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00:00 Hello folks, this is Jeff Davis with the legendary Jeff Davis show from Central Texas USA and I love my cans and archives. Peace out baby! Hello, I'm Bonnie Holman mother of David Koresh you're now watching The Jeff Davis Show if you'd like more information on what happened to Clay Crowe he's a good guy we'll be going over his latest news. Okay now your originally from Arkansas? I'm born into prison and yes I am originally from Arkansas I think you're an interesting woman, Joyce. Now you went on and got... Do you have a degree in criminal justice? I need three hours to finish. Okay, so your close to a degree in criminal justice. Yeah, I've got about 150. And where was that at? Well the last place I went to school the last two years was at Southwest Tech.

00:49 And we're going back, what like 25-30 years back? Oh I would say I'm 59 years old so it's been a while right since i first started out in college. Then you had the Joyce and Mel show. Yes but good thing you didn't say Marilyn Joyce like my can...the late Mike Hanson said well ago The Joyce and Mel show. And then you've just, now you've got this right... Before that I had a radio show at another station before that I worked in Nashville at WSM and before that I raised two children. Wrong of course! I let them watch Gilligan's Island much too much And now you've currently got your... Well, one turned out to be an attorney. What can I say? I'm so sorry! I'm just kidding, Jim. I love him. Okay. Now okay, so now I've got this radio show Yes and the ultimate question that I want to ask is as best as you can define it

01:44 Who is Joyce Isaacs? I mean, from your origins and your beliefs and just different things that you've done over the years. What do you want... Everyone when they pass on they'd like to have some type of... It's a Do-It-Yourself memorial service! Well, I'm just curious though. Is there something wrong with it? Did you talk to my doctor? Is there something that...I mean what is it that you want people to know Joyce Isaacs has? That I tried to make the world better I think, as my husband says she's right out of the blues brother. She is on a mission from God That is a little movie have you ever seen that one? You know where you need to see it No! I think I have a purpose on this earth Now maybe most people or some people think they don't have any purpose But I think I do because life to me would not mean too much if I wouldn't...I feel very personal sense of being about my religion and about my spiritual feelings

02:44 Life has dealt me some blows that I'm like everybody else. I've had some hard times here or there, I started out from a modest little town in Arkansas and and my husband is from Illinois, and he came from a very modest background. He finished college thanks to the GI Bill, and he's worked very hard, I've worked hard, we raised two kids and tried to instill some values in them that I hope will sustain them. I hope I've raised two children that are going beneficial and good to this society. I think that's what we're here for. I don't fight windmills anymore, or I did for a long time but there are some things that simply cannot do anything about it. I don't just you know go ahead on rushing into things I want to change and give all my energy away. I don't do that anymore But i've done somethings when I was going school at Southwest Texas I turned some students in for stealing a copy of the test And then it was like I had the pox

03:48 I thought honesty was real big in college, you know when it said they're going to kick you out of school which they didn't. They should have in my opinion. Uh...I'll stand with you if you need me too If-if you are a crime victim that's another thing I feel very passionate about. I'll go to court with you if you feel like something, ya know Now, I'm not gonna enable you if I feel like your doing drugs or whiskey. You've been doing a lot of whiskey lately? You're not are you That's slow to answer, Jeff. Not too bad No but I mean not trying to be an enabler because that certainly could be that but i'll help people if they need it really will become that's why I'm here and I'm here also to have a good life and enjoy its okay to be happy. I've got to ask you Joyce over the last couple years you've had some programs

04:38 You know, somewhat similar guests and topics and themes that this program has. You know regularly that's the central thing about different corruption in government whatnot Do you... do you... let me just... Well go ahead and ask. I'm going to ask anyway. Do you actually...do you believe in some of the things that these voices are saying or did you just have a radio show and you just believe in the freedom of speech, and everyone has their own opinion. I mean maybe I'm naive but did you... You mean do i have a passion for anything? Have you heard any of these things that over your life that you've been hearing on your radio program the last couple years Well what I think what I've hear most of my life and what I try to tell my children and what I try to tell other people is that we need to think critically about every issue Jeff

05:32 And I think those things have come home to me, in particular with Watergate. This is an anniversary of Watergate isn't it? I believe and they took some of the shine off our national government. I think it's probably always had corrupt people in here or there. It was still the best government in the world but its got some people that aren't doing things that benefit all of us. Its called really a breach of trust I think when you believe that Watergate? No, i mean in the whole sphere of things Yeah You do know that Well, I think when you have a president thats assassinated and then you have Watergate and now we found out this year our government had done some tests on some black men in Alabama. I believe it was Alabama with the syphilis test they did

06:27 They put them into two groups and treated one group with real drugs, and just gave the others... Is it a placebo? Is that what you call it? And I did not tell them for years and years and this makes me so angry. Also a new writer that's come on the scene, he has written a book about number 16 or 17 on the New York Times bestseller list, name of it is Los Alamos and it was based on the Manhattan Project which was the bomb during World War II The more things that I read, I just don't think you should trust everything that you're told. I think you should question it. I've taken some debris for doing shows about the Gulf War syndrome. Okay yesterday...

07:11 came to my rescue because now we're going to find out that indeed, we had some of our people exposed to a very bad chemical situation and we've got to fess up to it. That was in 91 what's this 97 now? That's six years Jeff! People could have gotten some help if the government had admitted you put on the uniform and go fight for this country don't you think it would just we ought to fess up, that we ought to own what we do. What about this new world order stuff of you? Has any of this absorbed... I know it took me several years reading and studying the stuff for me to actually say hey this is what i believe really happened Most of my beliefs about power and money are just people who are Republicans Be a little humorous okay! I do think there are people in power There's something about power

08:04 Some people get some and they want some more, and more, and more. It's power in money. It's interchangeable isn't it? I don't know what concerns me most of all. I think NAFTA is a travesty. I think Texas is going to feel the impact of this. I think we need to do something about our immigration policy We cannot. What about the republic? I know you had McLaren and Archie Lowe... I think what always gets me when i see things on the news, now I don't think you should go into your neighbor's house and you know I'm not for anything like that like allegedly that McLaren did right well they're one of the latest bid I've got they're not even being charged with any issue

08:46 So the whole thing might have been just, you know... Well I'm really not for violence. And if you can and i'm not passive You know your'e not going to hit me and get away with it But uh... Violence we need learn to take care of problems in other ways but The people from the Republic of Texas that was one of the funnest shows I did Because you didn't come up there that day did ya? Did you come with them? No, I was taken on. Well they came up and they had about 50 people with them. They'd been to the courthouse and it was what you might call high theater And they were all over the building

09:22 Everybody at the radio station said, who are these people? And Sam said Joyce this guy stopped me in a coffee shop back there. It was just great you know of course I love a good time They had a lot of people with them it was kind of high theater The people that i've talked to particularly love Archie Lowe and you know the story about his bull beafer and all those things These are people That are having a hard hard time economically and it's really not their fault And I think they probably didn't No. Oh, that's all right. Apparently you had something now I'm going to worry the whole time Linda she came running over here. You're fine you're beautiful absolutely she came over here and yeah no it's

10:11 Y'all are so funny. She came over here and buttoned my blouse back up or did something, no actually she was powdering around on me and yanking at me. No wonder you keep your hat on in this show I think the Republican Texas people are terribly frustrated economically I think they don't know what to do. I think they feel like they're not taking into consideration decisions that this government makes And i think there are many many people out there, Jeff. Some people... I think that and it doesn't you know but it doesn't mean everybody's involved in having resources if thats what I mean thats kind of what I want to get off on this topic too much well no but I think people that are having hard times in particular look at something and I think when the economy is bad that happens and I think our future appears to be very uncertain in this country doesnt'it?

11:09 Well, I think it does but you know I so I think people are a little worried about what's going on. I'm worried now because they came in and fixed something on me Oh The I think people just get kind of disillusioned that I don't know where to turn to all kinds of groups grow when we have a hard time economically or we're unsure politically of things going on. And let's face it, we're not the power that we used to be economically. We don't have any manufacturing do we?

11:46 If we had war, I don't know that we could have a troop train. I was glad to see the Barnum & Bailey Ringling Brothers Circus Train through here. Thought they might let us borrow it if we should need it! We couldn't manufacture any boots... That's the only boots were making now are probably good Texas boots They're handmade and terribly expensive The best in the world, I would imagine They've sent all our industry to Mexico or to Ireland Now all this into China All our toys at Christmas time are coming from there I've gotten on a big campaign about when you buy things read the label did it put somebody out of job and I think when we talk about people being put out of jobs were When you talk about profit profits one thing agreed something else Jeff We all in today. I thought the beauty America was that we had this vast middle class well look around because we don't have much other laughs if you notice that

12:44 All the wealth has gone upscale and then it jumps. Are we going to be like, oh Mexico for instance? We're gonna have two groups of people-the very wealthy and the poor It concerns me terribly, and it concerns me because I have two children that I saw fit to bring into this world. And I wanted to leave them...I don't know they can't have the American dream like Glenn and I had it, I guess We thought you got married and the daddy went out worked real hard and he got a down payment for house and da-da-da-da-dah all of sudden it worked for us. I don't think thats much of an option anymore

13:22 Hmm. Are you asleep? No, I'm taking it all Angelus because you are To me your kind of an icon First of all and twixt my nose Now I noticed that your maiden name is Thompson Thompson yes my great-great grandfather Lawrence Thompson fought in the American Revolution he joined the revolution in Let's see, I'm trying to think. 17... Okay he is on the tax rolls in Orange County North Carolina in 17...I am trying to think 74? Is that where it is? Okay and then he joined the American Revolution and ended up in Indiana

14:10 where he married my great-grandmother and her maiden name happens to have been Thompson too. I just knew they were going to Arkansas, you know we're all kind of intermarried and it was Elizabeth Thompson and then she became Elizabeth Thompson Thompson And they had my great-grandfather, another Lawrence Thompson. And then Lawrence Thompson had James Addison and James Addison had my daddy Hugh Thompson and then me. Daddy was 50 when I was born. His daddy was older when he was born so we got all the Thompson men...I don't know. Both your parents are deceased? Uh huh have been since I was about 17 So if you've got parents you're lucky Yeah You've got a neat step father

14:54 Is that your stepfather? I mean, yeah. Uh-huh. So what's... Are you German or what is the Irish or what do you...? Well, what would he have... What is your background? My pedigree? Yeah. I'm probably English. Thompson's an English Scotch English and my mother's name was Beringer which is very very German A lot of people think that you're Jewish. That I'm Jewish? That's Glen Isaacs. Actually when we married he was a Baptist

15:37 And then we became, I'm Presbyterian. But a lot of people think that because the name just seems... It's very Jewish and some of the Isaacs are Jewish and some of us aren't. Now if it is appropriate sometimes I would be willing to pass myself off as Jewish. I have people who do word association and they'll call me Miss Jacobs Don't you love that? So, that dispels the rumors out there that Joyce is Jewish. I have heard...I probably had at least half a dozen people tell me that over the last six months or so. Oh okay! Well, that's fine if I were. That would be just fine because they've been accomplished and these people have been very important in my life

16:21 In most people's lives. Let's go ahead and try to take a picture of that. At least he didn't wear that stupid Elvis costume this time! Alright, here you go Joyce... I don't know! Is this what that is? Yeah. Is it the picture of that? Well, does it matter? This is hysterical. It says love Jess Davis show staff I'm sure this is what i do you know. May i do that for you? No, but a lot of people volunteer for the mental health association That's what i feel like Jeff when i come over here on this show. I'm volunteering a little bit for you Is Mike cute or what and i'm sorry. He has very good gauges Beth Oh how cute! What are you saying? You know who paid for that

17:10 You know who paid for that. I feel like I'm going to sooner or later. Can we hold it up? Yeah, mm-hmm. Is this cute? You pretty want it here. Just put her right up there then. Isn't that cute! This was our, I think of like January 27 or something. And you had on that hysterical Elvis suit. Did you like that? I loved it! I knew I had to set the tone early. Well... I just came in all, ya know, dolled out like a good-looking rugged guy that you are ex marine oh no, ex Air Force. The uh, ah, You know, I, That's something I really like about you is that your able to be funny

17:51 I get really strung out with people who take everything so seriously. Sometimes, sometimes I'm bothered. You look great in makeup! You think? Uh-huh and you know that's always one of the things I've tried to tell Sam Isn't that nice though? That is darling! Yes It's darling it's absolutely darling And uh you know what i always have tried to tell Sam and Bob they don't need makeup for radio and they just come in every day Have it done for they go on the air. It's just kind of you know a showbiz thing, you know The yeah, uh-huh anyway, I'm just I'm a person like everybody else I have a lot of failings well, the reason why I asked you that George is I have a good bit of respect for anybody and

18:41 My opinion is... Will you respect me in the morning when we're through? I know it takes all kinds to make a world. But, to me, I personally believe that there's just too many people sitting around you know, doing nothing is what I consider to be modern Rome. Burning...you know collapsing down on us. You mean in a handbasket it's going? There are just too many people and the people are just sitting back taking it they're not even paying any attention there isn't anybody that has got any gall or any to step forward and say something or try to do something or even if you can't do anything just you're out there trying better change something

19:22 To me, we need more people like that. Well and I think some of that may have to do Jeff with self-esteem. I think you have to value your opinion. I am terribly disturbed when 17% of the registered voters in this city turn out for a city election People have suffered. So here I go, here's another soapbox I've been on Do you know that women only got the vote in about 1970 some odd years ago? And we haven't always been able to vote and I can remember my daddy's sister who would be like 4,000 if she were alive now No she'd be about 130

20:04 She, maybe 120 but she said that she could remember when the vote came around and that James Edison my grandfather Said they just humble poor farmers. They not I mean me a horse thief in the family You know by everyone imagination to go steal a horse even but he said the Thompson women always voted so My mother and daddy were they thought we needed to vote. They took me to vote with them And I always took my children out took them in the booth with me and showed them how to vote Women you need to vote do you understand? You don't have control over your life as much as you should have but you're never going to have it if you don't get Out and vote then I have another

20:49 In some regards though, I myself may look at that as maybe... Could it be Joyce that people are starting to realize that there's no, that this is a rigged system and there's no choice. There is a choice of to vote or not to vote Well but again if the system is rigged well its gonna then if it's rigged they win If you don't vote Well I think maybe we oughta look at other avenues too To defeat what I consider modern But in this country thats what we have Thats not one avenue

21:25 Go ahead. But we call her the lovely Rita because just as Vanna White turns the letters, the lovely Rita answers the phones. And Rita, we love you darling and especially when you get me some real good mail get me a box of money tomorrow. She's wonderful and she told me I was acting ugly last week and it was I said well y'all get to act ugly all time can i have a turn at it? You know but Rita said I'll tell you Joyce but The other group that it disturbed me greatly African Americans don't vote as they should I remember the 60s surely you remember those too, albeit You are a young thing but i remember what A lot of black People went Through to get the ballot for African Americans. A Lot of people died Jeff so that They Could Exercise Their right To Vote

22:24 If nothing else, think about the people that went before you that made great, great sacrifices. Some paid with their lives. What do you mean, Jim? I'm just taking it in. I feel very patient about this! I am almost to the point of believing that this system is so corrupt now that voting... we're not going to vote our way out of it. What do you think we should do shoot our way out? Well that's why I appreciate people like The Joyce Isaac Show and other people who are providing some alternative information as maybe what happened into the people. You know never advocating shooting our way out

23:00 But there is information. We've also got some callers that have been holding for a long time. Okay, callers just stay on the line here folks. Yeah we're going to be back with you okay I want to tell you about something okay talk over it yeah this is Bethany Cemetery and it's out off uh...I can't remember the address Mike, what is the address of it? Is it where... okay. He's going to tell us the address in just a minute he's going put that up on the monitor. This is Bethany Cemetery and its been such disrepair there are many many slaves buried there now this is part of our history and part

23:39 culture a part of what made this this oh Here we go. Okay, okay here. We go. Okay? We're going out all right. We're taking a little shot there blue We're over in the parking lot at Sam's school That's where it is it to cross the street from Sims elementary school great elementary school I might add and the well-kept Well, it was just a great little school. Of course it's closed for the summer didn't have any kiddos loose but there we are okay and we're going to go across the street here in a minute and show you this Bethany Cemetery see Sam's School? You got a lot of kids that goes to Sam's School when its in session. See how nice it is

24:20 just a great elementary school. And we, so we're out cruising see and taking in some sights because Austin has many many things Jeff that people don't appreciate they don't know about they don't take the time to go visit you know they're all talking about let's see there's Bethany Cemetery and it was established in the late 1800s when burial space set aside for the African-Americans in Austin's historic Oakwood Cemetery was no longer available. It's the oldest recorded person in there was buried in 18, I think it says 1879? Okay but if you'll just look at your monitor look closely and you are looking

25:01 and you'll see what it says. And it's in such disrepair, we need and Sue Spears has been working... In 1997 this became a Texas historical site and I about had a hysterical sight when I saw it because its in such disrepair! This is over five acres of land folks, It is beautiful! See were out there looking at look at the wildflowers that have grown up here Oh, it is now that's right off the street and it fits I guess se ts. Is that the word? Okay look here 1858 do you understand that this person was probably born into slavery Look at that died in 1908 and I started going through there and looking at Gravestones and it um

25:53 1859 that was before the look at that I just I'm amazed at all these and Treasures their absolute treasure sitting out there this Cemetery needs to be taken care of. I think it needs a better fence around it up Okay, Jeff okay Look at this look at this baby. Oh quit looking at that's for they end okay? Look at this baby Look at this time Child was I think one year old and I just, I was so fascinated with that. I just couldn't break myself away of it Look see how little his little baby We need to get this place fixed It's wonderful! It is the people who endured slavery look at it One stone in there

26:46 It had the woman's name, her name was Mississippi and I was telling that today on the radio. I just think this is a wonderful place it's quite a bit of land and it needs to be maintained now as I say Sue Spears Ron Davis have worked on it, but we need to put some there's this is a rich town I mean City Council wasted enough money to maintain it and that was a really bad remark George But it's true see look how high everything is and I got had a few sober moments there when Mike would Would yell watch out for snakes. Okay? And that would kind of jump around and There's a path running through it kids are riding bikes

27:31 And it's, I don't know. It was just... and look how peaceful it is because there's so much land that's not occupied by residences and of course because it's a cemetery. And you didn't go over to see it but I am so taken with it and I'm so... Where exactly is it at? I'm not... Okay, I am trying to think. Born in 1868 that's right around the time of the Civil War and now this, the Taylor plot here was pretty well maintained. I would think that probably the family comes in and works on this particular part of it

28:09 The I'm trying to think what the name of this the name of the street and I've got it written down right here Springdale Road is that what is its Springdale across from Sam? Springdale and East 12th, and it's a cross from Sims school And you can pull up in there as I say There's not much easement when you I mean once you step outside the the gates. I call them the pillars there and such disrepair. There's just not much easement there, it's like a bicycle line and you're in front of a truck but it is just a treasure and someone needs to do something about it I don't know if its going to be me or you perhaps Jeff

28:53 It was so peaceful because it's a cemetery. It is a big cemetery right in the middle of this city and it's practically downtown that now you know because we just keep, the downtown just keeps growing and growing and growing And uh...it needs to We need to maintain it My switchboard number is up there 495-1300 If you will call me I will put you And can't she's busy I think she has children and keeps house and tries to do every other thing in the community you know one of those kind of ladies, and I'll still keep trying. I'll start again tomorrow and try to find her and see how pretty it is It was just but to thank How long some of those people have been? Been out there Have been buried up there resting and Wonder what their life with me

29:52 Wonder what the what's on the tree? Oh, yeah there were that he was showing that graffiti also Mike and I got we're walking around back in there when a way. I wasn't looking for snakes There was the bicycle. I'm thinking maybe they're stolen merchandise stashed in there My friend tiny had called me and she said when she was growing up her daddy had a dairy out That way she said it used to be a lovers Lane which you probably know about parking in cemeteries Jeff And yeah, he's the back trail see I'm standing in the back trail and got run over by a kid on about coming through there He was cutting through their two little girls walk through that they were going to the swimming pool and Someone had a car today on the air that said That several people had okay. That's 18 born in 1845 so

30:41 So that was probably a person now here's the little bit of on the thing going down the low Going down the trail doing see there it and he came back through if you think I'm coming through here a lot or something He said, I'm trying I had nothing graffiti. Look at the houses that are so close to this fence That was another thing I was I was kind of amazed with that. Now here's the one, the wife Mississippi is her name she was born 1952 but I loved it because i would suspect she had come from Mississippi or she maybe had family oh and while you're out there American Airlines is well and running okay because it was flying over we had to quit three times that was all right because it was like

31:24 It was like the past, back before the Civil War and we're propelled into the age that we are now. There's a bank we found. Does it look like anything you've lost? It's being stashed out there now. The...it was- it's a wonderful, wonderful cemetery and its full, it's loaded with history And today I had a real funny thing happen today on the air. I was talking about this and someone had called in And well, I just remember because Monday is always a slow day. A gentleman named John he had called in and he said that he thought many many things were in disrepair

32:00 Strange things happen to me. He said he'd gone to Washington DC Last year maybe a couple years ago friend that lives up there and they had gone out to the Congressional Cemetery Are you what are you yelling? Okay, we'll talk about that in another word it's 21 minutes after 8 are we supposed to give the time or is that pertinent I Not relevant. Okay, not relevant? How about the traffic? Not relevant okay but it's cool in here that's pretty good. Yeah it is! Did Austin have the first Access Channel? I have no idea What do you mean you have no idea?! You have a show here don't ya know your history what if I'm yelling at him

32:43 Hello, hello Cole. Thank you for holding. Well thanks a lot there Jeff Davis and of course the wonderful, wonderful Joyce Isaacs You know I had this fine pleasure of actually working with Luffy one day Oh hi how are you? Luffy! Hi Luffy Hey what's going on Luffy Not too bad did you get your air checked? What's that? Did you get your air checked? Mike Hanson has it well you know i did receive that. He thought you said to get your hair cut yeah I didn't know, yeah I did receive that thank you very much I appreciate it nevertheless I did have the pleasure at one time back in nineteen ninety of working in a cemetery but that was actually overseas and the Persian Gulf You were in a cemetery? In the Persian Gulf? Well there's lots of cemeteries There was actually a Christian Cemetery out there so at one time

33:34 I guess in our company, a few of us had volunteered to go clean up the cemetery. And you know what you're talking about is cemeteries decaying after so many years. Come back to life and seeing it well maintained. It gets you a good feeling I think so, I think it makes us appreciate people that have gone before One of the speaking of that about that cemetery I saw a recent cemetery in Port Lavaca And there was actually a potter's grave. I guess is that same term? Is that terms still used for a potters field for charity cemetery. Right, and this is for somebody who I knew and actually I drove her down there to go see our mom you know she's about 22 years old and her mom died when she was 14 but it was actually kind of a sad state to look at the cemetery uh...to see it so

34:29 you know, run down. You know I've never seen a cemetery in Texas so run down for so many recent graves in there and it's surprising that there are so many of them out there and you know I don't even know if the state has any type of funding to keep this cemeteries up or what? I think my husband said he thought with the historical site Jeff that it was up to whoever owned like a committee or whatever To do that, but we have just spent a lot of money and that's one of the next features Mike And I are going to do on the state cemetery. Thanks to Bob Bullock it's wonderful I Thought its seventh and come out there It is gorgeous, and I urge all of you go see that right okay, baby Thank You. Thank you for calling Lou better appreciate good hearing from me next caller your honor here. Hey Jeff yes, sir this way

35:20 What's going on brother? How you doing ma'am. Good, and you? Joyce how are you doing darling? I'm fine is this Wes? This is it darling Are you the one that...are you putting together the seminar? Seminar this Sunday yes sir Okay that's what I hoped you would tell us about do you know about this Just from last week we uh Do we have anything to put up on that or do you want Well we don't have a slate We don't have a slate You don't have a slate up on it at this time There has been some changes Okay, there's been some changes to it. Yeah Sunday? Did you give the information? Well today is the date and everything is going to be the same Okay because Greg called my show this morning Is that still on go? Oh yeah yeah okay He called in uh said that you were gonna be there and speak with us What do you want me to speak about I don't even know him

36:04 We all want to hear what you say, darling. Oh well I was going to speak on sex today. You were? Well no it would be a short speech. Well you know I am putting this whole thing together and I think the primary focus will be on solutions local, state and federal government. I think it's going to be the hottest thing in Austin Well the thing that I feel very strongly about is we're smart people and we can come up with solutions that work You guys deal with this problem every day you know everyday you deal with it you know you worked at this thing you guy have got a solution do you know what it is? And people need to know that I don't know if we have the solutions well you may not have all of the solutions but everybody there will have at least a piece of it

36:53 I hope so, but we can define some problems. That's the first step isn't it? Sure. Speak up Jeff it's your turn. I think John Trotman from Volusia Montana is looking as good as he can get right now Oh Jeff! She said Jeff! I happen to be a big supporter of Volusia so... Hey Jeff, not only on public access were all doing, we're voting on the internet too you know. Do you have a website up Well, we've got a location where people can find out information on it. And if Jeff, you think they want that I can give them that location. Yeah go ahead and give them all the information Wes, and we'll slap it up there again for ya. Okay. That's what this show is all about. Let me tell ya... That's what this show is all about. You thought it was me over there feeling around on you didn't you? Well, I wish it wasn't any of us.

37:51 George, did you want to go ahead and take a quick five minute break? Is that what you like today? Thank you. You let me drink that soda pop that wouldn't let me bring here into the studio that I own because of my memory. Okay we have a break. We're going to put this on rotation so it can play repeatedly. What we have to do now is actually physically go through block while people are watching the program so they'll just be sitting there watching black because you can go get the popcorn out of the microwave that's a good time it's like a commercial it's like a commercial coming up get the popcorn that doesn't have a lot of fat in it okay we're trying to I've lost a few pounds and I'm trying to lose some more. You know, I have a doctor and a husband that are both

38:40 Now when we get back, I want to mention that you've taken a trip up to Oklahoma City and you've had general pardon. You know, you've taken some heat from some of these various guests and issues So we're going to talk about a little bit of Oklahoma City when we get back. Who is the young man in the shorts and one that always looks starched? Have you ever heard what I said about my cancer? We're out there in the graveyard, tromping around and he's always... He doesn't sweat! Kind of makes me mad and may I sit here they come in here and fix my nose for me blend What are we doing out here? Well, hello folks is Mike Hanson here

41:53 The Gulfwood Cemetery was no longer available. The oldest recorded burial is that of infant Helen Orr in 1879. CW Jones purchased this land in 1892, the Baffinese Cemetery Company formed in 1893 by William Holland Henderson Rollins, Allen Bradley and William M. Pierce maintained the site until 1933 In 1976 members of the Bethany Cemetery Association became caretakers of a 6.18 acre graveyard and improved this site which still serves the area

43:03 This is a shot of this baby. The airplanes go overhead and the babies sleep. We're here at Jeff Davis Show for visiting with Bonnie Haldeman who was David Kretsch's mother here on April 19th, 1997.

44:12 He's ready to say anything you want, but I think a lot of people are curious about what kind of son was David Gray. Well David, to me he was the kind of son any mother would be proud of even as a little boy growing up. He was always kind and honest and loving and very generous...obedient David was very sincere person. a very thinking type person. He was always asking questions of his daddy and his grandpa, they'd get frustrated at him mainly because they didn't know how to answer him so he would go and search and that's what led him I guess to searching the scriptures for help. He loved the scriptures from you know young age of six years old So all i can sum up is that uh...he love God

45:23 I can honestly say, at least from the Jeff Davis show perspective that you all were terribly These people were violated. We had a legitimate government, we would be having indictments on these people because none of us can take a tank or car or something and run it into the structure occupied with men and women and children. A situation like that is just a shock to American people that something like that would happen with the government coming in and army and things like this But whether we ever get any indictments or anything, we've got to remember that God is almighty judge and revenge is not. That's what we have to do if you can't get our government to do what's right. Hopefully something can be done here on earth. People educate themselves in what happens when they see they need to care about the law.

46:26 I love Mike Hanson Archives.