Monday, 16 February 2026

Alex Jones Defends John Joe Gray Video Not Seen For TEN YEARS! [wjdHTmnhswQ]

A rural Texas farm becomes the front line of a constitutional standoff as high-tech surveillance and unmarked federal task forces converge on the Gray family property.

By Mike Hanson Archives | 1h 34m listen | 22 chapters
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About this episode

Alicia Nell Gray and the Gray family of Trinidad, Texas, face an escalating standoff with a multi-jurisdictional task force following a 1999 traffic stop involving John Joe Gray and Curtis Hartin. The family alleges that a $300,000 bond and subsequent legal irregularities are part of a coordinated effort by local officials and international bankers to seize their 47-acre property near the Trinity River. Alex Jones reports that a planned federal raid was narrowly averted after national broadcasts mobilized patriot groups to the farm.

Reporters on the scene discovered high-tech surveillance equipment, including a digital wireless camera labeled Property of Marble Falls, Texas, hidden in a tree. The equipment, valued at up to $40,000, is linked to a task force allegedly operated by the Marble Falls Police Chief despite the town being located hundreds of miles from the Gray property. Further investigation into unmarked white vehicles in the area revealed fictitious license plates registered to a non-existent address on Tombstone Lane in Waco. These events are being compared to the 1993 Waco siege, with new infrared footage analysis from Infraspection suggesting government forces fired into the Mount Carmel compound during the final assault.

John Joe Gray declares his willingness to defend his land to the death against what he terms the New World Order, citing a rejection of biometric driver's licenses and the international banking system. The segment features field audio of reporters dodging laser rangefinders while Alex Jones displays his own expired license as a protest against Bill Clinton's 1993 executive orders. Guest appearances include local residents and callers detailing systemic corruption within the Texas Department of Public Safety and the hidden trillions of dollars allegedly tracked in Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.


CHAPTER 01 / 22 Discussion

Gray Family Statement Regarding John Joe Gray Arrest Warrant

Alicia Nell Gray released a formal statement of facts to address rumors surrounding the Gray family in Trinidad, Texas. The document details a 1999 traffic stop involving John Joe Gray and Curtis Hartin that led to charges of disarming and assaulting a police officer. The family claims the incident involved excessive force by officers and subsequent legal irregularities, including a $300,000 bond and the failure of their attorney to file a writ.

john joe gray· trinidad texas· arrest warrant· dps· alicia nell gray

01:33 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to read a press release here from the Grays. That's John Gray that's the family that's having the trouble with our law enforcement officers here in Texas they're out in East Texas near the town of Trinidad and there have been a lot of rumors floating around back-and-forth things said about them. And so they released on Friday, I'm sorry this is Saturday the 19th of August They issued a press release to basically clear up the rumors So i am going to read this verbatim their press release This press release statement of facts

02:25 In order to clear up misinformation surrounding the Gray family, we have chosen to release a statement of pertinent information regarding and in relation to the current circumstances. The following statement is true to the best of my knowledge Number one, arrest warrant for John Joe Gray. According to the information we have Joe has a warrant issued for him for the charges of disarming a police officer and assault on a police officer The circumstances surrounding this are as follows On December 24th 1999 an individual with whom we were acquainted

03:04 named Curtis Hartin, arrived at our house near Trinidad Texas and suggested we take a ride to Palestine to look at a cabin which Joe had built for a friend. When asked if he were going to carry a gun Joe replied that it wasn't such a good idea as he thought the police were watching closely. When Curtis said he was going to carry and suggested Joe do the same, Joe agreed to do so. Other guns in the car belonged to Curtis During the trip, Curtis driving continued to exceed the speed limit and Joe cautioned him about it. Curtis insisted he had the latest anti-radar gear as they approached Palestine, Curtis sped past a DPS car with two officers inside The officers turned around followed and stopped the vehicle in which Joe was a passenger After being told to get out, Curtis quickly exited the vehicle and said to Joe Sorry, Joe

04:00 The other officer went around to Joe's side, opened the door and asked Joe if he was armed. Joe sat there calmly and replied that he was. After the officer asked Joe if he had a concealed carry permit, Joe replied that he didn't need one it was his God-given right and confirmed by the Constitution The officer shouted that it was not a right, drew his pistol aimed at Joe and screamed for Joe to get out of the car. As Joe reached up to move the automatic seat belt so he could exit, the officer started shouting, He's going for his gun! He's going for his gun! Joe calmly replied he wasn't going for his gun and sat back down with his feet on the ground as the officer continued to shout

04:48 The other officer at this time jumped in the back seat, grabbed Joe's right arm and handcuffed it. As the officer started pulling on Joe's arm and trying to get his other arm, Joe pushed back against the officer. At some point, Joe was hit in the side of the head by one of the officers and following that both of them ended up on the grass with the officer's arm around Joe's head and face. At that moment, Joe bit down. The officer started yelling and the other officer started spraying Joe with pepper spray. Joe then quit biting the officer After first aid from an EMT who had arrived, Joe was taken to the county jail in Palestine. Joe remained in the Palestine jail for two weeks without any charges being filed During the time he was in the jail they attempted to inject Joe with a white fluid in a needle and syringe Joe described as a size intended for large livestock saying it was a TB test

05:46 Joe refused and was kept in solitary confinement much of the time. Joe was not allowed any phone calls for the first three days After two weeks, during which I paid my locally obtained attorney $1,000 to file a writ, Joe had a hearing which he assumed was related to the writ No writwas ever filed The hearing was a bond reduction hearing Originally, Joe's bond was set at $300,000 and despite not being charged with anything After Joe's bond was reduced to $52,000 again no charges. We used a rent house we owned as collateral and bonded Joe out

06:26 Some of the conditions of the release imposed by the judge included not being on any property with a firearm, nor could he own interest in any property on which firearms might be carried. Furthermore, he was to report to a probation officer weekly in Athens despite not being charged with anything. Joe came back to Trinidad and hasn't left. Circumstances lead us to believe that the bondsman was interested in the property used for collateral We later found out Joe's attorney, who did not file a writ as he was paid to do—we have a receipt—was closely related to the prosecuting attorney. We have been told there was a grand jury hearing in May we weren't notified from this grand jury came the charges I assume Point number two custody of children This question is simple

07:18 While driving through town on our daughter's birthday, she and her husband Keith were stopped by the police where it was discovered that Keith had three unpaid traffic tickets and a subsequent arrest warrant. When they were taken in although stating her name Lisa chose not to reveal her date of birth In any case it was her husband not her who was arrested Lisa was held in jail for failure to identify when Keith got out He was supposed to get her out but failed to do so When she finally got out, they came to our house at which time Keith left again. After two weeks, Keith filed for divorce During the child custody hearing Lisa having no faith in the courts chose not to attend She has never been served any papers related to the custody of the children Point number three

08:09 Other contributing factors include Joe's distribution of constitutional information to local judges and police departments, and sheriff's departments. None seem to have any interest in real law by their very actions they are outlaws and outside the law so I guess we're known as some of those weird people who still believe in the Constitution as well as the Bible God's Word is the sole guide for our family We are not members of the Kingdom of Heaven Church. We believe in God's Word as it is written, we also believe the Constitution is the law of the land as it says and we believe and will follow it as it is written and as our founders wrote and intended to be Our faith in God is strong and unbending And our resolve is without compromise May God bless you and be merciful to you according to his will Alicia Nell Gray

CHAPTER 02 / 22 Discussion

Surveillance Camera Discovery and Task Force Phone Inquiry

A surveillance camera was discovered on the Gray family farm in East Texas following reports of an impending federal raid. Upon calling the phone number found on the equipment, individuals identifying only as a "task force" refused to provide their specific agency or authority. The caller was directed to a P.O. Box in Austin, Texas, associated with a "court team," and told to file a Freedom of Information Act request to identify the organization.

alex jones· task force· surveillance camera· marble falls· freedom of information act

09:10 What about the other part, Ed? There's an addendum to this. And this part says... and this is... Well I'm not sure exactly if this is Alicia Grableve it is but anyway it says many thanks to Alex Jones for driving over 500 miles in the middle of the night to expose an impending federal raid on the Gray family farm For all those who don't believe the feds were involved, you need to listen to this report. We should all be thankful that we have a patriot willing to go the extra mile for freedom." Okay Ed before we take calls and get into uh...the tape about what happened down there in East Texas can you tell us about

10:03 who the people are that own this camera. We're going to back this tape up here and show this camera again Can you tell us what happened today when you called, the number on the camera that was smashed out there in East Texas? Well Mike, you had given me that information that you had called the number that was on the camera and these people answered the phone just saying task force but wouldn't identify what task force they were with or if they were actually a law enforcement agency. So I followed up on that and I called them And I got the same response They just answered task force

10:43 And when I asked him what agency they were with, the lady that answered the phone passed me on to a man. And all he would say is that they called themselves task force He would not say what agency they were with. He would not tell me where his authority derived from I told him that I was concerned that phone number was out there in the public, that it was found on a piece of equipment out in East Texas and when we call this number people answer saying task force. And apparently the implication is some sort of law enforcement agency and I told him its great concern they were not identifying what agency they were.

11:35 He told me to write to a particular PO box. Okay, Ed let me stop you there is it is that the same P o box? The guy gave you on the phone today as what's fixing to be shown on this tape That's absolutely right now Can you verify that when it comes up on the film here that it's the same address address you have on that piece of paper right there. It's going to come up in just a few minutes here, by the way folks that is Joe Gray and his wife That is the grandparents of some of the kids they are saying are being held hostage Is that true Ed? Right Yeah now this address he gave it me on the phone I had not seen any video y'all shot out there so I did not know anything about it Phone numbers or addresses that were on camera other than the phone number that you told me about

12:26 But he gave me this address for the Corps team, PO Box 340060 Austin 78734. And he said if I wrote to this address and sent in Freedom of Information Act forms that they might respond and tell me what agency they were with. So you have to file a Freedom of Information Act, to find out if these people are real cops? Well here we go Edd. This is the address and the phone number that was on this piece of equipment... Let me take this number down There it is let me steal that for the folks here see if I can steal it well let me back that up just a little bit Edd Steal that for them right there Is that the same?

13:14 yeah that's a p.o box now the camera it says covert operations uh... but what uh... the man told me is that they could have the address i should write to be at the organization was called court team why thought we didn't have any secret police in this and well that's what i kept uh... telling him because he kept wanting me to identify myself and I said, I think we got it backwards here. You're the one whose phone number is out there you're the one pretending to be a police agency. I want to know what agency are with if any? And I said if your private business that's fine just tell me your private and that's it you don't have to say anything more but if you're governmental agency need to tell me who you're with He continued to refuse

CHAPTER 03 / 22 Discussion

Government Accountability and Surveillance Equipment Costs

Discussion centers on the refusal of law enforcement agencies to identify themselves to the public despite using taxpayer funds. The hosts argue that the governor's office requires agencies to identify themselves upon request. Further debate covers the negligence of leaving expensive surveillance equipment, estimated to be worth between $20,000 and $40,000, in rural areas where it could be damaged by livestock.

secret police· tax money· governor's office· surveillance· camera value

13:59 So then he started getting into this game about, well if you know asking me who I was and you know. I just kept insisting that he identify himself had he done so of course would have had no problem telling him who I was but I resent the fact that you call a law enforcement agency and the first thing they want to know is who you are You know, the secret police. Well according to the governor's office and I did call today if they're taking city state or fed money they're supposed to identify who their with when they answer the phone if you ask them too Right so but he kept asking me who I was and finally he said well if your not going tell me who you are then this phone call never happened

14:46 And he repeated that about four or five times as I continued to press him to find out what agency was with. Finally, in the end it was kind of funny because he told me one last time well if you're not going tell me who you are if your refusing to identify yourself then as far as I'm concerned this telephone call never happened and so I told him well It doesn't really matter what you think. What really matters is what I think." And with that he hung up on me The point is that these people work for us. They take our tax money, you know we work hard we pay our taxes and that's what these people are arrogant enough to think that they're above the law That the law tells them that they must identify themselves They refuse to do so So it is actually more important

15:43 What we the public think about them than what they think about us? Well, they don't even follow their own laws according to some of their laws if we leave our keys in the car at 7-eleven They will give us a ticket if it's stolen now Why is the agency leaving this expensive equipment out in the middle of East Texas somewhere and the next And the next day it's smashed by cows or something. We're not really sure how it got smashed, Ed because... Well, it looked like it was on a tripod out there Mike and I really don't know where the feds put this thing but if they have it sitting out there and you have deer and everything else running around out there give me a break! You don't put expensive camera on a tripod in the middle of nowhere

16:32 How much was that camera worth Mike? Well I've had reports from 20 to 40,000. I'm not sure you know...I've had calls from from 20 to 40 thousand. I know that Alex bought a camera and it was like six and a half thousands And that's, you know and it's not radio controlled like this one was. Well that was real bright leaving in on a dark country road in the middle of the night where cattle come through regularly. Well that's right and we're fixing to show the film I think everybody if you haven't saw this film I think your going to like it We'll probably be playing at about 1235 and I'm sure there is time for calls here If you want to get in with a legitimate call your welcome

CHAPTER 04 / 22 Discussion

Unmarked White Vehicles and Fictitious License Plates

A personal account describes being pulled over by individuals in military fatigues driving a white van with no top lights near Marble Falls, Texas. Investigation into the vehicle's license plates revealed they were registered to a non-existent address on "Tombstone Lane" in Waco. The incident is linked to a task force allegedly run by the Marble Falls Police Chief, raising questions about why a city official is conducting surveillance in East Texas.

marble falls· bastrop· white bronco· fictitious plates· tombstone lane

17:13 Well, if they see the number on the camera, they're welcome to do what they want with it. uh... what it is folks the number that's on the camera if you call that number what happens is it says its out of order and here's the new number and gives you a eight three zero number long distance number yeah thats a marble falls exchange and they have this I know they've been doing for a long time ed it all ties back to these white vehicles in Bastrop they have these white broncos pulling people over on seventy one in between here and

17:57 Marble Falls. Lance, we were actually stopped I want you to tell that story and we checked the license plates out on the white Bronco with people in their fatigues that stopped us when we were on our way out to a work site one day and it came up as a fictitious license plate in Waco Texas on Tombstone Lane go ahead and tell that story while we're on our way with a crew out to Marvel Falls to build a house Yeah, okay that's been a while but I remember it pretty good. We were going out to work on the house at Marble Falls and it wasn't real early in the morning but still mid-morning what was it Mike 839ish something like that? We were getting out there kind of late then.

18:42 I think it was more like 730, but it was light already. Yeah Anyway a white van got behind us at one point with no lights on top if I remember right? I think they were in the grill when we finally saw him A couple of guys That's where they... And of course you can imagine how that made us feel. All of a sudden this white van and then here's this guy in a military uniform, right? We're looking at each other like what and then all of a sudden this guy on the left-hand side On my side of the door Yeah on Mike's side because Mike was driving a truck and I was sitting kind of in the middle up front and I think Scott Was sitting next to me and we had Darrell in the back

19:37 And this guy on the driver's side just yanks the door open and kind of... It starts grabbing for my stuff in the back seat, my tools and all kinds of stuff. He's shoving Mike forward in his seat trying to get it. And Mike says hey what are you doing? I didn't give him permission to get back there. Of course I slammed the door shut. Rolled up a window and locked it. quick breakdown on why they're not allowed to do that. They didn't like it very much, but we didn't like it very much either. Of course they were doing it to all women out there and Cadillacs and stuff have all their stuff out of them. But what they said Mike remember what they said? We were like who are you guys and had border patrol patches on yeah

20:20 And I called Borobudur and they said they don't have any agents up in the hill country. Yeah, and he says well we're looking for migrant workers Well that's not how you go about doing it besides that do you know? Oh, we're not looking for Mexicans So we're looking for Canadians Russians, and what was other thing they were looking for of check out the license plates. We went over there and checked this out, and it goes back to a fictitious license plate in Waco Texas. I think the street was even made up wasn't it? Yeah Tombstone Lane. Tombston Road was even made up. Yeah Tombstone...I looked it up as no Tombstone Road in Waco Texas It's a complete fraud And these people are running around out here. I don't know what kind of who they're working for Ed did they tell you they were working for the Governor's Task Force

21:23 No, these people told me absolutely nothing. The Sheriff's Department of Burnet County when I called them they told me that this task force organization is run by Chief Whitaker of Marble Falls and that uh... if you can look at the of those stickers that's photographed as a member of a right you'll see them in russia what they yeah on on the tape that this stickers on the camera actually say that that is property of the city of marble falls now i want to know what is the city police chief of marvel falls doing running an operation that has surveillance equipment on private property out in east texas

CHAPTER 05 / 22 Discussion

Caller Discussion on Judicial Corruption and Traffic Tickets

A caller discusses the case of a man beaten by a DPS officer and the broader issue of systemic corruption within the Texas court system. The conversation highlights how citizens are often forced to navigate a corrupt legal framework to resolve minor traffic tickets or identification issues. The caller suggests that the lack of accountability for law enforcement proves the system is designed to suppress individual rights.

veteran hail· dps· judicial corruption· traffic tickets· driver's license

22:04 This is, it boggles my mind. I really don't know what to say about it or what to make of it other than its secret police type activity and they must be using Marble Falls the city Police Department there at least the chief as some kind of a cover for this operation The lines are full. Do you want to take a chance with the calls Lance because yeah, I never screen call screening calls folks So whatever you say is going on Callers don't appreciate that let's go ahead Hello I want to talk about veteran hail You know no videotape has been brought forth and I doubt that it'll be brought forth during During trial whenever that actually happens

22:59 Caller they do have a tape of this man here on screen being beat up by DPS officer and he defended himself by biting the man in the thumb and The judge said to the DPS you beat him up not the other way around that's a judge exactly what happened there and now they uh... he you know he is certainly cannot leave his property well this poll taxes are police incident took place last week and apparently the f eight the san antonio express in another mainstream news publication we have it right here caller but let me attend the fear of ms nbc uh... i don't know about real details

23:42 We have standoff continues amid attack rumors. Trinidad, Texas by Jim Henderson of the Houston Chronicle so if you can look that up somehow it's a good story and pretty balanced Even has Alex at the end of it. Where's that? Come on Tuesday evening Tuesday evening Alex Jones and Austin based radio talk show host told his audience that he had received word that federal agents have set up command posts outside Gray's property and were preparing to attack with armored vehicles I watched the whole the whole well, I didn't see a whole five hours But I saw what Alex showed earlier this evening

24:25 We're fixing to show that again for people that Did not see there was at a lot. Oh, what's that alive Alex Jones broadcast? Yes, yes Yes, because I couldn't there was no date on it It was the show at 5 o'clock and the show at 730 are all live this show is live at 12 o'clock but we're fixing to show the show from Earlier today at 730. But I didn't even know, well I missed Alex Jones last week and that's probably why I didn't know about this incident but when did it take place? It took place okay he was on the air Tuesday at

25:04 4.30 and Miss Ritter called in and said that it was underway so we jumped in the car, in the truck right after the show and went down there about 11.30 The first time I heard about it was through another TV host there It wasn't Alex Jones but someone that first...it wasn't Rittter that I heard from but I heard that oh it was Jeff Davis last Tuesday when I first heard about it And he was talking about it. We got to put something up, okay? I'm getting a bow horse up there! Sorry caller we're trying to get something up here Yeah you know as far as veteran hail You know if if I can't see what and I know those DPS have to have the high tech Have to have the priority they're going to have that equipment

25:54 and it's funny but i don't even think i'm going to be the he would actually took place which was recorded on the videotape also during the trial why do why don't you think i have a nice leader we want to know what we're gonna go to top murders look at that the so-called european yogurt shop murders are you do you think your ever going to see they didn't even hardly show the video tape of the cockpit try to claim that in the video tape the cop doesn't even point is done doesn't even take out his gun and pointed at uh... at the person's head that he'd interrogating and his lawyer in it father were not allowed to see him and i mean for me i can't be corrupt all around them and obviously if lance cook injecting jeff contrarian and and captain mike or are citizen bill were able to get through the court system without needing to get a driver

26:46 driver's license or being able to pass up tickets because they were illegally given to them, then for me that shows corruption right there. It kind of seems like what they do is go on and step on your toes and leave it up to you to fix it And if you don't, then its your problem. Y'all already proved that the law is corrupt by going to court and bringing forth this information This was a few months ago Right, right. This stuff goes on all the time People get out of traffic tickets all the time this should be nothing Well there's people being violated every single day I know but it's... There is no doubt in my mind that most people buckle under and do not have the time and effort

CHAPTER 06 / 22 Discussion

Waco Siege Evidence and Rules of Engagement Documentary

The discussion shifts to the 1993 Waco siege and allegations of suppressed evidence, including a door from the Mount Carmel compound that showed incoming gunfire. Reference is made to the documentary "Rules of Engagement" and footage provided by Bob Dacey. The hosts and a caller claim that thermal imaging and physical evidence prove the government fired into the building during the final assault.

waco· branch davidians· mount carmel· rules of engagement· bob dacey

27:27 to go out here and go to these court system believe me, when you're tied up in these court systems, I can tell ya that from a fact. But the court didn't bring charges because obviously they knew that they were corrupt and couldn't do anything and they were working under a corrupt system And as far as the Waco incident, this siege i mean even the chronicle i don't even but i don't even like that read you know they're often chronicled but i mean they sometimes they've had some pretty in-depth articles about all this crippling latest one of last week on third became comes out there's a you know it should be said all this information about how the government was corrupt how they took half of that

28:07 door, the left door they kept in court but they didn't really show much of it. They just kept it to the side but the right hand part or whatever, the door there, they kept half of the door where the incoming bullets had been fired into the compound, they just kept that out of trial altogether and so many other information they also that they also to the air was working for them for the government might be took the top of the church records vaults who doubt what they were able to find that to show that uh... the uh... the blasted about demolition charge been placed on top of the building a new revelation which just aired uh... just before this show came to land you've shown the most interesting u and bob daisy have shown the most

28:51 interesting the most insightful footage on your shows I don't even think i've seen anything that insightful on any of Alex Jones shows but he talks about it. Alex does talk about everything and he has shown all the documentation, but I think it was Bob Dacey in your show that actually showed the most horrifying stuff that you just can't debate you can't deny The rules of engagement is playing on ACTV. I just saw it tonight So, I mean it's out there if you got the movie at the library and I saw it but rules of engagement Is for some if that's the same one? I'm talking about that off It's just too it it's oh

29:30 Don't know it doesn't get it doesn't get into as much graphic detail is what I've seen on Lancer show and on on Bob Dacey well But you just can't stress it enough here's a film Here's a man who developed the technology for this film and he's showing you Branch Davidians being shot at by with machine gun look at the other guy one guy got a stroke but he didn't die one dot colicky gliadi died decomposing in his apartment i mean apt that one guy gotta stroke almost died one guide had heart attack and almost died and they were all experts they were off saying that the where footage proved it shows that there was gunfire being fired from the government group

CHAPTER 07 / 22 Discussion

Vector Data Systems and Infrared Footage Analysis

Analysis of the Waco flare footage is questioned due to the involvement of Vector Data Systems, a defense contractor owned by Antion Systems. The hosts claim the company is biased due to lucrative, non-competitive Oracle database contracts with the Justice Department and IRS. A report from Infraspection, commissioned by Gordon Novell, allegedly debunked the government's analysis of the infrared footage.

vector data systems· antion systems· oracle· infrared· gordon novell

30:16 or whoever was in that video shooting into the compound. Yeah, and then they had this phony vector data systems doing the analysis on behalf of the government... But that guy has a government contract working, doing top secret, probably doing top... He's contracted by them so I mean obviously he is going to stick up for them Right and it's first of all, talking about it being a British company The original Vector Data Systems was a British company, but it's now not only American owned. But their headquarters are just outside Washington DC not far from the Pentagon Okay yeah we're talking about the British firm No Antion Systems they're the parent firm Yeah Antion Systems they actually own Vector Data Systems

31:04 And they are an American company, American defense contractor. And they brag about having 4,000 employees in 70 government installations worldwide. They're totally a defense contractor anybody that works for them has to have top secret clearance from the US government those people are anything but unbiased and not only that but they have got uh... in fact the timing of these contracts was really interesting i think that's been several large contracts when these are worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars they are non-competitive uh... contracts numbers is no bidding involved anyone yet in any department within the

31:47 within the Justice Department. We're talking IRS, we're talking BATF and those organizations are named actually in the contracts they must get all of their Oracle database software from and through Antion Systems. Now the timing of those contracts is interesting, the first contract was let several months after Waco Rules of Engagement was released right about when the flare footage was first making a big impact on the public Then the second contract was let on September 30th of 1999, which is just about 11 days after we started rebuilding the church and right in the middle of new interest in the flair footage that was

32:40 being talked about that they were going to put into the Waco new revelation video. So, they were lining these people up and basically gave these people a retainer in case they needed to use flare experts for anything to debunk the real genuine experts out there So again, I'm a software analyst. I know how much Oracle contracts are worth. It's a tremendous amount of money so these people were bought and paid for to cover up basically and in fact

33:16 The infraspection, their report which was in May I think when Gordon Novell contacted them up there and got them to re-evaluate the flare footage. And I saw the facts right as it came off of their machine up there in Waco at the Davidian Defense headquarters you might call it Anyway, that fax from Infrospection said... That the vector data systems analysis was totally bogus. Okay, this is the these are two of the most important points for one number one You know this flare footage supposedly is only supposed to be able to peak I mean it it peaked it picks up heat basically It doesn't pick up flashes or reflections of light. I mean off of a windshield er

CHAPTER 08 / 22 Discussion

Property Disputes and Environmental Preserves in East Texas

The Gray family's 47-acre property near the Trinity River is reportedly being targeted for acquisition by a wealthy banker and environmental groups. The hosts suggest that the legal harassment of John Joe Gray is a form of retribution intended to force him off the land. Comparisons are made to the case of Melvin Hale, who allegedly faced similar land-grab attempts for nearly two decades.

athens texas· trinity river· environmentalists· property rights· melvin hale

34:14 or whatever they were saying that it came from, I mean... It's gonna show gunfire. Especially rapid gunfire that takes time over more than one second Over a period of seconds And am i speaking to Ed? Or am I speaking to a real expert? You have Lance Mike and Ed here Yeah But uh... Carl are they want- We're going let some more people get in here we only have ten minutes before we show the text Hey lemme just Let me just ask you one thing though right quick, because just from watching John Joe's personality from what we've showed of the videos and you know us and you know what we're like. And none of us down here are violent that are doing these shows Well those people seem down to earth they seem like they care about their family and they're just trying to I mean they're following the law basically because in the Constitution it says that they don't have

35:07 put up with this corruption. Apparently these people worship, they're not only masons but they sacrifice children. I don't know if any of that's true? Well we don't know about that! But we do know from Joe that he had tried and complained about the cattle coming into his place Round them up and then call the sheriff and go through this over and over they took retribution on him because the commissioners court well by the right just remember this caller they threatened all the 5,500 acres around him's owned by a rich banker out of Athens And they've always been trying to take his property. He has 47 acres Ryland Trinity River that right across the river They're building this is it called in nature position?

36:05 Preserve the environmentalists. Yeah, you can hear them sawing if you go down there You can hear him sawing over there. It's not like we use it Oh and it's also where they had is that the Indian? Is the Indian what is it the India Spanish War? I think it's an Indian Spanish war They had their preserve that a famous battle If you look in history books took place right there on his property So we need to look into that, who's trying to get this property. Same thing down in World of Better. Why were they trying to get his... not better but what was it? Melvin Hale! Why were they trying to get his land for 18 years?! We'll show the footage and maybe I'll call back later if there is time. God bless you sir. Thank You

CHAPTER 09 / 22 Discussion

Alex Jones on Averting a Second Waco

Alex Jones joins the program to discuss his role in publicizing the impending raid on the Gray family farm, which he claims averted a "blood bath." Jones reports that a multi-jurisdictional task force was prepared to move in but retreated after his broadcast drew national attention and patriot groups to the site. He characterizes the situation as a standoff between a criminal bureaucracy and citizens defending their constitutional rights.

alex jones· infowars· federal raid· trinidad texas· multi-jurisdictional task force

36:48 Go ahead You should have let him all right guys you're sitting there making me lose sleep All right, go ahead Alex Four minutes before we had to play you Alex. That's right unless you want me fast-forward it just and play the 40 minutes Whatever you want now Mike you well no there wouldn't be time anyways It's an hour show Mike Just an hour and a half, bro. Hour and a half? Oh that's fine We have an hour-and-a-half show Yeah I know but it's in our tapes what i'm saying Well we got it for 45 minutes where you started talking about it yeah That's fine whatever you don't... Go ahead, brief him No uh..I was just calling um... Ed's up there working his tail off Ed we need those digital photos from the world net daily oh he's working on that already! Oh I know ed is the best There are some of the dead bodies run over

37:38 I just appreciate all you guys. Well, can you talk about this, Alex? This Tuesday evening Alex Jones, an Austin-based radio talk show host told his audience that he received word that federal agents had set up a command post outside of the police department and prepared to attack... Go ahead and tell people what that's all about. That's even in the MSNBC News report they do admit that there was... The sheriff was going to move in that morning with a multi-jurisdictional task force—the feds, the state, the locals— and by showing up and putting out the word nationwide on radio my sixty-plus affiliates mother listeners taking action were able to avert another wake of ten adults from seven children going bunker on the property was built by the graze month-and-a-half two months ago do all this harassment insist kids on top the bunker and we're gonna show some footage that that's what they put the children at night tonight down there took a room in case them feds do come into all the adult but will build a kill the children

38:36 so the feds better watch it if you're planning on there but those kids who claim to grace did and other just trying to spend this all day on i mean that's basically what comes down to uh... you know we fight tirelessly trying to wake people up with we took action inadvertent disaster that for a bold down to the truth all about stopping the bloodshed we don't want the grazed there would have what the police said only two creates this bigger and bigger chasm between the general public and of course the enforcers of this criminal bureaucracy. That's all we want, I mean the evidence is overwhelming what Mr. Gray was talking about the devil worshipers stuff he asked his preacher why do you have a masons ring? And they said do you want to join? He said let me research it and found out that it's occultic they even admit that

39:24 and they were harassing him but that's where it all began we didn't have time to put the gray, all the gray interview on. We started grabbing clips by the time we got to 40 minutes of tape I was like man when do i have time for this so next week will air all the uh... John Joe Gray interview uh... on the show of course will be live from four thirty to five uh... for thirty two six tomorrow on jolted all i think lanceford and a great job on the show you too much of course it amigo and others yes can hear that they've been happy just keep taking calls me but the fact the matter is that's a federal camera layout there they got this local puppet mjpf out of the governor's office out in marble falls It's just standard operating procedure. I mean, it's just the country is sick."

40:16 bunch claiming to be a border patrol i think they just have closets of uniforms that they just don't know how many of them actually do i mean you look at the document on info war dot com from fordhood under martial law series with phone numbers and documents they admit they had police wearing uh... military-wearing police uniform serving search warrants down they call it all which is assistance it's uh... no big deal in edible course wrote a story on that as well for info wars dot com but um... you know everybody watching to get involved with now that's the telltale sign of a secret police in the military have closets full of uniforms welcome to nicaragua salvador mexico russia what they got and forwards dot com working they find this job race that it's all right there on the main page where we didn't have time we did never put the

CHAPTER 10 / 22 Discussion

Child Custody Allegations and Media Propaganda

The discussion addresses media reports from MSNBC claiming children were being held hostage at the Gray farm. Alex Jones disputes these claims, stating the children are with their mother and that no search warrants related to child custody were ever served. He compares the "for the children" narrative to the justifications used by federal agencies during the 1993 Waco siege.

msnbc· child custody· search warrant· branch davidians· propaganda

41:02 Well, I think the Washington Times stories up there and a bunch of others about this but we've never talked to San Antonio Express News Dallas Morning News Houston Chronicle But that'll all be up on the website tomorrow Our main web computer is actually in the shop right now because one of the drivers went out We can't seem to get it to work. One more question about the kids They're saying they're trying to claim that some of the kids are being held hostage well that's that's also by msnbc and i think inaccurate part of the article made medical but we have heard it blood bath sheriff admits about the same article a they got two photos to children's ever been held hostage don't mention its their mother keeping in the day of the claim these children are being held will hurt on that's what it means to have a hostage but just the same span but they were never plan to serve as search warrant out there uh... for

41:50 uh... feeling about children or child custody of the whole thing was about mister gray in this situation with the dps refusing to have driver's license before that they admit that but they just throw this in like what wake up they go out to waco over supposedly illegal guns want to call their pants down all it for the children uh... so it's just a six for the children children and from that tape that i saw the fit though footage that you are got those kids look beautiful they were looked healthy they are happy they don't like their being held hostage to me yeah well now is no papers have been served none of them plan out another talking about even the paper made that but didn't know this was just what they do that i think it'll be

42:34 it's s o p nowadays yeah i just it for the children for the children sure the branch of idioms kids were fine and then uh... fifty one days after the fed showed up they were all dead so explain that well they were saving children we all know the dividends to the company so extreme just turning your guns when she was much safer control i'm gonna get off a crash but you guys in the show with you know just uh... keep taking calls are part of the video me it is basically realize what a hot blooded was when went there but thank god stuff that turned out all right at least for now Well, thanks for all your hard work commander. You definitely averted a bad situation there and like in Waco of course you had the BATF involved there in saving the children and now you have apparently some rogue element of the governor's narcotics task force run by police chief at Marble Falls involved in a child custody case out in East Texas it boggles the mind

CHAPTER 11 / 22 Discussion

Unmarked Emergency Vehicles and Secret Police Concerns

A caller reports seeing unmarked white and red pickup trucks using hidden blue, white, and red lights and sirens in Bastrop, Texas. The vehicles lacked official license plates and the drivers were not in uniform. The hosts interpret this as evidence of an evolving "secret police" or "Gestapo" presence in Texas, though they briefly consider if the vehicles belonged to a volunteer fire department.

bastrop· unmarked vehicles· sirens· gestapo· secret police

43:40 Okay, go ahead I haven't hung up yet. Go ahead. Oh Okay, go right ahead. Alright well today I saw something you were mentioning uh... unmarked vehicles and bastard pulling people over Well i was coming down the road and there was a pickup truck just an ordinary white pickup truck All of a sudden, it turned on lights and sirens but they weren't regular police lights. They were like coming out of the turn signal lights flashing blue and white and red and you know real light show going on

44:24 And I pulled over and let him go by. Then coming up the road towards me was another vehicle, it was just an old red Dodge and it had the same thing going with a siren going and all that... I don't know where they were headed! But they were obviously unmarked, had no special license plates. No uniforms on or anything like that and it just really puzzled me and then the comment you made about the unmarked white vehicles prompted me to call Well I'm glad you did to confirm that. People think we're seeing things but the fact of the matter is we are dealing with a secret police that has evolved into our society today and now we have to deal with never knowing who's going to jump out and point a gun at our face any minute. You know, a thought just occurred to me thanks to Ed it may have been a volunteer fire department

45:17 just because of what we know and obviously if you watch the shows, what we've shown in our shows You can never be sure. Everywhere you turn is a secret Gestapo that's forming It seems to me that way yes Well Caller are you saying this white truck pulled you over or it just went by? He didn't pull me over but he came on me real aggressively like get out of the way with your dead Yeah I would too But anyway, you know...

CHAPTER 12 / 22 Discussion

Fiber Optic Infrastructure and Biometric Surveillance

A discussion on the widespread installation of fiber optic cables leads to concerns about two-way surveillance through digital televisions. The hosts predict that future televisions will include built-in cameras for facial recognition and biometric identification, ostensibly for security or parental controls. They argue this infrastructure is being laid by "Big Brother" to monitor citizens in their homes under the guise of safety and convenience.

fiber optic· 1984· facial recognition· biometrics· digital television

45:57 Well, he does that and I have my suspicions about this fiber optic cable that's being laid all over the place. Right down south first right now. Well yeah, they started at the airport about a year and half ago And they've been putting it all over town I don't know what it is But it's an obviously a really big project that just gives me the willies every time I look at it for some reason Yeah, uh-uh get those same Willys well anyway thanks for your time Ed said he doesn't

46:42 Yeah, I really don't fear this at all. I'm sure it's totally for our safety. Well, I never told you to ever read the book 1984... No, no, I'm being sarcastic obviously. That thing about that fiber optic cable is they can see both ways. Right! I can't wait for it in my yard every television will be a camera every camera will be a television i'm afraid of that i think uh... when but they get you know what caller that brings to mind appointed day have made these old style televisions illegal to manufacture after a certain date coming up here real soon all our tete televisions are gonna have to be obvious new digital televisions yeah back in and i'm sure there'll be readily linkable to this new fiber optic system and

47:27 Of course they'll claim that they won't do it, but you know there will be people watching us in our homes. We're going to have to turn our televisions towards the wall when we're not watching them Yeah really? And watch out what you do with a wife on the couch Well uh... that's probably not a joke because like beware of biometrics Because most efficient and fastest form of biometric identification is facial recognition It's not thumb scan, it's not iris scan. It's facial recognition takes very little storage the algorithms are very fast and the cameras that they're putting up on the street corners to supposedly photograph cars running red lights Right but what they will be able to do easily is identify people

48:19 that are visible through the windows of the cars as they drive by. That's not just the driver, but any passengers in there also so if you can see their face, you can tell who is going where The other thing is these type of biometrics are being used increasingly for security For computers for example So that you don't need a password to sit down at your computer You have a little camera on there and it identifies you And of course, with all the pornography that is going to be available on these wide-band multi channel digital televisions I'm sure you'll need a facial recognition system there so that the kids can't circumvent this and watch dirty movies. So there's your camera. The cameras will be built into television sets

49:00 they will supposedly be uh... for identification purposes but uh... you know think what nielsen could do with that because they can see exactly which family members are sitting there watching and uh... if they're actually looking at the screen or playing video games And of course our loving and caring, wonderful warm fuzzy big brother will also be able to keep an eye on us in our homes. Well that's it Big Brother is laying his infrastructure right now... ...and you know I don't know if you or me are the only ones who know about it but its sure as obvious when we look around Oh there plenty people who know about this out there! Oh yeah Im glad some of them will stay underground until we need em

49:44 Well, I'll do all i can. That's all i can say. Well sir, thank you for calling and uh... You can help us also by calling in the dumbbel stations that never like to talk about this stuff and they may not give me the credibility To have something good to say like one of us will but you can always try well We all do what we can right? Well obviously you're an intelligent man and you're welcome to call the show anytime sir. Call back next week at 12 o clock. I apologize for my Frankensteinian voice. It's no problem, it's an interesting feature to the show, I appreciate your calling Alright well you'll have me again probably thanks Alright sir have a good night We got one minute Two way TVs now there is your TV hole Is that caller on? Go ahead go ahead caller

CHAPTER 13 / 22 Discussion

Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports and Local Corruption

A caller introduces the topic of Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFRs), citing Desi Andrews and Jeff Contreras. The theory suggests that local governments hold trillions of dollars in hidden assets while continuing to tax citizens unnecessarily. The segment also briefly touches on allegations of government-sanctioned biological and chemical spraying, referencing Freedom of Information Act documents and mainstream media reports.

cafr· desi andrews· taxes· actv· chemical spraying

50:35 I just wanted to bring up real briefly the CAFRs and according to Desi Andrews it would take maybe a year, maybe more just to be able to learn enough about it to talk about intelligently or in depth. And I think when people can see local corruption at that extent, then they're not going to think of these other things as so sci-fi. They're going to...they're gonna see that their taxes are being raised when these trillions of dollars have already been made off our taxes. Billions and billions. Let me ask you a question Carl Are you saying we have trillions of dollars in the coffers

51:22 let's say, in bonds and land and other features that we would not have to pay taxes for hundreds of years. And if they're sucking off us for no reason out here like with the property taxes, the school taxes, the sales tax and every other tax that they can think of just to keep us under their control? Is that what you're saying or are you saying something different?" If what Desi Andrews and what Jeff Contreras and what Chris Athenas, Jeff Contreras' producer of Therefore I Am have said is true or if it's close to true then yes. Yes, I do confirm what you're saying

52:02 Well, Alex had that guy on, the one who wrote some kind of book. I can't remember... Alex had that on his show a few months ago but it was only in one of Alex's shows he brought it up and then maybe later on he mentioned it briefly but It might, like Desi Andrews says take a lot of study and that's why Chris hasn't just come forth with it right away. He said he...he said he is just now getting into it and that he is going to come out with three episodes on not realityexpander dot com or maybe through that but he is gonna have them show on ACTV. Why is Carol if they have all that money then why is Carol Rylander seizing everybody's account I know?

52:45 You know what, I'd like to know the same thing but it's going to take not just a few of us but a lot of us and i'm one of the people that are interested in studying into this because i'm just sick and tired of these high-profile...I mean that goes..that shows you the extent of corruption. It's not just the elitist it's not just big government its bits while we're going to stay people who wanna associate their power and in feel like they are lead as well junior high mentality right cheerleader squad were better than you that i was never a for this tank okay thank you please reply i guess we'd better start your own bill that congressional bill but a lot of chemicals and camp trails is an extension

53:27 of that to be sprayed on us dot anyone looked into but people need to move believe that because it's true with the national bill that allowed the gov federal government to spread deadly chemical and i've even shown them at on a i'd even shown on my program where the history channel not only admits to the lsd Yeah, and current affair as well But history channel and current affair are mainstream press And they sit there and tell you how the how the government admits through freedom of information act documents about The biological spraying not just the LSD test which is the one that everybody thinks of right away? but the Biological sprays where deaths resulted. I'm a true believer can I call you after this tape we have We have to I want to get involved in this stuff Well hey man once come down to get a show

54:13 I'd like to maybe help you on your show first to get some experience and then maybe get my own come on down, dude Can you pick Lance up too? Okay, well talk later okay look for info wars.com look for Lance's show next Monday night at 12 o'clock. I'll call you after the show man are on channel 10. That's fine 430 tomorrow and we're going to this tape and god bless everyone. Okay here we go. Take care folks. Oh oh oh Watch out Alejima's top yeah here comes the people behind us. These cars license plates, black sedan here come several more vehicles um

CHAPTER 14 / 22 Discussion

On-Site Footage from the Gray Family Farm

Audio from a field report at the Gray property features descriptions of the scene, including signs referencing Psalms 91 and Jeremiah 10. The reporters discuss finding a surveillance camera in a tree and being targeted by a laser rangefinder from across the street. The segment includes interactions with local residents and mentions of Mark Kornke and Leland Plyce filling in for the first two hours of the broadcast.

mark kornke· leland plyce· trinidad texas· surveillance· field report

56:02 And there's also some news people out here as well. So this is kind of a wake up thing, just starts to break up minus the shooting at the VATF and I think we're about to break here now and when we come back We'll be able to give you some details. I went ahead and just drove through the night instead of doing the show live, I want to thank Mark Kornke and Leland Plyce for coming on the show performing for the first two hours. And we'll come back from this break with more details. Here's the time for people to back off so as I'm correcting Mike with his video camera getting shots of these signs that says there is a sign here on the front gate says disobedience to tyranny is obedience

56:42 Psalms 91, Jeremiah 10. The God giveth... the god of Freemasonry isn't the God of this Bible Wow! So some hardcore stuff here and they just want to be left alone. It could also be a range finder. Yeah. A laser range finder. Yeah. You have them drive all the way down or you come in halfway? Wherever you look. 10 adults and 7 children, and they pulled a camera out of the tree right off their property. And the feds were right across the street and shot a laser in my face in loving fashion when I was in the car with the window down doing the interview. It's just disgusting type activities it doesn't intimidate me this family has a right to not have a driver's license if they don't want one out here in the country trying to be left alone

57:47 We have a right to travel in this country and they're not going to kill them. They've been arresting them over and over again for it Think about it, only slaves don't have the right to travel! We are now inside, we brought our vehicles up by the house here on 47 acres They wanted to get us off the road out front there. And again, I just want to thank Genesis for the opportunity of having this show being able to have this free flow format and for the great folks providing live host Mark Kornke, Yankee Dee and of course Dave von Kleist for the first two hours of the program. I was out of contact my cell phone was cutting out wasn't sure even what was going on till i called from a payphone but we're getting good cell phone service here now a little bit better is Ted Anderson still there? Hey! Who is it

58:45 Who is it? Identify! Identify yourself, man. Get all this. Get all this. Who sent you?! Who sent ya?! Who sent ya?! Teresa? Pull up to the gate. Get all this Mike. I'm kidding you Alex.

CHAPTER 15 / 22 Discussion

Right to Travel and Opposition to Driver's Licenses

Alex Jones argues that the right to travel is a fundamental human right and that mandatory driver's licenses are a tool of federal control. He highlights that Texas licenses now require biometric thumb scans and laser scans, which he links to an executive order signed by Bill Clinton in 1993. Jones displays his own expired license, stating he refuses to participate in a system that treats citizens like "slaves" or "animals."

driver's license· bill clinton· biometric scan· social security· police state

59:52 Nope. No? Any news, babe? He said no! Alright... Go ahead. No more Waco's I mean that is why we rebuilt the church at Mount Carmel as a memorial for all those who died and finished up this year No more Waco's. I mean that is the bottom line, after the carnage we saw there in 93 and the mass murder by Delta Force it is time for this to stop in Central Texas now were just 50-60 miles away from Waco here in East Texas and you've got a family that I interviewed two years ago who are being harassed uh...by the locals for not having drivers license of free creature or free human being has a right travel without being controlled they feel government is corrupt and I agree with that

1:00:40 It's become a sport now to corner some family or corner of church and burn them out or kill them And they just want to be left alone. It's just that simple this family has a right To be left alone and live their life out here They never had criminal records until the police started waiting at the end of their street to arrest them every time They tried to go out buy some groceries, or go out to work Mr.. Gray builds houses I mean, this is disgusting. Three people have a right to be left alone and not to be cornered like animals for some modern gladiatorial sport! This is not the Circus Maximus. And I'm going to call for Americans all over the country to come here and defend these people non-violently, and say hey no more Waco's you're not gonna come in here strong armed corner another family, another community, another church call them kooks or whatever and then kill them this is America where you have a right to be free and believe as you wish and live your life! And they're doing that and there are seven children here one of them young as three months, the oldest seven ten adults and we're not gonna allow many Waco here

1:01:41 It's just that simple. So I would tell the federal government, who we know is orchestrating this as they always do... We've had a merger between the feds and the local police and state police to leave them alone! They'd been out here, followed us in when we came in, the police were driving down the road, they got some command center across the road over there When I was in my vehicle I got hit in the face by laser that they use for targeting a gun it may have been a rangefinder, I don't know but it came from vehicle over there covered in camouflage. Where does this all begin from? Where does it start? I mean... Two years ago, the Greys Began to be pulled over for not having driver's license and a lot of people don't want drivers license our drivers license in Texas are now federal check it out. You got a laser scan To get a driver's license At the DPS office, it's federal It's an executive order signed by Clinton in 93 people are against that I mean first social security cards Now its drivers licenses you have to thumb scan biometrically A lot of people were afraid of Big Brother And I personally am too! I've got a out-of-date driver's license

1:02:42 myself and I'm not about to get a new one. Alex Jones is not getting a new driver's license, and is it going to be me next when I can't get a bank account? When I can't work? When I can't live? Thank God I am self-employed as a radio talk show host! There it is... there's my There's my expired driver's license. This is the crime they've committed, this is why they're so evil? This how they got the Greys into the system and are now claiming all these other things and not showing up to court why that's a felony They can throw whatever they want at these people It all started two years ago when I started pulling them over and pulling their wife and child out of the car taking him to jail for not having ID

1:03:20 About five years ago I was walking down the road in Austin, Texas and a cop pulled up and said, ''I want to see your ID'' And I'm walking to the store. And I go... I don't have a criminal record. I don't have a license This isn't Nazi Germany! He gave me a ticket for it Which i beat in court This is America now today You can't walk down the street without somebody saying where's your id? I am not in Nazi Germany Honey come on Leave these people alone. And this time, media don't buy the propaganda of the establishment Don't allow them to butcher these people and I guarantee you this The American people aren't going to put up with it a second time Maybe that's what the feds want is some confrontation To make patriotism or freedom whether your liberal or conservative look bad

1:04:00 This is not a gladiatorial sport to corner a family like animals and encircle them slowly, and then lay siege to them and kill them. This is a precedent that's being set in America we've got to turn it back I don't want live in a police state And understandably the grays are concerned about the mainstream media I don't think it's paranoia at all. They tell me they've been smeared before because people just don't understand Americans have given up their rights, they don't think about it anymore and they've just been going along to get along with it. I say its time to say no to all of Big Brothers activities. You talk about every American family or every American here who are watching this

CHAPTER 16 / 22 Discussion

Historical Parallels to Nazi Germany and Civil Rights

The discussion draws parallels between current law enforcement tactics and the early stages of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. Alex Jones references the famous quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller regarding the consequences of failing to stand up for persecuted groups. He argues that the persecution of the Gray family for minor administrative issues is a precursor to a broader police state that will eventually target all Americans.

adolf hitler· nazi germany· martin niemöller· civil rights· persecution

1:04:38 listening to this and coming along. How do you, because it could...to some people this could sound totally outrageous like I can't imagine how this could happen but how do you explain that someone who has no idea what a place like this is all about? Well i've known the Grays for two years since their problem started we came out here an interviewed them for the radio and my television show in Austin and they were good people they just want to be left alone They're out here country folks and for Americans to say, well those people aren't like me. Well isn't that what Hitler said about the Jews? Those people aren't like me let's deal with them let's take them out lets mess with them oh let's make them carry IDs let's make him jump through our hoops and people will say well we have to jump into those hoops I ask you how free are you in America today

1:05:25 That's really the question I'm asking people. But, uh...I'm not concerned about the majority of people A lot of folks will say leave these poor people alone live and let live a lot of people say ah get them they're kooks because they like to feel good and better about themselves by putting others down i just said i saw a bunch children killed at Waco And I knew they could have picked Koresh up any day in town. And I saw federal agents die, and we watched all this unfold the military come in tanks and helicopters and they burn it to the ground We've got DPS officers that have come forward David Keyes had never gotten into a civil trial. We've got CIA people, Dr. Frederick Whitehurst former head of the FBI crime lab coming forward on Waco saying they manufactured evidence on the Davidians and covered up other evidence That's all there for your cameras to go check out

1:06:09 Waco was horrible. This is so close to Waco, how can I live in Austin and swear no more Wacos on the radio and then not drive up here? I found out about 530 today that this was happening went home you know put the toothpaste and yodeler at my bag and drove up here and Out here in the Texas heat to try to ensure that these people are not going to be butchered because it could happen To me next Who was the minister from Germany who said, first they came for the Jews and I did nothing because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the gypsies and I did nothing because I wasn't a gypsy. Then they came to the Catholics then they came for homosexuals... blah blah blah And finally when the Nazis came for me there was nobody left! Nobody left to stand up for me What's their crime? Can you turn your Jeep lights back on? No it's okay Alex Tom Well what in the new world order is this?!

CHAPTER 17 / 22 Discussion

Technical Details of Seized Surveillance Equipment

Reporters examine a seized digital wireless camera and transmitter found on the Gray property. The equipment is labeled "Property of Marble Falls, Texas" and "Covert Operations," with a P.O. Box in Austin. They record the VIN number (C2120) and note the presence of night vision capabilities. The hosts question why a small-town police department from Marble Falls is operating high-tech surveillance hundreds of miles away in Trinidad.

marble falls· covert operations· digital transmitter· vin number· night vision

1:06:58 this is a loving Mike please come over here and get all the date numbers and things in the VIN numbers on this piece of big brother. This is date received probably means when they got the federal grant at the DPS I've probably got one of these across street from my house that moved in 9 799 and I guess this is a remote camera it looks like you gotta be kidding no look right there we got the rest down there oh you've got the rest of it a transmitter and battery they are gonna move in here. we have all that in there oh you should have shown this to the media that's what we ask someone says if its not there boom! here you got a digital wireless camera ladies and gentlemen, and this is what they do families who just don't want to have drivers license or be thumb scanned This is how they handle it but their not worried about giving all the missile secrets to China

1:08:00 they can sell all the organs they want left and right kill people as much as they want but this is it night vision this is a property of core that's very important mike around earlier mike I need that vin number mike it's number c 21 20. number c 2120 property of core what does that core it's some federal program remember reading about it It's some anti-terrorism bill. Yeah, I don't recall but I've heard of it. Yeah, I've heard of it too...it's some anti terrorism You can't keep track all of it. They got terrorists at it on their own property wanting to be left alone. They probably want for tomorrow when they move in and get the footage of it For training This is all training for bigger and better

1:09:24 I think you need to put the alert on. I'm about to yeah, I need to quit screwing around Marble Falls, Texas. No we didn't get that. See property of Marble Falls Texas what the hell is that? Isn't that interesting...Marble Falls? We're in a small town of Trinidad in East Texas where my family's from and they have found a digital wireless camera quite large one by the way for marble falls from the governor's task force right here

1:10:05 in Texas watching the family. They've got a command center right across from a little field by some woods when I first pulled up and was talking on the air during my show doing live report Bill, thanks for having me up I was hit in the face by laser illuminator either from a gun or range finder and we saw police cars out there and feds driving around And it's really developing. And then something interesting happened, all the news media pulled up they've already been out here NBC 56 from Dallas came out actually from Tyler Texas Paul Michael Mueller reporter and told me that a Trinidad police officer told him they may move in in the morning

1:10:49 that they may move in at first light here in East Texas. And I'm inside their property, there's 70... There are 47 acres and my dyslexia coming out there Bill and they're just good folks that want to be left alone and wanna live their lives this all started two years ago for not having driver's license They're not a cult or just Christians that aren't gonna part of this national ID card big brother system That don't have to elaborate on for our listeners Was it hooked up though? Yeah, it was all hooked up. Really? We just kind of grabbed it and ran This is a woodland area in East Texas Oh what's that right there

1:11:34 pine trees and oaks. Covert! You name it, and Mike's now ramming my car here bumping into it with uh... Covert operations PO Box 340060 Austin Texas to the metal of the digital transmitter from the wireless camera they had aimed on their property from their command post. They have retreated back into the woods, their command post is out there they're talking about moving in in the morning Bill I can't talk about the enormity of this I'm here and staying here um...I'm tired playing games and I am tired people being pushed around to be treated like criminals when they are not and I swore no more Waco's it was happening right here my backyard only two hundred miles from home Austin Texas and I'm not going put up with

CHAPTER 18 / 22 Discussion

Mobilization of Patriots to Trinidad Texas

Alex Jones provides specific driving directions to the Gray family farm, located off Farm Road 274 and Highway 31 East near Trinidad, Texas. He calls for listeners and "patriots" to travel to the location to provide a non-violent presence and prevent a federal raid. He emphasizes that while supporters cannot enter the private property, their presence on the public road is essential for the family's safety.

farm road 274· highway 31· trinidad texas· militia· infowars

1:12:24 in the same area of East Texas that my ancestors came into in 1829. And we're not their property, we're not their slaves I wanted to give people the directions uh...to come here Of course for security reasons We can't let folks on the property but the road outside the house For support it is imperative that the listeners come here already some listeners have been here and have left quite a few people But we need people to come and we need people to stay It's off farm road 274 off highway 31 east. The nearby town is Trinidad and it's a little bit north of Waco about 45 miles near Corsicana, 31 East please write it down folks. 31 East Farm Road 274 and its 3 to 4 miles down farm road 274 you go down I'll tell ya what I can give these directions out better after the break Bill if you want

1:13:31 Texas off highway 31 east if you're going East on the highway, you will turn left at farm Road 274 again going East on Highway 31 You will take a left at Farm Road 274 we're talking about Trinidad the town of Trinidad outside the town of Trinidad in Central Texas right into the edge of East Texas We've also It's so you go down 31 East, you take Farm Road 274. Take a left three to four miles What's the name of that road or does it not have a name? Old River Road You take a left on old river road and it winds around its dirt road about a mile or two And right there on your right hand side you'll see a sign that says we are militia and also some other signs

1:14:26 that to talk about folks standing up in Zimbabwe versus on the front gate. They refuse to have driver's license, they refused to go into this national ID card system here in Texas they thumb scan us to get driver's license and they're putting in retina scanners in the banks it's a total control modus operandi This is a mini Waco 10 adults 7 children You've got the grandparents Mr. Gray Mr. Joe John Gray, and then you've got his sons and their wives... ...and then you've got the children, and of course Mrs. Gray And they're just good Texas people that want to be left alone in their 47 acres Oh by the way Bill, the local community's been wanting to buy their property or steal it for some so-called environmentalist sanctuary It's right off the Trinity River

1:15:14 So I'm gonna go ahead and let you go, and details will be up on InfoWars.com And I hope the feds don't come in here because it is a multi-jurisdictional task force that killed me and Mike Hanson Mike's right here, Bohemian Grove a few weeks ago Now this? It just never ends but we're going to fight and I've committed myself God bless you Bill and all the folks at Genesis Take care What are ya gonna do when you bond out? What are ya gonna do Joe if they come in here and try to come after your family? We're going to protect them until their death. We're gonna take out as many of them we can, and to me the New World Order... a lot of them are innocent people They're gonna use the innocent ones that come in on us I know that but you know it were all pointed once to die And none of us is for our deaths The officer that had the gun on him that day I told him he was shooting someone so bad go ahead shoot me

CHAPTER 19 / 22 Discussion

John Joe Gray on Self-Defense and Faith

John Joe Gray expresses his willingness to defend his family to the death against what he describes as the "New World Order." He recounts a confrontation with an officer where he refused to exit his vehicle despite being threatened with a gun. Gray frames his resistance as a God-given right to protect his family and property from an "enemy" system that enjoys inflicting terror.

john joe gray· new world order· self-defense· martyrdom· faith

1:16:18 He said, I will if you don't get out of the car. And so go ahead and shoot me! I just kept on telling him he wouldn't shoot me. But he knew it wasn't fair to die. Well that took the pleasure away that you didn't care? Yeah It's the terror they enjoy You know we're just gonna fight them till our death They keep coming We keep taking them out If we take em all out fine We'll take em all out Well their an enemy And as such you have a God given right To protect yourself and your family And God provided for that That's what it is all about, get up swiftly. Most definitely it is so perhaps its that time. Elizabeth go see if Jonathan has the key. Hi. She listens to you without fail. Nice to meet you Elizabeth. Nice to meet you too. Reach out and try and take a hand there you go. Great shot.

1:17:45 you gotta move really slow Mike we're in some dangerous, dangerous water and uh right over here is the jeep pretty nice oh this is a nice place boy can't beat it like a deer camp and the house it's a shame you can't just live your life

1:19:07 Mike, just so you know that outhouse isn't going to protect you buddy. If your gonna get video go ahead and step out I'll come over here. I'm getting video Alex don't worry about it. No really. Once we figure out how this works. If they come and try to kill the kids. They can pitch in front of us won't they?

CHAPTER 20 / 22 Discussion

Aftermath of the Standoff and Property Damage

The Henderson County Sheriff reportedly delayed a planned raid due to the arrival of several carloads of patriots. Footage shows a smashed surveillance transmitter on the Gray property, which the reporters joke was destroyed by an "imperial probe droid" or perhaps trampled by cows. The segment features brief interactions with the children on the farm, whom the reporters describe as healthy and happy "patriots."

msnbc· henderson county sheriff· surveillance transmitter· patriots· trinidad

1:19:50 Which way? The Sheriff of Henderson County was quoted the next day by MSNBC as saying they were planning to move in, in the early morning hours. Due to our presence there he backed off This is exactly the type of activities we see from more Americans Four or five carloads of Patriots showed up throughout the evening In the middle of nowhere on only about four hours notice From my radio show And as a result, the Gray family is still alive with their children. As well as the police officers, federal state and local that were going to storm the area Thank you for all you've done America we've averted a bloodbath Oh my god they tore it up Are they here? Look! An imperial probe droid destroyed

1:21:04 An imperial probe droid. The self-destruct. You look good, Alex! Yeah I bet I do you're joking? Running on six hours of sleep today. Now come over here man Wow what's this a spider? I'm not paying up to get them this one. I am, I am. Get me in there. Hey there. You are a cutie. Oh it was talking to me now

1:22:01 yeah did a nice job somebody's done a nice job on that must fall off an airplane. Yeah I think cows got into it you know I think they've gotten the hay into it all up well thats too good. Oh look! I heard them in there, the cows. The cows get trumpling everything down to getting that hay. You want make statement? Go ahead. Well during the night this

1:22:40 This transmitter for this wireless camera got smashed. It was on, pointed onto the Gray's property and you start reading this is a covert operations PO Box 340060 Austin Texas 78734 and there's the police phone number right there as well. Come on Mike let's move out. I'm out!

1:23:30 Oh cute. The littlest patriot, right winger. Wow really good stuff from television these are the evil right-wing terrorists we're dealing with. Holy do Hey puppy, you're a good little man. You alright, boy? He was still in the hole last night. American Red Dealer, I couldn't believe what I heard about that red dealer! You remember Chris Leonard at Fort Davis, don't ya'? Oh yes sir. He was clean first

CHAPTER 21 / 22 Discussion

Origins of the Conflict with Local Masons and Officials

John Joe Gray explains that his legal troubles began after he questioned a local Baptist preacher about his Masonic ring. He claims this led to harassment from County Commissioner Tommy Smith and the local judiciary. Specific grievances include the degradation of his road and a dispute over "stray law" where the District Attorney threatened to arrest Gray's wife for cattle rustling after she penned up wandering livestock owned by a local banker.

freemasonry· tommy smith· henderson county· stray law· cattle rustling

1:24:18 Mr. Gray, how did this all start a few years ago? It really started when I believe the Baptist preacher I noticed his ring and the fell on his tie, and a symbol. And asked him about it he said that he's a Mason. He needed to get me some literature so i could sign it and join up with him So I just asked if I would join anything and I took into it We got some literature on it Got to listen shortwave radio on it Found out there was a cult Some of the things they did Back at church and ask them if they did these things

1:25:23 He said, Joe you ain't supposed to know about these. I said well what's the cover of them? It must be a cult like they say Well that's what started it Next thing we was shined from the church People didn't have nothing to do with us and then road commissioners started giving us trouble and found out he was a mason Went to Commission Court Found out he was a mason How has the commissioner given ya problems? Well on about the roads They changed it to Orange Road instead of County Road See there was blacktop on that road at one time when I first moved here but they kept grading it down and now it's a dirt road. But the county judge took me and the wife in his chambers, there were some rattlesnakes he had stuff on his desk. He told us now...he don't know when this thing is going to strike

1:26:10 I said, we don't worry about them. We got what's called timber riders down there and we killed one blew his head off three and a half inches in diameter four foot long no problem he said well if you and your wife don't shut up about the road then the cattle come on your property down there The DA's gonna find charges against y'all. You ain't never heard of them before you ask the federal plan He told you this to your face? Yeah, he told us that just like that What's his name? Tommy Smith Yeah, he used to... County Commissioner Right In the county? In the county And then the name of this county? Henderson County Henderson okay That was when it really all started and then I didn't like the idea that a judge could just tell us this so I went to JP and they asked what can we do about it

1:26:54 She said, just get your letter stating what he has said to you. And sent him a certified registered letter and then uh... You have a record of that letter? Well we did have. Guy was running against Tommy I gave him a copy of it and he'd send them all over the county showing what Tommy was like Good But they didn't get in but so we give them that letter Then we were able go to commission court again See they didn't want us bringing up from commission court about this road and all this stuff We found out what's called stray law here in Texas because no livestock can roam on county property or even the road, or anything like that. And Damorello sent it to us. We wrote him asking what could be done with these cattle out here on the road and everything. It's a stray law. It was passed I think in 87 but they wouldn't recognize it in the commission court. They refused to recognize it because who owns land out here is the big guy that owns First National Bank of Athens

1:27:59 he went on to all that land 5,500 acres around this area but uh he got all up with this right here they don't have this and bill key i think what his name is but commission of court they just just dropped it when we got in the court well the thing was wife was out here tilting a fistful She's homeschooling over there and the sheriff and DA just pulled right up here, we had a couple of cows in the crowd there. We called the sheriff told him got a couple of cows that came in. We had bunch of ryegrass planted out there. We used to have this real neat all around here kept it green And then Sheriff came out here and DA said was gonna arrest my wife for cattle rustling if she didn't let those cows go

1:28:47 And stray law says you pin them up and call the sheriff, and he's supposed to get the party that owns the cows to pay for the damage. Well they wouldn't do that because who owns a cow? But DA was threatening to arrest my wife for cattle rustling. When you called him? Yeah They came out the next day So the wife went and explained what cattle rustling was The DA didn't like it a bit I told him no, that made me mad. And we tell them she has right to bare arms on her property and all. Oh they were saying something about her gun? So DA says not in this county do we allow women carry guns even on their own property Which is just ridiculous. Yeah The sheriff told me I could wear a gun That's tough isn't it? Well he didn't do it, I don't need your permission This is our nightmare

CHAPTER 22 / 22 Discussion

Rejection of the International Banking System

The discussion concludes with a critique of the modern economic and legal system, which John Joe Gray characterizes as the "Antichrist Satan System" controlled by international bankers. A final caller offers to provide documentation on various topics, including the Waco siege and City of Austin property taxes, for future broadcasts. The hosts encourage the caller to start his own program on ACTV to further explore these issues.

antichrist· international bankers· freedom· tool texas· actv

1:29:39 Yeah, he hit a cow down here. I'm sorry go ahead sir you were talking about the stray law they're not enforcing it They came from Dan Rallis too and I give JP and the courts Commission court and all copy of it now we're defining in the law books never So that's when we started decided as best not to go to their courts stay out there for a system because we couldn't win any It just always strikes against us Not much. They take the law and twist it, and do what they want to with it. Selectively enforce... We look at this system where they wanna force people to be able to get a license, to get a bank account, to get a job, live their lives. If you're on the phone continue to hold, we'll continue after the show. What's bad about this system? Why would you wanna not be apart of it? Because its no God's system, It's the Antichrist Satan System

1:30:42 His system was set up under freedom, not to be under bondage. People are enslaved and they don't know it. You gotta get up first thing and pay the dues of international bankers. That's all there is too it. Unless you live free for a while then you don't know what freedom is. I've always been self-employed. Most of my jobs, contracts was purple. It wasn't written and it was a misunderstanding I started to make it right. But the new world order is coming about and all it is is international bankers control the world

1:31:27 That's not says it all and We're gonna we're gonna let the caller come on because he wanted to say a few more things, okay Lance yeah If you get me on your show lamps with my physical presence visualized or kept concealed, I will help you consume a full hour and half with the multitude of hot topics and information and documentation to back it all up. My topics include anything and everything from the government siege at Waco and the Gray family in Tool Texas to light rail CAFRs and City of Austin property taxes and all federal state local taxes but i will need an answer from you

1:32:17 Okay, well listen all you gotta do is here's the thing caller what what you need to do What you need to do collar is get your own show down I know he wants to continue it on but he wants to help me out to kind of get To feel it out and then again and then get your am. I right we're always needing help now hello Are you here? Hello? Hello, are you there can you hear me hey can you hear us? Oh Hello? Can you hear him? Hello? Hello. Hold on, here he is. Try that one more time. Hello! Hey are you there? Is anybody out there? Yeah dude are you there? I said I'd call back after the show. Why can't he hear us? Did you pull him out right here? No Are you there Lance? Yeah man we're here just hold on Why isn't he hearing us Well i don't know if you heard my offer earlier but if you did

1:33:24 Take it seriously because it's the last chance you're gonna get from me. If you can accept such an offer. If you are willing to accept such an offer. Hey, are ya there? Hey, there you go! You couldn't hear us?! I don't understand how come he can't hear us.