Chuck Norris Offers Legal Help To John Joe Gray Oct 18 19, 2000 Gray Credits Alex Jones [Mrw8bISp66A]

00:22 30 years these guys are locked at the hip. They're not that well I will say, I was going to say maybe locked at the lip. In fact we both tested for my fourth degree black belt he tested for his first degree black belt in 1970 Detroit and that's where i met him young teenage boy and i talked to him then joined the Marines and when you get out come California they did it and he's been with me ever since Howard's real good. He was the world kickboxing champion for a few years and never 6-12'd away from the world. Yeah, he had one more fight to fight Sugar Ray Leonard for the title. Got beat on the split decision and that boy is home down. It was kind of a... I've never seen anybody kick like him because he can't run up against me

01:22 But when you watch some of his videos and stuff on me, he goes, my leg is way up there. Even pushing 50 you're still doing it! Are you older than me or are you a little younger? I'm a little older. He's an old girl! I'll be 49 in a couple months. Well, I don't even want to hear about it... I'm going to be 61 here soon so I don't even want to hear about it from you guys. March 1st. Mine is March 10th. Is there any March 10th? You know the only way we're gonna combat this Joe is publicly

02:03 and do it, you know. Because that's the power I have in the press and I can say, you know, I said, You've got to end this deal. And I said, I'm personally taking responsibility for Joe Gray and anything happens to him. I said, The world will come to an end because I will definitely make sure we get rid of the bill because, yeah, because uh... I know every politician in Texas Let me state this though before I make a statement It's been Melissa They have made statements, been on the air. And anything happened to his family and his children? They won't be placed out from uniformed. They won't get judged or anybody will be safe. We're making a safe time. I'm not making threats. No but understand that this is happening unless you did it. Get yourself in that same boat. No no i'm not going to make threats saying that I am going to create violence because I want to create violence But I will make it a public thing national news

02:58 I'm not going to make any threats, but... I wouldn't do that anyway. But i will say that I am going to use all the power I have And I have a lot of power. Because, you know, I know everybody...I know George W., I can go straight to George W Bush and campaign for him so I can go straight to him if i have too and Rick Perry, Lieutenant Governor's very good friend of mine and Jim Francis the Commissioner on DPS is a good friend So, I mean, I can make sure that you get a fair shake. I mean, I could guarantee it to ya Joe that you will get a fair shake here That nothing is going to happen

03:36 And if you want me there, I'll be there. Tell them 56 out of Tyler, they put a good report on it. It doesn't help that whole lot. Alex said we're done. This is Walker. I know it doesn't look like him. Okay, I'll tell you what we're going to do... You guys like almond joy? Ready? Now you got to take a bite Is it good? Get the rest of it. Isn't that yummy? A little bit more, who wants it? Me!

04:40 That's what it is all about. Thanking them for letting us? Yeah, you bet! But believe me we'll take care of it. We'll take care of it We'll get this all remedied and these attorneys will take care of the justice part of this. And- It is definitely fixable, I said that the first time out here and I'm so sincere. Yeah. I'm not smart enough to lie about it. Can we land out here on a helicopter? Can we land out there? I don't see why you couldn't right now. You can land right there in the parking lot. Oh sure! Because I've got to... because I have to get back to work tomorrow. Thank you Chuck for coming out here. You bet, I appreciate it. We'll get this all resolved and taken care of. We won't let these folks go back to their lives. This has gone on way too long. Thanks for taking the time. Well thanks for contacting John and John contacted me otherwise... It would have happened! Well y'all don't have to be quiet for this.

05:36 This got audio. Who's got the still camera? We've got one picture left. Bye bye. Thank you. Thanks for coming out! Look at the video and see what happens. Go look at the video, it comes back next day.

06:24 They said not to let you out. I said, well who's they? He says the FBI, Texas Rangers and DPS. And so for what reason, what charge have you been seen at too many militia meetings? I say since when is it against the law to go to a militia meeting? He says I advertise with paper down here we're having meetings. You know want the public come out and see what going on? Thought he was doing that secretly or anything like that trying to create any problems there. Well thank being in the public eye It is the equalizer. Yeah, well with Alex at first that's what really helped out. Alex and this little lakeside newspaper down here too, with Gavin and Jug and Mallory that's what helped us out. They put a good...and channel 56 out of Tyler put a good report on us too and that helped out even though 2020 didn't give a good report on us

07:13 Somebody had a survey on that and said 6% of the people said we was right. And 30%, 35% of them say the officer was right, and 5% were undecided. So it's good. It comes to town, you gotta start standing up against this tyranny and all this stuff. When you say you won't go into court system does that include that you would not agree to jury trial on one charge? I'm getting out there. I mean, they're just want to make sure I have your interpretation. There we are. You got it right? I think you...I can understand and envision you saying i'm not ready to plead guilty. I'm not ready to go just dive into some probation or some restrictive time period where they're just going to dominate my life. Okay if you understand the UCC code

08:01 and uh the civil war the 14th minute fast you know where i'm coming from I know exactly where he comes from that's what i'm getting at. I represented a guy on a month-long jury trial in federal court in Dallas that got heavily involved in the UTC and failure to properly, for the state of Texas to properly be inducted into the union and the fact that United States is not on gold standard anymore. But I just want to make sure when we undertake to try act on your behalf that I know when you say I won't submit court systems that end all be all, I'll never- Can get a common law court?

08:50 You don't work in that system. You're entitled to the bar. Right, you're right. To me, I don't know if y'all are masons or what but they control everything and a 33 degree mason for him be a 33 degree mason which is mainly your judges they gotta sacrifice their human life at least one year to keep their status People think I'm crazy. Ed, you've got proof of this too. You can show me why I can't. When I first started the militia a guy come to me he said I could show you these caves and I want y'all to raid them because they do have people down there cycling. I wasn't believing it but over the years as reporter has told me these things

09:38 and stuff. I got to believe him. It sounded too far-fetched, but I believed it. What if we got Dallas? Would you get a judge that's not a Mason? A judge that is totally unbiased? And I think you've got a different situation here Joe particularly Chuck involved the whole world would be watching what happens from this point on. Believe me they're not going to play any games They cannot play games. And part of it is you just hit the nail on the head when you said that we're licensed by the bar and that's a system we work in, but other than that system without trying to do something better... I mean may get to point where you say That's not me, I don't want to do that But that's the only system We have now there are other systems out there and there's other movements and I understand that but that's not gonna

10:44 keep these people off your back right now. See I'm not fully out of the system, i still got my birth certificate and I still... Where were you born here? I was born in Dallas uh March 2nd 49. You know the thing is Joe if we took it to court in Dallas the publicity would be there which would help your friend that's incarcerated right now see because because now the media would be there and now we could tell our story we can't tell a story here because they're isolated but if you did come to Dallas Under their representation, we can get the story out. And believe me they're going to be very reluctant because there's a lot of power here. Dennis has his own company he is the head of his own company There is a lot of power especially in Dallas

11:29 Especially in Dallas, we have a lot of power in Dallas and they're going to be walking on eggshells to make sure that they do exactly what is right. And then that gives us the chance to open up this whole can of worms here at what's going on down in this county. If it's either Chuck or I had to submit myself to some authority and making a stand not just for myself but for of the people of this country. See, the UCC, a lot of people don't realize that we give our freedom away to them That's when they come in When you talk about the Constitution and Court Judge Lafax They don't understand why 1933 Roosevelt The New Deal That's when we started getting license Private license Fishing and hunting license But they don't realize that it was a communism deal And you know yourself Attorneys weren't allowed here until after the Civil War

12:28 There's consent of the enemy to the people. The misdemeanor charges that, that the daughters are facing those are I mean we handle those uh that doesn't even concern me but the felony charge that you're facing concerns because that's what has these people coming out here trying to get on your land trying to get to you trying to get you out of here and if you're open to a fundamental trial of 12 people deciding your fate just the basic idea then there's somewhere we can start talking about because that's where the system I can work in meshes with something that may be acceptable to you but if that is off limits then we need to talk differently some way. That has put me back into universal commercial code

13:20 Well Joe, I think we need to make the system work for you. Not against you and that's what these guys can do. If there is something y'all think he can do try it! I know he can. You got some of the best attorneys in Texas right here plus they are Christians And that's why I called him. Well, if we talked the judge said look you know this is a volatile situation judge no so what why wouldn't it behoove you to let this trial go to Dallas and uh and so that way we can alleviate a potential problem here? That would be in your best interest it'd be the best interest of everyone concerned

13:59 Chuck, we had a strong argument there. We may not get there... What I think we can do is... Well, then we'll have Lieutenant Governor Perry give him a call And we'll have all the eyes. Then I'll have George W. give him a call Absolutely. You know people? We will work this system as hard as we possibly can to write these things And I'll be right there with you, Joe. I guarantee it. See that's an element we don't get in every case As a matter of fact we don't get in any cases someone that has the status to attract attention and celebrity and just bring the public view onto situations like this It is not something many people in your situation can benefit from. And I guarantee FBI will back off too because I already talked to Mike White this morning Mark White who was head of the FBI

14:50 And he said, you know if you're in this I'll back off. He said I'll do whatever it takes to eliminate this problem.