Alex Jones & Mike Hanson Reminisce On Bohemian Grove Infiltration & Other Topics 7⧸17⧸2013 [H15NwxrM2fg]

00:02 Okay, Mike. Hey folks we're gonna get to your calls I know that you Whistle and Mike and Robert, constitutional terrorists. And Terry and others are patiently holding on this Wednesday edition but I'm always talking about Mike Hanson and the fellow he's got that is Mike Hanson archives it's mainly a lot of new news stuff. Mike has got all the really good tapes like me protesting the Klan and the cops pointing guns at us when we're protesting them The snipers and just unbelievable stuff So Mike for one reason you're here You're saying send my crew down there fine i'll send my crew down there

00:38 to get the really good stuff and get it on there. I appreciate you guys doing it, and I was offering to pay your guy to do it he says he does volunteer but how do we get all that epic stuff nobody's seen on TV? Alex is not like we hadn't been doing anything You know we've put with Mike Hanson archives of YouTube It's all about Alex Jones No! I don't care about that I just want the old stuff because I haven't seen it We do have Here's an example my dad at my dads house He goes I found 8 millimeter footage of your grandfather bird hunting I've never seen film footage of my grandfather. He died when i was six years old, my dad's dad and I said we'll go find it let me see he goes oh I don't know where it is. I was like why did you just tell me about that? No it's not at all...I have all the gold people don't even care 18 years of gold well you know when it's about about seven eight years yeah no 18 years ago I saw you

01:27 I said, that guy's going to be a star. The first time I saw you, I said that guy is gonna be... I don't want to be a star. That was 18 years ago and your You're way beyond anything I thought you could. And, I tell you...I have to tell you about that Pierce Morgan. I was down at the beach with some investors of mine good friends and we watched that interview and uh..that was the best job you've ever done. Well Mike, you've done a great job! You been a star for Liberty That was great! Well thank ya Mike. Mike i wanna get into your book that we sell A Bohemian Grove Called Conspiracy I mean this is very well written thick book if you really want understand it with a lot of top researchers contributed to it

02:08 Very, very important. That's not why Mike is here today but I tell you Mike there is just so much we it's a side issue. I just saw your archive guy and was like man because you know what? I did I ended up just throwing away when I moved like 13 years ago all my original stuff Was like I don't want all this. Um you know, I cover stuff better now and just trash it all Where they were taking old people's property And we're all that kind of stuff was going on We have got to put all those old reports out because it's a great example of have done a great job about me Hanson I got here to talk about what you're up to well You remember when you did this product? How's your wife doing Oh, how is your wife doing? She's good doing great I've been I've been married almost 30 years now. What about you yeah

02:51 Yeah, it's about 12. Your kids are all grown? My kids are all grown up. I have a five-year old grandson Justin has a five-year old. That's amazing, how is Crystal? And Crystal got married last month. No but see what it is Mike used to for those that don't know Mike used to live in Austin so I saw him all the time we go out to eat now you moved to Gonzales. My office used to be in your dining room and now you've got this big warehouse! That's how little it used to be even before your wife was...you were married Absolutely Yeah I mean we were working together 18 years ago and it's just amazing you know, to look at this big warehouse. But then I'm so proud of y'all but then you moved to Gonzales to manage a bunch of family property in 2001 uh A month after 9-1-1 and i remember where where i was on 9-1-1 because i called you Alex and you were in the shower I said something's going on I said there's some planes hitting Hitting uh And your wife Uh You know Said hey turn the tv off No she got me out of the shower yeah

02:08 Very, very important. That's not why Mike is here today but I tell you Mike there is just so much we it's a side issue. I just saw your archive guy and was like man because you know what? I did I ended up just throwing away when I moved like 13 years ago all my original stuff Was like I don't want all this. Um you know, I cover stuff better now and just trash it all Where they were taking old people's property And we're all that kind of stuff was going on We have got to put all those old reports out because it's a great example of have done a great job about me Hanson I got here to talk about what you're up to well You remember when you did this product? How's your wife doing Oh, how is your wife doing? She's good doing great I've been I've been married almost 30 years now. What about you yeah

02:51 Yeah, it's about 12. Your kids are all grown? My kids are all grown up. I have a five-year old grandson Justin has a five-year old. That's amazing, how is Crystal? And Crystal got married last month. No but see what it is Mike used to for those that don't know Mike used to live in Austin so I saw him all the time we go out to eat now you moved to Gonzales. My office used to be in your dining room and now you've got this big warehouse! That's how little it used to be even before your wife was...you were married Absolutely Yeah I mean we were working together 18 years ago and it's just amazing you know, to look at this big warehouse. But then I'm so proud of y'all but then you moved to Gonzales to manage a bunch of family property in 2001 uh A month after 9-1-1 and i remember where where i was on 9-1-1 because i called you Alex and you were in the shower I said something's going on I said there's some planes hitting Hitting uh And your wife Uh You know Said hey turn the tv off No she got me out of the shower yeah

03:51 Can say I was the one that told Alex Jones about 9-1-1. And remember the hate calls we got that day because a show from two months before re aired on Access? Yeah. Where I was saying they're gonna blow up the towers, they thought i was saying it that day That's right, and you predicted it three months before. Yeah by the way Esquire has been trying to get me to fact check that because we don't have any way to prove that but anyway too I don't know where the tape is a month out of nowhere The tape is gonna get all the gold Where is that July 25th show? You're gonna...I have it! You're gonna get all the gold if It's all sitting at Nate's house in air conditioning so its not being ruined

04:28 and uh... i don't care about all that is just some of the tidbits after nine one one my grandma died and then two years later my grandpa died. So I bought their estate in Gonzales, Texas so that started me having to be in Gonzales a lot more and not help you as much as I can but I did help you for 14 years! Yeah well you've done a great job Mike You know I tell ya Mike this is the house I live in now My grandpa... Here let me see it That came from our farm It's a hundred year old house and he cut it in half, took the roof off and moved it to town in 1959. Can you believe that? And we've been in business 60... I remember your grandpa Wolf! He was a character hold on we're gonna come back talk about Grandpa Wolf. I got pictures of him yeah there is he was okay good ol' guy and uh hold on we're gonna go break Mike we're gonna come back. There's Pawpaw Wolfe with his overalls

05:30 Hey Mike, enough about me. Look at this photo of you! And I guess that's probably about like 1996, 97. But yeah, I've known you since 1995 so look at Time the Avengers! Look at what me and Mike look like now! That's about what we looked when we snuck in Bohemian Grove Oh speaking of Bohemian Grove, look what I brought. Oh yeah? That's the shirt you wore in there. It is the shirt I wore. I'm gonna put this into Alex Jones Museum when ya'll make one. Oh give me a break Mike thats not going to happen You bought me some clothes to sneak in there as the billionaires. That's right, well no that was the idea of John Ronson he goes well you guys look like you know like you're wearing like sweatshirts and stuff you gotta dress preppy yeah so we went and that's right you got that at Eddie Bauer that's right And it's on uh Secret... You can go to Mike Hance Archives I have that secret rulers of the world on On the YouTube It's a good-I thought it was a great film

06:29 Absolutely and great YouTube channel. And I know you and Nate are busy, but if you'll put me like when I protest the Klan the guy said I'll kill you and then the cops had their rifles on us for no reason and then it turned out that the cops were with them remember? I was like why are you doing this? The cop's like oh I'll knock your head in we have all that incredible stuff. It's like God...I mean I can't even remember all this stuff! Well I do listen let's talk about what happened in Florida and then we're gonna get to your dad and the shi- well I want apologize for that Florida trip and the tower shooting What was that? Because I remember that. I woke up in a sweat the other night and remembered you had bought a $5,000 camera and the whole time we were in Florida didn't have the sound on. Sorry about that Alex! Oh no no no Mike but thank God we had the other guy with us who had the sound. Well I had the cheap camera but Mike you got most of it

07:20 Yeah, anyways sound. Anyways that shows how far we've come apologize for listen that was stakes I mean Brooksville was in 2000 tell people what that was like When we're being chased by the dune buggies. Yeah, yeah the dune buggies and then a guy jumps out there's light in the fire well The scary part about it is you know We get there somebody canceled our reservations to the rent car to the hotel room Then somebody broke in the hotel room This is this is what we had and then just so happened A guy drove in from Texas and met us there And then we're like, no we don't want your help. So then later and he jumps out of the bushes. Yeah. He was like a Navy seal. I mean it was just ridiculous when he was in the army before that it was the Navy showed up to Waco too when we rebuild Waco there's Alex when he got to know you're going to bring all this stuff. You told me you were gonna go over old time. What is that? Waco Tribune Herald yeah there

08:18 And by the way, I go to the memorials every year and this lady from Virginia she started a museum. She took an old black school in downtown Waco and remodeled it and made a Waco Museum in there but what she's missing is she's missing the rebuilding of the church so I plan on all this stuff that i have, all the pictures of the rebuilding. Plan on donating it next year." That's a good idea! "...where it will be and I think that you need to start a museum for..." You're the one who always starts this stuff. You're the one with Joe Campana we tried to fix his house and they bulldozed it so he built him a new house... ...and then was your- And then like well okay we'll help you fix your leaky roof here of your shack to have your memorial in next you had us build the Davidians a new church yeah here's Joe Campana the veteran and remember they sent provocateurs in trying to stop us doing that

09:13 And that was the city record without permits. 13 days building a new house, I mean from ground up Mike, enough. What do you think is the craziest thing we ever did? Remember when we went to San Antonio and the Delta Force had done that drill- I think sneaking into Bohemia Grove was the craziest thing we've ever done. Remember when they pulled a gun on you because you wouldn't turn the video over? You remember that? And then I screamed and hollered all time, I'm a veteran! You can't do this to me! Kicking and screaming but they never did take us to jail. That was at Fort Sam Houston wasn't it?

09:50 Was on the edge of it. Yeah, they came off the back because we were videotaping that they blew out all the windows. Yeah, Delta Force blue to go hospital or something and blew it up? Yeah yeah We did a lot of things It's a wonder I'm not both Were not in jail for the rest of our life for all this stuff that we we did a great job You know Steve Lane and Tennessee is teaching construction he's a professor And uh He's calling all the time and doing a great job A little bird told me he's gonna run for office. Oh, I've ran for office three times! Yeah you talked me into it about a week until i saw the rules. I think you could have won. I'm glad I didn't do this much business. You couldn't do this then and that's what we need to do. There'll be a state rep up there wearing all of us.

10:35 Let's talk about your dad. Now I know you're Grandpa Wolf, but I never had a chance to meet your dad. Where is the grandpa? Here is my grandpa wolf. He started a company in 1947 rental business and he died 2003 so my wife and I bought this estate and another couple, Jim and Joanna bought a bunch of other property down there. I tried to talk you into buying this property because let me tell you what's happened in the last three years now- Mike, I don't invest. I understand but real estate is very good investment because... I don't have time to mess with it! I spend more money than I bring in now. You know that? Pretty soon I'll be a pauper. Gonzales is where the first shot at Texas Independence War happened and that's where the come and take it flag comes from That's where my family lives We were very very poor

11:24 Area for 50 years, but in the last three years oil something happened. It's called the Eagle share shell formation what's your patient Gonzalez and We have a hundred new millionaires in Gonzales And we have 300 new millionaires into Witt County which is the county over from us so here's that Texas is now the biggest oil producer in the world it's a 30-year deal we are really booming and down in Gonzales now and I built a motel for the oil people and It's really doing really good here. You're a regular free-market terrorist That's right. Yeah, let's show the article here but won't when we bought this stuff it was nearly worthless that's right now you know We're booming. I mean it's a boomtown you wouldn't believe I mean just truck after you're like boss hog now No

12:16 They call me the slumlord of Gonzales, but that's not true. I have- No no no you went and got buildings that were falling out nobody wanted now. That's how it works. You build something and everybody is mad at ya. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars have went in to going... We've got code inspectors now. I still fight Alex. I'd fight the city council they're in love with each other they all vote the same way. Let me tell you this. They tried to outlaw a hermit now to have a horse in town. So I mean, I saw that the newspaper when you were fighting that you know i'm and we are changing san antonio. I love that group. I love the peaceful street project. I'm still in that group. I'm doing all I can to fight even though I have a business to run like you do absolutely You're doing a great job mike here let me see the rest of photos of grandpa wolf oh And that's my grandma she died too

13:27 to well folks you want to see the roots of things hey Mike how ridiculous is it without getting into names cuz I don't know what i'm talking about being just in general when they say I'm secretly funded by the government and I'm secretly Bill Hicks Alex, people don't know about Alex he's such a funny guy I'm Bill Hicks yeah no seriously what do you think when they say I'm like Mossad agent or Vatican but you saw me from nowhere that are they call me from I if i wanted to out alex, I could have done that. A long time ago. I got major newspapers major um was that magazine? That called me that what would you help me for you mean If you want it make something up if I wanted to make something up but I would never do that because

14:11 you come from a good family, I love your wife. Your mother and dad are great people there's no way that- But plus i'm good! That's right. Is there anything? You come from good stock Well you do too Mike but uh... But I did turn into a vampire at night People want me to go on Radio shows about about the Bohemian Grove in my book and I had one another day was a national show and all they could try to do was try To talk about him, you know Try to get me to say something bad about Alex Jones. I told that lady ain't gonna happen And I told her exactly the way it was, that you were a good guy. Well without defending from the lies you've seen them firsthand and they call me from these magazines trying to get me to say stuff. I just hanged up because they can take anything you say and chop it up. It's just not going to happen. Yeah but I sit around on the internet and there is not gonna be one word of me saying anything bad No but have you ever seen anything out there that was true? Is what I'm saying

15:12 No, I mean you make mistakes just like the rest of us here. You're a human being but that's what we want to see We want to see you making mistakes Here something else here here look at some of these old Texan photos here there's your grandpa and when did he die 2003 now here Go ahead though my grandma died in 2001 He died in 2003 he started the business in 2000. He had a farm believe it or not I could have bought all of cheap side for about $250,000. That's where this oil boom is going on just south of Gonzales now it's worth about 250 billion So, I mean this is the kind of opportunity that's going on down in Ghana.

16:10 listeners of yours that did invest in Gonzalez and bought some of my grandpa's property because I didn't buy the whole estate. I just bought a part of the state, and they bought some other houses in those houses went up a lot in value now And now we got oil people there that have nowhere to go. We've got hundreds of people coming into town and no where to rent. Again folks, he is the real Barney Fife in the flesh The good Barney Fife! We love that show don't we Mike? Yeah I do...I like all those shows Oh you're something else It's what it's like what we'd want America to be I'm going to get some other issues here and take some calls, but Mike let's talk about your dad. Here we got a photo of him back when the UT tower shooter was going on. We had SWAT teams yeah your dad saved a bunch people let's show this photo right here

16:58 of Mike's dad, the famous ambulance driver. That was in 1966 I'm not exactly what was it 16th or something? I don't know but you've got the paper with your dad and right there let me see that and i saw this at a state sale said cost me 30 bucks those papers but uh those are hard to get ahold of now you and there's one out Nate you got the other one out there that's the Austin American and then it's The Day Of Death And then your dad's in here. And then I've interviewed that guy, he's a Texas Ranger now or retired Texas Ranger the patrolman Romero Martinez yeah yeah he's been on the show nice guy

17:34 Look how young he was though. And he said if it wouldn't be for the citizens that kept with their rifle shooting at him, that they wouldn't have- Can you imagine if citizens and there was a shooter were shooting? The cops would probably shoot them nowadays. That's right I'm telling you what this country is screwed up Turned out this guy had a giant brain tumor the Marine He was just out of his mind Everyone loved him. I forget who wasn't my family here in Austin knew him too Mike, it's really fun having you here. I just wanted to get you on and talk about some of the... Getting back to Brooksville because that is what made me think to get you on the show and I've invited you up but you never seem to come to Austin anymore to take you out for dinner. Well because I'm

18:18 I'm in Gonzales now. You're boss hogs you go to Gonzalez, you don't leave God's country you don't leave and uh, you know if if some of your people out there I'm not talking about me in general If you just if you're looking for investment, you need to go to south texas because that's what the boom is going on And it's still ripe for people for picking down there in South Texas. There you go, Mr Businessman! Well it's that's what it's all about Can I come down there and be Roscoe Pico trained? Alex you're welcome anytime and when your wife and your kids come through I'll give you a free hotel room too Oh guess what?! I have the bed that Elvis slept in when he came to Gonzales And the bed that uh

19:03 The bed, I wish somebody would go out to my car and get the picture of it. Of the motel and when Bonnie & Clyde came through town, I have the bed that they slept in too at my motel And what's the name of the motel, Hanson? The Wolf Motel. It is named after my grandpa. Oh it's the wolf's lair! He built them as apartments and then I built another building as the main part...it's like a country motel and its themed as you know coming to town. Alright now let's get back to the New World Order Boy, they sure tried to keep us from getting the word out. But now imagine where the Liberty Movement started decades ago but imagine where it is now? People don't laugh at you anymore when you talk about The New World Order do they? I know that we're listening in your phone calls because this is a type of stuff they'd do. They would cancel our reservations to our rent car. We get there and there's be no rent car for us. When they cancel the reservation hotel, there'll be no hotel reservations

20:05 That'd be kind of the one we'd fly over there. And by the way, I have not flown since 9-1-1 and i won't so uh that's one thing...I drive everywhere! Are you going to visit anybody else while you're here in Austin today? No, I'm going straight back go right back to business You're a piece of work man Well maybe my mother you know that's that's it that's kind of stuff you know she paid $23 000 for her house and Travis Heights 1972 And they knock on her door every day trying to buy it for 700,000. That's what the real estate market is doing here in Gonzales I mean in Austin you know she lives in Travis Heights Mike you're like a machine now

20:47 All you talk about is like money, money, money. You're like Tony Montana! It's just fun it's just you know... Oh is it fun to be successful? Let me tell you how to beat the new world order I'll tell y'all how to become successful Be successful and live a good life Texas Lil told me that Do you remember Texas Lil No thats an old French saying The best revenge living well Yeah I agree And we have a travel trailer We travel We love it I mean, how's Melissa doing? We travel and we love it. You know we go to the coast... How many horses? ...We're going to the coast for a week next week with our travel trailer. We love our travel trailer! Well i never thought that I would like a travel trailer but I do. Mike you are a piece of work

21:30 You know, I miss you. I'm so glad you're here well we miss you too Alex and we miss your wife. You know i almost came down to Gonzales for the reenactment and all that oh it's uh...I just ran out of time. Come and take it's uh....i think its first weekend of October yeah for those who don't know tell folks that's where the come-and-take-it thing comes from That's the first shot before they went to the Alamo. They fired a shot over the Texas... No, I know! On my mom side of the family, I had family live there wasn't it? They come to disarm us in Gonzales and somebody wrote on a wedding dress with a cannon, come and take it and put it up and they fired a shot over the Mexican army

22:09 And that's when they went to San Antonio later and killed everybody and lost. Then they sent Susanna Dickerson back with a black slave to tell Travis that we're coming for y'all next, so he burnt Gonzalez down. Gonzalez has been burned down twice and once by Travis, and then they went under the oak tree about 14 miles from Gonzales. It all got together and then went down to San Jacinto in Warren. I know yeah. And Gonzales is very historical. Believe me, I know. And we have been very...I mean Gonzales has not grown one bit for the last 50 years until we had this oil boom that's why were so excited about it! I know it was like four! We have- It's like Mayberry stay there, stay there

22:59 Mike, we're back on air here. You're so funny! Yeah that's a good photo right there Me and Mike are marveling at how fat we've both gotten No you look good I mean I got a little bit of fat Okay i'm gonna lose 50 pounds just because she's... no no I've gotten a little chubby now you're saying Here folks for watching on TV Look at this photo right here Can we document cam on this? Okay, I guess a time the great Avenger here. I'll just put it over here you Just found the bullet there We were digging in Waco and you found some kind of bullet there And we also found the type of burning tear gas rounds they'd lied That's what it was lied and Congress said that they didn't have and again this book is available at info or store comm It's bohemian Grove cult of conspiracy Mike Hanson forward by text Mars, and it is the definitive book on

23:49 the whole Bohemian Grove and so much more. And you support Mike, and you also support us but- I'd like to say this Alex there is so much on the internet and out there and people call me up and say that you made this whole thing up about Bohemian Grove. I cannot believe anybody would be that naive That you didn't go in there. I mean, well, well, I mean a A they either say we didn't go in there or they let us in Yeah Well that's not true and then they said why is it their footage of all of it? We'd have to start the little hidden camera yeah And then put well You know what we're gonna do some overdrive and take calls but tell folks What going into bohemian grove was really like for those that don't know It's like the real eyes wide shut wow it was scary as hell if you wouldn't ask me to do it I wouldn't have done

24:30 But it's scary. I mean we could have ended up in jail for a very long time. Well they've arrested everybody else! Oh yeah, why did we make an In-N-Out? Why... I seen you on TV not too long ago trying to get in there again y'all didn't even make it up the hill No, no that's true. I didn't stop. Yeah they all good. I said go Alex go get out of there it was a lot worse the lawyers made them all cut out what really went on. I'd see I signed an honest closure so i can't tell what else happened but you just didn't really see anything Well, yeah because the police got all the footage. I think they probably have sensors and everything else way beyond what they had when we were there well There's no think about it Yeah The place they used a theater to shoot the interviews They had a bartender that was serving us lunch and stuff you know during the taping interviews He goes You know I actually work there hang out with George HW Bush And I don't appreciate what you're saying about them now at what? I'm just saying that weird stuff goes on in here

25:28 And he goes, well I'm not going to call him and tell him you're coming. And I went and told them that guy's ratting us out. They were like no, he wouldn't do that! They were so naive and they were waiting when we got there And so I said, I'm not going in there. I said, I'm gonna come right up to the edge and watch the cops run down and grab them. Then they told me to stop, I was on the waterline! I know state and federal law, I just ran off. Well you know they just recently opened up the LBJ Ranch where you can go into the house and stuff? My daughter just got married out there last month. So we went into the LBJ Ranch. They had this big From the 60s, they had this big radar where infrared were they could see if anybody was coming from. That was back in the 60s Alex so you can imagine what they have now. The Secret Service had it on top of their building and they would look through the whole ranch and see if anything was moving in the dark that was in the 60s

26:23 So you imagine what they have now. Oh, I know i have no idea it was just when I tell people on the you know when people ask me to come on the radio once in a while They'll asked me to come on about the book as I think it was just uh You know God that got us in there because I don't see how else we could have gotten in there and got out Well also We did get questioned by the secret service of the sheriff's time describe what's not on the footage many times It's all in the book See that's why I wanted to write the book because my memory fades. You know, over the years... Yeah you wrote it right a few years after? Well yeah it took three or four years to write the book and put it together and pay people to put it together because you know I don't think I'm qualified to put up a book that size together but

27:03 It cost about $10,000 to put that book together. I know it's ghost written but it's your words Yeah everything is in your words Alex does a good job in there describing They can also get the DVD Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove with the bonus film Order of Death all on the same DVD at infowarestore.com and you're purchase supports us We are going to come back with this third or fourth hour and your phone calls stay with us Alright folks, my old friend and a guy that I've been in AXS TV about a year. I'd go on his show, I'd go on Jeff Davis' show and I would work on things with him And then he started helping me film stuff and run the tv show and then help me do stuff for the radio show He actually worked and helped oversee the shipping department which was myself Mike and my wife

27:48 Yeah, in the dining room. My dad would come over sometimes and help now he would always hook up the order line computer But Mike you're awesome And I'm so glad to see your American dream just continue to come true and your great kids growing up We got people holding here we've been all over the map but then we will go back to Bohemian Grove No, but I mean yeah they had the sheriff's come over and heard it was these Sheriff and he questioned us, and we said oh we're part of the hillbilly club. And then we had the secret service come over and we would just be calm... And then we ended up in a I don't know what it was a gay dance or something, I don't know what it was. We ended up in this room and this guy runs up and asks Alex who are you? And he had Alex said just reamed me out about you better not forget your name in this net. He gave my fake name

28:38 I gave my fat name. Let's get it, you did! Well see we didn't remember that and it's even on tape so we didn't show a lot of the footage because yeah we go in there and it's all these guys like dancing around together. It's all men. I forgot about that one that's disgusting And can I thank my wife of 30 years because she really really had to put up with all this stuff for 14 years, you know because I wasn't really around. I want to thank my wife yeah the incredible beauty and beautiful you married a beauty and the intellect she's so sweet and she was smart super sweet to me this morning that's who

29:16 got that website going as good as it did with all the you know because it really started out to be nothing. Well she's really the brains behind the whole operation yeah so is my wife Mrs Spacely? She does it all when we have to kick people out she has to go to court and all that kind of stuff, so she's no it's good but hey man's gotta have a good woman beside him I wanna see your kids. But, but I want to thank her because I've never publicly thanked my wife. I love her so much that she stood by us for those 14 years when I worked for you and I was gone all the time. Also also I want to thank my wife. That's right we love our wives. There we go! 30 years. I married her in 1984. Yeah 84 yeah

30:04 Yeah, I haven't seen your kids though in probably five years. They're grown! I have a five-year old grandson now. You know i'm raising him He's my little Latino child. That's because you're racist? I wish, i wish i could have had a little latino grandson when i ran for office here in South Austin. I could have used him like Gomez. You know, I was running against a Hispanic woman, an incumbent and it was very hard you know and I had a last name of Hanson and South Austin 60% Hispanic. So I was an uphill battle there, but hey running for office you educated a lot of people and that's what I tried to do because you had said to do it so i did it we were fighting the police state member the absent assistance assistant program where they would your kid would miss one day they try to arrest them and the penal code didn't even say house couldn't even did he was a was if that's not truancy missing once and they come out in search your house when you missed one day without a warrant yeah

31:05 and so we put a stop to that for awhile. I heard they brought it all back again. Yeah, why don't other people fight things? Why do we have to fight everything well there's actually i think there's people down there now you know what i'll tell you a good story Alex you know my wife used to work at the Travis County uh... met this woman in my daughter's wedding that says, that they all believe you know because we used to go down there almost every Tuesday and now all those people that work there believe everything you said. You know everything that you said when you went in there they know is true now so they're oh yeah Elshire we went to hit the former county judge We went to his house he's a listener and now it was awake So remember Elshire? They know what you were saying back then is true now And uh...they're are listeners Hold on! Were gonna be right back with your phone calls I promise

31:52 I promise we're going to huge whistle that doesn't sound too nice and other people. Who's there? I don't know it's one of the callers up there all right friends with Kate Upton Mike, I really should have gotten you in here to tell the story about your dad being one of the heroes driving him while his vehicle got shot up getting people on the street and saving them whenever they had the tower shooting back in 1966 what was that on August 1st Yeah, I think it was. Is that what it says? Yeah well August 2nd was the Austin-Mexico State's one but yeah It says yesterday it happened so yeah a bloodbath gushed over Austin and the University of Texas Monday leaving 15 persons dead and 31 others wounded at the hands of a lone gunman who made a arsenal fortress in the university tower

32:36 The 90 minute mass slaughter that brought this city to its knees ended only when the city police officers gunned down Charles Joseph Whitman, a 25 year old student. Besides himself, Whitman's carnage left dead his wife, his mother and 13 persons on the campus. Try to remember who is it knew him? Was it my uncle knew him or was it my grandfather? He lived right over by where your parents do not couple blocks from from where your parents live. Yeah, I know. You know memory as soon as the show's over, I'll remember who it was he knew in my family. At least nobody has a memory like you Oh no! I had a lady on yesterday Mary Lou Henner 1000 times better. You remember where she was five days ago or something? Well me and my dad were talking about that last night if like if I sit and think about even a day like a year ago I can go back and find it but its finding it in the filing cabinet with her its like bam she just knows right where its at

33:31 But there was some kind of inside thing with it. I forget it's really weird It's like my grandma knew LBJs hitman is your grandparents still living my grandmother Yeah, that all the rest are dead they were so nice yeah, and when they tried to I mean, they told him to find them or all that in the back. Well yeah they had to clean out the creek behind her house and my grandmother looked at the plats and stuff and said well i already paid drainage fees that creeks not my property And so they started giving him the thousand dollar a day fines. And I said, let me fight it for you and he goes no i'll fight it and then he got in and he was like almost 80 years old He climbed over she's like 90 now or about to be 90. He climbed over did it all had a heart attack And then was in the hospital heart surgery Then had a stroke and then died a year later The basically the city of Austin killed my grandfather Yeah Because he just well i'm not gonna sue them Like a slave he climbed back in the creek

34:31 And with a hand saw, she just told me to do it. I said our company he chopped up all these trees and stuff that weren't even ours in a creek of course that's Austin scam they just send old people like they did Mr. Campana they basically... Roland Ellingson, whatever happened to him? I went over to the house you know where we did that interview is up on Mike Hansen archives. Yeah when you.. There's a bunch of them though. Two thousand dollar fines for eight inch grass or something like that. Three inch grass yeah and uh That interviews up there and i went over to the house where he lived in some Chinese lady answered

35:08 answer the door a yuppie kind of you know it's all turned yuppie land and they were giving him fines admitting we want your house. And then Chris Ritter told me that he died couple years ago of cancer so I think he is gone too. Yeah, he was fighting colon cancer. Joe Campana has gone too. He died. Our great engineer that helped us on all these projects George Pullen. He is dead and then The Carpenter helped us to I can't remember offhand. What is his name? But all this was while we were getting orders from the Vatican, yeah

35:51 We were ordered to do all this by the way. uh, 18 years ago when you started and you are a good person. Oh I know that Mike listen they do that for jealousy but also to change the subject some of its COINTELPRO government cast Sunstein cognitive dissonance stuff but my only issue is knowing me from day one at Access Television when i was in the control room by myself I mean, it's just people are like where did he come from? You know. He just showed up on the scene He was in a cable cast just sitting there but i'm the opposite of coming from nowhere Everybody knows who I am you know they've gone to rockwall bob hooper is his name Oh really, you know bob hooper yeah one had the white he died Yeah, he died around the same time that uh, uh william died oh, he was a nice guy. Yeah, he was from wisconsin No, no, but expanding on that

36:50 He was a boy. They've gone and gotten my high school yearbooks at Anderson and it Rockwell Trying to prove I'm not who I say him And then when they find the proof then they say that person's a fake yeah, which is kind of a nice thing? I can't find my man my but there are annuals or Alex Jones out there They mix you up with some time Oh That's how I got that's how he heard saying I was a Vatican assassin another thing as Catholic see the great people and do it you know Well, just because you go speak at a Catholic school for your sister does not mean that... Yeah. College yeah I mean it's crazy No no but the whole point- well that where she got her scholarship But separate from them saying Catholics are great people The whole point is is that there was a black famous black guy named Alex Jones who some Catholic evangelist And and they get a call They go say you didn't write this book This was about 10 years ago and said I didn't write that book I've written a book about Catholics except if I'm not Catholic

37:39 And they go, well you will have us on to denounce the Catholics. We will expose you as one and I said what's this book? And i'm going look it up It's a black guy like 70 years old and I call the guy up and I go is this a joke He goes no, i'm gonna expose you And that's where that all comes from because there is a black guy named Alex Jones. You were talking the other day on your radio about how things happen to you and they listen to your calls, I think sometimes they even listened to our calls and then they feed our wife bad information and get mad at us. They do that! That happens all of time. The woman calls up and goes hi i'm calling for Alex

38:16 Well, who's this? Oh this is his fiancee. I'm pregnant! Yeah And that's happened a lot you know That's standard procedure But i mean... It don't happen to me. I'm not, uh...I don't go on the radio as much as you do and stuff. I can imagine what you go through Just what i have to go through just from people calling me up trying to get me to say something bad about you it's just not going to happen that one famous- Let no more gossip! I didn't get you on here about that. I got you on here about your book Bohemian Grove Cult of Conspiracy Well I think you were right which you've always said stay public That's why you stayed alive so long, because you're public.

38:57 And the first thing you did when we snuck into Bohemia Grove is get that video out to everybody. That's the first thing you did, remember that? But but but remember three times they got into the mail and were erasing the tapes We were sending it out to everybody Absolutely To everybody on the internet and the Internet wasn't like it is now then You know that's 13 years ago But it was good enough to get it out there and you got it out there quick to Everybody and that's why I think they didn't kill you Well, we got death threats over that and three times they copied the tape there. They're expert people camera to camera checked it was good They mailed it a race They said you mind mailing this to world of wonder in LA the production company again make the copy mail they go That's that's though There's that's a blank tape and I said I said root wrong so I sent it again wiped it again And then finally we send it to England wiped again and Then

39:56 I used somebody that worked with us, their address to mail it to a crew member of World Of Wonder and they got it at their house. So they were getting in the mail to get that they were not happy about that It would I'm glad you got it out there when you did because I think they could they could have Wiped us all out before we got out of California, but we got out of there. We went to San Sure sure I mean we didn't put like a two-minute clip up just to show what happened But they did not want the full footage what they don't was the faces yeah? And I'm not stupid I'm not gonna I'm not gonna show the faces of the men dancing together or whatever oh it was hard to see the faces cuz Of where we had well our I do have footage

40:34 Somewhere around here. I mean, because it was hour-long tapes but only but I could only reload twice I had to get it out of the hidden bag and why I had to reload in the bathroom remember absolutely And I sent you in there cuz and they kept saying what's he doing in the bathroom? So I couldn't figure out that little tape was hard to put in there Yeah, that was a hidden camera up in the woods Absolutely at the camps Absolutely. Well, then I said we've been questioned twice no three times. I said let's go hide them and we were able to do it And by the way all at dinner they were all again By the way then Danny Glover walks by as it's almost dark you wanna hear about racism Yeah, I remember and always old men are going what's that? Because I think the average age is like 80 I mean who these people are hey That's what's really gross about these old man dancing around together The point is I mean sorry its growth folks Hugh Hefner with a woman's gross disgusting The point is is that is that there going one second?

41:25 doing here. And I mean, that's all I heard was like what? So I guess that you'd expect that from but but that's when they were all having dinner and at the dining hall we did have a place to sit so we had to get out of there Yeah But just 13 years later All those guys are dead and i'm told now there is bunch of black people there but That was like The old guard What do you think the average age was there, like 80? There was no young people. We were the youngest I think. Well that's why the Greens workers were whistling at us How old were you 13 years ago Alex? I don't know if I look...I mean both looked handsome so that's why remember where are being whistled by the Green people? I'll be 50 this month. I'll be 40 here real quick but once again But we figured out why we're able to get there Do you remember

42:14 the Yeah, but we didn't like take advantage of it. Like no But we the if you look at the guards how they looked at us They thought we were prostitutes for these no, no, we figured that out. Yeah. Yeah Go back and look at the tape and look at that guy the way he looks oh I know yeah, I mean it's like disgusting Yeah, they're all a bunch of peppy lepews. But you know when I do a couple interviews once in awhile, once a couple times on the Bohemia Grove and i always tell people don't try to get in there because we don't want...I don't want anybody go to jail. I don't think that you could do it again. I think that would be too hard. Hey one reporter got Mark Dyson myself, a guy who I met a few times

43:14 He went work there, shot footage got it out. They sent him up and I saw the court case they sent me copies that was in the news He's they got him saying that he was like a child molester and then in the court it was that a neighbor kid had seen him in his underwear across the apartment hall. And then he tried to show kids, a child sacrifice and the footage was him handing out the DVD of dark secrets inside Bohemian Grove and they got a jury to convict him for that. So look, that's what they want to do to people how much time did those people that you try to sneak in with last time? yet did they get any time out of that or do they control before now they agreed to shut up and again to give the footage over i mean all they didn't know in

43:58 And then I said, look. I'm telling you they're waiting on us and I'm not doing it. And I was waiting down there at the gorge. I wasn't going to go past the water line and then here come the security guards with police. They were like, you stop! And I'm like no, I've done nothing so I went jump into the water and swam down and got to our boats and left. Yeah, I saw you paddling. Then the cops were looking for me too there So that's when I swam over and then called Aaron Dykes who was there had him pull the suburban we had rented over. It was Aaron I took with me My wife's grandma is 94 years old. We just got her down to Gonzales in a nursing home and I go out there to visit her and stuff, and I see all these old people laying around. And you gotta do what you can before you end up in that place cuz they got them all drugged up in there

44:43 Nobody knows anything. Yeah, I think that you need to fight where you can work where you can and live a good life That's what i'm doing. I've been doing that for a couple absolutely You know, I was thinking about bohemian grove While we were there five hours A couple of just hiding out in the woods behind our cabin because they kept questioning us and I didn't want to try our luck It'd be like snapshots guys would walk by going We got a great deal transferring those nuclear reactors. I'm telling you the such and such that they walk off or they were all going to the owl watch the ritual big throngs of men in like Danny Glover, they go, that's that Glover what he doing here? It was like snapshots of the weirdness are we going into one camp because we need use the bathroom there is 100 guys drinking wine dancing together it was just bizarre but being up to that owl you really can't tell what it is when your out there remember the altar

45:36 had a real altar up there where they sacrifice. Yeah, absolutely. An effigy or if it's real... Look I apologize to Mike Robert and Melissa you can call in tomorrow i gotta go to retransmission now we've done uh three and a half hours mike it is so good seeing you man Alex great to see you again and tell your lovely family that said hi yeah and i wasn't even thinking of this all a lot of the tapes for the show and stuff or when the police and the Klan threaten to kill us. I think we need to get tapes like that. You're gonna get it all! Well, what? I just saw you guys put it up on your Mike Hansen channel... It's just in a big... I know well listen I'm gonna send the guys down to get it then we'll copy and give it back to ya but great job with the crew today great job everybody Barney Fife meets Han Solo meets Boss Hogg What's that about? That's you. You're The Lord though