Sunday, 15 February 2026

Raelian Movement (Classic Jeff Davis Jan. 6, 1997) [K NeNAaVqfU]

A Raëlian priest challenges traditional biblical dogma with a scientific origin story involving extraterrestrial geneticists and a proposed diplomatic mission to Jerusalem.

By Mike Hanson Archives | 1h 37m listen | 41 chapters
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About this episode

Raëlian priest Mary Helen Parent joins host Jeff Davis to detail the movement's mission to construct an extraterrestrial embassy in Jerusalem. Parent claims that the Elohim, an advanced human race from space, created all life on Earth through DNA manipulation 25,000 years ago and now seeks a diplomatic return. The discussion centers on the 1973 encounter of the movement's founder, Raël, and the scientific demystification of ancient religious miracles as misunderstood technology.

Parent outlines a vision for a New World Order based on a humanitarian council and a unified global language, contrasting it with the centralized power of modern banking systems. The segment features artist Donna Grabeau, who explains the symbolic connection between DNA and the bridge to extraterrestrial creators. Callers challenge the Raëlian doctrine, citing concerns over a national computer grid in Langley and the potential for a 'strong delusion' as prophesied in the Bible. Parent counters these critiques by identifying Raël as the Paraclete and redefining the human soul as a genetic blueprint capable of eternal life through advanced cloning.

In a moment of levity, Jeff Davis accepts a handmade gift featuring the infinity symbol and a UFO while sharing an anecdote about a John Wayne autograph. The broadcast captures the tension between Texas Patriot Front skepticism and the Raëlian philosophy of sensual meditation. Mike Hanson concludes the program with an appeal to preserve these historical archives from the Mount Carmel era.


CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Jeff Davis Show Introduction, Mount Carmel and Charlie Waits

Host Jeff Davis introduces an exciting edition of the Jeff Davis Show from Central Texas. He previews upcoming segments featuring local talk radio personality Charlie Waits and updates regarding the Mount Carmel site. Davis also mentions a lead-in segment that required significant production work to be replayed later.

jeff davis· charlie waits· mount carmel· central texas· radio personality

00:00 Hello folks, this is Jeff Davis with the legendary Jeff Davis show from Central Texas USA and I love my Kansan archives. Peace out baby! We are back and we have another exciting edition of the Jeff Davis Show and um...I want to just mention that were going to play that lead in again in case you all missed part of it uh there was a lot of work put into that so were gonna go ahead and play that here either midway through the show or the end of the show, whatever. Now we've got another exciting show for you lined up tonight. We have scheduled to come in Mr Charlie Waits local talk radio personality and a couple other things going on. We have some stuff concerning Mount Carmel that burned down The little shed that people were living in

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Mary Helen Parent, Raëlian Movement Origins and Elohim

Mary Helen Parent, a Raëlian priest, explains the origins of the Raëlian movement following Raël's 1973 encounter with an extraterrestrial. She describes how the Elohim created all life on Earth through DNA 25,000 years ago. Parent clarifies that the Hebrew word Elohim is a plural term meaning those who came from the sky, rather than a singular god.

mary helen parent· raëlian movement· elohim· extraterrestrials· dna

01:00 But before we get to that, we've got a young lady in the studio with us from...correct me if I'm wrong. Her name is Mary Helen Parent. That's the American way to put it right? Yes And she is what's called an Aurelian Priest. Miss Parent, first off welcome you to The Jeff Davis Show Thank You It's a pleasure to have you here I know you all have a little presentation you want to get to here. You've got this painting back here, Donna? Donna Grabeau is the artist and she's a Raelian here in Austin and she took care of the chapter in Austin So we have a little bit different background at least for the first segment of this program tonight And my allergies are killing me so...I'm going to try to muster through this Okay Miss Parent or may I call you Mary Helen? Yes, Mary Helen Please do

02:00 Tell us a little bit about what is the Raëlian priest and what is the Raelian movement all about. Well, the Raëlian movement comes from the word Rael. And Rael was the person who met an extraterrestrial in 1973 six days in a row. He explained to Rael that how they came here 25 thousand years ago... ...and created everything there is on earth right now They created all life, they created human beings scientifically through DNA. So they're the one and if you look in the original Bible in Hebrew... ...you can find the word Elohim and Elohim means those who came from the sky It's a plural And in the current Bible that we have it has been translated by a singular word God Which is completely different than what Elohim means because the singular of Elohim is Eloha

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Personal Involvement, Scientific Understanding of Miracles

Mary Helen Parent discusses her 1978 discovery of Raël's book and how it provided logical answers to her existential questions. She posits that miracles are simply gaps in human civilization's scientific understanding. Jeff Davis notes his own skepticism of organized religion while maintaining a different biblical view than the Raëlian perspective.

mary helen parent· organized religion· miracles· scientific knowledge· raël

02:55 They are the ones who came here and created us on their image, likeness. Their image and likeness means that they're more than one. If we are like them then they are like us so there is a human being like us that created us. I want to mention that I've studied the Bible rather in depth myself I can tell you that i'm not going to agree with everything you say here. But, I can also tell you that I am not going to agree with most of the things organized religion says because as far as I concerned that's one of biggest brackets gone So keeping my views aside here How did you first get involved in this? It was 1978

03:49 I found the book, Ralph's book in French. And I read it one afternoon and that was it for me. It answers and at the same time creates new questions in my head. It makes so much sense because everything can be explained that we can understand there is no such thing as miracle or mystery. There is just a gap in civilization But if you have enough scientific knowledge, everything can be understood. Even miracles that we think they are, they're not. It's just that we cannot understand it. So what is the Raelian movement then?

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Jerusalem Embassy Project, Third Temple and Golden Age

The Raëlian movement aims to build an embassy in Jerusalem to serve as the third temple for the return of the Elohim and their prophets. This embassy requires extraterritoriality status to allow extraterrestrials to officially return in the flesh. Parent explains that this event will usher in a golden age of scientific knowledge and wisdom for humanity.

jerusalem· third temple· elohim· embassy· extraterritoriality

04:29 What are you trying to accomplish? Well, we have two goals and the primary goal is to spread the message that you have in this book everywhere on the planet. And so far we're doing very well because there's over 35 thousand members on all continents and we are in many many countries- over 85 countries. The book has been translated into about 25 languages so far. Then, in order to build an embassy In Jerusalem, or near Jerusalem. That's what the Elohim asked Rael to do and this embassy is the third temple that the Jewish people are waiting for to build. That's going to be an embassy where there is extraterritoriality, where the Elohim can come officially, come back with all of their prophets like every great prophet it says in their religion that they're gonna come back

05:22 And they will, but like in flesh. Like you and me, they're going to come back with the Elohim and then they will be able to give us their knowledge scientific knowledge, their wisdom and help us too grow out of this epoch which is chaos and getting into the golden age. Before they come we have to make sure that we have this embassy and then to have a little bit more love between each other because they won't come if people don't accept each other for what they are. Okay, we had talked just briefly before the program started about Marie Allen. We had talked about this...we heard our leader in there

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

New World Order, Global Language and Humanitarian Council

Mary Helen Parent clarifies the Raëlian vision of a New World Order, which focuses on a unified global language and a humanitarian council rather than centralized power for bankers. Jeff Davis expresses concern that any concentration of power leads to absolute corruption. Parent argues that the proposed system would include checks and balances to prevent such tyranny.

new world order· global language· humanitarianism· bankers· power corruption

06:13 what some of the leaders and the phrase of the world is, a new world order. Now it was mentioned to me that you all or at least you had stated on Joyce Isaac show today. I didn't get a chance to hear it because of my schedule, but you on the surface support this new world order? Not the one that they're talking about because I don't support people who want to rule the world just to have power And that's the one we're in right now. Yeah, but it has nothing to do with that. We want a world language where everybody can communicate together but everybody will keep their own identity and their own language But if you have one language which everyone can communicate with each other That would be very good and I think its probably going to be English because so far thats what is more spread out in the world

07:11 So it's going to be probably the world language for everybody. But everybody will keep their own culture, their own differences because that is what it all about... It's to be able to be what you are in your own culture and appreciate the differences of others And one representative from every country will be on that council to make decisions so the world can be a peaceful place to live in, but nothing... it would be humanitarian action. Not something that people would like to take over and take charge and like bankers who would like to rule the world has nothing to do with that at all? Well I think anytime you get into a situation where there's

08:05 whether it's a concentration of power, whether it be the current rulers or future rulers you're going to have that potential. It depends on... That's why I'm kind of against this whole movement in any way shape or fashion because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yeah, I don't think they are going to have absolute power So there would be checks and balances. Let's get more back into where I just wanted to bring that up because it was brought up to me and I thought what? So, I had to clarify that. Because the face of this new world order is that the world populace

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Montreal to Miami, Volunteerism in the Raëlian Movement

Mary Helen Parent shares her personal background, moving from Montreal to Miami to escape the cold. She emphasizes that all members of the Raëlian movement, including priests, are volunteers who maintain regular jobs within society. The movement does not operate as a commune but encourages members to be active participants in the general workforce.

montreal· miami· volunteerism· raëlian priest· occupation

08:48 Facing now is not pretty. No, I agree with you. Unless you're a real good slave and want to be led around like a bunch of cattle and all that? Yeah we don't want that. First off where are you from? I'm from Montreal But I live in Miami now. It's too cold in Montreal, and when I come here it is freezing! It was so nice in Miami...it was very warm. Do you have an occupation? Yes because everybody in the movement are volunteers. Nobody is paid to do this. We do it on our own time and money or whatever

09:30 So everybody has a job and we are very in the society. We're not like a commune and leave apart, we are involving the society with people. And everybody does what they want to do, you know what they like to do to earn their living. Now before I get...I know y'all got a presentation here that were going to get too just a minute here but before we get to that What mostly do you want to say to the viewers of this program. What do you want to say about, I guess what your trying to accomplish or what...what are you specifically wanting to say to people on this particular...as a Raelian priest? That's r-a-e-l-i-a-n is that correct? Yes. Okay! What do you wanna say to the viewers? Well I can't say it a lot. To make a brief summary

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Humanity's Teenage Crisis, Sensual Meditation and Wisdom

Humanity is described as a biological entity currently experiencing a "teenage crisis" that requires wisdom to transition into a golden age. Mary Helen Parent explains that the Elohim's messages provide tools for awakening consciousness through meditation and love. She characterizes these teachings as a gift from space intended to help humanity avoid self-destruction.

biological entity· golden age· sensual meditation· consciousness· wisdom

10:26 These messages are the most important for humanity. The Elohim, when they met Rael, they met him so he can give their message to humanity and it's about... You want me to talk? No look at the camera there is a monitor too. Yes yes yes. That's alright you can talk to me! I like to look at you. And you can look at me. Yes yes yes i feel good looking at you Well, you're not too bad to look at yourself. And that's going to change the whole world because right now we are in chaos because humanity is like a biological entity that we were born as babies and we're growing up and like now we are about teenagers in crisis... If we want to pass

11:23 to get older as a humanity and to go in golden age, we need more wisdom. Because now we have a lot of scientific knowledge for our young age but with still babies playing with fire it's very dangerous We need to have more wisdom And those messages are wisdom It is pure consciousness To really awaken the consciousness of humanity So we can get in that paradise like the Elohim live in. Because the Elohim went through the same path that were going through, because they had progression and evolution in their humanity too. They were babies, teenagers now they're living in paradise and we can do that to! And with those messages are tools meditation how to love each other more, how to love yourself more it's all in there

12:15 So what I can do is that, I wish to everybody it's a gift. It's a gift from space that we can use to make this world a better world That's...that's what we want to do. I also have to mention too that some of my study Mary Ellen would...Murray Ellen right? Murray Ellen Would appear that this is probably delving into little bit new age Are you familiar with the New Age? I'm not going to say that. I am just bringing this up because I have already mentioned to you that organized religion is one of the biggest rackets. I call it the obey Caesar churches because basically all they do is tell you to bow down to the current rulers, which is largely their philosophy

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Sensual Meditation Techniques, Mind-Body Connection

Sensual meditation is defined as the awakening of the body to awaken the mind, utilizing sensory receptors to refine human intelligence. Parent distinguishes sensuality from sexuality, noting that pleasure can be derived from simple acts like eating or looking at the sun. The practice is intended to harmonize the individual with the infinity of the universe.

sensual meditation· yoga· sensory receptors· consciousness· pleasure

13:08 When you start talking about meditation and some of these other things, are you referring to maybe a minor type of yoga? The techniques that the Elohim taught Rael is called sensual meditation. And the sensual meditation is the awakening of the body for the awakening of the mind Because everything you have in your mind came through your senses, all of your knowledge and thoughts. It's because you heard it or saw it... ...or tasted it or touched it that is why you have that knowledge in your mind But if you would not have any senses then your mind will be blank So it means that all you had there comes through those receptors

13:53 of what surrounds you. So if you awake them, refine them... You will automatically refine and awake your brain Your intelligence, your harmony, your consciousness That's what the central meditation is all about It's to let the place that surrounds you give you pleasure That's what sensuality is all about. And when I say sensuality, I'm not saying necessarily sexuality... it's two different things You can be sensual in your sexuality but you can be sensual when you eat a good meal When you talk with somebody When you look at the sun, when you look at the tree Just to feel more of the infinity that surrounds and the infinity that sits in you That's what meditation is all about It means practice Meditation comes from meditare

14:41 which means practice, it's to practice and the central meditation is to practice your senses. To develop them... to feel more. Do you have any... so you definitely then are of the idea that see I've had people on my program that talk about Pleiadians or have you done any well just to get into the Greys and Pleiadians and all of the different extraterrestrials that are supposedly flying around all over, which just between you and me I don't believe most of it. I do believe there is anti-gravity aircraft but i believe its again coming from our rulers But do you believe then that there is a... There is an infinity of humanity in universe because the universe is infinite so there's an infinity

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Cosmic Law, Peaceful Extraterrestrials and Media Fear

A cosmic law dictates that any civilization capable of interstellar travel must be inherently peaceful, as aggressive civilizations destroy themselves before reaching that technological stage. Parent argues that movies depicting "bad" aliens are likely tools of manipulation used by those in power to instill fear. Jeff Davis expresses skepticism regarding extraterrestrial sightings, attributing some craft to government anti-gravity technology.

cosmic law· anti-gravity· extraterrestrials· solar system· media manipulation

15:32 and indefinitely small, and indefinitely large. It's incredible! But on this planet which is ours the Elohim are the only ones who come here or if they would allow somebody else to come the other one would have to have permission of the Elohim to come here because we are their civilization in a way because they created us so they're kind of protecting us but in a way they don't really need to protect us because there is a law. This is very important so you can take away all the fears of the unknown who lives somewhere else, very far There's a cosmic law that says as soon as you're capable scientifically to get out of your solar system You automatically peaceful because if you're not peaceful suppose take an example ourself

16:25 We're not very peaceful yet, but we have a lot of knowledge and soon we'll be capable to get out of our solar system. We didn't yet! But before we can go outside of our solar system if we don't get wiser we will destroy ourselves so... ...we cannot hurt other civilizations in the universe because if we are aggressive we gonna kill ourselves, destroy ourselves before we can go outside So the extraterrestrials who come here they're automatically peaceful because if they have the technology which is very, very high

17:04 means that they're not aggressive anymore because they wouldn't exist. They would have destroyed themselves, so we don't have to be scared like all the movies that they show to us to scare people I'm wondering how much of those movies are not kind of conspiracy from people to make sure that people aren't scared so they can manipulate them better You see, it's a question to see who are behind all those movies to scare people off so they can be in power more of those people who are scared. We don't need to fear anything at all because those bad people... if they're bad I'm sure there is bad people that live on another planet but they can come here. They can. Let me get it- If we could this

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Donna Grabeau, Artistic Symbolism and DNA Bridge

Artist Donna Grabeau presents a painting illustrating the connection between the parent world of the Elohim and the child world of Earth. The artwork features a DNA strand transforming into a bridge that ties major religions together with their scientific creators. Grabeau explains the visual concept of welcoming extraterrestrial creators through her art.

donna grabeau· dna strand· religious bridge· scientific creators· painting

17:58 I don't understand much of it. But anyway, Donna designed this painting here and I think it needs to at least be shown on... Do you actually want to come up here and explain any of this? Then we'll get your other little presentation here that you have. That looks like a lot of work. It looks like a lot of work to me, but that's just... Let me get up out of your way here. Go ahead you can stay here Mary. Do you want to just stand up here or do you want to? And then go ahead and do your other presentation too.

18:45 I wanted to have a concept that showed one world making contact with another world. The parent and the child's world because... And, I have DNA strand that transforms into the bridge down on the bottom I have some major religions And this bridge ties the religions together and ties us to our creators. And then I have welcome our scientific creators from space, and so I also have a presentation of kind of the brochure that we passed out. I'll help you. Oops! You're in your hood. Sorry? Okay here we go. I'll read from the brochure

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Raëlianism as Atheist Religion, Human Rights and Happiness

Raëlianism is presented as an atheist religion that rejects traditional deities in favor of human rights and scientific reality. The movement advocates for a spirituality that enhances wisdom and pleasure while connecting individuals to the infinite universe. Parent cites André Malraux's prediction that the third millennium will be religious, but through a lens of humanistic values.

atheist religion· human rights· andré malraux· spirituality· happiness

19:55 Mary Helen will hold up the drawings. In a time when space travel, genetics and electronics have caused a real revolution the people of today are technologically in the future but philosophically in a distant past men and women... technological progress of their era The belief of guilt and their genuflection and contrition is now obsolete, as are devils and benign deities who assume the right to control others by making people unaware the consequences of their actions. And by favoring that which is most destabilizing suffering."

20:40 Today we want a spiritual life which enhances wisdom and pleasure, improves our consciousness and allows us to feel connected to ourselves. To all other human beings, to all living things and to the infinite universe This kind of spirituality does exist it is Raelianism People have lost the real meaning of religiosity Religion from Latin means to connect To be religious does not mean reciting traditional prayers that we do not understand. It means feeling connected to ourselves and to the infinity which surrounds us. André Malraux said, The third millennium will be religious or it will not be and it is."

21:27 Raëlianism is an atheist religion premised on the fundamental concept of the human being. We do not need those religions that legitimize their values from divine rights, thus penalizing those who do not share their convictions. We want a universal religion that draws its legitimacy from values premised on human rights and that is Raelian religion The common denominator of all people is their desire to be happy and to live in a harmonious and peaceful world. So we need values which contribute to the blossoming of every person, and which cultivate human idiosyncrasies in order to replace archaic values whose only function is to maintain traditions."

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Worldwide Army of Peacemakers, Military Budget Redirection

The Raëlian movement campaigns for a planet without national armies, proposing instead a worldwide army of peacemakers. This shift would allow national military budgets to be redirected toward fighting hunger and providing housing and education. Parent criticizes current governments for prioritizing the arms race over the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

peacemakers· military budget· universal declaration of human rights· hunger· education

22:16 Realism means living out humanistic values daily. It means loving yourself unconditionally in order to love others better, it means feeling responsible for our actions even when following orders, it means having absolute respect for life because whoever saves the life of a non-violent person saves the world Being Raelian means campaigning for a peaceful planet, without national armies but with a worldwide army of peacemakers. This way the national military budgets can be used to fight hunger throughout the world and everyone has the right throughout their lifetime to have enough food, a place to sleep some clothes and access to education as noted in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

23:08 And there is not a single country that gives the application of these articles of paramount importance priority over the arms race. We Raelians denounce this false position." To mean Raelian also means going beyond tolerance by putting forth a concept which would guarantee peace among all people, love of differences. Not on mere acceptance but a genuine culture of sexual racial religious and other diversities the Raelians develop this new philosophy by meeting regularly particularly during an awakening seminar which are held on each continent

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Tadhi Philosophy, Physiological Potential and Anti-Pleasure Institutions

The Tadhi philosophy focuses on personal growth and meditation to unlock the 90% of human physiological potential that remains dormant. Parent argues that existing "anti-pleasure" institutions have broken people's spirits, whereas Raëlianism celebrates happiness as the pleasure felt in every moment. The movement challenges traditional dogmas regarding the origins of life on Earth.

tadhi philosophy· personal growth· physiological potential· anti-pleasure· genetic engineering

23:51 There are many hundreds of individuals our Tadhi philosophy centered on personal growth and meditation. Now it is proven scientifically that meditation fosters the development of our physiological and psychological potential, which we are only 10%. Raelians practice sensual meditation this word means training in the pleasure at the senses This meditation permits us to increase the quality of the information that the senses transmit to the brain and gradually manage that information completely. Sensual Meditation allows us to develop our capacity to harmonize ourselves with the infinity which is part of us and which surrounds us

24:38 The teachings given during these seminars also bring back the importance of pleasure to the life of each individual. They are the last straw for all the anti-pleasure institutions who have broken millions of people seeking a better existence. Isn't happiness, the pleasure you feel at every moment? The Rebellion Revolution challenged existing dogmas Our educators taught us that life on earth is the result of many strokes of good luck or the fruit of the whims of a divine being. These two theories have never been proven, leaving up in the air all existential questions that all people ask themselves. Where do we come from? Why are we here? Where are we going? The Iralian religion brings irrational and revolutionary answers to these questions

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

1945 Age of Revelation, DNA Mastery and Embassy Model

Since 1945, humanity has entered the Age of Revelation, where scientific progress allows for the understanding of the Elohim without mystification. Parent explains that the Elohim mastered genetic material to create humankind in their image. She presents a model of the proposed embassy, noting its design is based on a crop circle blueprint.

1945· age of revelation· dna· crop circle· embassy model

25:33 And today we realize that we are not alone in the universe. We are traveling in space, we are discovering the mechanisms of life through genetic engineering and now we're capable understanding that December 1973 a journalist named Real met several times with their representative of an extraterrestrial civilization who told them, we created humankind Your ancestor has deified us. We are the origin of all religions on Earth, and these people from space created humankind in their image thousands of years ago thanks to the mastery of genetic material deoxyribonucleic acid DNA find traces other enormous feats in ancient texts many civilizations such as the original Bible where they are called El Hym

26:27 an ancient word meaning those who come from the sky. They initiated all the great prophets like Buddha, Moses, Mohammed and Jesus by giving them a message adapted to the level of consciousness of the people at their time in order to guide humanity into the age of revelation which we have reached since 1945 Now in light of our scientific progress We can understand who they are without mystifying The Elohim wished to come back to Earth officially, to meet with the leaders of our government in an embassy acknowledged by the United Nations. And they asked Rael to set up the International Raelian Movement and bring this message to knowledge to all humanity. This message is in a book called The Message Given To Me By Extraterrestrials

27:21 And the messages are here to prepare humanity for the welcoming of the Elohim when they return to the temple that we will build for them soon in the future. And here's the model of the embassy. The replica, it is like a crop circle that we saw in land one of them was blueprint of the embassy that has to be built for the Elohim

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Caller Criticism, National Surveillance System and Diversion Claims

A caller criticizes the Raëlian discussion as a diversion from pressing political issues like the National Surveillance System and thumb scanners. The caller references Galen Ross and a $400 million surveillance building mentioned on C-SPAN. Jeff Davis is urged by the caller not to mix the Raëlian movement with the local Patriot Front movement.

galen ross· national security administration· surveillance· c-span· thumb scanners

31:37 Well I try. It's kind of like my way of, I have so much inside me that I want to say and... Do you all got some collars? Can you take them over there? Sure. Because they've been a hole forever. Yes. Okay we have some callers on the home. Hello! We'll go ahead and take them now whenever y'all is... Hello?

32:15 Well, Jeff I... let me tell you. Usually you have Galen Ross on ex-National Security Administration. Now hold on, I'm going to turn it over to Tel Aviv. Can you put it louder a little bit? Yeah Jeff! All I was gonna say is this. You know, Jim's got a great show he had people like Galen Ross who has been an international consultant for large oil companies and I've seen his credentials, read about him in other books. He worked for the National Security Administration, Jeff has a lot of great facts on his show but I tell you ladies, all this stuff that your into is nothing but a large diversion

33:02 And I can also tell that Jeff isn't too deep into this. And, uh...I mean, I agree with Jeff. I think this is pretty nebulous and I don't think it's on target. I think it's a diversion and, uh, Jeff, I think you got a good show. I would just hope that—I would just hope that you would not agree with his behavior because mixing this in with your successful movement and the Patriot Front we're trying to start up in this area I think this could really...I know that you like to have a forum for people to come out and, you know, have free speech. And I understand that you don't agree with a lot of the stuff that you have on but uh... I don't know ladies! I've been watching it and it sounds to me just like some kind of recycled stuff, some kinda Hinduism for the Western world. And I don't agree with it. I'm sure there are, ya'know, I mean, The Hubble Space Telescope has categorized 500 billion galaxies

33:50 uh... just as it's been up the last few years to have a good fix all agree that probably walk all over space but i think it is all the version we'd worry about the tax bracket the police powers of thumb scan and microchips all this israelis well-known and uh... jeff apartment wrote the first I enjoyed seeing that on your intro it showed one of the thumb scanners that are being installed in all major states now. And, uh...I was watching C-SPAN the other day for people's information out there there is called the National Surveillance System and its a four hundred million dollar building just equipment costs $400 million dollars Let me interrupt you for a minute

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Langley Computer Grid, Globalist Conferences and Information Sharing

A caller highlights the reality of a national computer grid in Langley, Virginia, and recent globalist conferences featuring Mikhail Gorbachev. Mary Helen Parent responds by stating she is not there to convince anyone but simply to share information given to Raël. Jeff Davis defends his role as a host who provides a forum for various opinions without necessarily agreeing with them.

langley· cia· gorbachev· globalists· information sharing

34:30 You've stated that you're against this enslaving system, that the current regime is... I don't know what is this question. Do you have a question? Well, my question is this... You know, uh.. I'll start listening to you and bring an alien on TV and show me one And, uh, you know, I just-I mean This stuff may be real but it doesn't matter There's so much factual stuff that's so damn strange It happened in this country now and there are so many incredible BF Folks we got that right here in Texas You go down, you'll be computer scanned your thumb and I mean you're not a criminal but it's being done to you to get a driver's license or renew your driver's license. And they have built a national grid It supposed to up by 1998 They got the giant computer system

35:18 It's in Langley, Virginia right next door to the CIA. So that's all real! All I'm saying and all I'm asking this lady is... Hey, you know, I think that you shouldn't come out against the globalists and New World Order And I was just watching C-SPAN and saw Gorbachev on there earlier today at some big conference Some big global conference so this is all real but your alien stuff? I'd like to see you back it up with some facts right into my face until I start believing it Please Jeff don't mix us in with a movement. I know you probably won't agree with me Have a good evening Okay, I'm going to go ahead and let you respond. Well there's no... he didn't ask any questions so what he says it is his own belief and I respect that So if it's what he believes thats fine Let me ask you do you travel around and go on different shows? Yes we give a lot of lectures in the university and everywhere around the world

36:09 Do you have a lot of people doubting what you're saying? Yes, but it's okay. We are not here to convince anybody we just want the information that was given to Rael for all humanity there is people who are ready to take it and there are those who aren't and its fine if somebody is Catholic or Baptist or Jewish and he's happy thats fine My situation as talk show host I'm just trying to do, in fact I don't think there is anybody that I've had on my program that I agree with 100%. Not one person.

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Alien Respect, Intolerance and World Government Power Trips

Mary Helen Parent argues that the lack of physical alien presence is due to human intolerance and the risk of violence against them. She clarifies that the Raëlian concept of world government is humanitarian and entirely separate from the "power trips" of current global regimes. Jeff Davis compares the caller's skepticism to the tangible nature of oppressive congressional bills.

intolerance· world government· power trip· hate crimes· congressional bills

36:53 as a talk show host, I think that...I don't see anything wrong with having people that I don't have to agree with on everything. But obviously there's something...you all think this is something and you should have the right to be able to express your own opinion. This is very important for some people it looks so foreign that they do not see because it comes from somewhere else another planet but this is about us This is where we come from. This is answering all the big questions, why? When? Who? Where? This is answering everything and it's all the question that we have about ourselves for years. Where do we come from? Where are we going? And I think its not something that doesn't involve ourself, it involves us because it's all about us

37:44 And he might not talk about all what that gentleman talked about precisely, but it doesn't mean it's not as important as what he is talking about. It might be more important but its' not because he doesn't see it that it isn't important. Its' not because nobody sees the truth that it's not there I think what he was referring to...I frequently have like congressional bills that I think are just designed to put more laws on us, make us more slaves. And you can slap that bill up on a camera and show people where they're trying to do this or hate crimes or whatever they're trying to... Whereas what he's saying maybe is since there hasn't been an alien or anything like this that has been thrown in front of us Well then at Masochist, do you think they are going to come here?

38:39 Because they don't want to be killed. We don't have enough respect for differences, we're too intolerant. are totally against this current brand of world government? Of course, because what we're talking about in the book about war government has nothing to do with what's going on now. Because what is going on now is a power trip and that has nothing to do at all. Okay next caller you're on air Hi how's it goin'? Good and you? Alright Now the word Elohim where did you get that from

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Elohim Etymology, Noah's Ark Space Shuttle and Genetic Disagreement

A caller questions the etymology of Elohim and the internal politics of the extraterrestrial creators. Parent explains that Noah's Ark was actually a space shuttle used to preserve DNA cells during a period of planetary destruction. She describes a historical disagreement among the Elohim regarding the success and aggressiveness of the human genetic project.

elohim· noah's ark· space shuttle· gene pool· genetic manipulation

39:24 It's an Hebrew word, which means those who came from the sky. Where does that come from? If you look in all the original Bible in Hebrew and there is few Bibles in English that kept the word Elohim but very few... it has been all mistranslated by the word God singular. And then you're saying its a plural which is extraterrestrial. Yes You can find it in the dictionary Well um..and the other thing is I've seen some of your material playing what uh... is the relationship between the elohim isn't there some political division in the home world or something where with regard to the experiment that's going on here regarding genetic manipulation and such wasn't there in your doctrine, in your material isn't there something that explains a political

40:24 disagreement between basically the founders of this project and some of the other... On their planet you mean? Yes. Ok, yes because when they came here created everything on this planet Some people on their planet agreed with it and others were not because when we have been created there was a group that said that this creation is no good, too aggressive and its bad experience that we did but the people who were here and create us really

41:05 took their defense and they wanted to protect us, and that's what they did when they destroyed everything on the planet. Noah's Ark was a space shuttle that kept all of the cells of every species that were created and they preserved it up there from destruction... The ones that were contaminated with extraterrestrial with extraterrestrial semen or whatever, right? The extraterrestrial gene pool became mixed with the planned project gene pool and that was disagreed with. That had to be put to an end but my issue is this... This word Elohim comes from the Bible Yes There is possibly going to be some war over this amongst the extraterrestrials

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Infinite Universe, Absence of Creation Beginning

The Raëlian doctrine posits that the universe has no beginning and no end, represented by the symbol of infinity. Parent clarifies that while the Elohim created life on Earth, they did not create the universe itself, as matter has always existed. This contradicts the caller's biblical view of a singular Creator existing before the stars.

infinity· creation· stars· heavens· matter

41:54 the uh... are you going to work with you yes okay i heard so anyway there's might be some period disagreement between some of the authorities and from other people who were supposed to be our pals here thought saying it but i don't have a problem extraterrestrials being involved in the in the planning and and and all that planet but uh... the fact that that the Raelian doctrine and such, and information that I received they ignore the parts of the Bible that doesn't agree with that view of the human being or the humanist view. And they ignore the Creator you know like there was a creator before there were any stars or before there was anything but in the beginning there was God

42:51 That's the translation in English. Are you saying that the Elohim were here before the first star was created, before the heavens and earth were laid down? Actually, the Elohim didn't create the earth they created everything that was on the Earth and the planets where there So there was no before everything, everything always was. There is no beginning that's what the symbol I'm wearing it represents infinity in time and space and in the creations of human beings

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Jesus as Raëlian Prophet, Cloning and Seven Laboratories

Mary Helen Parent describes Jesus as a prophet sent by the Elohim, born of an earthly woman and an extraterrestrial father. She explains that the Elohim established seven laboratories on Earth to create the seven different human races. Parent asserts that Raël is the modern successor to prophets like Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammed, tasked with demystifying their messages through science.

jesus christ· cloning· laboratories· seven races· joseph smith

43:31 in every level. There is no beginning, no end." Well Christ himself Jesus one of your people who has been appointed by the Elohim, one of your people who has been raised and Himself is saying that God will be here after the last star has burned out. And he says, I don't come to being priest but division and he says all of these other things. Jesus was sent by Elohim He was a prophet like many of them like Buddha, Mohammed Joseph Smith Well he doesn't seem to agree with anything you're saying here Oh yes we are saying the same thing it's just that we... Go ahead

44:08 Yeah, it's gone. Because Jesus when he talked to the people in this time He couldn't talk the same way that Rael talks but they were saying the same thing But he was talking to primitive people They couldn't understand and when I say primitive means with no scientific knowledge So he couldn't say the same thing, the same way that Rael is. Rael is here to demystify everything... ...to bring the truth about our origin scientifically which is different but they're saying the same thing because Jesus was one of them He was coming from an earthly woman and His Father was one of them so when He was talking about his father being in the sky it was right because

44:52 His father lives on another planet. And when he was saying that, he was talking about God... He wasn't talking about God but Elohim if you take the original Bible because of course if you take the Bible in English or French they talk about God because it has been translated like that but its plurals. Elohim is plural because the singular is Eloha And if you take, when they say we created human beings on their image and likeness. It's a plural. And they say that we are like them so they're human being like us

45:33 They look like us and we look like them. When they came on this planet, they created seven laboratories where they created the seven different races which is very important because We all come from them Whatever the color of your skin you have been created by a group of Elohim On their image means that on their planet They have different races too not only white not only black not only yellow whatever but it's its It's differences, which is beautiful. To be different and to respect the differences you know? To respect the philosophy of somebody else it's very important You know I respect somebody who is Catholic because if its what makes him happy it's important The most important thing is to be happy That's the most important thing

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Alex Jones Ranting, Salvation through Blood vs Good Works

A caller suggests a previous ranting caller was Alex Jones and challenges Parent on the uniqueness of Jesus Christ. The caller argues that while other religions focus on good works and self-sacrifice, true Christianity relies solely on the death and shedding of blood of Jesus. Parent is asked to reconcile the Raëlian view with the exclusive claims of the Christian faith.

alex jones· salvation· blood of christ· good works· hinduism

46:23 and to respect people. Okay folks, we're visiting with Marie Helen Parent she is a Raelian priest from you're living in Miami now but you were in Montreal I come from Montreal Quebec and if y'all hope you all can understand her accent...I hope so! You let me know if you don't understand something. I've got it down now. Yes okay next caller your on the air caller Hi Jeff, how are you doing? Good and you? Hey I think that not the caller that just called in but before that had to have been Alex Jones. And it seems to me that Alex is calling up air... He gets ranting on his show then he gets on your show and rants then he calls in on every show and rants and raves. And geez that guy gets enough air time anyway

47:13 young lady, in regards to what you're talking about here doesn't the Bible say...the Bible says Jesus said I'm the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me and when you say that both Mohammed and Buddha and these other prophets said the thing is Jesus Christ that's absolutely not correct because Christ, Jesus Christ These other prophets, the other religions, Buddhism and Hinduism and everything, the way to Godhead or eternal salvation is through good works. Through self-sacrifice, through mortification of the flesh

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Telephone Game of Biblical Tradition, Age of Apocalypse

Parent argues that the New Testament was written hundreds of years after Jesus' death, leading to significant distortions through oral tradition, similar to a game of "telephone." She claims the core message of all prophets was love, intended to help humanity survive until the current Age of Revelation. She suggests that this generation will witness the return of the Elohim and their prophets.

new testament· oral tradition· age of revelation· apocalypse· message of love

48:01 And the true Christian religion, the way to salvation is through the death and shedding of blood of Jesus Christ. He paid the price for our sins we were redeemed if we believed that and asked him to come in. That has absolutely nothing to do with the other thought systems of these other religions these beliefs What's your response to that? Like I said a little bit earlier, every... the prophet that they came. They were not saying like the exact thing the same way because it was adapted to the people in those time and to the country where they were because Mohammed was in a different area than Jesus was so he had to be adapted to the people who are there and at the time that was done but they were all sent by Elohim All of the religion

49:09 have the same origin. We all come from Elohim, so there is not a religion better than the other one it was just that at this particular time in one epoch there was only one prophet they sent They never send two prophets in the same time So when Jesus came he was the only one of these times Everything that went through Elohim went through him But don't forget that in the Bible there is a lot of things that are not written properly. Because, for example the New Testament is the worst because it was written many years after Jesus died. Nothing was written at the time of Jesus. Nothing at all! It was like two or three hundred years after and it was a tradition from word to word

50:04 with people that couldn't understand anything they were saying and it was word to word for almost 300 years, and after they decided to write things. So can you imagine how deformed it could have been? It's like if you played the game of telephone we could do here with 4 or 5 people then you say one word at the end its completely different few seconds, so can you imagine in 300 years how it came up after? So his message was a message of love. Of having more love between each other that's what the prophet their mission was all about so we could survive through the time and get to this age where we are now which is the age of revelation, the age of apocalypse We're very privileged to live in this time because will see everything It's the most important time of humanity now

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Spirit of Antichrist, Resurrection Claims and Religious Merit

A caller labels the Raëlian teachings as the "Spirit of Antichrist," tracing the philosophy back to the time of Cain and Hinduism. The caller emphasizes that Jesus is the only way to heaven because he alone was raised from the dead to prove his divinity. Parent's assertion that all prophets are equal is rejected by the caller as a fundamental deception.

antichrist· resurrection· cain· hinduism· salvation

50:54 Because the Elohim will come back with all those prophets. Everything will be understood and it's going to be in this generation we're gonna see everything, and maybe you're gonna be there Jeff and be able to interview the Elohim. All right next caller your on air Hello, how you doing? Just fine Jeff. How are you just do not hey man Alex is really he's going off dude You need to get control For some reason that got disconnected next caller you're on the air

51:33 Yes. Hi! Hi, I agree with the first three previous callers This religion this lady is preaching is none other than has been around since the time of Cain It's a religion he started and it's gone through Hinduism And I mean you know Jesus Christ said He was the way the truth and the life And he did not ever claim to be a prophet, he said that he was the son of God. Which is different than these other prophets, Mohammed and all his others

52:11 They had all their different religions. You can say it came to different people, different places, different times throughout the world but if all of these other religions are correct then everybody can do their own thing and get to heaven if you will on their own merits or their own religion But Christ said that he was the only way. And this is through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ none of the others so called prophets raised from the dead to prove what they were saying was true

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Hebrew Translation Errors, Kabbalah and Virgin Mary Dogma

Mary Helen Parent defends her position by citing translation errors from the original Hebrew, where "God" was substituted for the plural "Elohim." She points to the Kabbalah as a more accurate source of information than modern Bibles. Parent also notes that many church dogmas, such as the divinity of the Virgin Mary, were voted on by men centuries after the events occurred.

hebrew· kabbalah· virgin mary· dogma· eloha

52:51 And there just is no other way. Anything that is contrary to what he taught or what he believed, is Antichrist, it's the spirit of Antichrist And there's Christ being, meaning that he was the anointed one of God. He is the Son of God and if he is the son of god, the Elohim, then yes that is a plural word and you can read that in Genesis right on through it talks about all that and it is one god

53:31 Okay, did you... Well I answered that already. You did? Yes that if you take the real original Bible there you don't find the word God and you find Elohim and there is other ways. Jesus was one of the prophets. The prophet means prophetess which means the one who reveals so Jesus come here and reveal something Muhammad was here and revealed something And they were all sin He was the only one in his time. That's what he was saying, I'm the only one now! that is connected with the Elohim. But in the time of Mohammed, he was the only one then prophet that was sent by the Elohim and Jesus was the fruit like I said before of an earthly woman and a man from there, an Eloah so He was special in that way for the first time they created their prophet that way

54:33 That's why he was talking about his father in the sky. His father was an Elohim. He didn't say that he was the son of God, because God doesn't exist in Hebrew. The word God is Elohim and all our Bibles come from Hebrew. It was written in Hebrew. Jesus spoke Hebrew but not English So he was speaking this language. And with the translation, a lot of mistake and a lot of mistakes too because of the oral tradition of what Jesus was saying The most accurate written document that we can find is in Genesis and Kabbalah which has pretty good and accurate information in Kabbalah Okay! Next caller you're on air

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Deception of the Elect, The Paraclete and John the Baptist

A caller expresses fear that the Raëlian movement represents the "deception of the elect" mentioned in Revelation. Parent counters by identifying Raël as the "Paraclete" or the last prophet who tells the truth. She also offers a non-traditional interpretation of the "Anti-Christ," claiming the term refers to John the Baptist because he came "before" Christ.

revelation· paraclete· john the baptist· messiah· deception

55:30 Hello Jeff. How you doing? Listen man, I agree with a lot of the things that Mary's saying tonight The only thing that concerns me is that supposedly if you read Revelations and get off all into that end of it someone is going to come and supposedly have all the answers It's also stated even the most elect will be deceived And I think that's the scary part of this deal. You with me? Yes, yes.

56:07 I mean, does that make any sense to you guys? Someone comes and they've got all the answers to our environmental problems. They can solve it all but yet who are these people? You know what i'm saying? Well, It was announced that in the time of Revelation, at the time of the apocalypse they would send their last prophet The Paraclete as we call him in the Bible The one who will tell the truth And Raoul's book in French is called The Book Which Tells the Truth. And he is the last prophet that they sent on this planet Of course it's hard to believe for most of us because we don't... Why him? Why not me, why not this person But you need somebody to be that messenger who will come and he is the last one before they come back here

56:59 And is the Messiah that the Jewish people are waiting for? Is the one who reveals everything, who has all of the answers to what you're talking about. Well I think when I'm talking about... and I don't want to get too traditional..I am just thinking anti-Christ You know, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about Anti Christ means before Christ and it was John the Baptist because anti if you speak Latin means before So anti-Christ was before Christ, means the one who announced Christ. It was John the Baptist that was the anti-Christ. Oh gosh! John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin right? I mean he's the one who baptized him He was the one who prepared the welcoming of Jesus

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Church Dogma History, Apostles and Written Records

Parent discusses the history of the Catholic Church, noting that doctrines like the Trinity were established through votes long after Jesus' time. She asserts that none of the original apostles wrote the gospels themselves, as the texts are attributed "according to" them based on oral tradition. The discussion touches on the controversy surrounding John of Patmos and the writing of Revelation.

catholic church· trinity· apostles· patmos· oral tradition

57:46 Well, all I was referring to is the fact that supposedly some of the saints would be deceived by this miraculous happening that you're referring to. It's in the Bible! Well, a lot of things in the Bible are... don't forget that a lot of things in the Bible were written first of all a long time after Jesus died and the church had a lot, a lot of dogma many many many years after Jesus was gone. The Virgin Mary it's not a long time ago that they decided she was virgin It is not in the time of Jesus that she was declared virgin

58:33 a few hundred years ago by the church. So it has nothing to do with the message of Christ at all. Well, I don't know... You know what? Yeah well make some research and you'll find out if you take the history of the Catholic Church You'll see all the dogma, where they went voted and all the decisions when the Trinity was voted. All this was not in the time of Jesus it was a lot years after and if you study that... I realize that a lot of that was written hundreds of year later like your saying Yes it wasn't the message of Jesus himself Well John is exiled on Patmos and he wrote a lot about revelation

59:16 John, the apostle? Yes. None of the apostles... Now there are like two or three different Johns. John the Baptist I think there's still some controversy over who John was of Patmos But nothing was written by the Apostle after because it is always saying according to John According to Mark, according to Matthew He is a part of the white robes Yes It's the tradition, the robo-tradition that he did was according to them but they never wrote anything. The apostles that were with Jesus, nothing was written by them at all.

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Satan as Eloha, Lucifer's Defense of Humanity

In Raëlian theology, Satan is an Eloha who opposed the creation of humanity and sought to prove humans were too aggressive to survive. Lucifer is described as a separate figure who defended humanity and brought "delight" to the planet. Yahweh is identified as the president of the Elohim on their home planet, overseeing the various factions involved in the Earth project.

satan· lucifer· yahweh· extraterrestrial politics· calumny

59:53 Okay, the Elohim. That's who you're saying this is? Yes. Is Satan involved anywhere in this deal? Satan? Yes! Yeah, Satan was...is an Eloha, he is living as an extraterrestrial He also has a band of angels with him does he not? The thing is that he was the one against creation on this planet Like we answered earlier was a party that was against this creation because he was saying it wasn't successful and we were too aggressive. He wanted to do it differently. We should be destroyed, so he is the one who passed tests on a lot of the prophets and great people in the Bible. He passed tests on them to prove, he wanted to prove to Yahweh which is the president of Elohim that we were not good

1:00:45 Satan, the devil... It's the same person because devil comes from diabolos which means calumniator. That he was saying calumni... You can see this word in English? Calumny? False things is it the word? Calumnia So it was seeing, like he was testing those people to see if they really really loved the creators. So is the one who tried to prove that we shouldn't be deserved to live because we're not successful with too aggressive and Lucifer was... It's another person it's not the same person Is the president of... Was the president on earth to regulate

1:01:32 the creation in them because Lucifer means delight. He was bringing delight on this planet by creating people so if we are on this planet alive right now it depends of Lucifer because he's the one who really defend us and talk for us and say that we're good, and we were going to get better and its gonna be successful And Yahweh is the president on their planet Okay! Next caller you're on air Hi, this is Curtis. I wanted to talk to Ms. Parent about a couple of things Yes? I've uh...I watch your show that y'all present every once in awhile on Access the oh i guess it's a 30 minute maybe even an hour long show

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Raël's White Garments, UFO Horns and Personal Insults

A caller questions the attire of Raël, specifically his white garments, and mocks a visual coincidence where a UFO in a background image appears like horns on Parent's head. Parent defends Raël's role as the last messenger and asks for respect, noting that personal insults do not contribute to the discussion. She clarifies that Raël does not wear robes in his daily life.

raël· white garments· ufo· satanic connection· respect

1:02:19 And there's a couple of things about it that I find kind of curious. After the Halloween come or whatever is going to happen, are we all gonna sport around in those robes like Rael wears? Rouse doesn't wear a robe. He wears the white garment? This is him, this fellow right here... Yes yes yes Do you want to get a close up of this or do you...? Yeah sure You claim that this fellow then what's his role in all of it? He is the last messenger sent by Elohim and his mission is to demystify and explain scientifically

1:03:01 the truth about our origin that all the prophets explained before but had to explain it adapted to people on their time. And people dress the way they want. I mean, if somebody wants to wear a robe it's their choice but actually right now Rael doesn't wear a robe unless he is going out of his shower...I don't know The other brief thing was about half the time when they zoom in on your picture here the UFO that is behind you or this flying saucer looks like a pair of horns coming out of your head

1:03:39 So, you know the connection with Satan there is pretty self-explanatory. It does if we're looking at it yeah so uh you know I hope everybody pays attention to that. It's original! Thanks So basically your religion, I guess it's a religion. It's basically just total anti-Bible because the Bible wasn't written

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Biblical Harmony, Abomination of Desolation and Minority Righteousness

Callers argue that Raëlianism is not harmonious with the Bible, which was largely written 4,000 years before Jesus. One caller identifies the current world forces as the "Antichrist" and claims that righteous people are currently in the minority. The discussion covers the "abomination of desolation" on Mount Zion and the belief that Yahweh's forces will eventually intervene on Earth.

moses· old testament· mount zion· antichrist· righteous minority

1:04:20 After Jesus in fact most of it was written 4,000 years before him when Moses was there That's when most of the Old Testament started being written. Mm-hmm You know past that time and there were you know lots of prophets living together at the same time people used to prophesize in groups None of them mentioned anything you're talking about all the prophecies in the Bible led up to Jesus and Jesus coming back. You know, even Mohammed none of that stuff was in the Bible Jesus was the last one and he's coming back to take over the earth so So the only point I'm trying to make is if you're saying something different than it's not harmonious with what the Bible is saying. So you basically have a religion that was written by that guy Is that true?

1:05:08 I mean who could define...I saw one of your shows on TV here where they were all sitting around a table eating dinner and they said you go to earth and go do this, and they zapped them off the picture. They went flying through the earth Who wrote that? Who decided that's what was happening. I don't remember that show. Well, there is a show on one of these channels where all the Elohims are sitting around eating and they all have blonde hair She probably didn't get chance to do that she not even...she lives in Florida. Well even the uh..all the stuff you're talking about No it is something else that has nothing to do with us Jesus, in the Bible announced that there is going to be somebody else after him who will come to tell the truth. And if you read your Bible properly he didn't say it was the last one He announced somebody else. The Paraclete is called a Paraclete. The other point is I basically think Lucifer's a dork

1:06:10 Hi. Hello! There are people on this planet who are still faithful to Yahweh, I'd say that Jesus was his son and uh... and i think that First will come and if anybody was the paraclete or whatever you're saying. I think it was Mohammed And he talks of the Antichrist too, and he talks about these times and one coming first who is a great deceiver abomination of desolation standing on Mount Zion and proclaiming himself God

1:06:46 Okay, now Yahweh is faithful to his people. He never has wanted to destroy his people There is a war going on here on earth and up in heaven And basically Yahweh's dudes are coming to kick some butt and take some names We're gonna see it all happen here not too far into the future My position is that the anti-Christ forces are in complete control of this world right now. So anybody who's righteous on any front,

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Human Responsibility, Hitler's Education and Positive Action

Mary Helen Parent emphasizes that humanity is 100% responsible for its own mess, including the rise of figures like Hitler. She argues that education and aggressive media contribute to the creation of "wicked" people. Parent challenges listeners to take positive action rather than blaming external forces like the Antichrist for the state of society and their own happiness.

responsibility· hitler· education· media aggression· happiness

1:07:31 I think they're very much the minority. I think what, the responsibility that this world doesn't go well it's not on any force outside of ourselves we create everything which is on this planet, the human being, the society. We are responsible for the mess we are in nobody else there is no anti-Christ coming and doing that to us. We are responsible I think it's the first step. Well let me ask you, you've talked about these bankers these world bankers Maybe the people are responsible for the fact that they have allowed themselves to fall victim to them, but these ones who create and finance wars are perpetrating their system. But they're human beings like you and me

1:08:27 I mean, whatever religion they would... You're talking about wicked people here. Yes there is wicked people everywhere but the wicked people don't forget we are responsible for them The humanity created those people Hitler as an example is the result of a whole humanity thinking of a whole humanity We um..the events create the man. It's not the man that creates the event, with all that we do, we create those people with the education that we give to our children, the value that we give to our children... We are responsible! We cannot put the blame only on the people who are bad and do bad things because we are responsible in a way

1:09:16 the way they are. All of us, all of us... I agree with that. You know it's very easy to point the finger. In other words these people wouldn't be ruling over us and doing this stuff if we were- If they would have had a good education Or if we would have kept them in line Yes well sure anything but especially like Hitler had a mother and father which kind of education he had to beat that kind of evil person is just an example but you got an education that brought him to be like that. So we are responsible, we are responsible to let movies that are aggressive to be on TV That will engender aggressive people later maybe another Hitler We're responsible of them It's too easy to point out the finger and say it is his fault or our fault And we have part to play in this humanity to make it better

1:10:10 It's too easy to sit back and say, well it is the antichrist who does everything bad. I'm not doing anything bad but are you doing something good? Are you bringing something good in this humanity? What do we each of us do to bring something good positive into this humanity? It is too easy to say that its fault is society or government It's all our fault. We are responsible for our happiness, we are responsible for our sadness... ...we're responsible of all the emotion that we have for what is happening in our life a hundred percent! Okay! In case you just joined us, we're visiting with Marie Helen Parent Yes! She is an Aurelian priest and next caller on air

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Patriot Program Goals, US Sovereignty and Globalist Fronts

Jeff Davis defines his "Patriot Program" as a movement to protect U.S. sovereignty from the World Trade Organization, the United Nations, and other globalist front organizations. Parent agrees with this stance, stating she does not support the current brand of world government either. A caller then challenges Parent's honesty regarding the definition of the Antichrist.

patriot program· sovereignty· world trade organization· united nations· globalism

1:11:06 Hello? Hello. Hi Yes, I wanted to thank Alex for calling in tonight. I 100% agree with his point of view. I do feel that this is a total diversion to what we are trying to accomplish with this program and that's about all i have to say What did you try to accomplish with this program Jeff tell me Basically we would classify this program as what some would label it the Patriot Program meaning that we don't want to sacrifice the United States of America to a new world order. Meaning, we don't want to give up U.S. sovereignty to a World Trade Organization, to the United Nations, to these what I would call... The people who control this system are different front organizations

1:12:00 So I fit right in. Yes, because I don't agree with you! You don't? Okay well then there ya go...you don't support that either then right? No. Okay. Next caller your on air. Hello Hi Yeah, I just wanted to say that either this lady is extremely ignorant about Well, do you mind these types of calls? We really don't need personal insults. It's a lack of respect I'm not trying to be personal, but it's either got to be ignorance or the lady is outright liar because some of the things she said like The spirit of Antichrist Which is alive and well in the world? It has been for a number of years She says that means before Christ well

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Strong Delusion, The Paraclete's Truth and Eternal Jesus

A debate ensues over whether the "Paraclete" mentioned in the Bible refers to a truth-teller or a "strong delusion" sent to deceive people. Parent maintains that Raël is the one who will end the "mystery of God" with scientific truth. The caller insists that Jesus is the same "yesterday, today, and forever," while Parent explains this eternity as a result of advanced cloning technology.

paraclete· strong delusion· eternal life· biblical prophecy· truth

1:13:02 The scripture plainly shows that it's not what the meaning of it is, instead of Christ. and any spirit that's trying to preach any other gospel, other than Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Antichrist. And it's talked about in the last days in Revelation, Antichrist and all of these teachings that'll be common in the last days...and as far as these extraterrestrials and everything this is very popular thing on this day especially, and people are looking for answers to the world's problems. The new world order and all this and that... And these are not answers! These are not truths! These are lies! Ask me questions I can give you answers because since I'm here everybody talks about Antichrist and they go on and on but ask me any question maybe I can give you the answer in the book which is very

1:14:04 full of answers that I didn't give maybe just a little tiny pieces tonight because it depends on the question. It's always the same question, the same statement. Yeah it is not a question...it's the statements you're making that are not true and I'm just trying to bring out the other side of what the scripture says because uh... but things you're saying are not true uh... you said that there's someone coming later that is going to tell us the truth yes well that denotes or that indy intimate that um... jesus christ was a liar because he said i am the truth

1:14:47 He was the truth for his time, when he was talking. But he is not a liar and he announced that somebody else after him will come to tell the truth and I cannot state the place in the Bible where it's said but if you read the Bible then you're going to read that. Well read it again because its written in the Bible It is called the paraclet. He said that there will be another, he said there will be another that will come in his own name and it will tell the truth. And people would believe him. I'm going to tell you a little bit more... But he didn't say he would tell the truth, he said it would be a lie No no no no

1:15:27 this person will come and his name is he would be the paraclete that will bring the truth and the mystery of God will be over. It's written exactly like this in the Bible yeah I know what it's written yes and so But he said that there would be a strong delusion that would come upon the people and they would choose to believe a lie rather than the truth. Maybe you are living in the lie? No, I know the truth! I know Jesus Christ You were there when He was here? Did you listen to Him? I'm here now and He's still here See, He said He was from the beginning

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

DNA as the Soul, Cloning Technology and Last Judgment

Parent defines the human soul as DNA, which acts as a blueprint for the body and personality. She explains that the Elohim use advanced cloning to recreate individuals for eternity if they are deemed worthy during the Last Judgment. This process involves monitoring the unique "vibrations" and thoughts of every human being on Earth through a massive computer system.

dna· soul· cloning· last judgment· vibration

1:16:10 And Jesus wasn't just for that time that he walked on the planet. He said, he was in the beginning and will be in the end I mean, he's always been Jesus Christ The same yesterday today and forever Yes, because he is eternal. He lives on the planet of Elohim and is kept alive with the scientific... That's how we can be alive. The Elohim has that scientific knowledge about cloning. It's something we can understand because we know how it works to take one cell in your body you can recreate

1:16:48 the entire personality and body of this person. Well, Jesus is part of the ill being... And that's how they keep all the prophets alive eternal on their planet by this scientific knowledge that they have and if you deserve to be recreated when you die if you deserve eternity after the last judgment-that's how they keep you alive scientifically because when There is no... because the soul, the people would call the soul that people have is the DNA. We are made Jesus was saying that we are made of dust a handful of dust and we're going to go back to dust what he meant is that the way we are created we created from inert matter from the earth with the DNA which is matter too but

1:17:42 that matter has a specific function, it's like it creates blueprints of the inner matter and thats what makes you blue eyes beautiful gorgeous man and all this. That is what the DNA is all about. Well if the DNA is the soul... I'm really not going to refute anything If the DNA is a soul, which you just said. That's the soul of human being but when you die this DNA is programmed in itself to... it's programmed to organize the unorganized matter and after certain time like we are programmed to live about 100-120 years old if we would be healthy after that the matter goes back to the unorganized state on earth

1:18:29 and that's it. So you are alive for a short period of time, you become aware of the infinity... You are infinity becoming aware of yourself! That is what life is all about – that little period of time. And if the science does something about it then you were created and can be eternal, if you deserve it like in The Last Judgment, it's what is written. We have followed our life The Elohim know, they listen to us right now. They know... well they're probably not sitting there and listening but they can know what we are talking about, what you are thinking, what I am thinking. They know everything for every human being on this planet because we have different vibes, different vibrations and in those vibrations all that we think or do is coded in those waves

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Organized Religion Etymology, Raëlian Church Goals

The word "religion" is traced to the Latin "religare," meaning a link between people and their creator. Parent argues that organization is necessary to achieve large-scale goals, such as building the Raëlian embassy in Jerusalem. She compares the Raëlian movement's need for teamwork to the historical success of the Catholic Church in spreading its message.

etymology· religare· organization· embassy· teamwork

1:19:21 and they have kind of a big computer. I try to explain in very simple words so we can all understand, they have like big computers and kept all those vibrations from everybody and they know everything about the person from when he's born until he dies...and then they can judge if that person deserves to be recreated. What is your opinion on organized religion? Like the big religion like Catholicism, Baptism. It all comes from the same place like I said and a religion means it's important to study etymology to understand what a word means and religion comes from religare which means a link between people and your creator

1:20:14 And to have a link between the people, it's important to be organized. Like if you want to achieve a goal like for the Raelians as an example, the Raelian church... If we all believe in it but we're all over the place without organizing to have an interview tonight with you Nothing will happen. We will never build an embassy if we're not organized to do it! We have to put our strength together, to achieve our goal and we want to change the whole planet. We want to make this world a better world. It's a big task very big task so it's important that we are working together as a team towards the same direction and the catholic did the same thing with with the word of jesus you know they built huge huge church, they succeeded their mission but they had to get organized to get there next caller your on air I get criticized

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Jerusalem Embassy Reaction, Gift from Space and Trauma

The Raëlian movement seeks land with extraterritoriality near Jerusalem, though the location depends on Israel's reaction. Parent explains that the Elohim's return will be a "gift from space" providing scientific and wise guidance, though it may cause trauma for those unprepared. She reiterates that the Elohim will judge who deserves to be recreated based on their appreciation for life.

jerusalem· israel· extraterritoriality· trauma· last judgment

1:21:18 You're on air, caller. Hello? I have a question. When you were talking about building the embassy in Jerusalem... Can you hear me? Yes! Well, you're just answering some of my questions that... You're going to get organized to build the embassy in Jerusalem right? Or near Jerusalem. It depends how Israel will react if they accept to give land with extraterritoriality where we can build that embassy But it's destined to happen according to you, right? Yes. It will happen. It might not be in Jerusalem or near Jerusalem. Might be somewhere else depending on the reaction of the people from Israel Okay my next question is when they do come and not everybody accepts them or whatever they turn away from what can happen to those people that don't believe in them

1:22:15 Do they want us to follow them then or what do they want from us after that, after they come and meet us? They don't want anything from us. They love us! They are our parents from space. They created us we are their children. They want the best for us they wanna come because We have something to have from them. They have nothing to have from us, we have everything to learn from them. The scientific advance they have...we can have it from them Their wisdom..We can learn so much from them If they come is because they want to give us a gift They don't expect anything from us And when they come A lot of people who are not ready for this will go into big trauma

1:23:02 because it's going to be a big chain. That is why they appear all the time, everywhere It says in the Bible that in the time of revelation of the apocalypse there will be a lot of signs in the sky and the sign in the sky is the apparition of UFOs everywhere so the population can prepare for that Because its gonna be a big shock when they come Big, big shock And we have to prepared mentally and physically to have a place for them. And what we want is that we spread this message as much as we can everywhere because at least people know about it, don't have to agree but you'll know and when they come you say ah I remember, I heard it and I thought was crazy

1:23:50 Yeah, quite interesting. But you had an opinion but one day you will have the fact because they will come. Okay Did I understand you to also say that the Raelians believe in a last judgment? Yes And are the Elohim going to be the ones who judge everyone? Yes Okay Well... Yes Because they won't recreate somebody who is miserable We don't have fun. We don't like life! Why would... It would be a torture for that person to recreate him for eternity, to be miserable for eternity. That's one thing nobody can fault me for. Say that I don't get enough fun in my life. Maybe I'm one of them. You're on the air caller. Hey we're having fun. Yeah how y'all doing? Good you? Hi. Doing pretty good

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Logic of Creation, Evolution Critique and Laboratory Origins

Parent critiques both the "magic stick" theory of creation and the theory of evolution, arguing that complex beauty like a peacock's feathers cannot happen by chance. She presents the Raëlian alternative: humanity was created in a laboratory by other human beings. This process is part of an eternal cycle where the created eventually become creators on other planets.

raël· evolution· laboratory· peacock· eternal cycle

1:24:47 Have you ever seen an alien? You're talking to Jeff now, huh? No I'm talking to you. No, I've never seen one so... No, I haven't. So you're kind of taking Rael, is that his name? Rael. Your leader, Raal. You're taking his word on it right? Well it's-you really have to read the book to understand what are messages are very, very logical and make you understand things. And it's like a big... It's like if my life was, if I take my example, was like a big puzzle with pieces everywhere and when I read the message

1:25:28 it put everything together. It like makes sense for once in my life, it makes... Everything makes sense! Everything in my life makes sense because of this so its not like I take his word and believe and don't understand when I read the book when I read the book all the Raelians who read the book they.. Its like all of a sudden you understand something And its inside, its something that lives there Its like if the message were there even before I read the book. And when I read the book, I recognized it was there already and that I don't need to see extraterrestrial or aliens to understand that there is no way in this universe we can be alone

1:26:12 It's impossible. It is infinite, it would be very very... Looking at our belly button to see that we are the only one in this universe there is an infinity of and for me makes sense Before Rael's messages there was two possibilities how we came on this planet Only two! God sitting on a cloud with his magic stick created everything in six days Does it make sense to you? And then the evolution that we come from a monkey, that our grandfather is a monkey. That we evolve with everything that there is in nature I live in a place where there's a lot of nature and butterflies You see Donna has at her place a peacock It is so beautiful! The color

1:27:02 How can evolution create something like that? Impossible. You can put letters in a bag and shake it for millions of years, it will never make a dictionary. Never! It doesn't happen like this so that was the two possibilities Okay, doesn't make sense. And now there is this third possibility that we have been created by human being like us in laboratory scientifically with the DNA that for me that made so much sense A lot more than those two possibilities. Who created these people? Finally, a good question! Well I haven't studied this subject very much... The Elohim were created by another races from another planet and it's the eternal cycle of creation

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Infinity of Matter, Absence of a First Cause

The Raëlian philosophy rejects the idea of a "beginning" or a "first cause," asserting that matter has always existed. Parent uses the analogy of making a cake to explain that creation requires pre-existing ingredients. She concludes that human beings have always come from other human beings in an infinite cycle across time and space.

matter· first cause· infinity· cycle of life· creation

1:27:56 They were created by other human beings, they created us and soon we will create other human beings on another planet somewhere. It's in our gene to perpetuate life in universe We're like a virus want to perpetuate our lives everywhere in this big being And it is in ourselves There is no beginning! It's very hard to conceive that and understand that because we think always that there is a beginning. But if you think that there is a beginning, it means that somebody that comes from nothing... like nothing was there, Mr Nothing was there because if something...there's matter and that matter comes from somewhere has to be a beginning but if there is a beginning means that somethings were created from nothing It's impossible! Means that the matter always existed

1:28:55 Because for me it's less trouble in my mind to think that there is a beginning, because it's impossible to think there was a beginning. When you make a cake... You cannot make a cake without flour or without this and this and this. You need ingredients, you need matter to create something And to create human beings you need matter! Where does that matter come from? If you imagine that there is a beginning of it, means that it has been created from nothing. So there's no beginning We come from human being and those human beings come from other human beings eternally That's the infinity, that what the symbol represent The infinity in cycle, in time and space Marie Helen Tyrant? I'm gonna give up

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Raëlian Priesthood, Sensual Meditation Seminars and Levels

Becoming a Raëlian priest involves attending seminars to awaken consciousness, with Raël personally choosing his bishops and priests. Parent mentions that artist Donna Grabeau is a "Level 3" assistant guide. The movement offers free sensual meditation classes to teach people how to live in harmony with themselves and the universe.

priesthood· seminars· assistant guide· sensual meditation· awakening

1:29:44 We have to wrap this up. First off, I want to just ask you what do you gotta do become an Aurelian priest? You gotta go through some course or something? Or how do you become a certified Aurelian priest? Well we have seminars... Because i know that you have a little entourage with you here today Are these people also vying to be Aurelian priests are they under your study? There is different stage and I know Donna is a level 3, which is assistant guide. It's by attending a lot of seminars and growing, awakening your consciousness. And Rael chooses his priest and his bishop to work with him. Is this fellow still alive? Yes! He's alive. Finally do you all have a number or field box

1:30:38 Yes, the phone number is... Yeah it's on TV. No it's yours Jeff isn't it? Okay what's your number 473 7-115 It's going to be written on the screen its a voicemail so please leave your phone number we will call you back And I think they will put on the screen, yeah they will put on the screen all of them because I'm here to give lectures all week in the libraries and the first one will be tomorrow night. And I think they were supposed to put that on the screen but I don't exactly know where it is... It's in my purse actually somewhere

1:31:29 But they're going to write it down before the end where it's going to be. And then we're going to show a video, and answer more questions that we can discuss about it for the lecture here this week that we are going to have. I guess they're going to put a slate on that. Yes, and this Sunday coming up we will have on Sunday morning we are going to have meditation. I will guide the meditation to teach people how the central meditation is done so for the one who are interested in knowing what is the central meditation they are welcome to come everything's free

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Austin Library Lectures, Contact Information and Website

Mary Helen Parent announces a series of free lectures at Austin libraries, including Pleasant Hill, Little Walnut Creek, and the Austin History Center. Contact information for local coordinator Donna Grabeau is provided, along with the official website, rael.org. Jeff Davis concludes the interview by thanking Parent for the "fun" and insightful discussion.

pleasant hill library· walnut creek library· austin history center· rael.org· donna grabeau

1:32:08 Could you tell Donna to bring Linda? Could you tell Donna to bring the poster with... because I don't know which library. Yes, wonderful! Thank You Mike Okay, there's the number for... Now that's the local coordinator for the railing? Yes Donna. It's Donna Grebo that answered those calls and tomorrow night at 7 o'clock it's at the Pleasant Hill Library in Austin and then on Thursday seven o'clock Little Walnut Creek Library in Austin too And Saturday at 1230 it's going to be at the Austin History Center

1:32:53 810 Guadalupe Street. So if you didn't have time to catch all this, you can always call at the number you just saw and for the people who want information we are on the internet so it's... You have to help me in English I don't know how to say that. I'm a metal major on this stuff here. HTTP, I guess anybody that knows computers knows it and then semicolon slash slash www dot R-A-E-L.org Yes, and if you bruise on the internet you can even just write Raelian, r-a-e-l-i-a-n and all the page will appear to you and have more information of what it's all about We could get a number up there, right there is a number Is that the right number? Donna, that's the right number

1:33:48 Is it the right number? That's my number, yes. Yes. The number for information on these seminars or anything else? Yeah. Free library lectures this week. Okay 4737115 I've got to admit it has been very fun you said it would be fun and its been fun. Yes. I'm glad your happy. I didn't know you were going to be as cute as they were though. Alright Go ahead if you will. First off I want to thank you for being on the program. I want to thank you too, welcome me here. We really do appreciate your coming along. Thank you. Go ahead and if you would just give a closing comment or something anything that you haven't said that you'd like to say go ahead and if you would just tell our viewers out there what... Yeah I'd like just to invite people

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

Open-Mindedness, Infinity Symbol Gift and John Wayne Anecdote

Parent encourages viewers to question their social programming and remain open to new ideas to discover their true selves. She presents Jeff Davis with a handmade gift featuring the symbol of infinity, a bird, and a UFO. Davis accepts the gift and shares a brief anecdote about receiving an autographed picture of John Wayne from a friend.

open-mindedness· infinity symbol· john wayne· programming· gift

1:34:44 to open up more on everything in life, because we have been educated. We have been programmed and how much of you is you? I think it's the question. Is it because you've been programmed and educated to believe in a certain tradition and values that it is what you are really and what's good for you so just I don't think it would hurt anybody just to open up and have a newer look on everything, and try to learn. Try...try to put your hands on everything new and make your mind work, and you'll see that you'll find new things and you discover new things about yourself that you didn't know before

1:35:29 You're all welcome to come and meet me at those lectures this week. It's going to be a pleasure for me to answer your questions as much as I can, and on Sunday morning if you want to come meditate then it is very good to learn how to be in harmony with yourself and others I made this for you Jeff. Thanks for having us on the show! Thank you very much, I just was presenting with something and I don't know what it is but... It's a symbol she does that. What is that exactly? That's a symbol of infinity with a little bird and the little UFO here. And you can hang it on your wall with a hook on top. Well I appreciate that, I appreciate that

1:36:10 I always like to receive things. I got an autographed picture of John Wayne about two months back, well it wasn't John Wayne himself but a friend of John Waynes who gave... And he gave it to you? Anyway, appreciate that John. Actually, if you're back in town give us a call and we'll tell you about getting it back on. Yes maybe next year I come back yeah but i try to come when its warmer Yeah It's too cold! Its freezing! Alalalala yes Hello folks this is Mike Hanson your good old YouTube video buddy

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Mike Hanson Archives, Waco Archives and Subscription Drive

Mike Hanson concludes the program by promoting his YouTube channels, Hanson Archives and the new Waco Archives. He urges viewers to hit the subscribe button and provides a phone number and address for those wishing to support the project. The show ends with a final blessing and a call for viewers to stay tuned for more classic footage.

mike hanson· hanson archives· waco archives· youtube· subscription

1:36:58 And we got a new YouTube channel. It's Hanson Archives H-A-N-S-O-N and we got a new one coming out, Waco Archives Be sure to hit that subscribe button right now and if you'd like to write us To help out with this project She is going throw the address up right now for you Alright, and if you'd like to call us 830-672-3089 Go ahead and tell them look at this little puppy. Tell them subscribe say subscribe All right folks god bless