Alex Jones Interviews John Hurt⧸ TXDOT 1998 Pt 2 Of 3 [W0udfCjCVQQ]

00:00 Here's my example. They're building a $2,031,000 helicopter hangar three acres under the roof according to the Commissioner's report and documents that I've got from them And they called it Starflight This is just a microcosm of the problem i'm talking about They called it star flight but the two new helicopters are going to be used by the Sheriff's Department for surveillance We have Margo Fraser, the sheriff on tape and you'll see that tonight again What saying that yes, they're going to be for surveillance But then it says nowhere in the document people voted for the bond package and I know that this is local Whereas, whereas your state... Just the point I'm making is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions over and over. They'll tell us it's for this and then we'll say great, we're for it you think its reasonable because that what you believe then they put in somebody else And they go along with what was really set up for That's my only point Well again this is going to be a state city capital metro type of operation I don't see the federal government having

01:02 any type of authority to take over the center and use it for something different. The Texas Department of Transportation is not a law enforcement agency, we have no authority to enforce the law and that's...that's not our interest. Our interest is in making sure that the transportation system in Austin and in the state of Texas safe and efficient and effective with Interstate 35 being a major NAFTA corridor We're going to see more traffic on this road And better or worse its Austin's main street And anything we can do to facilitate the flow of traffic, that's what we're trying to do. We're at an age now where were able to use quite a bit high technology and give the motorist a good deal information that he or she may not have had in the past before they get into a situation where they are just stuck in traffic. Well it sounds very reasonable to me... Just three years ago I wasn't

01:02 any type of authority to take over the center and use it for something different. The Texas Department of Transportation is not a law enforcement agency, we have no authority to enforce the law and that's...that's not our interest. Our interest is in making sure that the transportation system in Austin and in the state of Texas safe and efficient and effective with Interstate 35 being a major NAFTA corridor We're going to see more traffic on this road And better or worse its Austin's main street And anything we can do to facilitate the flow of traffic, that's what we're trying to do. We're at an age now where were able to use quite a bit high technology and give the motorist a good deal information that he or she may not have had in the past before they get into a situation where they are just stuck in traffic. Well it sounds very reasonable to me... Just three years ago I wasn't

01:55 the way I am now, but when you read the statesman and they tell you what a good idea it is in the May 10th metro state. It's not a matter of when a chemical or biological attack is happening The statement's exact quote was in the May 10th, Metro and State was it's not a question of will it happen but when it happens then you find out that secret military teams have been dispersed all over the country. And again I had the police chief at San Antonio saying this. I have articles from around the country they crashed a helicopter in Houston. The media totally covered it up and You have this whole move going on and the statesman also wrote that in Chicago and other cities, the Marines in Delta are practicing taking over police stations water facilities, communication systems. Now people could say well that's just in case terrorists take it over but I just want you all to know and this is in the media but they're telling us how wonderful it is

01:55 the way I am now, but when you read the statesman and they tell you what a good idea it is in the May 10th metro state. It's not a matter of when a chemical or biological attack is happening The statement's exact quote was in the May 10th, Metro and State was it's not a question of will it happen but when it happens then you find out that secret military teams have been dispersed all over the country. And again I had the police chief at San Antonio saying this. I have articles from around the country they crashed a helicopter in Houston. The media totally covered it up and You have this whole move going on and the statesman also wrote that in Chicago and other cities, the Marines in Delta are practicing taking over police stations water facilities, communication systems. Now people could say well that's just in case terrorists take it over but I just want you all to know and this is in the media but they're telling us how wonderful it is

02:49 secret military teams are practicing taking over communication, transportation water energy and police departments mainly. And again I don't want to you know get off into some conspiracies this is a conspiracy there's a lot of stuff that people aren't paying attention to and i just see Germany as the leader of cameras and I see Britain at the leader of cameras in germany just two months ago passed a law unanimously almost to where they can actually bug homes and put cameras in homes but politicians, psychiatrists and lobbyists are exempt. And that's in Germany, good old Deutschland we know they're the home of Big Brother

02:49 secret military teams are practicing taking over communication, transportation water energy and police departments mainly. And again I don't want to you know get off into some conspiracies this is a conspiracy there's a lot of stuff that people aren't paying attention to and i just see Germany as the leader of cameras and I see Britain at the leader of cameras in germany just two months ago passed a law unanimously almost to where they can actually bug homes and put cameras in homes but politicians, psychiatrists and lobbyists are exempt. And that's in Germany, good old Deutschland we know they're the home of Big Brother

03:32 Well, we're not into that. We're not into getting into your house or getting enlisting or seeing anything that goes on at your house At least not 1998 Not at this point 2005 Our dealing with the federal government has always been basically through the Federal Highway Administration and our interest has always been design capacity safety Was it 260 something billion just got passed? Yeah, you're talking about the highway bill? Big one huh. That's going to mean some additional money for Texas Well I tell ya' I like big roads and I'm a car enthusiast so...I love it! That was good news for us because we oughta get probably somewhere in the neighborhood of an additional $713 million dollars a year in this state which we've been giving away more money than what we have been getting back. This is a... I would think Texas being the most second populous state

03:32 Well, we're not into that. We're not into getting into your house or getting enlisting or seeing anything that goes on at your house At least not 1998 Not at this point 2005 Our dealing with the federal government has always been basically through the Federal Highway Administration and our interest has always been design capacity safety Was it 260 something billion just got passed? Yeah, you're talking about the highway bill? Big one huh. That's going to mean some additional money for Texas Well I tell ya' I like big roads and I'm a car enthusiast so...I love it! That was good news for us because we oughta get probably somewhere in the neighborhood of an additional $713 million dollars a year in this state which we've been giving away more money than what we have been getting back. This is a... I would think Texas being the most second populous state

04:21 700 million? 713 probably. 713? In April it'll be about 2 billion dollars over the course of the bill, but that's what it is every year. Oh every year! So its a good deal for us Is the bill for 4 years? 6 years. Six years oh now I see We're visiting with Mr. Hurts he is the head public information officer in Central Texas or for all of Texas For the Austin district. Austin district. Central Texas Now, you said earlier that the cameras are mainly going to be at the main intersections and mixed masters and areas where congestion generally tends to be or wrecks happen more often. How many cameras do you think Austin will get over the next six years? Well I think over a period of six years it will probably number close to 100 or so

05:07 We'll put 183 and the new additions to 183 were built with this in mind. That's where you'll see it first, we've got the bull boxes where we can pull the cables already in place and we don't have to retrofit the road so you see that? You'll see some of 183 as time goes on You'll see additional roadways like Ben White, possibly 71. And as the freeway facilities are expanded east of the interstate towards the airport I'm sure you'll see it on there as well. You talked about over 700 million and 2 billion numbers that Texas will be getting over the next six years as part of this new transportation bill. Is any of that money going for cameras? Well, no not at this point The money that was just passed by the Transportation Bill doesn't have any place to go right now As far... I mean it's not designated for anything So actually That will be up to the Transportation Commission uh..as they fund long term projects To decide where that money is gonna be spent Does the federal government encourage cameras? Well

05:07 We'll put 183 and the new additions to 183 were built with this in mind. That's where you'll see it first, we've got the bull boxes where we can pull the cables already in place and we don't have to retrofit the road so you see that? You'll see some of 183 as time goes on You'll see additional roadways like Ben White, possibly 71. And as the freeway facilities are expanded east of the interstate towards the airport I'm sure you'll see it on there as well. You talked about over 700 million and 2 billion numbers that Texas will be getting over the next six years as part of this new transportation bill. Is any of that money going for cameras? Well, no not at this point The money that was just passed by the Transportation Bill doesn't have any place to go right now As far... I mean it's not designated for anything So actually That will be up to the Transportation Commission uh..as they fund long term projects To decide where that money is gonna be spent Does the federal government encourage cameras? Well

06:03 You mean like for traffic management? Yeah, I would think that all of us do as far as traffic management goes because it's the quickest way to determine what is going on in a roadway. You don't have to wait for police car or ambulance to get there or fire truck so in the length and time it takes to punch up a button you know what's happening on the roadway. That way, you can give your people the correct information? Right. But did that... is the $700 million and the two billion over the next six years, is that going to help y'all free up other funds to build y'alls new command center or what would you call it? Well I think the traffic management center is gonna be paid for jointly through the city, the county, the state all of us that are participating in

06:41 The money from the transportation bill we hope will go more towards constructing and maintaining the infrastructure. That includes everything from multimodal projects like bicycle trails, HOV lanes as well as highway construction itself It's going to have its fingers in a lot of pies before it is all over. Basically, if you see a tower or structure with a question mark wire which I've seen many of that is the site of future camera? That's correct! That where we are going to be putting monitoring cameras and 183 is where you see most of them right now And every eighth of mile in the key areas

06:41 The money from the transportation bill we hope will go more towards constructing and maintaining the infrastructure. That includes everything from multimodal projects like bicycle trails, HOV lanes as well as highway construction itself It's going to have its fingers in a lot of pies before it is all over. Basically, if you see a tower or structure with a question mark wire which I've seen many of that is the site of future camera? That's correct! That where we are going to be putting monitoring cameras and 183 is where you see most of them right now And every eighth of mile in the key areas

07:26 That's what they've typically been like in Houston and San Antonio. I think ultimately we'll probably get to somewhere like that in this district, but not right off the bat But again Texas has no plans in the future to like California put cameras into ticket people No Not at this point What happens down the road? That's a law enforcement issue as far as the Department of Transportation goes that is not our plan or our function How do y'all work with the DPS well We work very closely with the DPS because It is the state law enforcement agency as far as patrolling the highways. Once you get outside of city limits, if you have an accident or traffic control or traffic tickets that's the responsibility of the Department of Public Safety