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Interview With Raelian Priest Part 1 The Jeff Davis Show Jan 6, 1996 [2Lnkn8xQdwE]

A Raelian Priest challenges traditional theology with claims of extraterrestrial genetic engineering and a plan for a diplomatic embassy in Jerusalem to welcome our creators.

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Interview With Raelian Priest Part 1   The Jeff Davis Show   Jan 6, 1996 [2Lnkn8xQdwE] cover

About this episode

Raelian Priest Mary Helen Parent and artist Donna Grabeau join host Jeff Davis in Austin to detail the movement's claim that extraterrestrial scientists, known as the Elohim, created humanity through DNA engineering. Parent argues that the 1973 encounter between the journalist Raël and these beings signaled the Age of Revelation, necessitating the construction of a diplomatic embassy in Jerusalem to facilitate their official return. The discussion centers on the reinterpretation of the Hebrew Bible as a scientific record rather than a mystical text.

Parent outlines the Raelian vision for a global government featuring a common language and the total demilitarization of Earth's nations. She defines the movement as an atheist religion that replaces traditional deities with the Elohim, whom she identifies as the biological fathers of prophets like Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammed. The segment details the practice of sensual meditation to awaken human consciousness and addresses listener concerns regarding the New World Order, national surveillance infrastructure, and the potential for globalist corruption. Callers challenge Parent on the lack of physical evidence and the theological implications of genetic manipulation versus divine creation.

Mary Helen Parent defends Raël as the biblical Paraclete while dismissing traditional Christian dogma as a product of historical church votes rather than spiritual truth. The exchange becomes heated as Jeff Davis navigates accusations of the movement representing the spirit of the Antichrist. Donna Grabeau presents symbolic artwork linking DNA strands to ancient religious bridges, illustrating the Raelian belief that humanity is a biological entity currently navigating a volatile teenage crisis.


CHAPTER 01 / 20 Discussion

Introduction of Mary Helen Parent and the Raelian Movement

Host Jeff Davis introduces Mary Helen Parent, a Raelian Priest, and artist Donna Grabeau to the studio in Austin, Texas. Parent begins explaining the origins of the Raelian movement, centered on the figure Raël who reportedly met an extraterrestrial in 1973. The discussion introduces the concept of the Elohim, a Hebrew term translated as "those who came from the sky," who allegedly created life on Earth through DNA engineering.

jeff davis· mary helen parent· raelian movement· austin· donna grabeau· extraterrestrial· elohim

00:14 Is it something I wear? No, let's see how it looks. Hello Austin Texas we are back and we have another exciting edition of the Jeff Davis show and I want to just mention We're going to play that lead in again in case you all missed part of it There was a lot of work put into that so we're gonna go ahead and play that here either midway through the show or at the end of the show whatever Now we've got another exciting show for you lined up tonight. We've got scheduled to come in, we have Mr Charlie Waits local talk radio personality and a couple of things going on. We've got some stuff concerning Mount Carmel it burned down the little shed that people were living in but before we get to that

01:17 We have a young lady in the studio with us from, correct me if I'm wrong. Her name is Mary Helen Parent and she's what is called an Aurelian Priest. Ms. Parent first off welcome you to The Jeff Davis Show. It's a pleasure to have you here I know you all have a little presentation you want to get to here. You've got this painting back here, Donna? Donna Grabeau is the artist and she's a Raelian here in Austin and she took care of the chapter in Austin So we have a little bit different background at least for the first segment of this program tonight And my allergies are killing me so I'm going to try to muster through this

CHAPTER 02 / 20 Discussion

Scientific Creationism and the Elohim Translation of the Bible

Mary Helen Parent details the Raelian belief that extraterrestrials created humans in their own image using advanced scientific knowledge of DNA 25,000 years ago. She argues that the Hebrew word Elohim in the Bible is a plural term that has been mistranslated as a singular "God." The movement posits that there are no miracles or mysteries, only gaps in scientific understanding that can be bridged through progress.

elohim· dna· bible· hebrew· raël· scientific creationism· miracles

02:06 Okay, Miss Parent. May I call you Mary Helen? Tell us a little bit about what is the Raelian priest and what is the Raelian movement all about. The Raelian movement comes from the word Raël, who met an extraterrestrial in 1973 six days in a row. He explained to Raël that they came here 25 thousand years ago and created everything on Earth right now They created all life, they created human beings scientifically through DNA. So they're the one and if you look in the original Bible in Hebrew... ...you can find the word Elohim and Elohim means those who came from the sky It's a plural And in the current Bible that we have it has been translated by singular word God Which is completely different than what Elohim means because the singular of Elohim is Eloha

03:07 So they're the ones who came here and created us on their image, on their likeness. Like it's written... Their image, their likeness means that there are more than one. And if we are like them then they'll be like us so a human being is like us. That created us. Okay. Now folks I want to just mention that I've studied the Bible rather in depth myself I can tell you that i'm not going to agree with everything you say here. But, I can also tell you that I am not going to agree with most of the things organized religion says because as far as I concerned that's one of biggest brackets gone So keeping my views aside here How did you first get involved in this? It was 1978

04:01 I found the book, Ralph's book in French. And I read it one afternoon and that was it for me. It answers and at the same time creates new questions in my head. It makes so much sense because everything can be explained that we can understand there is no such thing as miracle or mystery. There is just a gap in civilization But if you have enough scientific knowledge, everything can be understood. Even miracles that we think they are, they're not. It's just that we cannot understand it. So what is the Realium Movement then?

CHAPTER 03 / 20 Discussion

The Raelian Embassy in Jerusalem and the Golden Age

The Raelian movement aims to build an embassy in or near Jerusalem to serve as a third temple where the Elohim can officially return to Earth. Parent explains that this embassy requires extraterritoriality and is a prerequisite for the Elohim to share their scientific wisdom and usher humanity into a "Golden Age." The return is expected to include past prophets returning in physical form alongside the extraterrestrial creators.

jerusalem· embassy· third temple· prophets· golden age· extraterritoriality

04:41 What are you trying to accomplish? Well, we have two goals and the primary goal is to spread the message that you have in this book everywhere on the planet. And so far we're doing very well because there is over 35 thousand members on all continents We are in many many countries...over 85 countries The book has been translated into about 25 languages So far Then, in order to build an embassy in Jerusalem or near Jerusalem. That's what the Elohim asked Rael to do, and this embassy is the third temple that the Jewish people are waiting for to build. That's going to be an embassy where there is extraterritoriality, where the Elohim can come officially, come back with all of their prophets like every great prophet it says in their religion that they're going to come back

05:35 and they will, but like in flesh. Like you and me they're going to come back with the Elohim And then they will be able to give us their scientific knowledge Their wisdom and help us too To grow out of this epoch which is chaos and getting into the golden age Before they come we have to make sure that we have this embassy Then to have a little bit more love between each other because if... They won't come People don't accept each other for what they are. We had talked just briefly before the program started, Marie Ellen, and we had talked about this, we heard our leader there

CHAPTER 04 / 20 Discussion

Raelian Perspectives on Global Governance and the New World Order

Parent clarifies the Raelian stance on a "New World Order," distinguishing their vision from a centralized power grab by bankers or politicians. She describes a proposed world council with representatives from every country and a common global language, likely English, to facilitate communication while preserving local cultures. Host Jeff Davis expresses skepticism, arguing that absolute power inevitably leads to corruption regardless of the stated humanitarian goals.

new world order· global language· humanitarianism· decentralization· world council

06:25 One of the leaders and some of the phrase in the world is a new world order. Now it was mentioned to me that you all or at least you had stated on Joyce Isaac show today. I don't know, maybe this is...I didn't get a chance to hear it because of my schedule but that you are on the surface support this new world order? Not the one that they're talking about because we..I don't support people who wants to rule the world just to have power And that's the one we're in right now. Yeah, but it has nothing to do with that... We want a world language where everybody can communicate together But everybody will keep their own identity and their own language To have one language that all of us can communicate together That would be very good I think its probably going to be English Because so far its more spread out in the world is English

07:24 So it's going to be probably the world language for everybody. But everybody will keep their own culture, their own differences because that is what it's all about... It's to be able to be what you are in your own culture and appreciate the differences of others. And one representative from every country will be on that council to make decisions so the world can be a peaceful place to live in, but nothing... it would be humanitarian action. Not something that people would like to take over and take charge and bankers who want to rule the world has nothing to do with that at all. Well I think anytime you get into a situation where there's

08:18 whether it's a concentration of power, whether it be the current rulers or future rulers you're going to have that potential. It depends on... That's why I'm kind of against this whole movement in any way shape or fashion because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yeah, I don't think they are gonna have absolute power So there would be checks and balances. Let's get more back into where I just wanted to bring that up because it was brought up to me, so I had to clarify that. Because the face of this new world order is that the world populace

CHAPTER 05 / 20 Discussion

Raelian Organizational Structure and Volunteerism

Mary Helen Parent discusses her background, moving from Montreal to Miami, and explains that the Raelian movement is composed entirely of volunteers. She emphasizes that members maintain regular jobs and are integrated into society rather than living in isolated communes. The movement relies on the personal time and resources of its members to spread its message.

miami· montreal· volunteerism· commune· social integration

09:00 No, I agree with you. Unless you are a real good slave and want to be led around like cattle. We don't want that. First off where are you from? But I live in Miami now. It's too cold in Montreal, and when I come here it is freezing! It was so nice in Miami...it was very warm. Do you have an occupation? Yes because everybody in the movement are volunteers. Nobody is paid to do this. We do it on our own time and money or whatever.

09:42 So everybody has a job and we are very in the society. We're not like a commune and leave apart, we are involving the society with people. And everybody does what they want to do, you know? What they like to do to earn their living. Now before I get...I know y'all got a presentation here that were gonna get too just a minute here but before we get to that what mostly do you want to say to the viewers of this program. What do you want to say about, I guess what your trying to accomplish or what...what are you specifically wanting to say to people on this particular...as a Raelian priest? That's r-a-e-l-i-a-n is that correct? Yes. Okay! What do you wanna say to the viewers? Well, I can't say a lot. To make a brief summary

CHAPTER 06 / 20 Discussion

Humanity as a Biological Entity in Crisis

Parent describes humanity as a biological entity currently experiencing a "teenage crisis" characterized by chaos and a lack of wisdom despite high scientific knowledge. She asserts that the Elohim's messages provide tools for meditation and consciousness awakening to help humanity evolve into a peaceful state. This evolution is modeled after the Elohim's own history of progression from primitive stages to a "paradise" existence.

biological entity· wisdom· consciousness· paradise· evolution

10:39 These messages are the most important for humanity. The Elohim, when they met Rael, they met him so he can give their message to humanity and it's about... You want me to talk? No you look at the camera there is a monitor right there. Yes yes yes. That's alright! I like to look at you. And you can look at me. Yes yes yes i feel good looking at you Well, you're not too bad to look at yourself. And that's going to change the whole world because right now we are in chaos because humanity is like a biological entity that we were born as babies and growing up and like now we are about teenagers in crisis...and if we want

11:36 to get older as a humanity and to go in golden age, we need more wisdom. Because now we have a lot of scientific knowledge for our young age but with still babies playing with fire it's very dangerous We need to have more wisdom And those messages are wisdom It is pure consciousness To really awaken the consciousness of humanity So we can get in that paradise like the Elohim live in. Because the Elohim went through the same path that were going through, because they had progression and evolution in their humanity too. They were babies, teenagers now they're living in paradise and we can do that to! And with those messages are tools meditation how to love each other more, how to love yourself more it's all in there

12:27 So what I can do is that, I wish to everybody it's a gift. It's a gift from space that we can use to make this world a better world That's...that's what we want to do. I also have to mention too that some of my study Mary Ellen would...Murray Ellen right? Murray Ellen Would appear that this is probably delving into little bit new age Are you familiar with the New Age? I'm not going to say that. I am just bringing this up because I have already mentioned to you that organized religion is one of the biggest rackets, I call it the obey Caesar churches because basically all they do is tell you to bow down to the current rulers and that's largely their philosophy but when you start talking about meditation and some other things

CHAPTER 07 / 20 Discussion

Sensual Meditation and the Awakening of the Mind

The Raelian practice of "sensual meditation" is defined as the awakening of the body's senses to refine the mind and intelligence. Parent explains that because all knowledge enters the brain through the senses, developing sensory receptors allows for a deeper connection to the "infinity" within and around an individual. She distinguishes this sensuality from sexuality, describing it as a general appreciation for existence, food, and nature.

sensual meditation· senses· consciousness· infinity· yoga

13:24 Are you referring to maybe a minor type of yoga or what are you... Well, the techniques that the Elohim taught Rael it's called sensual meditation. And the sensual meditation is the awakening of the body for the awakening of the mind Because everything you have in your mind came through your senses, all of your knowledge and thoughts. It's because you heard it or saw it or tasted it or felt it... That is why you have that knowledge in your mind but if you would not have any senses then your mind will be blank. So it means that all you have there comes through those receptors

14:06 of what surrounds you. So if you awake them, refine them... You will automatically refine and awake your brain Your intelligence, your harmony, your consciousness That's what the central meditation is all about It's to let the place that surrounds you give you pleasure That's what sensuality is all about. And when I say sensuality, I'm not saying necessarily sexuality... it's two different things You can be sensual in your sexuality but you can be sensual when you eat a good meal When you talk with somebody When you look at the sun, when you look at the tree Just to feel more of the infinity that surrounds and the infinity that sits in you That's what meditation is all about It means practice Meditation comes from meditare

14:53 which means practice, it's to practice and the central meditation is to practice your senses. To develop them... to feel more. You have any... so you definitely then are of the idea that see I've had people on my program that talk about Pleiadians or have you done any well just to get into the Greys and Pleiadians and all of the different extraterrestrials that are supposedly flying around all over, which just between you and me I don't believe most of it. I do believe there is anti-gravity aircraft but i believe its again coming from our rulers But do you believe then that there is a... There's an infinity of humanity in universe because the universe is infinite so there is an infinity

CHAPTER 08 / 20 Discussion

Cosmic Laws and the Peaceful Nature of Extraterrestrials

Parent outlines a "cosmic law" suggesting that any civilization capable of interstellar travel must inherently be peaceful, as aggressive civilizations would destroy themselves before reaching that technological level. She dismisses fear-based depictions of aliens in movies as potential conspiracies designed to manipulate the public through fear. According to Raelian doctrine, the Elohim protect Earth and ensure that no hostile outside forces can interfere with human development.

cosmic law· solar system· technology· non-aggression· conspiracy theories

15:44 and indefinitely small, and indefinitely large. It's incredible! But on this planet which is ours the Elohim are the only ones who come here or if they would allow somebody else to come the other one would have to have permission of the Elohim to come here because we are their civilization in a way because they created us so they're kind of protecting us but in a way they don't really need to protect us because there is a law, this is very important so you can take away all the fears of the unknown who lives somewhere else very far. There's a cosmic law that says as soon as you're capable scientifically to get out of your solar system You automatically peaceful because if you're not peaceful suppose take an example ourself

16:37 We're not very peaceful yet, but we have a lot of knowledge and soon will be capable to get out of our solar system. We didn't yet! But before we can go outside of our solar system if we don't get wiser we will destroy ourselves so we cannot hurt other civilization in the universe Because if we're aggressive, we're going to kill ourselves. Destroy ourselves before we can go outside so the extraterrestrials come here they are automatically peaceful because if they have the technology which is very high

17:16 means that they're not aggressive anymore because they wouldn't exist. They would have destroyed themselves, so we don't have to be scared like all the movies that they show to us to scare people I'm wondering how much of those movies are not kind of conspiracy from people to make sure that people aren't scared so they can manipulate them better You see, it's a question to see who are behind all those movies to scare people off so they can be in power more of those people who are scared. We don't need to fear anything at all because those bad people if they're bad I'm sure there is bad people that live on another planet but they can come here. They can. Let me... let's get it, if we could this

CHAPTER 09 / 20 Discussion

Artistic Representation of the Bridge Between Worlds

Artist Donna Grabeau presents a painting illustrating the connection between the "parent" world of the Elohim and the "child" world of humanity. The artwork features a DNA strand transforming into a bridge that ties various major religions together and links them to their scientific creators. The presentation serves as a visual aid for the Raelian brochure's message regarding the transition from philosophical past to technological future.

donna grabeau· painting· dna strand· religion· bridge

18:11 I don't understand much of it. But anyway, Donna made this painting or designed this painting here and I think it needs to at least be shown on... Do you actually want to come up here and explain any of this? Then we'll get your other little presentation here that you have. That looks like a lot of work. Let me get up out of your way here. I wanted to have a concept that showed one world making contact with another world, the parent and the child's world. And I have a DNA strand that transforms into the bridge. Down on the bottom are some major religions

19:26 And this bridge ties the religions together and ties us to our creators. And then I have welcome our scientific creators from space, and so I also have a presentation of kind of the brochure that we passed out. I'll help you with that. Oops! You're in your cord. Sorry? Okay here we go

CHAPTER 10 / 20 Discussion

Raelianism as an Atheist Religion and Human Rights

The Raelian movement defines itself as an "atheist religion" that rejects traditional concepts of divine guilt, deities, and devils in favor of human-centric values. Parent reads from a brochure stating that true religiosity means feeling connected to the infinite universe rather than reciting traditional prayers. The movement advocates for a universal religion based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the pursuit of individual happiness.

atheism· human rights· andré malraux· religiosity· guilt

20:03 I'll read from the brochure and Mary Helen will hold up the drawings. In a time when space travel, genetics and electronics have caused a real revolution the people of today are technologically in the future but philosophically in a distant past men and women... technological progress of their era The belief of guilt and their genuflection and contrition is now obsolete, as are devils and benign deities who assume the right to control others by making people unaware the consequences of their actions. And by favoring that which is most destabilizing suffering."

20:52 Today we want a spiritual life which enhances wisdom and pleasure, improves our consciousness and allows us to feel connected to ourselves. To all other human beings, to all living things and to the infinite universe This kind of spirituality does exist it is Raelianism People have lost the real meaning of religiosity Religion from the Latin means to connect To be religious does not mean reciting traditional prayers that we do not understand. It means feeling connected to ourselves and to the infinity which surrounds us. André Malraux said, The third millennium will be religious or it will not be...and it is!

21:39 Raëlianism is an atheist religion premised on the fundamental concept of the human being. We do not need those religions that legitimize their values from divine rights, thus penalizing those who do not share their convictions. We want a universal religion that draws its legitimacy from values premised on human rights and that is Raelian religion The common denominator of all people is their desire to be happy and to live in a harmonious and peaceful world. So we need values which contribute to the blossoming of every person, and which cultivate human idiosyncrasies in order to replace archaic values whose only function is to maintain traditions."

CHAPTER 11 / 20 Discussion

Global Demilitarization and Personal Growth Seminars

Raelianism campaigns for a planet without national armies, proposing instead a worldwide army of peacemakers to redirect military budgets toward ending global hunger and providing education. The movement hosts "awakening seminars" on every continent to teach "Tadhi" philosophy and sensual meditation. These practices are claimed to foster physiological and psychological potential, which the movement suggests is currently only utilized at a ten percent capacity.

demilitarization· peacemakers· awakening seminars· tadhi philosophy· physiological potential

22:28 Realism means living out humanistic values daily. It means loving yourself unconditionally in order to love others better, it means feeling responsible for our actions even when following orders, it means having absolute respect for life because whoever saves the life of a non-violent person saves the world Being Raelian means campaigning for a peaceful planet without national armies but with a worldwide army of peacemakers. This way the national military budgets can be used to fight hunger throughout the world and everyone has the right throughout their lifetime to have enough food, a place to sleep some clothes and access to education as noted in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

23:21 And there is not a single country that gives the application of these articles of paramount importance priority over the arms race. We Raelians denounce this false position." To mean Raelian also means going beyond tolerance by putting forth a concept which would guarantee peace among all people, love of differences. Not a mere acceptance but a genuine culture of sexual racial religious and other diversities The Raelians developed this new philosophy by meeting regularly particularly during an awakening seminar which are held on each continent

24:03 There are many hundreds of individuals our Tadhi philosophy centered on personal growth and meditation. Now it is proven scientifically that meditation fosters the development of our physiological and psychological potential, which we are only 10%. Raelians practice sensual meditation this word means training in the pleasure of the senses This meditation permits us to increase the quality of the information that the senses transmit to the brain and gradually manage that information completely. Sensual meditation allows us to develop our capacity to harmonize ourselves with the infinity which is part of us and which surrounds us."

CHAPTER 12 / 20 Discussion

The 1973 Encounter and the Message to Humanity

The transcript recounts the December 1973 meeting between the journalist Raël and an extraterrestrial representative who revealed that humanity was created in their image through genetic engineering. This event marked the beginning of the "Age of Revelation," following the 1945 atomic era. Parent mentions that certain crop circles are actually blueprints for the embassy that must be built to welcome the Elohim back to Earth officially.

raël· 1973· genetic engineering· age of revelation· crop circles· embassy blueprint

24:51 The teachings given during these seminars also bring back the importance of pleasure to the life of each individual. They are the last straw for all the anti-pleasure institutions who have broken millions of people seeking a better existence. Isn't happiness, the pleasure you feel at every moment? The Rebellion Revolution challenged existing dogmas Our educators taught us that life on earth is the result of many strokes of good luck or the fruit of the whims of a divine being. These two theories have never been proven, leaving up in the air all existential questions that all people ask themselves. Where do we come from? Why are we here? Where are we going? The Iralian religion brings irrational and revolutionary answers to these questions

25:46 And today we realize that we are not alone in the universe. We are traveling in space, we are discovering the mechanisms of life through genetic engineering and now we're capable understanding that December 1973 a journalist named Real met several times with their representative of an extraterrestrial civilization who told them, we created humankind Your ancestor has deified us. We are the origin of all religions on Earth, and these people from space created humankind in their image thousands of years ago thanks to the mastery of genetic material deoxyribonucleic acid DNA we can trace other enormous feats in ancient texts of many civilizations such as the original Bible where they are called El Hym

26:41 An ancient word meaning those who come from the sky. They initiated all the great prophets like Buddha, Moses, Mohammed and Jesus by giving them a message adapted to the level of consciousness of the people at their time in order to guide humanity into the age of revelation which we have reached since 1945 Now, in the light of our scientific progress we can understand who they are without mystifying. The Elohim wish to come back to earth officially to meet with the leaders of our government and embassy acknowledged by United Nations and they ask Rael to send up the International Raelian Movement and bring this message

27:26 to knowledge to all humanity and this message is in the book called The Message Given To Me By Extraterrestrials. And the messages are here to prepare humanity for the welcoming of the Elohim when they return to the temple that we will build for them soon in the future." The replica. It's like a crop circle that we saw in land, one of them was the blueprint of the embassy that has to be built for the Elohim. Okay... So those paintings, Donna did all of them so she is a very talented woman

CHAPTER 13 / 20 Discussion

Listener Criticism Regarding Diversion and Globalist Surveillance

A caller criticizes the Raelian segment as a "large diversion" from pressing political issues like the national surveillance system and the "New World Order" of globalists. The caller references figures like Galen Ross and Mikhail Gorbachev, arguing that the focus should remain on police powers, thumb scanners, and the $400 million national surveillance infrastructure. Jeff Davis maintains that while he provides a forum for free speech, he does not necessarily agree with the Raelian doctrine.

galen ross· national security administration· surveillance· thumb scanners· c-span· gorbachev

28:34 Well I try. It's kind of like my way of...I have so much inside me that I want to say and... Do you all got some collars? Can you take them real quick? Sure. Because we've been in a hole forever. Okay, do you want to show us? Okay, we have some collars on the hold. Hello! We'll go ahead and take them now whenever y'all... Hello?! Yes sir

29:13 Well Jeff, let me tell you usually you know you have Galen Ross on ex-National Security Administration. Now hold on I'm going to turn it over to Tel Aviv. Can you put it louder a little bit? Yeah Jeff all I was gonna say is this uh You know Jeff's got a great show he's had people on like Galen Ross who has been an international consultant for large oil companies and I've seen his credentials, read about him in other books. He worked for the National Security Administration Jeff has a lot of great facts on his show but I tell you ladies

29:55 I think all this stuff that you're into is nothing but a large diversion. And, I can also tell that Jeff isn't too deep into this and I mean I agree with Jeff. But, I think this is pretty nebulous and I don't think it's on target. I think its a diversion and Jeff I think you got a good show I would just hope that you would not agree with this behavior because mixing this in with your successful movement and the patriot front we're trying to start up in this area, I think this could really...I mean, I know that you like to have a forum for people to come out and have free speech. And I understand that you don't agree with a lot of stuff you have on but I don't know, ladies. It sounds to me like some kind of recycled stuff, you know, some kind of Hinduism for the Western world and I agree with it. The Hubble Space Telescope has categorized 500 billion galaxies

30:48 uh... just that it's been up the last few years to anticipate so i would agree with our life all over space but i think it is all the version we'd worry about the tax bracket the uh... the police powers of thumb scan and a microchip all this israelis all well-known and uh... jeff apartment wrote the first I enjoyed seeing that on your intro it showed one of the thumb scanners that are being installed in all major states now. And, uh... i was watching C-SPAN the other day for people's information out there there is called the National Surveillance System and its a four hundred million dollar building just equipment cost $400 million dollars let me interrupt you for a minute

31:27 You've stated that you're against this enslaving system, and the current regime. I don't know what is his question. Okay, do you have a question? Well my question is this... You know uh..I'll start listening to you and bring an alien on TV and show me one And uh..you know I just- I mean this stuff may be real but it doesn't matter there's so much factual stuff that's so damn strange It happened in this country now and there are so much incredible BS Folks we got that right here in Texas! If you go down you'll be- you'll be computer scan your phone and uh... i mean you're not a criminal but it's been that due to get a driver's license or whatever driver's license if they have built a national grid supposed to be up by nineteen ninety eight pick up the jack computer system

32:15 It's in Layling, Virginia right next door to the CIA. So that's all real All I'm saying and all I'm asking this lady is hey You know, you shouldn't come out against the globalists and the new world order And I was just watching C-SPAN and saw Gorbachev on there earlier today at some big conference Some big global conference so this is all real but your alien stuff? I'd like to see you back it up with some facts right my face until I start believing it Please Jeff don't mix us in with a movement. I know you probably agree with them Have a good evening Okay, I'm going to go ahead and let you respond. Well there's no... he didn't ask any questions so what he says it is his own belief and I respect that So if it's what he believes thats fine Let me ask you do you travel around and go on different shows? Yes we give a lot of lectures in the university and everywhere around the world

CHAPTER 14 / 20 Discussion

Debate on Evidence and the Nature of World Government

Jeff Davis and Mary Helen Parent discuss the lack of physical evidence for extraterrestrials, with Parent arguing that the Elohim will not return until humanity shows more tolerance and respect for differences. She reiterates that the Raelian vision of world government is humanitarian and distinct from the current "power trip" of global regimes. Davis defends his decision to host diverse viewpoints even when they lack the empirical backing of congressional bills or physical artifacts.

evidence· free speech· intolerance· world government· power trip

33:07 Do you have a lot of people doubting what you're saying? Yes, but it's okay. We are not here to convince anybody. We are just here to give the information that was given to Rael for all humanity. There is people who are ready to take it and there are those who aren't and its fine. If somebody is Catholic or Baptist or Jewish and he's happy then thats fine. My situation as a talk show host I'm just trying to do, in fact I don't think there's anybody that I've had on my program that I agree with 100%, not one person.

33:50 as a talk show host, I don't see anything wrong with having people that I don't have to agree with on everything. But obviously you all think this is something and actually... Actually You should have the right to be able to express your own opinion This is very important For some people it looks so foreign that they don't see because it comes from somewhere else another planet but this is about us This is where we come from. This is answering all the big questions, why? When? Who? Where? This is answering everything and it's all the question that we have about ourselves for years. Where do we come from? Where are we going? And I think that this isn't something that doesn't involve ourselves but involves us because its' all about us

34:41 And he might not talk about all what that gentleman talked about precisely, but it doesn't mean it's not as important as what he is talking about. It might be more important but its' not because he doesn't see it that it isn't important. Its' not because nobody sees the truth that it's not there I think what he was referring to...I frequently have like congressional bills that I think are just designed to put more laws on us, make us more slaves. And you can slap that bill up on a camera and show people where they're trying to do this or hate crimes... whereas what he's saying is since there hasn't been an alien thrown in front of us... Well then at Masochist, do you think they're going to come here?

35:36 Because they don't want to be killed. We don't have enough respect for differences, we're too intolerant. are totally against this current plan of world government? Of course. Because what we're talking about in the book, about world government has nothing to do with what's going on now because what's going on now is a power trip and that has nothing to do at all. Okay next caller you're on air Hi how's it goin'? Good and you? Alright Now the word Elohim where did he get that from

CHAPTER 15 / 20 Discussion

Theological Debate on Elohim and Genetic Manipulation

A caller questions the Raelian interpretation of the word Elohim and asks about internal political divisions among the extraterrestrials regarding the human genetic project. Parent explains that some Elohim were against the creation of humans due to their perceived aggressiveness, leading to the destruction of early experiments. The caller challenges the Raelian "humanist" view, arguing it ignores the original Creator mentioned in the Bible before the existence of stars.

hebrew· noah's ark· gene pool· creationism· biblical translation

36:21 It's a Hebrew word, which means those who came from the sky. Where does that come from? If you look in all the original Bible in Hebrew and there is few Bibles in English that kept the word Elohim but very few... it has been all mistranslated by the word God singular. And then you're saying its plural which is extraterrestrial. Yes You can find it in the dictionary Well um..and the other thing is I've seen some of your material playing what uh... is the relationship between the elohim isn't there some political division in on the home world or something where with regard to the experiment that's going on here regarding genetic manipulation and such wasn't there in your doctrine, in your material isn't there something that explains a political

37:21 disagreement between basically the founders of this project and some of the other... On their planet you mean? Yes. Okay, yes because when they came here created everything on this planet Some people on their planet agreed with it and others were not, because when we have been created there was a group that said that this creation is no good. They are too aggressive and its bad experience what we did but the people who were here and created us really took their defense and they wanted to protect us

38:06 and that's what they did when they destroyed everything on the planet. Noah's Ark was a space shuttle that kept all the cells of every species that were created, and preserved it up there from destruction... The ones that were contaminated with extraterrestrial with extraterrestrial semen or whatever, right? The extraterrestrial gene pool became mixed with the planned project gene pool and that was disagreed with. That had to be put to an end but my issue is this... This word Elohim comes from the Bible Yes There is possibly going to be some war over this amongst the extraterrestrials

38:51 the uh... are you can work with you yes okay i heard so anyway there's theirs might be from period disagreement between some of the authorities and some of the other people who were supposed to be our pals here ballpark saying it but i don't have a problem extraterrestrials being involved in the in the in the planning and and and all that planet but uh... the fact that that the Raelian doctrine and such, and information that I received they ignore the parts of the Bible that doesn't agree with that view of the human being you know, the humanist view. And they ignore the Creator You know like there was a creator before there were any stars or before there was anything but in the beginning there was God

CHAPTER 16 / 20 Discussion

Interpretation of Jesus as a Raelian Prophet

Parent asserts that Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammed were all prophets sent by the Elohim to guide humanity according to the scientific understanding of their respective eras. She claims Jesus was the biological son of an Eloha and an earthly woman, explaining his references to a "Father in the sky." Furthermore, she describes the creation of seven human races in seven different laboratories on Earth, reflecting the diversity found on the Elohim's home planet.

jesus christ· buddha· mohammed· joseph smith· seven races· laboratories

39:48 That's the translation in English. Are you saying that the Elohim were here before the first star was created, before the heavens and earth were laid down? Actually, the Elohim didn't create the earth they created everything that was on the Earth and the planets were there. So, there was no before everything? Everything always was? There is no beginning that's what the symbol I'm wearing it represents It represents infinity in time and space. And in the creations of human beings, on every level there is no beginning or end. Christ himself Jesus one of your people who has been appointed by the Elohim, one of your people who has been raised

40:39 himself is saying that God will be here after the last star has burned out. And he says, I don't come to bring priests but division and he says all of these other things. Jesus was sent by Elohim He was a prophet like many of them Buddha, Mohammed, Joseph Smith Well he doesn't seem to agree with anything you're saying here Oh yes we are saying the same thing it's just that we... Go ahead Yeah, it's gone. OK because Jesus when he talked to the people in this time He couldn't talk the same way that Rael talks but they were saying the same thing But he was talking to primitive people They couldn't understand and when I say primitive means with no scientific knowledge

41:22 So he couldn't say the same thing, the same way that Rael is. Rael is here to demystify everything... ...to bring the truth about our origin scientifically which is different but they're saying the same thing because Jesus was one of them He was coming from an earthly woman and His Father was one of them so when He was talking about his father being in the sky it was right because His father lives on another planet. And when he was saying that, he was talking about God... He wasn't talking about God, but Elohim if you take the original Bible because of course if you take the Bible in English or French they talk about God because it has been translated like that But its plural. Elohim is plural because the singular is Eloha

42:16 And if you take, when they say we created human beings on their image and likeness. It's a plural. And they say that we are like them so they're human being like us. They look like us and we look like them. When they came on this planet, they created seven laboratories where they created the seven different races which is very important because we all come from them whatever the color of your skin you have been created by a group of Elohim on their image means that on their planet they have different races too not only white not only black not only yellow whatever but it's

42:58 It's differences which is beautiful. To be different and to respect the differences, you know? To respect the philosophy of somebody else it's very important I respect somebody who is Catholic because if that makes him happy then it's important The most important thing is to be happy That's the most important thing And to respect people Okay folks, we're visiting with Marie Helen Parent. She is a Raelian priest from... You're living in Miami now? Yes. But you were in Montreal. I come from Montreal, Quebec. And if you hope y'all can understand her accent! I hope so! You let me know if you don't understand something. No, I'm doing it. I've got it down now. Yeah. Okay next caller. You're on air caller

CHAPTER 17 / 20 Discussion

Christian Objections and the Age of Apocalypse

A caller disputes the Raelian claim that all religions have the same origin, arguing that Christianity is unique because it relies on the blood sacrifice of Jesus rather than good works. Parent responds by questioning the accuracy of the New Testament, noting it was written centuries after Jesus' death based on potentially distorted oral traditions. She maintains that the current era is the "Age of Apocalypse" or revelation, where the Elohim and all past prophets will eventually return.

salvation· atonement· new testament· oral tradition· age of revelation

43:45 Hi Jeff, how are you doing? Good and you? Hey I think that not the caller that just called in but before that had to have been Alex. And it seems to me that Alex is calling up air... He gets ranting on his show then he gets on your show and rants then he calls in on every show and rants and raves. And geez that guy gets enough air time anyway young lady, in regards to what you're talking about here doesn't the Bible say...the Bible says Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me and when you say that both Mohammed and Buddha and these other prophets said the thing is Jesus Christ that's absolutely not correct because Christ, Jesus Christ

44:40 These other prophets, the other religions, Buddhism and Hinduism and everything. The way to Godhead or the way to eternal salvation is through good works, through self-sacrifice, through mortification of the flesh. And in Christian, true Christian religion, the way to salvation is through death and shedding of blood of Jesus Christ He paid the price for our sins. We were redeemed if we believed that and asked him to come in, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the other thought systems of these other religions, these beliefs. Now am I... what's your response to that? Well... We're in the middle of pictures here but go ahead. Well you know

45:38 Like I said a little bit earlier, the prophet that they came... They were not saying like the exact thing the same way because it was adapted to the people in those times and to the country where they were. Because Mohammed was in a different area than Jesus was so he had to be adapted to the people who were there at the time that this was done but they all were sent by the Elohim All of the religions have the same origin. We all come from Elohim, so there is not a religion better than the other one it was just that at this particular time in one epoch there was only one prophet they sent and never send two prophets in the same time So when Jesus came he was the only one of these times everything that went through Elohim went through him

46:35 But don't forget that in the Bible there is a lot of things that are not written properly. Because, for example the New Testament is the worst because it was written many years after Jesus died. Nothing was written at the time of Jesus. Nothing at all! It was like two or three hundred years after and it was a tradition from word to word with people that couldn't understand anything they were saying and it was word to word for almost 300 years, and after they decided to write things. So can you imagine how deformed it could have been? It's like if you played the game of the telephone we could do here with 4 or 5 people then you say one word at the end its completely different

47:23 few seconds, so can you imagine in 300 years how it came up after? So his message was a message of love. Of having more love between each other that's what the Prophet their mission was all about so we could survive through the time and get to this age where we are now which is the age of revelation, the age of apocalypse We're very privileged to live in this time because will see everything It's the most important time of humanity now Because the Elohim will come back with all those prophets. Everything will be understood and it's going to be in this generation, we're gonna see everything and maybe you're gonna be there Jeff and be able to interview the Elohim. Alright next caller your on air

CHAPTER 18 / 20 Discussion

The Spirit of Antichrist and Biblical Accuracy

A caller labels the Raelian doctrine as the "spirit of Antichrist," asserting that Jesus is the only way to salvation and the unique Son of God. Parent counters by stating that the word "God" does not exist in the original Hebrew texts, which instead use "Elohim." She points to the Kabbalah and Genesis as more accurate documents than later translations and argues that Jesus' message was primarily one of love that has been obscured by church dogma.

antichrist· genesis· kabbalah· son of god· translation errors

48:12 Hello, how you doing? Just fine Jeff. How are you just do it all right? Hey man Alex is really he's going off dude You need to get control For some reason that got disconnected next caller you're on the air Yes. Hi! Hi, I agree with the first three previous callers This religion this lady is preaching is none other than has been around since the time of Cain It's a religion he started and it's gone through Hinduism And I mean you know Jesus Christ said He was the way the truth and the life

48:56 And he did not ever claim to be a prophet. He said that he was the son of God, which is different than these other prophets, Mohammed and all his others They had all their different religions. You can say it came to different people, different places, different times throughout the world but if all of these other religions are correct then everybody can do their own thing and get to heaven if you will on their own merits or their own religion But Christ said that he was the only way. And this is through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ none of the others so-called prophets raised from the dead to prove what they were saying was true

49:49 And there just is no other way. Anything that is contrary to what he taught or what he believed, is Antichrist, it's the spirit of Antichrist and Christ being, meaning that he was the anointed one of God. He is the son of god and if he is the son of god, the Elohim And yes that is a plural word You can read that in Genesis right on through it talks about all that It's one god

50:28 Okay, did you... Well I answered that already. You did? Yes that you know if you take the real original Bible there you don't find the word God you find Elohim and There is other ways. Let me Jesus was one of the prophets The Prophet means prophetess which means the one who reveals so Jesus come here and reveal something Muhammad was here and revealed something And they were all sin He was the only one in his time. That's what he was saying, I'm the only one now! that is connected with the Elohim. But in the time of Mohammed, he was the only one then prophet that was sent by the Elohim and Jesus was the fruit like I said before of an earthly woman and a man from there, an Eloah so He was special in that way for the first time they created their prophet that way

51:30 That's why he was talking about his father in the sky. His father was an Elohim. He didn't say that he was the son of God, because God doesn't exist in Hebrew. The word God is Elohim and all our Bibles come from Hebrew. It was written in Hebrew. Jesus spoke Hebrew not English So he was speaking this language. And with the translation, a lot of mistake and a lot of mistakes too because of the oral tradition of what Jesus was saying The most accurate written document that we can find is in Genesis and Kabbalah which has pretty good information in the Kabbalah Okay! Next caller you're on air

CHAPTER 19 / 20 Discussion

False Prophets and the History of Church Dogma

A caller expresses concern that the Raelian message fits the biblical warning about a deceptive figure appearing in the end times with all the answers. Parent identifies Raël as the "Paraclete" or the last prophet mentioned in the Bible who tells the truth. She dismisses traditional fears of the Antichrist, claiming the term originally referred to John the Baptist (meaning "before Christ"), and argues that much of Christian dogma, like the Trinity and the Virgin Mary, was established by church votes centuries after the fact.

book of revelation· deception· paraclete· catholic church· trinity· virgin mary

52:27 Hello Jeff. How you doing? Listen man, I agree with a lot of the things that Mary's saying tonight The only thing that concerns me is that supposedly if you read Revelations and get off all into that end of it someone is going to come and supposedly have all the answers It's also stated even the most elect will be deceived And I think that's the scary part of this deal. You with me? Yes, yes, yes

53:04 I mean, does that make any sense to you guys? Someone comes and they've got all the answers to our environmental problems. They can solve it all but yet who are these people? You know what I'm saying? Well it was announced that in the time of Revelation, at the time of the apocalypse they would send their last prophet The Paraclete as we call him in the Bible The one who will tell the truth And Raoul's book in French is called the Book which tells the Truth. And he is the last prophet that they sent on this planet Of course it's hard to believe for most of us because we don't... Why him? Why not me, why not this person But you need somebody to be that messenger who will come and he is the last one before they come back here

53:56 And is the Messiah that the Jewish people are waiting for? Is the one who reveals everything, who has all the answers. of what you're talking about? Well, I think what i'm talking about and I don't want to get too traditional. I am just thinking anti-Christ you know... You know..I'm sure you know what I'm talking about Anti-Christ means before Christ and it was John the Baptist because anti if you speak Latin means before so anti-christ was before Christ It means the one who announced Christ He was John the Baptist that was the anti-Christ

54:33 Oh gosh, John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin right? I mean... He's the one who baptized you. He was the one who prepared the welcoming of Jesus before he came in. Well all I was referring to is that fact that supposedly some of the saints, the Christians would be deceived by this miraculous happening that your referring too. I don't know, I never heard about it. It's in the Bible! Well, a lot of things in the Bible are... don't forget that a lot of things in the Bible were written first of all long time after Jesus died and the church had a lot, a lot of dogma many many years after Jesus was gone. The Virgin Mary is not a long time ago that they decided she was virgin it's not in the time of Jesus that she was declared virgin

55:30 a few hundred years ago by the church. So it has nothing to do with the message of Christ at all. Well, I don't know... You know what? Yeah well make some research and you'll find out if you take the history of the Catholic Church you'll see all the dogma where they went voted and all the decisions, when the Trinity was voted. All this was not in the time of Jesus it was a lot years after and if you study that... I realize that a lot of that was written hundreds of year later like your saying Yes it wasn't the message of Jesus himself Well John is exiled on Patmos he wrote a lot about revelations

CHAPTER 20 / 20 Discussion

Raelian Interpretations of Satan, Lucifer, and Yahweh

Parent explains the Raelian view of Satan as an Eloha who opposed the creation of humanity and sought to prove human unworthiness to Yahweh, the president of the Elohim. She distinguishes Satan from Lucifer, describing the latter as a figure who defended humanity and brought "delight" to the planet through creation. The segment concludes as a new caller, Curtis, joins the program to discuss Raelian media presentations on public access television.

satan· lucifer· yahweh· calumny· extraterrestrial politics

56:14 John, the apostle? Yes. None of the apostles... No, no there are like two or three different Johns. John the Baptist I think there's still some controversy over who John was of Patmos But nothing was written by the Apostle after because it is always saying according to John According to Mark, according to Matthew He is a part of those one hundred and one quarter... Yes, it's the tradition, the verbal tradition that they did was according to them, but they never wrote anything. The apostles that were with Jesus... nothing was written by them at all. Okay, the Elohim. That's who you're saying this is? Yes. Is Satan involved anywhere in this deal? Satan? Yes! Yeah, Satan was... He isn't Eloha. He's living as an extraterrestrial. He's one of the Elohim and he also has a band of angels with him does he not? The thing is that he's the one who was against creation on this planet like we answered earlier

57:16 that there was a party that was against this creation because he was saying it wasn't successful and we were too aggressive. He wanted to do it differently... We should be destroyed, so he is the one who passed tests on a lot of the prophets and great people in the Bible. He passed tests on them to prove, he wanted to prove to Yahweh which is the president of the Elohim, that we were not good So Satan, the devil is the same person because devil comes from diabolos which means calumniator. That he was saying calumny... you can see this word in English? Calumni? False things? Is it the word? Calumnia

58:01 So it was seeing, like he was testing those people to see if they really really loved the creators. So is the one who tried to prove that we shouldn't be deserved to live because we're not successful with too aggressive and Lucifer was... It's another person it's not the same person Is the president of... Was the president on earth To regulate the creation in them, because Lucifer means delight. He was bringing delight on this planet by creating people So if we are on this planet alive right now it depends of Lucifer because he's the one who really defend us and talk for us and say that we're good and we're gonna get better and its going to be successful And Yahweh is the president on their planet Okay! Next caller you are on air

59:00 Hi, this is Curtis. I wanted to talk to Ms. Parent about a couple of things. Yes? I've uh...I watch your show that y'all present every once in awhile on Access the oh i guess it's a 30 minute maybe even an hour long