Frontline Texas Jack Blood & Sheila Dean Aug 18th 2008 [HIO5KIqSmmk]

00:05 Welcome to Frontline Texas. My name is Jack Blood, I'm sitting in for Richard Reeves and though i am not a thought criminal, I do play one on television. Welcome tonight folks thanks for joining us A little bit later in the show we're going to be joined by Sheila Dean from the 511campaign.org What is 511 campaign you may ask? It is a campaign to stop biometric passports that is your real ID card Now these biometric passports were designed by the KGB and the Stasi working with your very own homeland security I say that all accent intended

00:44 This is not America as the song goes and we'll talk to Sheila here in just a little bit. We've got a lot of news to cover now who is Jack Blood you might be asking never heard of me before I do a syndicated radio broadcast with the Genesis Communications Radio Network among others our program airs on radio stations throughout America and Venezuela Yeah, you ask why am I on in Venezuela? I asked the same thing myself all the time. I've been doing radio for going on eight years now we've been syndicated for four years and we talk a lot about the police state We do talk about geopolitical actions break that down for people because the news as most of you know don't give us all the answers they don't even ask the right questions They don't even have the right debate A good example of that would be the North American Union Many people are debating

01:35 Will there be a North American Union? Aha! There is a North American Union already, so the debate is over. Now the debate moves to whether or not you think this is good for America or bad Maybe you out there watching tonight hate American sovereignty maybe you would rather have privileges than constitutional rights We're going to give you a chance to call in a little bit later if you're that messed up in the head. Well certainly not discriminate upon your calls but we are going try and explain why these things are important, what's going on here in Texas? What is happening in the world and in the country to kind of bring it all home. It is important these things that happen affect your family and there was really no doubting or excuse

02:21 And there is no, certainly there is no missing that your family is busy working those 2.3 manufacturing jobs Yes that's right now they call the job at McDonald's and they have for some time a manufacturing job So I talk about this on my syndicated radio program and we're going to talk a little bit about that tonight I appreciate being able to fill in for you. A lot of people asking what is going on in Russia? What's going on the rest world and maybe how does that affect me we are literally right now into a Cuban missile crisis and all the analysts I talked to seem to agree with that today on our radio program, we had Dr Bob Bowman who was the head of Star Wars under two presidents. I think he has pretty good understanding

03:08 about what is going on in the world, why there is a missile shield going up in Poland at the perfect time when we have a conflict, geopolitical conflict almost war and potentially even World War in Georgia. Now the misconception is and some of you who listen to radio programs or maybe watch this station on regular basis would think that Russia, The Big Bad Bear has come to attack poor little Georgia maybe about the size of Rhode Island And why would they do that and shouldn't both Obama and McCain come out with very similar scripted rhetoric, similar to even what George Bush and the Bush administration is saying.

03:48 Shouldn't we somehow sanction Russia? Shouldn't we be saber-rattling with Russia and isn't Russia a broken down country after all, and why should we worry about saber rattling with Russia. Why would we worry they're just like Iran They're just like Iraq They're just like Afghanistan They're just like Syria They're just like North Korea The only problem is their not They have thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us right now and all it takes is one person who goes off a little bit half-cocked, if you can excuse the expression. And it's all over! It starts before anyone can say hey wait a minute

04:25 Let's think this out a little bit. Let's have a debate, is that where we want to go? So most people who are watching the news and have listened to our radio program understand the complexities in this now Ron Paul who many of you might be familiar with did a TV interview on PBS public broadcasting systems which is really the Rockefeller Foundation funded, Carnegie Foundation funded TV service that we have to pay for. One of those little pieces that comes out of your paycheck every week or every month and it may not be substantial but it does add up certainly a debate worth having do we need to pay for public broadcasting and national public radio anymore?

05:06 But in this interview in 2002, Ron Paul very astutely pointed out that by the United States of America going and invading Iraq unilaterally preemptively we gave Russia every excuse it needed to invade countries like Georgia or the Ukraine. And history seems to be repeating itself. So very astute of Ron Paul to notice that in 2002 and one of the reasons why he didn't vote for the war in Iraq, he didn't vote for the invasion in Iraq Now how many you out there think that we're safer without Saddam Hussein? Was that the question because that was the debate put forward to us by these so-called mainstream media

05:48 They didn't ask the other questions. What would it say to Russia? What would it say to China, what would it say to countries around the world who might want to perform similar invasions And the fact of the matter is it did say something. It said, well if the United States can go and attack countries unilaterally preemptively and slaughter hundreds of thousands of people well then why can't we? I think that Russia has a certain indignity right now being told what to do especially when you look at this script. Here is a script and it sounds like a lot like a script when everyone's saying the exact same thing as if they are reading line by line from a script

06:27 Notice a lot of times the politicians talk it sounds like they're reading from a script even if they're not and when they're not That's when they tend to say things that maybe they're not supposed to say for instance Barack Obama during a speech in Oregon about three months ago said that Americans have had it too good for too long. Literally quoting the Brzezinski-Kissinger-Scocroft doctrine that economic parity would now have to come to the United States, that we couldn't have our thermostats down at 72 degrees anymore, we couldn't eat as much as we want anymore, we couldn't drive SUVs anymore without being so called ugly Americans. Now all of this kind of fits together and

07:08 And what it says is we cannot go and read from the script and say that in the 21st century, we don't attack sovereign countries because this is the rhetoric that has been pointed directly to Russia. And its laughable! It's made for consumption for potentially 15% of the American population and maybe a very small percentage of the world population Think about what they said. We cannot unilaterally attack sovereign nations in the 21st century Who do they think they're kidding? Now, the fact of the matter is Russia did not attack Georgia backed by the CIA and Saakashvili who was trained at Columbia University by people like Zbigniew Brzezinski And this is all part of the Brzezinski doctrine we've been warning our listeners about now for quite some time

08:00 decided that this was the time and the place for whatever reason, maybe it's a diversion to take our eye off the ball in Iran or some other hot spot around the world. Or maybe it is just a way to engage Russia which is the ultimate plan, the Brzezinski Plan that we have been talking about for quite some time. The fact of the matter is the Georgians trained by the United States, trained by NATO, trained with and working with CIA and Merckx let the attack loose on South Ossetia and the Russians really had absolutely no other way to go than to counter the attack which of course led them right into the biggest cities in Georgia. And there has really been a major turning up of the heat with

08:48 The leaders in whoever they might be, of course most of us know that's Putin old KGB perhaps even the Rothschild family who is heavily invested in Russia still to this day has offices in Moscow. Whoever pushed the button saw this as a perfect excuse sure they can go and help the South Ossetians who are being massacred who are separatist country who wanted their own country and want to be guided by Russia not Georgia Of course, many of us remember the Rose Revolution. Back in the day when that happened in 2004 on our radio program we I thought appropriately said that was a CIA coup, a coup on a sovereign country. Now we begin getting into what Ron Paul talked about during his campaign, the thing everybody said he was a kook to mention and that is unintended consequences.

09:41 So here we are in the year 2008 and this is why it's important to you because your Americans as well as Texans. And here is why it is important, thank-you very much! It is important because we are in a very very scary time right now. It is important because in your name that is your name, YOU out there the watching, listening reading public. In your name we have tortured people we have invaded other countries We no longer have the high ground we no longer have the moral high ground to say to China that you can't torture people as Bush tried to do just a few weeks ago. We no longer have the moral high ground

10:28 to say that you, Russia cannot invade other countries even if it is in your own national security interest. So not only have we spent our credibility under the Bush administration and I'm afraid to tell ya it's not gonna get any better with the two so-called candidates that are running for President of United States right now but in our name by proxy By almost power of attorney, we have used up all of our credibility. Not only can we not police the world anymore but we cannot hold our head up as America in the land of the free and home to the brave. The home of the slave I think is what people are talking about these days so i wanted to start the program with that again on the program today we talked to Colonel Bob Bowman Head of Star Wars We were talking about the Poland Missile Shield

11:20 as if there couldn't have been a worse time to announce that we were giving Poland a Star Wars style missile shield, we found it. Somehow our leaders are so-called leaders trusted public officials managed to find this time to antagonize Russia and the rest of the world in a way that is almost unprecedented So here we are folks literally at a time when we could go back 1960, 1962 1963 and look at the Cuban Missile Crisis we are literally this close. All it takes is the wrong person to do the wrong thing to be misinterpreted and a we're not going to be able to stop it now why I tell you this in what do I expect you to do about one thing is when the entire media is talking about how Russia is the problem in America is

12:14 the good guy in all of this and Georgia is the good guy, I would hope that you wouldn't trust them at face value. And i'm pretty sure you won't because the mainstream media has been losing readers and viewers and listeners on a regular basis most likely they're going to watching a program like this or they're going to your blog or website Or reading a book that they're not supposed to read. You know, one of those dirty banned books that are coming here As I like to say so many things to read So little time to read them before they're burned So the first thing we have to do is not just take the mainstream media's word or these politicians' word at face value. I hope that most of you understand that, I can't believe that anybody watching this show tonight would just without even questioning trust what the mainstream media tells you are what a politician might tell you and i think the old adage comes true how do you tell when a politician is lying their lips are moving

13:15 So, we know and as Bill Hicks the great comedian used to say all governments are murderers and liars. If we start at that point we begin asking questions and as I mentioned at the top of the program tonight We want to have the proper debate. That is the most important thing we cannot say to ourselves here as Texans or wherever you might be living that's happening halfway across the world it doesn't concern me because it certainly does in fact, it infects...it affects the price of oil, the price of gasoline, the price of food

13:51 it affects national security which somehow always seems to filter down to your local police force, your local politicians as we begin taking homeland security money here. I can't imagine it'll be too long before they tell us that Russians with suitcase nukes are coming over the border and that's why we need to have national ID cards, no work list, no fly lists etc. In fact today if you live in Texas Our governor, Rick Haredew Perry. I was a cheerleader too. That's his full name he doesn't often use it in the media came out with a new program and the new program is based on kind of the Amber Alert Program

14:36 Perry announces fugitive capture program. There it is folks, it's to get the fugitives and its to protect the police now this program is surrounded, it's based on something called the Blue Alert Network And it is based on if by some coincidence a police officer is injured or shot at, they can put out the equivalent of an Amber Alert statewide to catch the cop killers. Now like the Amber Alert this has many concerns which affect your Bill of Rights your Fourth Amendment right

15:18 your Fifth Amendment right because they don't ask. If a police officer gets shot, they basically now through this law passed by Rick Perry executive order that they can go and they could come right in your home. They can put up roadblocks and check you in your car So, what are the numbers you might ask? How many police were killed in say the year 2007. 22 police officers died in Texas in 2007 only 10 of those were by doing their job, directly doing their job not an accident maybe a shooting or they were injured somehow on the job and then later perished from that. So because of that do we need to have...and this is a question will be asking you later in the program if you'd like to call in give us your opinion Because a police officer is injured by a criminal now keeping in mind that it's the definition up there work they're supposed to be tracking down criminals and it can't be dangerous very dangerous work

16:20 But, thanks to the Blue Alert Network you will be a suspect. Everybody will be a suspect if take a look at the Amber Alert this is how these operations are because a child could be kidnapped or somehow in danger all bets are off now this happened to me in Arizona where I used to live in Phoenix Arizona Mesa to be correct and a child had disappeared off the street and they went house to house searching for that child. Now if you didn't let the police into your house, well you would automatically become a suspect why won't you let the police in your house without a warrant? You would have to assume that you are somehow guilty because wouldn't all law-abiding citizens just let the police come in anytime they want into your home I mean these are the debates and questions we need to have

17:13 So when we're talking about this new program, the Fugitive Capture Program or the Blue Alert Network now announced by Rick Perry what we're really saying is let's put up more police control. More police state control. More draconian legislation and let's do it for the children Let's do it for the cops Now people are obviously going to accept that and anybody who would vote against or disagree with such a program certainly hates children and hates police. I mean, that is really how the Patriot Act got signed into law you should read if you haven't section 802 of the Patriot Act which basically says jaywalking or speeding is an act of terrorism

17:55 They begin to redefine these issues in such a way and to make them political, to make it patriotically correct for you to go along with these issues. If you do not, your'e not patriotic! You hate children! You hate cops! Here's what the blue alert program basically says A law enforcement officer is killed or seriously injured by an offender activate the blue alert An investigating law enforcement agency determines the offender poses a serious risk or threat to the public and other law enforcement personnel, activate the blue alert. A detailed description of the officer's vehicle tag and partial tag is available for broadcast to the public

18:42 The investigating law enforcement agency or jurisdiction allegedly submits a blue alert request to GDEM. And that's it, we're on Blue Alert at that very moment now if you get in the way of the Blue Alert God help you! There isn't a 4th Amendment right anymore. There isn't a 5th Amendment right anymore Now look, let's all be rational here and use some common sense I would like to catch a cop killer as much as anyone else but since when did we start trusting the government that a cop was killed and that the offender is on the loose? How many times have we seen with terrorism

19:19 you know, some nitwits were caught and enticed through a sting operation in order to bomb the Sears Tower. I'm thinking of the Liberty 7 in Florida They didn't have any money they didn't have any motive to bomb the Sears Tower or any other government edifices but they were enticed an FBI agent infiltrated them said he was with Al Qaeda said he can get them $500,000 You know, they were playing him for the money It was a reverse scam in their opinion. The only thing that they didn't understand because they were not too bright, was that they were being set up A jury just acquitted most of those people just a couple months ago In fact if you look at the data almost every terrorist that has been apprehended over the last several years has been acquitted or they're still waiting in limbo at a place like Gitmo to be tried So when do we start trusting

20:18 the government. When do we start trusting the police? When do we start trusting these so-called authorities to tell us when something is wrong and we need to automatically give up our rights Now most of you know that Ben Franklin quote, those who would give up their liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security This will kind of be the theme of the show tonight We've got a lot of information about expanding police powers Now here's just a little glimpse into your future. So if you sit and you do nothing or worse, you advocate a universal Big Brother police state system

20:58 What we'd like you to do is say no and go to your local authorities and have them say no to federal extortion and bribery which is basically what it is when they're dangling all kinds of money in front of your local officials. Take the money, absorb and help us expand the police state They really can't say no because not only did they not get that money but they get cut off from other funding that they might have received from the federal government So that's what we're asking you to do when we're talking about this stuff is to think about, you know What your endorsing even by doing absolutely nothing what you might be endorsed and remember that No generation has faced the problem that we've faced today

21:43 Think back. Did your father, did your grandmother, did your grandmother's father and her father and their grandmother ever have to deal with a total control grid? Whether it is right or wrong let us just say hypothetically that all of the people in power right now locally on the state level on the federal level I guess on the global level Let us just say hypothetically all them are really good people good Christians or good people who just mean the best and I'm sure many of them believe that's true. That is how they sleep at night, but let us just say that hypothetically How do we know by setting up this universal electronic control grid? How do we know that a Hitler

22:35 won't come into power. And that's the buzzword people like to use, so I'll use it to communicate with you! How do we know that an evil entity wouldn't come into power 20 years from now? 30 years from now? 40-50 years from now? 100 years from now and use this control grid which which includes not only electronic but biochemistry and DNA analysis and DNA manipulation. We've read stories on our program how the federal government and the scientists have been able to manipulate the fear gene literally in your head, to alleviate any fear if you're fighting in a war or to cause fear

23:19 I remember that a people that fear their government get tyranny and a government that fears their people get liberty. But just again, hypothetically... So we don't know even if you're out there right now and you're saying well all of the powers-that-be they love me! And they are just doing this because they love me so much That they just want to protect me. So i'm going let them do it all We just don't know down the road, do we? Who is going to take control of these macinations. Who's gonna take control of all this control infrastructure and I like to say on my program when they say it's for your security it's for control. I'd like you try this little game with me at home You out there Try it at home Every time you hear the word security Like your social security number or homeland securit

24:13 Anytime you hear the word security put in the word control and I think you're going to understand exactly what we are approaching. So again this has never happened in any generation of human history They have never had the ability to process information with Carnivore or Echelon, the older programs and the newer data mining programs that can listen to everything you say. Read every email that you write, process it and dump into giant supercomputers looking for buzzwords and looking for keywords. We'll say them now for you terrorist, president bomb kill. We just made it in to the program and alerted the program that we could be terrorists so think of the technology that we have now both a great gift and also a great curse. We need to monitor that

25:11 both locally and nationally. We need to have our citizens sitting, and paying attention, and being inclusive in the process whether it is how DARPA gets their money to build these programs such as Mind Machine Interface or Voice-to-Skull Technology And we need to have a panel of citizens who are safeguarding the rest of the citizens from any kind of abuse of this technology. They often trite phrases that technology is a double-edged sword Well, I would tend to disagree with that because if you know why and how DARPA or any of the various universities that are funded by the Defense Department or by the intelligence agencies for the New World Order in general. If you know what their target is? Their target is to hit something it's not to explore all the possibilities It is to hit something directly So how do we watch all the citizens all the time

26:13 That doesn't seem like a neutral technology to me. It seems like if you want to keep getting your funding and you don't want to lose your job, You're going to damn well deliver the goods and figure out how to watch all the people all of time On our website jackblood.com I believe we have this story here in England With every telephone call swipe of a card click of a mouse information is being recorded and compiled And stored about Britain's citizens An investigation by the Sunday Telegraph has now uncovered just how much personal data is being collected about individuals and by the government, law enforcement agencies and private companies each and every day. In one week the average citizen living in Britain...and remember this is all now being integrated here in United States Every person every average person living in Britain has 3254 pieces of personal information stored about him or her

27:09 Most of which is kept in databases for years and sometimes indefinitely. The data includes details about shopping habits, mobile phone use emails locations during the day journeys and internet searches In many cases this information is kept by companies such as banks and shops but in certain circumstances they can be asked to hand it over to a range of legal authorities We're seeing this now with the telecom companies exact same thing happening And the story goes on to tell how people in Britain are literally recorded 3,000 times a week. Now we've done some of the studies here in the United States of America just to give you a clue 30 million security cameras alone and that doesn't count you on your cell phone uploading what you're doing your debauchery onto MySpace self-incrimination most likely and pretty nifty technology all around

28:03 And does that include all the private cameras? That might not be included. 30 million security cameras alone in the United States of America, you can do the math...that's one camera I believe for every What is the hundred of us or something? Now I've done that math, I'll have to do it again. And it gets worse from there! From mobile phones to the internet to loyalty cards. Remember when they used to try and get you those in a supermarket? You couldn't get discounts unless you signed a loyalty card. I may be mistaken but I don't see those anymore. Somehow the citizenry rejected that

28:41 You're banking, all of your banking information. Close circuit TV cameras recording license plates and the model now in the United States of America becomes Chicago Los Angeles certainly New York which is breaking new ground every day under Michael Doomberg This is our future. A license plate recognition, public transport face recognition registered travel programs at the airport they literally have now airport kiosks that they've been trying out in Halifax Canada and around the country where you get to go take a lie detector test to see if you're not a terrorist before you get on the plane it's guilty before being proven innocent

29:24 Now, we're halfway through the program today and I do want to have at least a few minutes to take calls on the show and see. Number one, I'd like to know if you're for this new program by Rick Perry, The Blue Alert System which when a police officer is allegedly shot at—and I suppose that can even be made up if they need to get to somebody—they that they can come in and begin entering your house and asking questions, demanding answers putting people in jail immediately. Again very similar to the Amber Alert which by the way Ron Paul voted against it is unconstitutional and it's a boondoggle to fun but this would be a good time to bring in our guest tonight Sheila Dean

30:04 Sheila has been working and she's one of the people in Texas who have been working to protect you against the national ID card. We want to talk to you about why we need a new ID card now, a lot of times this is built on you know, problem reaction solution. The Hegelian dialectic as we've called it they create the problem they stem a reaction along with their controlled media and then the very people that presented the problems such as illegal aliens coming over the border taking your jobs and taxing welfare and putting the country into debt are the very people that create the problem offer the solution of one of those solutions to immigration

30:45 And you look back and you wonder just, how do we fall for this? Because were part of it. We create the reaction. The reaction just stems up from everywhere about illegal immigration and there has to be a solution! People are demanding solutions many of you I mean on this program i know that the producers in the host have talked quite a bit about immigration so here we have the solution. We all need an internal task force a biometric ID card where our biometric information, all of our information and sometimes we don't even know how much. In fact it's probably inconceivable to us exactly how much information could be contained on one of these little chips or cards to be carried with you everywhere you go. To be used if you want to fly an airplane, if you want to get a credit card, if you wanna do business, if you wanna walk across the street

31:42 If they get their way, that being the federal government you will have to hand that over on demand. They'll run it into a computer and link itself to a giant supercomputer and it will be able to know what you did 10-15 years ago You remember when you were a kid your teacher might have said Johnny this will go on your permanent record! They weren't kidding but now they finally have technology to do that and use against you Now, I really believe folks and we're going to bring Sheila in here. Sheila scoot over here if you would. I think we're gonna get you in the frame One of us need to move over or they got the camera? Thank You Sheilah for joining us on Frontline Texas. I've been just amazed by the work that you've been doing and you are really just full of energy and full of passion To get this information out to people

32:34 I don't look at you and say, you are biased. You just don't like all this stuff and so therefore you've set your mind to stopping it. What you're trying to do is get the proper information about this super system into the hands of the public so that they can make the educated decision to know how much it's going to cost them, what they're gonna have to give up in their daily lives. Why don't you tell people the viewers here tonight where you came from and how you got into this and what is the 511 campaign? The 511 campaign is basically a moniker that I kind of ascribed to May 11th, 2008 and 2005 when the bill was passed. And the idea behind 511 is to kind of acquaint it with 9-11 because its another disaster and I think people should look at that magnitude. The reason why is because its intruded into our lives

33:37 on a very personal level. This is my passport and in March of 2005 I just had an intuitive call, and I decided to go get my passport. This passport has the biometric technology but it does not have the radio frequency ID chip Now i don't expect everybody to possess the same level of sheer you know, extrasensory perception about IDs and that sort of thing. But I just had a premonition of sorts based on some of the information that we get through trickle-down theory from news and lack of news and that sort of thing. There's more than can be gained sometimes from what you're not hearing. And so I encourage people to always question what they're seeing and not seeing

34:33 Yeah, I hope that as we move forward through the generations to have these technological advancements apply to our everyday life that we begin to question these things. Again this isn't something that our parents or grandparents had to deal with When we're talking about the, you held up your passport there and that's one of the ways they are doing it internationally. Of course this is being enforced I have a story right here from the London Telegraph I believe Fake E-passport is cloned in minutes You can see this on my website at Jackblood.com Basically what they say this security apparatus that is now, since 9-11 of course everything changed. This is what we hear. This has been applied in every country and especially if you're doing any kind of border crossing or international travel as they might call it and they took a passport that does have a chip in it Now will talk about what's on that ship but there are just about everything about you again on the chip And they were able to clone it and use it and falsify within minutes so why is so secure

35:37 That's the first question is what is so secure about the biometric identification? I think it makes the people who are going to own this information more secure. That's the only person who is going to be secure. So there is an illusion of security? And that what makes people feel safer, they are under the illusion that their identification is more secure? I think... Come on! Alright alright yeah. Pull it out of me Jack. You know what, I have a saying and there is a saying out there The situation with the chronically socially insecure, and I'm sure you have all met people like that is that there's no amount of control in a situation when relating or to dealing with them that is ever comfortable for them. They have to be in control on top of things at

36:28 all times, they're completely neurotic. Even though none of that's true or none of that is a reality they have to at least convince themselves that they are in control and safe And then they have to convince the people that their trying to dominate with there ridiculously overbearing behavior That...that's how it should be How many people feel safe in their home because they lock their door but if they don't have firearms or they don't have a way to really protect themselves, they're basically sitting ducks. Now I don't want to worry people out there but the fact of the matter is and we've said this for years all security is an illusion which makes this even harder to swallow-the Real ID Act

37:08 So we've established this security is an illusion and even technologically it's an illusion because Because these can all be hacked. Yes, we see the caller Steve Thank you So let's now that we've established that fact Let's also talk common sense here to the great people of Texas or wherever they're watching tonight How much does this cost and how safe is it really? Now another, when we're talking about the illusion of safety another thing in a lot of the state representatives and governors around the country. Governor Switzer in Montana has taken a big stand against us where we broadcast with our program. Nice

37:44 that you can access my personal information now that it's been fed into this giant supercomputer and I've got my biometric passport. Thank you very much, yes sir, yes officer here is is run through your computer but this can be accessed through terminals not just everywhere in the country but all around the world and we saw with Choice Point who helped steal the election in Florida 2000 I don't mind saying according to Greg Pallas BBC reporter ChoicePoint lost all of their information. Somebody hacked into their computer, it wasn't that hard to do and all of the personal information that you trusted ChoicePoint, the government contracted ChoicePoint together on Americans got out to a hacker so we know that how much does it cost? We've got numbers on this how much is it cost just for Texas to adopt the Real ID system well at the wide paintbrush

38:34 pretty much been ascribed to most states as a starting bill of $3.9 billion, and that's kind of a staggered amount over time. And see the problem with Real ID and the Real I.D Act is that there is an expansion of powers that has been granted to the Secretary of DHS who was appointed not elected And it's very important to remember because, you know and I might want to add. You mentioned the Stasi earlier as I add to my knowledge about the Real ID that one of the consultants that was hired right around the time the legislation for Real ID was passed in the spring 2005 was that Marcus Wolf

39:22 Former head of the Stasi, German police. Was appointed as a consultant to America's Department of Homeland Security and I'm thinking that guy really should have just retired. Why retire when you can get tens of millions of dollars to advise the Americans how to turn America into East Germany? But again, this is kind of one of the peripheral issues. So we've talked about the fact that they're not secure. Real ID biometric IDs folks it's a proven fact they are not secure. They cost more money than your state can pay for now the federal government will pitch in I guess their going to pay about half is that pretty good estimate? No and you know there gonna pay for the paper. Seed money basically what you'll get

40:11 Something, right? Okay. 3.9 million... They are blackmailing the state so we assume that we're getting some kind of token payment from the federal government. They have to apply and they have to apply with FEMA and the grants are handled by FEMA And the grant that was extended to Texas was $3.2 million, and that's nothing to get this kind of database going that they need and to secure their driver licenses? They had a plan to secure the drivers licenses. See this is what the problem is with extra government okay there's always gonna be some guy you know with pinkie in the brain it has to you know at you know get more power

40:52 And that's the trouble. The problem is they want us to pay for it, Jack! And the thing is we don't need it! It's that simple! They're justifying their jobs by creating fears within the public certainly. Immigration was one of those. Then again not to say there isn't a problem with immigration... I wanna debate the solution I mean, we take global warming for an example. We talk about that on my program quite a bit before we start implementing all of the fascist dictates of global warming you know chips speaking of chips again and this is what Mayor Will Wynn said here in Austin Texas i think it was about eight or nine months ago they're going to put chips

41:30 in all of the thermostats in Austin, Texas and they'll control your thermostat for you. I mean before we start going to these extraordinary lengths and even we get into eugenics and Malthusian solutions here let's have a debate! So that is what we want to do here tonight What happened? Real ID was scheduled first for 2005 and then in May 2008 it was supposed to be fully implemented in all the states It hasn't even come close Why is it taking so long for them to do this to us? They can't have their cake and eat it too, Jack. They can't pay the tech companies to make it happen because they want us to pay for it and the trouble is that they need our money to dominate us And its just not happening because of the economy What money would be the question Yeah! With what money?! So you know...they've got to basically barter against Maybe they could go beg the money from China To get this done but I don't think thats going to happen

42:26 You know, we have a problem with our economy right now which was kind of conveniently engineered so they can try to get us on this Amero program. And the thing is that it's just not working out very well and this is the problem when you get too much government and too many cooks in the kitchen It spoils everything There's just too much government right now! And its a troublesome shame because we've got Republicans at the helm That supposed to be smaller government but what has happened It's become the war party, man. It's become this let's feed the endless maw of the Department of Defense because we're convinced that we have to be the strongest arms in the world. We have a lot of hubris trying to sell us more big government programs meanwhile the economy is crashing around us every day. I mean that takes a lot of balls and we can say it on cable TV right?

43:17 That's really in our face. Not to mention that what they're trying to sell us is a lemon! Even if you believe that we should all carry internal biometric passports, they don't even work!! No they don't and you know what? They've had some terrible problems trying to implement this stuff. Okay let's just take North Carolina which actually has one of the strongest opposing...they've got two groups that are like super strength 511 for what their doing but they have the North American Union logo embedded in their license and they've been trying to implement RealID. And it's just been, it's been crashing hogwash! I mean technology is not gelling and you know its monkeys trying to push cables together... It's not working!! So every time, exactly as you said

44:09 People that are in the IT industry live for this stuff. It's not because they're incompetent like they always say, it's not because they're incompetent or they don't have money... I mean we're making this case so people understand exactly what we're dealing with. It's because its impossible to create this! Even 200 years from now there will always be a hacker who is one step ahead of them who is going game for game and can break into the system It's not the whole concept itself is idiotic. Do you read did you read Wired magazine? I do, I read the Wired online quite a bit like I love Ryan Singles threat level and threat level among other blogs has published uh... i think they had these subway

44:55 hackers, they had a forum on how to hack into such a DHS database basically. And they could wipe out or manipulate the information so that you could become a Mexican immigrant And so... And who wouldn't want to be. Right, yeah but you could be walking down and slide your real ID into the system and all of a sudden you're Maria Gonzalez and now you can now be picked up for not being an American citizen And the thing is that, that is the kind of trash we will run into with Real ID. People who are bonafide US citizens magically losing their citizenship and magically loosing their rights because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time when some fool hacker jumped in and decided to screw up the soup

45:48 So, I could be deported to Poland or Mexico if i don't have my real ID. And hey! You know? I don't look like I live here and I've done a pretty good job imitating the lingo... My surfer cross with New England Texas accent you know? I had to learn that but I'm gonna fool ya so that I get deported somewhere. Let's take a few calls and then break this down for people and tell them where they can go, how they can get involved. We make it sound ... I don't want to do this ... I don't want to make it sound like oh well this will just defeat itself ... It's so obvious... it's so common sense that you know it's not going to work and therefore never get done because that's not even close to the truth. They're gonna do what anyway like a lot of things they've done that you know by taking off your shoes at the airport

46:35 that seem to make no sense but yet uh... they get them through and they do on uh... let's go ahead and take the calls there is a number right here folks there you got four seven seven twenty two eighty eight i'm jack blood sitting in for richard reese frontline texas let's go to line too i think they've been holding along this will give it a shot blind to welcome to front line taxes thanks for joining us we get him areas Welcome to the show. Do you have any input into this global electronic police state that seems to be wrong-headed from the very start? Of course I do! First of all,

47:24 I do not trust any form of government, whether they be the local constabulary, the governor of this wonderful state who's turned it into a police state, the president of United States or any of that ilk. I respect none of them. I'm afraid of them but I do not respect them." Second of all, I would like to say you briefly mentioned... Well this is about trust so obviously... I don't trust any of them. It goes without saying that you don't trust them yet Also going back to what you mentioned a while ago about Montana from what i understand about Montana the information that I've been getting lately Montana is full of a bunch of sanctimonious condescending constipated assholes like Dick Cheney

48:13 Well, that's not true. I actually have an affiliate in Montana and Kalispell and there are a lot of really hardcore Liberty lovers there In fact, I think Ron Paul might have done as good there as he did anywhere else so well Yeah, I was a Ron Paul supporter even though you know Wyoming is where Dick Cheney's from no why dick cheney is from Texas dick cheney moved to wyoming So that he could become the vice president of the United States That's here and there. I mean, this is kind of a line in the sand for people. You know? My line in the sand is that I'm not taking implantable microchip which Wisconsin literally had to ban because the companies and corporations were forcing citizens to take these microchips. And you can imagine how messed up things are when you have to put out law saying it's now illegal to force our citizens to take microchips but that's a line in the sand. Is this your line in the sand or what are you willing to give up

49:11 to not have a real ID card. Are you willing to give up the shopping, traveling, renting cars and hotels and your whole lifestyle in order to put your foot down and say no? You might as well include driver's license in there too. No, I'm not. The thing that I am afraid of is if i get in a car wreck and end up in the hospital or emergency room they could just sneak one in while you are there or in jail or anywhere else There's a police agency for almost every person in Texas and they're getting to the point where they really enjoy what they do. Is that the question though Sheila here? Are you willing to go ahead and give up all of the things, for instance if you don't have a credit card how many things can you not do if

50:05 credit card today and that's been a line in the sand for me for a long time. And we've adjusted to it, but isn't that the question? Are you willing to just say no to this even if they try to beat you over the head with it are you willing to give some things up to make that statement to put that line in the sand thanks for the call appreciate it Should we answer that? Well, I mean that's why I'm asking. Is that the question because it can get to that point and will get to that point if we can't stop this in a legislative... If we can't win this through you know the regular governmental process through the legislature for the media whatever and it does come and visit us

50:52 I mean, that's the question I would like the audience to answer. Are they willing to give up certain privileges or I guess I should call them rights – they used to be rights – to not take this Real ID card? I think they should stem it off of the past. I don't even want to answer that question. That is the trouble in that you are the answer The American people are always the answer. It's got to come from you, they've got to take the money from you, they've gotta get the legislation from you and it takes citizen government workers to make it happen and everybody gets one! These top ranking people? They're gonna get one?!

51:30 Straight on down the line. Ron Paul's gonna get one, Nancy Pelosi is gonna get one, George Bush is gonna get one... Everybody's going to get one of these! Jack Blunt isn't getting one. Well you know they want you to have one and the thing is that I don't want one and the reason why I'm involved with 511 is because I actually started having nightmares and couldn't sleep at night because I don't want this and i don't want it for anybody. I wouldn't want this on my worst enemy If people, we're going to get into this as much as we have time for People go to 511campaign.org there are a number of things that you can do to get involved in this I'm never as optimistic about how some of our guests

52:07 beat everything and stop everything. But I do think we're taking a good first step tonight, having the appropriate debate and getting the information out. Let's go to line one Steve here it is line one thanks for joining us on Frontline Texas what do you think about all this? I agree with 100% there Jack just two quick comments I sent an email for you today and I was in and out so much that didn't find why should The other one was I had to send one of the Good Morning America's up because I made a mistake of turning on TV this morning and they were showing that kid from San Marcos, his dog died. And you know I'm like hey why don't you report the naked guy getting shot in the back? You know in Round Rock!

52:49 good grief. And that CFR member, Diane Sawyer needs to go and that's all comments I've got. Thanks Jack. Both of the presidential candidates are high ranking council on foreign relations members and everybody says it is a conspiracy for some reason Sheila none of the candidates who get in for the last thirty or forty years aren't member of one of these societies, or counts on foreign relations. Or we have a trilateral commission president with Barry Obama. But anybody in America can be President just keep believing that and also keep believing that the chip planted in your brain is probably going to good for you. Line 3 thank-you for joining us here on Frontline Texas

53:32 Hey Jack, I'd just like to tell you thank you for everything you do. Listening to GCN every day at least a try. Thank You Man this is a real idea it's big issue i mean we've got It's obvious when you look at the Constitution, so absolute violation of Fourth Amendment rights and how American people don't understand that is amazing to me. I'm quite young, 22 years old, I was raised in this broken education system and it is still apparent to me that this is wrong. And if you can't feel it in your gut then you're not awake, you're sleepwalking Yeah. What about you? I mean, we asked the question if they pass this and they make this mandatory for you to fly, for you to get food! To eat! How far are you willing to go to say no to having a biometric passport which is one step away from the implantable microchip? How far are you willing to go to say no to this?

54:26 Well, I'll go as far as I can Jack. I mean...I've got to do the best anybody can with what they have. I've got family in the country and I'd go out there before I took that card. Why don't you get involved with 511? Absolutely! That's a great idea. That's a much better solution than trying to head it off at the Pats. What we've got on our side is we have a lot of friendly legislators who don't want one of these and also that as soon as this gets daylight, people hate this. It's not the most popular piece of legislation and I've said this before that whoever authored this did a real

55:06 crappy job. They invented a piece of legislation that wasn't going to go unless they snuck it in. Well, it was huge two or three years ago when they first announced they were going to do this Sheila. It looked like a sure bet and they really seemed to have their ducks in a row but since then the web has kind of unraveled and to sell this on the basis of immigration which I kinda think was a big help to them in doing that into so-called terrorism to sell it on immigration means they would have to have the immigration debate again. And you noticed if you've been watching the news about the campaigns, they don't want to talk about that! They both want to stay away from that, both McCain and Obama because their views are very unpopular regarding regional government in

55:48 and so it is kind of falling apart but that doesn't mean now quickly we have just a few minutes left here update us on where we are now I know you guys had a meeting at Brave New Bookstore yesterday love those guys brave new bookstore dot com folks, brave new books here in Austin Texas. And you guys have the legislative approach but But where are we nationally? I know Chertoff was literally threatening states like Montana, threatening to cut them off. Threatening that their citizens wouldn't be able to get on airplanes and fly. The threats are flying from the federal government and Homeland Security so tell us where they are right now and where we are and how can kind of bridge the gap. Okay first fair warning with TSA. I want everybody to go get one of these

56:33 So, they don't have to rely on the real ID system. It may have an RFID, but you can take care of the RFID in a microwave if you don't want to deal with it. Okay? You've got two minutes! Okay and the second thing I would say is that back the legislation get involved in the legislative process we're going to introduce a bill with legislators who are going to support us with authoring it getting out there and getting it voted on and hopefully getting it onto to the legislative state forum. There's a national bill, several national bills that we need to get behind and citizens need to be apart of that. This isn't just riding your congressman this is joining with a gang of people around the country We got the snowball rolling downhill You're going join a winning team basically is what it looks like Well I mean you've got alot of people on your side This is great issue to get involved with because its real personal fast

57:32 511campaign.com, you can join them here this is Austin Texas ready to go national it's a great prototype beatthechip.org for more information of course my website and we'll talk about it on my program which airs three-to-five Monday through Friday on 90.1 FM among other stations here in Texas line one quick last call there ya go Say something quick, put something on the record brother. What I'd like to talk about first is the current programs on channel 16 and 1011 If you watch them all it's kind of hard not to notice something obvious although people can't not notice most obvious things in the world what i noticed myself

58:14 The fact that the only people talking about our impending doom, which is almost certain and a future of non-history and endless slavery is white people. If you look at the other side... Oh that's not exactly true. Let me finish what I'm saying here! Why let you finish? We've got five minutes, five seconds before we end this show. Okay. I said make a quick comment. We're not going to win this battle. Thanks for calling in folks thanks for joining us on Frontline Text. I'll be back next week