Mister X Calls In To The Jeff Davis Show About Crack Use And Thievery [hev7tkwcMAE]

00:00 Okay, we have We had a discussion two weeks ago. They'll fix the camera in a minute Had to run here quick. Yeah No, I want you in here on this discussion Gary This is very vital we had a discussion on the war on drugs A couple weeks ago Jeff and we had a little opinion that whether The law should be prosecuting so-called crack users and your opinion was no And Gary, I know your opinion was no. And uh...I don't know what your other Gary was-your opinion Gary? My opinion was that there's two sides to every story There is a lot of things being uh...uh...havoc being rendered out here in the world because all these drug users wouldn't you agree? No! Okay let's bring up Mr X and maybe we can get a little bit Mr X are you there

00:52 Wait a minute. He's got one put him on there are you there now? Yes, okay We're not gonna. Okay. Let me just tell you folks we're not going to disclose who this is or Where he's calling from but this is a crack user am I correct yes, okay Now Gary what questions do you have wait man let him look like oh yeah Are you also an admitted burglar and thief sir? Pardon? Are you also a burglar? Sometimes, yes. Sometimes. So you're a self-admitted thief Yes Okay so your self admitted thief and a self admitted crack user okay go ahead Mike No, go ahead Gary Well uh Mr X why did you start using crack

01:44 Well, I got introduced to crack back in 81. I tried it for the first time and it got to the point where when I tried it for the first time I wanted more and more because that high was so verbal. It was like a good high And I still use crack today, but it's not like a major thing. I'm trying to go rehab and get everything situated But like you talked about Bob is not just if the drug dealers want to get caught The smoking would have no if they will be they will catch us moving the drug dealing in the cracks movement myself the there's no way to got built in a way that the police anybody can stop crack or so don't even credit because it is not be around forever is going to be able all are there are one i have my issue questions sir uh... by you by you blame me and the uh... cracked for the out for the for the fact that yourself admitted thief and burglar yester okay how do how do you did about it use of lies that crack usage

02:48 causes you to commit burglaries. Well, crack affects people in different ways. Some people smoke crack and once the high is gone it's gone but some people are heavy on crack once you get that first high you do anything in the world to get there. I don't care if its stealing from your mom or stealing from your friends, stealing from family There's some way you're going have that next high If you really addicted like I am Okay sir but the point I'm making is You're the one Makes the decision right to smoke crack which you supposedly believe makes you go out and commit burglaries So you're the one that makes a decision to smoke crack. All right, I am just all right at all okay, so so to scapegoat the fact that your Use crack

03:44 as a means to, uh... As it means for committing burglaries and being a common thief. Uh, doesn't make sense! You're just basically a burglar and a thief it's a little bit but i got caught up on the go sir because you can't expect to be affected people in different ways like me i still have to do what i should do to get back into now he is going to put where more or less useful once you spoke with someone which is not correct so many folks for so long there's no that the higher did not use to be invited anywhere about but some people

04:20 I saw people in a week and then they smoke crack, and they gotta keep smoking. They get so addicted to it that they'll rob a store or they'll be...I've seen people get killed over $5 that somebody owed them for crack! And I see people getting credit for crack dealers and don't pay em, and the next day you find them in Guadalupe River. That's the way crack is. It affects people different ways." Okay yeah but your still the one who made this decision to smoke the crack? Exactly. So you're basically just a common thief and burglar, is that correct? Yes sir. Okay. Well let me ask you a question Mr. X. What do you think is the difference between being say an alcoholic which is somebody addicted to a legal drug and someone who's addicted to crack which is an illegal drug?

05:10 Well, there's two sides to that story also sir. A crack user and an alcoholic are like running a race because an alcoholic Mr. X, I got another quick question I'm guessing that when you go out and commit burglaries, basically being a thief. You use that money for more than just the crack though right? Food... Well yeah well some people smoke crack they don't eat and some people who smoke crack make some meat. I got friends here where I live at now to where they all drawn up in and they're getting sick because what they doing is not eating

04:20 I saw people in a week and then they smoke crack, and they gotta keep smoking. They get so addicted to it that they'll rob a store or they'll be...I've seen people get killed over $5 that somebody owed them for crack! And I see people getting credit for crack dealers and don't pay em, and the next day you find them in Guadalupe River. That's the way crack is. It affects people different ways." Okay yeah but your still the one who made this decision to smoke the crack? Exactly. So you're basically just a common thief and burglar, is that correct? Yes sir. Okay. Well let me ask you a question Mr. X. What do you think is the difference between being say an alcoholic which is somebody addicted to a legal drug and someone who's addicted to crack which is an illegal drug?

05:10 Well, there's two sides to that story also sir. A crack user and an alcoholic are like running a race because an alcoholic Mr. X, I got another quick question I'm guessing that when you go out and commit burglaries, basically being a thief. You use that money for more than just the crack though right? Food... Well yeah well some people smoke crack they don't eat and some people who smoke crack make some meat. I got friends here where I live at now to where they all drawn up in and they're getting sick because what they doing is not eating

06:19 And a person, if you go down there and steal like I do. I got a cigarette to have it. I gotta drinkin' to have it and I've got a drug to have it but then too when I buy crack first thing that I'll do is buy my cigarette or buy my food other than that whatever I got left I just mess it up! Sir, I would advise you uh... to stop being a thief and a burglar Yes sir. If you can't afford it-I don't care if you smoke crack But if you can't afford it through honest means, then you're gonna have to give it up for something else. You have to stop being a burglar and thief. Yes sir. Okay. Okay Gary did you have anything else? Well Mr X when you started you got addicted to cocaine right do you remember when you first

07:10 Robbed a place or somebody in order to support your habit you know Nobody I never killed nobody the only thing I do I will go to stores and then if people want it If people want something for the store like Walmart, so when I go get it before my head But I never I never kill nobody. I never know rob no story It doesn't like I said is affect people in different ways. Some people go out there and rob stores, some people go out there and kill for dope but see this is just a war on drugs and it affects people in different ways." Well I'm trying to...I don't understand what you just said You robbed stores but you don't rob stores? Can you explain that? He pickpockets us. You're a shoplifter. Yeah I'm a shoplifter so I don't go around robbing stores or snatching women's purses or putting them into cars. I don't do that kind of stuff like that. Well do you remember when you started shoplifting

08:03 Back in 92. So you must have been, I guess at the bottom of your... Brock Bottom and you decided that you were going to have to start shoplifting in order to support your crack habit is that right? Yes sir. Well how did you reach that point Well, it got to the point where I started getting out with my friends and they came to me. And I got introduced to cracking and I enjoyed the high. It was a great feeling but then too when I spoke for the first time I didn't appreciate

08:42 The monkey got back on my back and I was with my same friends, and they were giving it to me. We were three-eyed and everybody else so I stayed there getting higher and higher until one day I broke out from the hospital. It was so damn good that I just go steal this and trade that in and give it some more dough." Gary, I want to bring Gary Teague here. Do you have a question or comment? What do you think about this whole situation we're talking about here? Well as far as the usage of drugs, of course I'm totally against that. I don't use them myself and never have and never will but the part The thievery and burglary I'm definitely against. You know, that's wrong any way you look at it. So what we're saying Jeff is Mr X as long as... As long as you're out there smoking crack and not violating somebody's person or their property i think everybody really don't care if there are people out their doing drugs but that part of that part that the libertarian

09:46 here is the bunch here is probably against somebody violating somebody's property which is taking it. Well, then there's a victim. There's a victim? Explain that, explain that Jeff! Well you can't...there can't be a crime if there's no victim Somebody smoking crack in his house. There's no victim, maybe him but that is his decision whether he wants to smoke crack in his own house It's when you cross that line and violate somebody like Mike said person or property Like what you do when you burglarize and what you've admitted here tonight That's when you crossed that line And you should be punished

10:28 But we don't know who this is or where they're calling from and we're not advocating that. What's that? Well, this is exclusive interview that we don't know who this is and we don't know where they are calling from. That's right! I'm trying to figure out what he was talking about... He said that I should be punished for what I am doing in general. I'm not going around killing people, but you know he kind of upset me by him saying it but everybody got their own opinion. Wait a minute sir i don't care if you smoke. In general? He's talking about... I'm only saying that when you when you if you burglarize

11:10 and you're a thief, then yeah you should be punished for that burglary. Whether you smoke crack has nothing to do with it You're punished just like any other burglar that doesn't smoke crack. Right okay well understand that. Okay Mr. Hagen When you uh... Do you smoke crack or how do you take crack? Uh, you use it on a glass form. You get your glass pipe and they give you some Brillo and then you burn the Brillo then put your dope on there and go from there. I tell them we learned something tonight Gary! The reason i ask this is when you are on crack what do you do? Do you just sit in your living room or... No, I don't smoke crack at my house because I have mom here and kids so I don't do that at home

11:58 I go out, do what I gotta do. Calm down and come home. Going to this thing that Mike and Jeff are talking about, are you harming anybody while you're on crack? No sir. Never have never will no sir I get what i get, go get high with my friends calm down come home And I ain't gonna let them beat the wire for it but be my mom more stiff than a mom's stiffer than a wife Because its not that serious with me Its not that serious They haven't got that serious to the point yet That why im trying do what I gotta do To go rehab just stop before it does get serious Well sir, the only problem I see is that you're being a thief. Like I say... You can smoke crack as far as I'm concerned but when you break that line then.... Is that about wrapping up Mike?

12:50 We what I would like to thank mr. X for coming on yes, thank you Mr.. X For you know clearing up a lot of these things that we all You know a lot of us don't have any knowledge whatsoever about crack or either or marijuana some of these right here marijuana experiences. I'm a pot, but i enjoy it! But I'd like to thank you for coming on and we don't want any bad things to come to you We do want you to get some help if that's what you want. I just advise you that yeah help if you want but stop stealing

13:32 You know in this country as long as you don't violate somebody or somebody's property, you're free to do what I want supposedly Supposedly but see this is the whole problem Jeff that That what's going on here that that it leads to other things and that's why the public's against it right Gary Thank You mr. X you have a good god bless thank you so much