating? Basically people figured out a long time ago from the time of the first kings that it's the man that has to guard. The force, the power and who was willing to squash his subjects who has the control and they figured out doesn't matter whose got the best ideas or anything what matters is if you've got the force in the control resources

18:41 America is in a struggle for its very lifeblood right now. This month, by the time this program's airing it'll be going on live Al Gore is gonna go to Kyoto Japan and he's gonna restrict our fossil fuel and power intake up to 20% and no one else has to comply with anything America has to have tariffs against it of upwards of 15% in every other country, but we have a 2% on average in other countries. America has to deal with no environmental laws and other countries and no human rights but we have all that which is good! It's a de-industrialization plan not by accident, not by folly these people had the power because they're premeditated and they're evil

19:22 It's easy to ignore this. You won't have to get a headache and bust your brain about thinking about it if you just ignore it, but my God! You could be human being and you could think about it. And exactly every man dies but not every man lives. If people could just for one second feel the human spirit and stop this dehumanization...it would be incredible Let me just move on to the next, and Alex you're doing a fantastic job. Folks basically what this is all about here

CHAPTER 08 / 20 Discussion

Historical Roots of Globalism, George Washington Quotes

The discussion traces the current globalist agenda back to 1776, with Jeff Davis promising to show evidence of UN atrocities. Davis references George Washington to warn about the dangers of an authoritarian police state. The hosts conclude that the "New World Order" is not a future threat but a current reality that has already achieved a high degree of control.

1776· george washington· new world order· police state· authoritarianism

20:01 And quite frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not. I don't care if you believe Alex or not. See Jeff? I used to try and argue with him enough... Finally just hang on a moment. Yeah, I'm beyond worrying about that. If you want to go on in your own little belief in the reality... The pap! Yeah the reality... The little paradigm they spin. They come up with a good term for that today. Reality shortened media I actually had a better term than that. But, uh...I want to just mention then go ahead okay? Go ahead you don't have to listen now. You don't have to listen to me and i'm not... Keep bumbling along and they'll just laugh at ya! The only question is in all of this and I'l ask that question at the end because that's the pivotal question that many people are asking

20:55 But I want to just, first off folks you have to understand that basically this current problem goes back to 1776 and i'm not going to linger into all of that because we've got a lot information here that we want to get into. A lot of different sources. We have photographs of the UN burning little children. Right, we've got a lot of different things here and I wanna just stay on target here but this current problem actually does go back to 1776 And I want to just mention one other thing here, if i can find it. But basically George Washington many years ago who came up with a quote that I want to read here too and I want Alex to kind of delve into the total plan of the people who control this system now. An authoritarian police state... Which then I wanted also mention folks that many of this stuff

21:49 Too many of us, including myself at times and I know Alex at times has made statements like this stuff is coming. This is coming and you know the fact is we're living in a new world order now And have been for a long time. Many of our young people have been... The question is how deep of a degree? Right how deep? My personal opinion folks is that the world order people are virtually on the premise of uh... total control yet closing their doors on us but i want to just mention ok as far as that goes off by this quote him and returned alex here what do you see alex says the uh... well considering the fact that we have briefly okay with they've got their central bank they've got their income tax it at the proper text

CHAPTER 10 / 20 Discussion

Climate Cycles, Critique of Centralized Power

Alex Jones discusses geological history, citing 12,000-year-old glaciers in Texas to argue that global warming is a natural planetary cycle rather than a man-made crisis. He critiques the idea that centralized government can save the environment, pointing to high rates of birth defects in socialist Russia as evidence of state failure. The hosts agree that the people who destroyed the environment cannot be trusted to fix it.

ice age· geology· birth defects· russia· environmentalism

26:03 But we do know this, 12000 years ago in northern Texas because of boulder fields and the way stones are arranged and because of the geological record that there were massive mile thick glaciers. 12000 years ago in the panhandle of Texas The earth has been warming for 12000 years We're on about 18 thousand year cycle of ice age and warm up That's what the planet does And if they can get us, because of natural process to give up our rights... Let me assure you socialism isn't going to save the environment. In fact look at the worst countries in the world for the environment it's always socialist countries communist countries Look at Russia a full fourth of children there are born with serious birth defects and these UT professors want to tell us that what is going to save the environment and people is centralized power? It's really sick

27:00 Well, let me just say this. I think the last people that we would want to... ...that we would expect to save the environment or... ..or create a world government that's peace and prosperity... Are these criminals? ...are the same people who have destroyed the nations and destroyed the environment. They make their money out of militant enthusiasm, out of panic! They create panic and mayhem in a controlled formula... This is the thing... And then they create the fusion of big governments state. This is the fallacy of anybody that would aspire to this. In fact, I've heard people say what's wrong with the One World Government? This is going to be peace and prosperity for... I hear it every day! But they don't understand who is exactly behind it. Jeff, let me just make this clear. I want to get personal here real quick Alex. Now you and I have talked about this stuff a lot in private And I think this is the best way to keep this program here tonight or today

CHAPTER 11 / 20 Discussion

Gradualism vs. Crisis, Reichstag Fire Tactics

The hosts discuss the tactics of the "total police state," debating whether the transition is gradual or marked by manufactured crises. Alex Jones references the Reichstag fire, Waco, and the Oklahoma City bombing as examples of "thug behavior" used to panic the public into submission. He notes that the "heat is being turned up" as the agenda becomes more overt.

waco· oklahoma city· reichstag fire· police state· gradualism

27:57 and i think you folks are going to get a lot of out of this program uh... you have mentioned privately and publicly that for years you did not believe me people like me and then but wait what I said let me just, I believe so I knew that basically governments were intrinsically dangerous through history they were corruptive they had forces but now yeah well lemme make my point You now are starting to get to the point and at which I'm glad Because we need all the people up to this point of this level of understanding That we can get as far you know quite frankly Jeff. They're turning my frankly Jeff the fact is how could I miss it? They're turning up the heat well There's a lot of people missing now what I want out what I want to ask you Alex is Obviously, the whole world is lie right now. I'm very much

28:53 seen much of the manipulation process, and much of the manipulation work which I'm glad. Quite frankly I am glad that you are. Let me ask you is it because just different forms that you've seen in your opinion increasing your enlightenment to this or is because of their different actions that the other side is doing? Well, you've talked about how they would rather keep the move towards total police state and control because that's what they're after. Total power over everything and then it will only go in more successive waves because they are sick mentally

29:37 Either it's gradual, they would rather keep it gradual I believe. A lot of people think they want to have this big boom that comes No they like the panic us if they have too, they'll reserve to Reichstag burning behavior. Couple Wacos or a couple Oklahoma cities They'll create like every other thugs done But what it comes down to is as they is I began to see it because they're just trotting right out in front. You turn on six pack... Alright, sorry to interrupt here Stay tuned right here on these channels for more classics from Mike Hanson Archives But i just want to take a moment to ask for your help To fund these channels we are asking $25 donation

CHAPTER 12 / 20 Discussion

Council on Foreign Relations, Media Manipulation

Alex Jones critiques the July/August 1997 issue of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) publication, specifically an article by Swanee Hunt regarding post-communism. He claims the CFR is a secret organization that uses "fascist technicians" in universities and the media to manipulate public opinion. The discussion highlights how grant money and tenure are used to control academic discourse.

cfr· council on foreign relations· swanee hunt· military strategy· tenure

33:50 Their representation, employment and safety have suffered. America must support women leaders and entrepreneurs for the transition to democracy and capitalism be complete." They tell you that post-communism has been bad for women? Well that's a damn lie number one! You turn to the next page and they tell you transferring the military. Yeah, but let me... Listen, listen! Alex I don't want to interrupt ya. Well they tell us that we should get rid of our aircraft carriers because they're useless This is put out by Europe But let me tell you something. Now this is the first time I've interrupted you but I got to Now, your understanding... somebody's understanding of what is going on in this world goes beyond just reading this thing. No but there is something that you are seeing either through the media or certain laws raining down on us There is something that reaches a certain level of understanding

34:45 starts to see and it's not really so bad yes in this okay you're saying okay do you want i say the manipulation out here icy cc i'd say i see the manipulation intrinsically connected everything i find out that universities are controlling with with with grant money with grant money and with ten years ship to be professors of a dot was about the line they'll get the tenure They tell us there's these goody two-shoe liberals or conservatives or whatever and really all they are is fascist technicians. Basically, Jeff I have seen them on C-SPAN Sandy Berger our National Security Agency president No but when Clinton... Now i gotta ask you, I wanna get out of here what I want here He loves us When Clinton says

CHAPTER 13 / 20 Discussion

Elite Ruthlessness, Middle Class Delusions

The hosts discuss how political leaders like Bill Clinton and Sandy Berger use "emotionally packaged" rhetoric to push globalist agendas. Alex Jones argues that while the middle class enjoys a comfortable life, the elite at the top are inherently ruthless and willing to destroy nations. He compares the modern social structure to ancient Rome and Babylon, where the middle class is mentally impoverished despite their material possessions.

bill clinton· sandy berger· babylon· rome· social hierarchy

35:30 And he goes up there and says, you know we gotta do this this this in this for the kids. You see the media just... Or for the environment. The media chants it! You now starting to see that this is a lie? Oh it's more than a lie It is a sick twisted emotionally packaged popular culture torpedo against the very human spirit But let me ask you this though Why can Alex Jones say it Jeff Davis say it Many of us do say it And I don't think we should be concerned about the masses as a whole. But why are there still so many people that believe this stuff? A lot of people see it, but again...I go back to the central point They have been made to feel like they are part of it That they owe something to it That it owes something to them What's the fallacy in that thinking? Well, the problem is you're dealing with... They're expendable Well let me say this

36:30 Cream rises to the top of the middle class. People can have good lives, have a good wife... take their kids fishing or whatever That's all fine in here Go to an art show for life That's all good and if you want to be laissez faire in those terms that is fine But scum rises at the top of the elite because you have to be ruthless You have to be ready to kill and destroy whole third world nations You have to be ready to send troops That's how this world works. It is modern Rome You've got to crucify those people so they have fear of you You have got to brainwash your own subjects The most enslaved people in Babylon or Rome, Egypt were the actual nobles and kings themselves Or the lower level minions because they were in the very system The lower level slaves were beaten down and at least knew things were corrupt

37:19 It's that middle class that thinks they really are the rich. When in truth, they are paupers in flashy clothes and mentally they're poor because they don't have one damn shred of real human spirit. Right I agree with it. Okay well folks I want to just say this is very enlightening And I'm sure that you all viewers are maybe seeing Alex in a very, I think impressive light here today. I want to just read one quote here... This is Austin Texas folks! This is the big brother government and it's all loving here remember? That's what they tell us It was George Washington who stated that government is not reason, its not eloquence, Its force

CHAPTER 14 / 20 Discussion

UN Atrocities, Media Blackouts

Jeff Davis and Alex Jones examine a September 1997 issue of The New American magazine, which reportedly contains images of UN soldiers committing atrocities in Somalia. They question why the mainstream media ignores these events while portraying the UN as a humanitarian organization. The segment also touches on UN control of U-2 spy planes over Iraq and the organization's influence over global communication networks.

united nations· somalia· the new american· u-2 spy planes· iraq

38:11 Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master. How long do we have because I can't see the clock? About another 15 minutes or so. Let me just, let me just... Yeah, I want you to mention- He's actually got collars going on here and I don't know what that is all about but anyway, I wanna keep this focused here Well Jeff, I wanna tell ya this We do! We have collars Because were in here taping a show no one even knows where we're on when they've got collars Okay look turn around there okay lemme just mention it here I wanna tell you- Okay yeah lemme just flash these up real quick ok folks now the UN and Alex will tell you about it

38:52 This UN, the United Nations is presented as a loving organization. Now Alex brought this magazine down here to us another one of these Tell us what's going on here Alex in this I don't know if the camera is able to focus on that might not but but But that's the new they can see there good That's The New American September 29 97 and it shows them burning a Somali child And if you open it up to the middle of the little magazine, it shows them cutting the heads off Somali children. It does do that? Yes Why did we never hear about that in the mainstream? Yeah, that's an interesting point Every time I hear the UN, its like they're trying to save somebody and when I heard these U-2 spy planes were going over Iraq, I heard they were under UN control

39:37 Yeah, I mean anybody that doubts the power of the UN you got Ted Turner the biggest communications muggle in the world giving them control Of his network in Europe giving them a billion dollars and stock of Time Warner here in the US. You've got You've got the UN, there it is. Cutting the head off a child. You've got the UN ready to restrict our fossil fuel intake and no one else has to follow it you've got the U.N bankrupting third world countries I think I can get in here for him to see. Go ahead Alex keep talking here Well maybe we can focus on that That was pretty good show them again Basically folks they have images

CHAPTER 15 / 20 Discussion

Black Helicopters, Surveillance State Admissions

The hosts discuss reports of black helicopters used for domestic surveillance, citing a September 1997 broadcast of the Laird News Hour. Alex Jones recounts seeing a jet-black helicopter hovering over Jeff Davis's apartment and claims local police departments are using federal grants to fund these secret operations. They assert that the United States has officially transitioned into a police state.

black helicopters· surveillance· swat· laird news hour· federal grants

40:18 What you've got is a loving organization. Now I don't want to get into any specific thing, it's gotten a little bit lively and that's okay but i wanted to keep this discussion here with Alex on the special segment of Jeff Davis Show just about the tone that its been and I love it Now I just want to briefly throw this up here. America's greatest problem, we're not going to get into all of this... The government will own nothing the people will own nothing the corrupt bankers will own everything. Basically it is a debt usury money system that uh... now i want to fine tune this Jeff you were on my radio show couple weeks ago and I want to talk about something beautiful you said for years you've been being called by the dupes and even halfway by me You have been being called

41:10 a little goofy, a little quirky out of control. Talking about these black helicopters the federalization of our local police departments the centralization the Joyce and Stuenstaffel 1997 version right Well, let's show those black helicopters from the Laird News Hour from September 23rd 1997 where they admit black helicopters for surveillance of the public under federal control by the local police departments and then it shows local SWAT team commanders saying it is top secret. I don't know whether I should ask you this or not now... Go ahead But you made the comment. Do you want me to ask about what you told me about the other night on FM radio show? What? About a helicopter hovering over my place You saw that, huh? Jeff I don't wanna...You had told me, I've seen black helicopters Laird News Hour admits it's real The other day I was driving over your place To get you to go do a radio show and

42:10 I didn't want to believe it. I was about two miles away, and right over your apartment was hovering a small jet black helicopter directly over your apartment as i turned in the helicopter continued to hover Your son heard me honking violently to get you come out but she were on the telephone with somebody and it streaked off And then when I told you You had witnesses that it happened several years ago when you were running for Congress. This is... And this wasn't the normal one, you said this was the little black shiny peapod one? Yes! The scary part is now Laird News Hour is admitting that all local police departments have these for surveillance of the general population. It's a federal grant

42:57 It's federally controlled but instituted by local police departments and the SWAT team people, and the police say it's top secret and they won't talk about it. We are in a police state." Oh yeah have been for a long time that's one thing I want to emphasize if nothing else comes out of this program here today other than Alex is being very composed here today and he's making a lot of good points is the fact folks that we are not just in a situation where we are heading for trouble. We're in trouble and have been in trouble for a long time And, and in the next few years it's already starting to happen with AXIS television FM radio and AM radios being consolidated by insurance companies and banks even if people got ratings Well who was telling me? Somebody was telling me

CHAPTER 16 / 20 Discussion

Concentration Camps, Foreign Troops on US Soil

Alex Jones claims that the 1996 defense appropriations bill included $8 billion for urban warfare training centers and stockade facilities, which he characterizes as concentration camps. He alleges that UN, German, and Russian troops are training in states like Louisiana and Mississippi because American soldiers might refuse to fire on US citizens. The hosts suggest these foreign forces are being prepared as an domestic occupation force.

concentration camps· urban warfare· un troops· fort polk· bosnia

43:46 that the local, not the local but the major news medias now are owned by 7 Corp. Yes well a scarier part is those interlocking directorates are controlled by Rothschilds and Rockefeller and other interests Plus the FCC license licensing but the important part is Jeff is that people don't trust a lot of the things and frankly like you say I Don't care if they believe it anymore because I've seen yeah, we're beyond I don't know If your producer Mike who does a fantastic job wants to rewind it to the point where at first shows the helicopters on the pad And just play 15 seconds where they admit on lair news hour that its That's black helicopters

44:24 That it's local, that it's controlled by the feds and that its for surveillance of the people. Just between you and me Alex I don't even care about Laram News Hour. I know they're real! Oh no? I've seen them! I know! I don't need these CFR dudes to tell me they are real. I understand but Jeff two years ago when I was kind of doubting you...I already knew it was true a year ago when SWAT team people here in Austin said Alex I don't like it uh... we're trying with the military it's house-to-house seizures word were practicing taking up firearms we're practicing taking that uh... uh... taking like one family member they're practice in roundup people right now as we speak and they've got to concentration camps bill in nineteen ninety six loving in nineteen ninety five they had fiscal year ninety ninety six defense appropriations jeff and i wasn't

45:20 I was aware, but i was just watching. And this is what I started waking up for when I got my access television show and then got good enough to get an FM radio show. I was sitting there... ...and I was oil painting Washington's defense appropriation. And I saw this lady come forward from a Democrat from a Loving. Republicans do it too, but a Loving. They always use the Lovings from California She introduced eight billion dollars for urban warfare training centers and stockade facilities That was just what they built in 1996. Eight billion dollars, they take old military facilities, bases all those closings, they fence them...

46:01 And they turn them into concentration camps and they're just waiting all the UN training's that are... Yes, oh! The UN troops are training in Louisiana Mississippi. Alamogordo New Mexico I've got a documentary coming up German Russian troops training In fact they have a web- They used to have a website at the Fort Boyle Do you know why they had to do that though Jeff? It's a whitewash. Well, it tells you the dumbbells well see they got up here and we're there but who cares? The reason I have to do it is the same reason we have to go over to Bosnia to do stuff because our American troops probably won't want to fire on US citizens even though they've asked them to do it in the questionnaires and the Marines and other things so they're gonna have to import

CHAPTER 17 / 20 Discussion

Paul Volcker, Global Governance Agenda

The discussion covers former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker's alleged call for a global entity stronger and more militarized than the UN. Alex Jones references Henry Kissinger and the Bilderberg Group, claiming they view Americans as "pesky" obstacles to a global government. Jeff Davis states he will cease his broadcasts and "head for the hills" if foreign troops are ever publicly announced as policing American soil.

paul volcker· alan greenspan· henry kissinger· bilderberg· global government

46:39 occupation forces. And see, I used to think you were nuts when you said this but now i see the UN preparing to restrict our fossil fuels The UN has put up signs at the national parks that it's controlled by them It's real Mike can we play... There is very much a possibility too that... Mike let's just play those helicopters Well actually we're running out of time We want to get the last 10 minutes here to keep our schedule here It's very possible that the UN folks themselves could be a diversion. They could implement something like Chinese forces or Russian forces. In fact, who was the old Federal Reserve Chairman? Ted Gunnarsson. Who was the Federal Reserve Chairman before Alan Greenspan? Paul Volcker. Paul Volcker called just last month on C-SPAN. He called for something stronger than a U.N.. He said that the UN has outlived its usefulness and we need something stronger...something more militarized. The fact is that I will say one thing folks

47:38 If and when it gets to the point, I don't make predictions but if it gets to a point where they are publicly announcing that foreign troops are on American soil doing policing operations. That's when Jeff Davis quits his access show and his radio shows, and he is heading for the hills. The final area where I want to talk about Alex is this global New World Order I believe, and we've discussed this privately that quite frankly the one worlders are

48:19 had a time schedule and I believe doing different, not just in America although they consider us the pesky ones. We're the keystone of freedom. In fact that's why they've got to degrade the culture so bad you know 200 years ago every country was enslaving and killing people but how come in our history books we only hear about how America is bad? They've got to destroy our past so they can reinvent a future of slavery. So we will accept fascism and just like you said, And I've seen Henry Kissinger say it many times, it's the pesky Americans that keep them from... Yeah but Henry Kissinger actually did say that. That in a Billerberg meeting Well Paul Turner, Paul... There were things moving right along Ted Turner has called us useful feeders, I mean useless feeders on C-SPAN But let me just for the last few minutes we have here and Alex I appreciate you coming on Jeff Davis show here bro

CHAPTER 18 / 20 Discussion

Biometric Tracking, Mandatory Medical Testing

Jeff Davis and Alex Jones discuss the push for microchip implants, vehicle tracking, and biometric data collection. Jones notes that Texas has been thumb-scanning for driver's licenses since 1993 and claims a 1996 federal regulation mandates urine and blood testing clinics. They argue these measures are Fourth and Tenth Amendment violations designed to feed DNA and genealogical data to insurance companies and the elite.

microchips· thumb scans· dna· blood testing· fourth amendment

49:19 I personally think that they would like to have chips in all our hands, tracking devices in all of our cars. Preferably the majority... many more of us, I'll put it that way. Many more of us in buses trains, high-speed rail, you know... controlling mobility. Mobile slaves are not good slaves but let me just ask you this final thing that we talk about regularly I believe personally that they are behind schedule a little bit mainly due to the resistance not just in this country largely America but other nations

50:09 Do you see, with their goals of a new world order... I'm just coming out with it folks. That's their goal. A slave system? A global slave system. This is all prediction and it's all kind of... I normally don't like to get into this but do you see that they are on target behind schedule and either or do the American people in the world as a whole Do you believe that we have a chance of turning this thing around? I believe, like you said, that were already in this corrupt paradigm of delusion they've created for us with slick packaging and psychology and conditioning.

50:54 As we enter deeper into this system, as history has always done the key is these forums may be shut down in the future. The important point is to get enough information out now so that there's still a kernel of information of seed buried there so that people can reach back and remember and get enough information When you said chips in the hands and all that, a lot of people probably laughed. And I don't care anymore. You're right. Because they've been thumb scanning people in Texas since 93 for driver's license or renewal and Bill Clinton ordered in 96 if the states want their highway funds by late 98 most large states urine and blood testing clinics for everyone! The news said 1800...I've read the actual not a bill not a law

51:39 but the regulation the federal uh... love little love loving them they gave us with with with no vote tells not put the clinics and it tells me you'll have fourth intent amendment violations uh... yeah you know states rights violations of things tell them how to get past that i told my put the clinics and tells about a raise money for partially out of tickets and from the federal grants and if u want in every one our money for highways that they take from us we're gonna have to do so man if they want to start your blood testing us and that's openly in the public now uh... you know you have no criminal record you not innocent or proven guilty it's an invasion of privacy

52:16 You can extract all types of information from people. Yes, DNA you name it the insurance companies will be buying it up feverishly and genealogy... People will be losing yes people in the elites very hung-up on that see I didn't used to and now they again a few years ago... You didn't use to believe anything Listen listen a few years ago we were kooks who talk about black helicopters Now its well we weren't hold on We weren't That's what they said we were programmed to say But listen now It's just you guys don't be alarmist We need that. We need these secret units and every... And now when the urine and blood testing starts, we won't be crazy anymore because they'll actually go have to do it. People are too lazy usually to check it out then it will be okay thats a good idea! When they want to put chips in our hands I guess or up our ass. It will be the same thing three years from now. Now they're saying oh these guys are just alarmists blah blah

CHAPTER 19 / 20 Discussion

Psychological Conditioning, Moral Relativism

The hosts explore the psychological tactics used to make the public accept radical changes, noting how people quickly forget contradictory news reports. Alex Jones argues that society is being conditioned into a state of moral relativism where "nothing matters." He warns that this "group psychology" could lead to a society similar to the Aztecs, where citizens sacrifice their rights and families to the state.

psychology· advertising· moral relativism· aztec· social conditioning

53:11 three years from now, they'll be moving towards doing that. It's okay! We need it to protect our little old ladies out in the farm. It's like Austin Access' zone. Let me just say this... let me ask you this. Now basically.... This was a very powerful point that we discussed privately and isn't analysis just the masses? And I'm not trying to make a lot of people angry here, but this is just the truth if you're watching this program. they're told something one day and they believe that, and then the news can come out with something completely different the next day. And they go okay! They believe that forgetting completely what they were told the day before. How do they do it? I mean how?! It's no self-respect...it's nothing there is no real mooring and now you are about to say something more important. It's just reacting.

54:16 Here's another point, a very important psychological point you just brought up. We have to use psychology in this because advertisement is psychology. That's what it is yeah brainwashing It's the highest form of conditioning What do they tell us? You hear this everywhere...it doesn't matter nothing set who are you say what's right and wrong Well I assure you out there If I come up to you, Jeff... Or let's say you're tied down and I come up and stick a axe in your head. You know that was wrong! Yeah? You didn't deserve that! That's wrong if somebody comes up... I'm not signed by one world. Well listen, if somebody comes and robs your house for no reason

54:55 or rapes and kills your family, people will say that's wrong. That is still wrong in our culture but not for long we'll see like an Aztec or a Babylonian society where we sacrifice our children to the government or whatever God the government gives us We're in this sick group psychology where we're totally losing it with the basic human cord that's there of this is the basic law, nothings perfect, nothing set. So people don't even... Again you got the statesman in the movie section saying hey! The Chinese wouldn't let off OJ so that's where were at now they are calling for fascism its okay because nothing matters Jeff Nothing is set

CHAPTER 20 / 20 Discussion

Outro, Mike Hanson Archive Promotion

Jeff Davis concludes the special segment with Alex Jones, reaffirming the existence of a global conspiracy. Alex Jones delivers a closing statement urging listeners to follow their own human values and stop believing the system's lies. Mike Hanson ends the program by asking viewers to subscribe to his YouTube channels, including the Mike Hanson Archives and Waco Archives, and requests donations to fund the ongoing digitization of his video library.

mike hanson· jeff davis· waco archives· youtube· subscription

55:35 they're basically being conditioned to believe that everything that's going on around them. Doesn't matter! Just react, just react like cattle but it is acceptable yes anything black ski may have been busing into your house with black ski man okay we are ready to wind down here I want to give Alex...Alex i gotta say you did a fantastic presentation folks and uh..I wanna mention for the viewers out here at the Jeff Davis show I don't know whether i can do this or not but if you like the pro...okay we wont do it. But anyway, this has been a special segment here tonight and I think folks that

56:17 Let's face it, bottom line is there is a conspiracy. If you even call it that. Human history is repeating itself. Regardless and let us start to deal with it Alex Jones I want to give you special time here to make quick closing statement. I appreciate your coming on the program. Thanks Jeff look We're not, again I want to close with what I started with. We're not saints we are not angels Quit letting the government tell you that you can't follow somebody unless they are God Almighty Start following your own basic human values that you do unto others as you have them doing it to you Right and wrong Stop abusing people stop believing this uh... this uh... This everything is nebulous every thing is not set

56:57 start saying wait a minute i can look at the actual numbers most of money goes to foreign corrupt banks it's all a corrupt system everything is alive private banks control printing of money in a setting of interest I love Mike Hanson Archives. Stay tuned for more classics here on Mike Hanson Archives and our new channel Waco archives and don't forget our oldest channel Mike Hanson Archives Here on YouTube Stay tuned for more but make sure y'all get everybody to subscribe to Hanson Archives And the new one Waco archives. We're busy every day uploading more and more videos

57:49 We have hired somebody to do that and bought the equipment to do it. It's a lot of work, if you would like to help out with that situation send us $25 and I will send you my book and everything that comes in from my book will be used to fund these three channels So stay tuned right here to YouTube and Facebook. I am Mike Hanson from Gonzales, Texas on Facebook. Thanks a lot and God bless. Come on anybody want to come up here? All right that's it. Who wants the leader let James go. Go ahead. Yes sir. All right! God bless the Republic! Death to New World Order!!