Monday, 16 February 2026

Jeff Davis Talks With John Trochman Militia Of Montana [eYTznZWEVV0]

A foundational figure of the American militia movement outlines a chilling vision of population reduction and the tactical shift from armed resistance to information warfare.

Militia of Montana John Trochmann New World Order Freeman Standoff Cobden Club Michigan Militia Population reduction

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About this episode

John Trochmann, co-founder of the Militia of Montana, traces the origins of his movement to the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Speaking from Dallas, Texas, Trochmann details how these historical flashpoints catalyzed a decades-long investigation into federal accountability. The formal adoption of the militia label in 1994 served as a strategic reclamation of American ancestral identity against perceived government overreach.

Trochmann alleges that a New World Order agenda led by the Cobden Club and Representative Richard Gephardt aims to reduce the American population to 150 million through manufactured catastrophes. He cites the FBI standoff with the Freeman compound in Jordan, Montana, as a turning point where citizen pressure forced a change in federal rules of engagement to avoid a repeat of the Waco siege. Leadership transitions within the Michigan Militia see figures like Norm Olson and Mark Koernke replaced by Tom Wayne as the movement shifts focus toward educational mobilization. Trochmann asserts that modern media serves as a more potent weapon for globalists than traditional military hardware.

Jeff Davis hosts this intense exchange where Trochmann dismisses mainstream reporting as a deceptive force for mass manipulation. The conversation captures the specific paranoia of the mid-1990s militia movement, characterized by Trochmann's urgent plea for listeners to abandon television in favor of independent research. He maintains that the survival of the republic depends on a small percentage of the population achieving total self-reliance.

CHAPTER 01 / 5 Discussion

John Trochmann and Militia of Montana Origins

John Trochmann, co-founder of the Militia of Montana, describes the historical events that led to the organization's formation during an interview in Dallas, Texas. Trochmann cites his military service during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy as pivotal moments that sparked his 22-year pursuit of government accountability. The term militia was officially adopted in early 1994 as a rallying cry rooted in American ancestral history.

john trochmann· militia of montana· cuban missile crisis· john f. kennedy· dallas

00:00 Jeff Davis show on tour up here in Dallas, Texas and we're visiting with John Trockman who is the co-founder of the Militia of Montana. Mr. Trockman it's a pleasure to have you be here for this short little interview. John first off if you would just give us a little brief history What caused you to, or what, how did this Militia of Montana form and what did you see the need for? It's not something that happened overnight. I've been in the military back in the early 60s when there was a Cuban Missile Crisis and watched the missiles stay as ships brought decoys out And it got my attention in very large way. I watched my president get shot in face first time on the podium

00:49 on military television was probably a little more than the public was able to see. So I've been in hot pursuit ever since, you might say for the last approximately 22 years it's almost been 100% involved with us The word militia was a word that we used in early 1994 for probably more of a rallying purpose that anything else It reflected the ancestry of our nation where it started...where it all started from Tell us a little bit, John if you will. I visited your booth over there. Tell us a little bit of your perception of this so-called new world order that we have here? You mean the global grabbers? Right. That's exactly what it is. Global grab for all the natural resources everything that mankind needs to exist as near as i can tell from the information that we have and we have a lot of solid documentation We don't say without it

CHAPTER 02 / 5 Discussion

Global Grabbers and New World Order Population Reduction

John Trochmann outlines a theory regarding "global grabbers" seeking to seize natural resources through a New World Order agenda. The claims suggest a planned population reduction to 150 million people in America by the year 2000, allegedly supported by groups like the Cobden Club and Representative Richard Gephardt. Trochmann asserts that these entities utilize manufactured natural catastrophes and military force to achieve their goals.

new world order· population reduction· richard gephardt· sierra club· global grabbers

01:43 is a population reduction that's well underway. We just haven't seen the body count start coming back yet, and it's going to happen in this country from the information we have the population of America is supposed to be dropped to a maximum of 150 million by the year 2000. Just let me ask you for a minute what are some of the mechanisms? Well, through abortion and they... No way beyond that. It's way beyond that according to the Copden clubs which Congressman Gephard from Missouri is a part of, he is the minority speaker of the house today The population has to be reduced by military force when required

02:22 That's a pretty sturdy statement. But what we perceive them doing is to accomplish this through what the public perceives as natural catastrophes that man has no control over, when in fact they do have control over it being done on purpose. In 1976 I heard the Sierra Club say that we are wasting the natural resources which they believe belong to them at much too rapid of pace and must be culled back. They don't care for the fellow man. More is not enough, they want it all! That's why I call them global grabbers. First of all how many men are there? There are several thousand in the militia of Montana today

CHAPTER 03 / 5 Discussion

Militia of Montana Involvement in the Freeman Standoff

The Militia of Montana monitored the FBI's interaction with the Freeman compound in Jordan, Montana, to prevent a repeat of the Waco siege. John Trochmann claims that pressure from citizens and testimony regarding the anti-terrorism bill in the U.S. Senate forced the FBI to change its rules of engagement. The organization advocates for resolving such standoffs through the court system rather than through military intervention or bloodshed.

montana freemen· fbi· jordan montana· anti-terrorism bill· rules of engagement

03:00 Actually, there's nothing to join. Let me just say this now There is nothing to join and nothing to sign up for if you claim to be a citizen You're it Young or old rich or poor male or female If you have a vested interest to protect your backyard because that is where your children are playing You don't need a paycheck for that but you do need to sign anything But it was the militia in Montana I was told It was camped outside And our support did by the way It was camped outside the Freeman so called compound When the FBI was around We were observing. Let's backtrack that statement just a little bit, we went to Washington DC and addressed the US Senate on the anti-terrorism bill

03:47 The FBI has told us afterwards, and it's not just us. It's many people that have been putting the pressure on... They say that the rules of engagement have changed because of what you and people like you've been doing And they proved that in Jordan Montana They didn't use any military intervention or no bloodshed The statement wasn't made, like I say the statement wasn't made that if the FBI attempts another Waco they won't be leaving Montana. It wasn't quite like that though. Well it's alright, I'll walk it off in a minute. We had people there observing what was going on We believe that this should be aired in court, as corrupt as the courts are. Every time we've been forced to use them, we've made them function properly because we forced the issues on them. We fought and beat at their own game and we believe that the freemen should do the same thing.

CHAPTER 04 / 5 Discussion

Leadership Shifts in Michigan Militia and Media Influence

John Trochmann discusses leadership changes within the Michigan Militia, noting that figures like Norm Olson and Mark Koernke have been superseded by new leaders such as Tom Wayne. He argues that the media is a more powerful tool for the New World Order than firearms, describing modern military technology as mass destruction equipment. The focus of the movement is currently on an educational process to mobilize more than three percent of the American population.

michigan militia· norm olson· mark koernke· tom wayne· mass media

04:40 Let's say Norm Olson, Mark Korneke or like the Michigan Militia. The big ones in Michigan as far as in touch with the people and militias is not Norm Olson anymore and it's not John Stenton or Mark Korneke It's people like Tom Wayne, etc. I wasn't even aware of that. I don't really follow it. But what do you think then John just the ultimate question What do you think then these armed American people I mean I'd like to refer them as citizens but armed American people What do you think ultimately

05:22 could be their function as this new world order continues to get rammed down our throats. Well, the biggest weapon in America today is the media. It's the tool of what you're doing and other people are doing across country to inform, to educate much more powerful than anybody's firearm The firearms that the militia holds is extremely antiquated compared to the lethal technology that our military holds, which they claim are non-lethal weapons. That's a lie! It is extremely lethal and it's mass destruction at one stroke of their equipment What we see and suggest is all happening through an educational process To wake our fellow Americans up Our founding fathers faced the same thing And there were six years of very hard

CHAPTER 05 / 5 Discussion

John Trochmann Final Statement on Independent Research

John Trochmann concludes his interview on the Jeff Davis show by urging viewers to conduct independent research rather than trusting mainstream media outlets. He characterizes the mass media as a deceptive force and emphasizes the importance of individual self-reliance and education. The segment ends with Trochmann identifying as a common citizen working toward national unity.

jeff davis· john trochmann· mass media· independent research· dallas

06:16 gut-wrenching education that they went through to rally their 3%. Now we already know we have more than three percent, but more is not enough. We want all of America together if we're together put away our petty differences and put our nation back together John Trachman, I wanted to say that first off I appreciate your time you spent on the Jeff Niebus program. Did you have a final comment or statement that you'd like to make to the viewers who are watching this show at this time? I sure would. Don't take anybody's word for anything folks work out your own salvation learn to save your own backside learn what it is all about on your own do your own research certainly don't listen to the line lifts of The Great Satan we have to call mass media today. Okay well John again I did appreciate

06:58 I'm just a plain old plow boy. We're all in this together.