Interview With Raelian Priest Part 2 The Jeff Davis Show Jan 6, 1996 [6y OxEYTToU]

00:02 Okay, next caller you're on the air. Hi this is Curtis I wanted to talk to Ms. Parent about a couple of things Yes? I've uh...I watch your show that y'all present every once in awhile on Access The uh oh i guess it's a 30 minute or maybe even an hour long show And there's a couple of things about it that I find kind of curious. After the Halloween comes or whatever is going to happen, are we all going to sport around in those robes like Rael wears? Rouse doesn't wear a robe. He wears that white garment? This is him, this fellow right here... Yes yes yes Do you want to get a close up of this or do you...? Yeah sure You claim this fellow then what's his role in all of it? He is the last messenger sent by Elohim and his mission is to demystify and explain scientifically

01:03 the truth about our origin that all the prophets explained before but had to explain it adapted to the people on their time. And people dress the way they want. I mean, if somebody wants to wear a robe it's their choice but actually right now Rael doesn't wear a robe unless he is going out of his shower...I don't know The other brief thing was about half the time when they zoom in on your picture here the UFO that is behind you or this flying saucer looks like a pair of horns coming out of your head

01:41 So, you know the connection with Satan there is pretty self explanatory. It does cause we're looking at it yeah. So uh...you know I hope everybody pays attention to that. So goodnight! Hi. Happy New Year! So basically your religion, I guess it's a religion... is totally anti-Bible because the Bible wasn't written

02:23 After Jesus in fact most of it was written 4,000 years before him when Moses was there That's when most of the Old Testament started being written. Mm-hmm You don't have that time and there were you know Lots of prophets living together at the same time people used to prophesize in groups None of them mentioned anything you're talking about all the prophecies in the Bible led up to Jesus And Jesus coming back You know, even Mohammed none of that stuff was in the Bible. Jesus was the last one and he's coming back to take over the earth so So the only point I'm trying to make is if you're saying something different than it's not harmonious with what the Bible is saying. So basically have a religion that was written by that guy Is that true?

03:11 I mean who could define...I saw one of your shows on TV here where they were all sitting around a table eating dinner and they said you go to earth and go do this, and they zapped them off the picture. They went flying through the earth Who wrote that? Who decided that's what was happening. I don't remember that show. There is a show on one of these channels where all the Ellen Williams are sitting around eating and they all have blonde hair She probably didn't get chance to do that, she lives in Florida Well even...all this stuff you're talking about No it's something else that has nothing to do with us Jesus, in the Bible announced that there is going to be somebody else after him who will come to tell the truth. And if you read your Bible properly he didn't say it was the last one He announced somebody else. The Paraclete is called a Paraclete. The other point is I basically think Lucifer's a dork

04:12 Hi. Hello! There are people on this planet who are still faithful to Yahweh, I'd say that Jesus was his son and uh... And i think that First will come and if anybody was the paraclete or whatever you're saying. I think it was Mohammed And he talks of the Antichrist too, and he talks about these times at one coming first who is a great deceiver Abomination of desolation standing on Mount Zion and proclaiming himself God

04:48 Okay, now Yahweh is faithful to his people. He never has wanted to destroy his people There is a war going on here on earth and up in heaven And basically Yahweh's dudes are coming to kick some butt and take some names We're gonna see it all happen here not too far into the future My position is that the anti-Christ forces are in complete control of this world right now. So anybody who's righteous on any front,

05:33 I think they're very much the minority. I think what, the responsibility that this world doesn't go well it's not on any force outside of ourselves we create everything which is on this planet, the human being, the society. We are responsible for the mess we are in nobody else there is no anti-Christ coming and doing that to us. We are responsible I think it's the first step. Well let me ask you, you've talked about these bankers these world bankers Now maybe the people are responsible for the fact that they have allowed themselves to fall victim to them, but these people who create and finance wars and whatnot, they are in fact perpetrating their system. But they're human beings like you and me

06:29 I mean, whatever religion they would... You're talking about wicked people here. Yes there is wicked people everywhere but the wicked paper don't forget we are responsible for them The humanity created those people Hitler as an example is the result of a whole humanity thinking of a whole humanity We um..the events create the man. It's not the man that creates the event, with all that we do, we create those people with the education that we give to our children, the value that we give to our children... We are responsible! We cannot put the blame only on the people who are bad and do bad things because we are responsible in a way

07:18 the way they are. All of us, all of us... you know it's very easy to point the finger. In other words these people wouldn't be ruling over doing this stuff if we were... If they would have had a good education Or if we would have kept them alive Yes well sure anything but I mean especially like Hitler had a mother and father which kind of education he had to beat that kind of evil person is just an example but he got an education that brought him to be like that. So we are responsible, we are responsible to let movies that are aggressive to be on TV that will engender aggressive people later maybe another Hitler We're responsible of them It's too easy to point out the finger and say it is his fault or all our fault And we have part to play in this humanity to make it better

08:13 It's too easy to sit back and say, well it is the antichrist who does everything bad. I'm not doing anything bad but are you doing something good? Are you bringing something good in this humanity? What do you do? What each of us do to bring something good positive into this humanity? It is too easy to say that its fault of society or government It's all our fault. We are responsible for our happiness, we are responsible for our sadness, we're responsible of all the emotion that we have... ...for what is happening in our life a hundred percent! Okay! In case you just joined us, we're visiting with Marie Helen Parent. Yes, yes! She is an Aurelian priest and next caller on air?

09:08 Hello? Hello. Hi Yes, I wanted to thank Alex for calling in tonight. I 100% agree with his point of view. I do feel that this is a total diversion to what we are trying to accomplish with this program and that's about all i have to say What do you try to accomplish with this program Jeff tell me Basically we would classify this program as what some would label it the Patriot Program meaning that we don't want to sacrifice the United States of America to a new world order. Meaning, we don't want to give up U.S. sovereignty to World Trade Organization, to the United Nations, to these what I would call... The people who control this system are different front organizations

10:02 So I fit right in. Yes, because I don't agree with you! You don't? Okay well then there ya go...you don't support that either then, right? No. Okay. Next caller, your on air. Hello Hi Yeah, I just wanted to say that either this lady is extremely ignorant about Well, do you mind these types of calls? We really don't need personal honesty. It's a lack of respect I'm not trying to be personal, but it's either got to be ignorance or the lady is outright liar because some other things she said like the spirit of antichrist which is alive and well in the world has been for number years She says that means before Christ

11:05 Scripture plainly shows that it's not what the meaning of it is, instead of Christ. and any spirit that's trying to preach any other gospel other than Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Antichrist. And it's talked about in the last days in Revelation, Antichrist and all of these teachings that'll be common in the last days. As far as these extraterrestrials and everything this is very popular thing on this day especially and people are looking for answers to the world's problems, the new world order and all this and that. And these are not answers these are not truths, these are lies. Ask me questions I can give you answers because since I'm here everybody talks about Antichrist they go on and on but ask me any question maybe I can give you the answer in the book which is very

12:06 full of answers that I didn't give maybe just a little tiny pieces tonight because it depends on the question. It's always the same question, the same statement. Yeah it is not a question, its statements you're making that are no true and I'm just trying to bring out the other side of what the scripture says because uh... but things you're saying are not true um... you said that there's someone coming later that is going to tell us the truth yes well that denotes or that indy intimate that uh... jesus christ was a liar because he said i am the truth

12:49 He was the truth for his time, when he was talking. But he is not a liar and he announced that somebody else after him will come to tell the truth and I cannot state the place in the Bible where it's said but if you read the Bible then you're going to read that. I know the Bible Well, read it again because its written in the Bible It is called the Paraclet. He said that there will be another, he said there will be another that will come in his own name and it will tell the truth... And people would believe him! I'm going to tell you a little bit more... But he didn't say he would tell the truth, he said it would be a lie because he isn't true

13:30 this person will come and his name is he would be the parrot that they will bring the truth and The mystery of God will be over it's written exactly like this in the Bible Yeah, I know what its written. Yes, and so But he said that there would be a strong delusion that would come upon the people and they would choose to believe a lie rather than the truth. Maybe you are living in the lie? No, I know the truth! I know Jesus Christ You were there when He was here? Did you listen to Him? I'm here now and He's still here See, He said He was from the beginning

14:12 And Jesus wasn't just for that time that he walked on the planet. He said, he was in the beginning and will be in the end I mean, he's always been Jesus Christ The same yesterday today and forever Yeah because he is eternal He lives on the planet of Elohim alive with the scientific, that's how we can be alive. The Elohim has that scientific knowledge of cloning and that is something we can understand because we know how it works to take one cell in your body you can recreate

14:51 the entire personality and body of this person. And that's how they keep all the prophets alive, eternal on their planet by this scientific knowledge that they have and if you deserve to be recreated when you die if you deserve eternity after the last judgment That is how they keep you alive scientifically Because when you die, there is no... because the soul that people call the soul that people have is the DNA. We are made Jesus was saying we are made of dust a handful of dust and then go back to dust What he meant was that the way we were created from inert matter from the earth

15:42 with the DNA, which is matter too but that matter has a specific function that it's like it creates blueprints of the inner matter and that what makes you blue eyes beautiful gorgeous man and all this. That's what the DNA is all about. Well if the DNA is the soul... I'm really not going to refute anything If the DNA is a cell, which you just said... That's the soul of human being. But when you die this DNA is programmed in itself to organize unorganized matter and after certain time like we are programmed to live about 100-120 years old if would be healthy

16:26 the matter goes back to the unorganized state in the earth and that's it. So you are alive for a short period of time, you become aware of the infinity... You are infinity becoming aware of yourself That is what life is all about that little period of time And if the science do something about it then you were created and can be eternal If you deserve it like in The Last Judgment It's what is written and you, we are followed on our life. The Elohim know, they listen to us right now. They know... well they're probably not sitting there and listening but they can know what we are talking about, what you are thinking, what I am thinking. They know everything for every human being on this planet because we have different vibes, different vibrations and in those vibrations all that we think or do is coded in those waves

17:24 And they have kind of a big computer. I try to explain in very simple words so we can all understand, they have like big computers and kept all those vibrations from everybody and they know everything about the person from when he's born until he dies. Then they can judge if that person deserves to be recreated. What is your opinion on organized religion then? Like the big religion like Catholicism, Baptism. It all comes from the same place like I said and a religion means it's important to study etymology to understand what a word means and religion comes from religare which means a link between people and your creator

18:16 And to have a link between the people, it's important to be organized. If you want to achieve a goal like for the Raelians as an example, the Raelian Church... if we all believe in it but we're all over the place without organizing to have an interview tonight with you Nothing will happen. We will never build an embassy if we're not organized to do it! We have to put our strength together, to achieve our goal and we want to change the whole planet. We want to make this world a better world. It's a big task very big task. So it's important that we are working together as a team towards the same direction and the Catholic did the same thing with with The Word of Jesus, you know they built a huge huge church they succeeded their mission but they had to get organized to get there. Okay next caller your on air

19:17 I have a question. When you were talking about building the embassy in Jerusalem, can you hear me? Well, you're just answering some of my questions but... You're going to get organized to build the embassy in Jerusalem right? Or near Jerusalem. It depends how Israel will react if they accept to give land with extraterritory reality where we can build that embassy

19:53 But it's destined to happen according to you, right? Yes. It will happen. Might not be in Jerusalem or near Jerusalem. Might be somewhere else depending on the reaction of the people from Israel Okay my next question is when they do come and not everybody accepts them or whatever they turn away from what can happen to those people that don't believe in them Do they want us to follow them then? Or what do they want from us after that, after they come and meet us. They don't want anything from us. They love us! They are parents from space. They created us we are their children. They want the best for us they wanna come because... We have something to have from them. They have nothing to have from us. Right. We have everything to learn from them

20:45 the scientific advance they have, we can have from them their wisdom. We can learn so much from them! If they come it's because they want to give us a gift They don't expect anything from us and when they come a lot of people who are not ready for this will go into big trauma because it's going to be a big change. That is why they appear all the time, everywhere It says in the Bible that in the time of revelation there will be a lot of signs in the sky and the sign in the sky is the apparition of UFOs everywhere so the population can prepare for that Because when they come, it will be a big shock We have to be prepared mentally

21:32 and physically to have a place for them. And what we want is that we spread this message as much as we can everywhere because we want at least people know about it, don't have to agree but you'll know and when they come you say ah I remember, I heard it And I thought it was crazy, yeah quite interesting. But you had an opinion but one day you will have the fact because they will come. Okay did I understand to also say that the Raelians believe in a last judgment? Yes and are the Elohim going to be the ones who judge everyone? Yes okay yes Because they won't recreate somebody

22:19 who is miserable, who don't have fun. Who don't like life? Why would... It would be a torture for that person to recreate him for eternity To be miserable for eternity That's one thing nobody can fault me for Say that I don't get enough fun in my life Maybe I'm one of them You're on the air caller Hey we're having fun Yeah how y'all doing Good you? Hi Doing pretty good Have you ever seen an alien? You're talking to Jeff now, huh? No I'm talking to you. I've never seen one so... No I haven't. So you're kind of taking Rael, is that his name? Rael? Your leader, Raal. You're taking his word on it right? Well it's-you really have to read the book to understand what are messages

23:16 are very, very logical and make you understand things. And it's like a big... It's like if my life was, if I take my example, was like a big puzzle of pieces everywhere and when I read the message It puts everything together. It makes sense for once in my life, it makes... Everything makes sense! Everything in my life makes sense because of this So its not like I take his word and believe and don't understand When I read the book when all the Raelians who read the book Its like all of a sudden you understand something And its inside, its something that lives there Like if the message were there

23:58 even before I read the book. And when I read the book, I recognized it was there already and that I don't need to see extraterrestrial or aliens to understand that there is no way in this universe we can be alone It's impossible It's infinite. It would be very, very... Looking at our belly button to see that we are the only one in this universe there is an infinity of and for me it makes sense Before Raoult's messages there was two possibilities on how we came on this planet Only two! God sitting in a cloud with his magic stick and created everything in six days Does it make sense to you? And then the evolution that we come from a monkey

24:44 that our grandfather is a monkey, that we evolve with everything there is in nature. I live in the place where there's a lot of nature and butterflies and you see... Donna has at her place peacock, it is so beautiful! The color How can evolution create something like that? Impossible. You can put letters in a bag and shake it for millions of years, it will never make a dictionary. Never! It doesn't happen like this so those are the two possibilities

25:21 Okay, doesn't make sense. And now there is this third possibility that we have been created by human being like us in laboratory scientifically with the DNA that for me that made so much sense A lot more than those two possibilities. Who created these people? Finally, a good question! Well I haven't studied this subject very much... The Elohim were created by another races from another planet and it's the eternal cycle of creation

25:59 They were created by other human beings, they created us and soon we will create other human beings on another planet somewhere. It's in our gene to perpetuate life in universe We are like a virus want to perpetrate our lives everywhere in this big being And it is in ourselves There is no beginning! It's very hard to conceive that and understand that because We think always that there is a beginning, but if you think that there is a beginning means that somebody that comes from nothing like nothing were there. The Mr Nothing was there because it feels something... There's matter and that matter come from somewhere has to be beginning But if there is a beginning means that something were created from nothing It's impossible! Means that the matter always existed

26:58 Because for me it's less trouble in my mind to think that there is a beginning, because it's impossible to think there was a beginning. When you make a cake... You cannot make a cake without flour or without this and this and this. You need ingredients, you need matter to create something. And to create human beings you need matter! Where does that matter come from? If you imagine that there is a beginning of it, means that it has been created from nothing. So there's no beginning We come from human being and those human beings come from other human beings eternally That's the infinity, that what the symbol represents The infinity in cycle, in time and space Marie Helen Tyrant? I'm gonna give up

27:46 We have to wrap this up. First off, I want to just ask you what do you gotta do to become a Raelian priest? You gotta go through some course or something? Or how do you become a certified Raelian priest? Well we have seminars... Because i know that you have a little entourage with you here today Are these people also vying to be Raelian priests? Are they under your study? There is different stage and I know Donna is a level 3, which is assistant guide. It's by attending a lot of seminars and growing, awakening your consciousness. And Rael chooses his priest and his bishop to work with him. Is this fellow still alive? Yes! He's alive. Finally do you all have a number or a PO box

28:41 Yes, the phone number is... Yeah it's on TV. No it's yours Jeff isn't it? Okay what's your number 473 7 115 It's going to be written on the screen its a voicemail so please leave your phone number we will call you back I think they will put on the screen all the... because i'm here to give lectures all week in the libraries and the first one will be tomorrow night. And, um..I think they were supposed to put that on the screen but I don't exactly know where it is

29:28 It's in my purse actually somewhere. But they're going to write it down before the end where it is going to be and then we are going to show a video, we will answer more questions that we can discuss about for the lecture here this week that we are going to have And on Sunday... I guess they're going to put a slate on it. Yes, and this Sunday coming up we will have, on Sunday morning we are going to have meditation. I will guide the meditation to teach people how the central meditation is done so for the one who are interested in knowing what is the central meditation they are welcome to come everything's free

30:11 Could you tell Donna to bring Linda, could you tell Donna to bring the poster with the... because I don't know which library. Yes wonderful thank you Mike Okay, there's the number for... Now that is the local coordinator for the railing? Yes Donna. It's Donna Grabo that answered those calls and tomorrow night at 7 o'clock it's at the Pleasant Hill Library in Austin and then on Thursday seven o'clock Little Walnut Creek Library in Austin too And Saturday at 1230 it's going to be at the Austin History Center

30:55 810 Guadalupe Street. So if you didn't have time to catch all this, you can always call at the number you just saw and for the people who want information we are on the internet so it's... You have to help me in English I don't know how to say that. I'm a metal major on this stuff here. HTTP I guess anybody that knows computers knows that and then semicolon slash slash www dot R-A-E-L dot O-R-G. Yes, and if you bruise on the internet you can even just write Raelian, R-A-E-L-I-A-N and all the page will appear to you and have more information of what it's all about We could get a number up there, right there is a number Is that the right number?

31:48 Donna, that's the right number? Is it the right number? That is my number. Yes. That is the number for information on these seminars or anything else? Yeah. Free library lectures this week. Okay 4737115 I've got to admit you said it would be fun and its been fun. Yes, I'm glad your happy. I didn't know YouTube was as cute as they were though Go ahead if you will. First off I want to thank you for being on the program. I wanted thank you too welcome me here. We really do appreciate your coming out. Thank You. Go ahead and if you would just give a closing comment or something anything that you haven't said that you'd like to say go ahead and if you would just tell the viewers out there what's up? Yeah, I'd like just to invite people

32:47 to open up more on everything in life, because we have been educated. We have been programmed and how much of you is you? I think it's the question. Is it because you've been programmed and educated to believe in a certain tradition and values that it is what you are really and what's good for you so just I don't think it would hurt anybody just to open up and have a newer look on everything, and try to learn. Try...try to put your hands on everything new and make your mind work! And you'll see that you'll find new things and you discover new things about yourself that you didn't know before.

33:32 You are welcome to come and meet me at those lectures this week. It's going to be a pleasure for me to answer your questions as much as I can, and on Sunday morning if you want to come meditate then it is very good to learn how to be in harmony with yourself and others I made this for you, Jeff. Thanks for having us on the show! Thank you very much! I just was presenting with something...I don't know what it is but... It's a symbol she does that. What is that exactly? That's a symbol of infinity with a little bird and the little UFO here. And you can hang it on your wall if that puts on the wall. Well I appreciate that, I appreciate that

34:12 I always like to receive things. I got an autographed picture of John Wayne about two months back, well it wasn't John Wayne himself but a friend of John Waynes who gave... And he gave it to you? Anyway, appreciate that Donna. Actually, if you're back in town give us a call and we'll see about getting you back on. Yes maybe next year I come back but i try to come when it's warmer It's too cold...it's freezing