Thursday, 22 April 2021

How To Create Wealth and Happiness with E. A. Csolkovits

A self-made millionaire reveals the behavioral science of discerning givers from takers to protect your family, finances, and personal happiness from parasitic relationships.

By The Jonnie Jensen Show | 1h 9m listen | 18 chapters
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About this episode

Serial entrepreneur E.A. Csolkovits joined Jonnie Jensen on the Team Superdad podcast to reveal how he achieved millionaire status by age 23 before facing a total financial collapse in 1989. Csolkovits, the founder of Givers University, details his journey from working as a 16-year-old janitor in Addison, Illinois, to managing organizations with tens of thousands of employees. The discussion centers on the 'be, do, have' philosophy and the critical role of mentorship in navigating business betrayals and personal defeats.

Csolkovits outlines the behavioral symptoms of 'Takers,' who represent 20% of the population and extract value spiritually and financially from those around them. He recounts a pivotal moment involving a voice-actuated answering machine that recorded a business partner's plot to seize his company, leading to a strategic buyout that saved his career. The narrative includes historical references to McDonald's pioneer June Martino and her belief in Ray Kroc, alongside Csolkovits' own experiences as the son of a Chicago milkman at Twin Oaks dairy. He advocates for a 'Givers and Takers Awareness IQ' to protect family productivity and mental health from the destructive habits of takers.

E.A. Csolkovits shares the wisdom of his 40-year marriage and his 45-year tenure in the health and nutrition industry to illustrate that happiness must precede wealth. He and Jonnie Jensen explore the 'F5' framework of focus, fitness, finance, family, and fun, emphasizing that every thought carries a specific cost. The segment concludes with a call for fathers to join the Hero Academy and adopt the 25 deeds of givers to foster resilience and intellectual control over emotion.


CHAPTER 01 / 18 Discussion

Team Superdad Podcast Introduction, E.A. Csolkovits Guest Feature

Jonnie Jensen introduces the Team Superdad podcast, focusing on the "F5" framework of focus, fitness, finance, family, and fun. The episode features 64-year-old serial entrepreneur E.A. Csolkovits, who achieved millionaire status by age 23. Jensen highlights the Hero Academy program and coaching services available for fathers seeking to improve their lives and parenting.

team superdad· jonnie jensen· e.a. csolkovits· hero academy· dad coaching

00:00 In this episode of the Team Superdad podcast, I talk creating health wealth and happiness with 64 year old serial entrepreneur mentor and dad E.A Csolkovits. Roll theme! Welcome to team super dad real dads creating their best lives ever more time more money more fun you are not alone your on Team Super Dad Hey dads, welcome welcome welcome to the Team Superdad podcast. It's great to have you back here if it's your first time well...

00:37 Well, thanks for finding us. I don't know how but i'd love to know actually probably search properly well fact a referral that would be lovely to know it'll be lovely to know that people are referring and recommending the podcast and for our regular listeners It's a real pleasure to have you back here with us This is the midweek episode of The Team Superdad Podcast where we speak To someone especially as an expert Someone who's been successful, has life experiences in an area of the F5. That is focus, fitness finance family and fun These are the five elements that run right through the Team Superdad community through our Hero Academy program In fact everything we do is all about those five elements to creating the life that you desire so you can be the man you want and the dad your family needs

01:26 And well, EA. He is no exception to this the guy is an absolute... Well he's a beast really! He's done so many things. He was a millionaire at the age of 23 first year of personal income exceeding $1 million was in 1989. He owns 1000 acre wildlife sanctuary. He's a commercial pilot, a black belt second degree black belt. Is advanced paddy certified scuba diver it's like The guy is just a machine, right? He's an author. Some of his companies, a couple of them in his bio he had team of over 33 000 members of staff and so you know he talks about health wealth and happiness which if you are a regular listener to the podcast you would have seen that that is

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03:06 And so, you know when I first set this up. So, Jonnie Jensen. If this is of interest to you, and I hope it is then please share it. Please subscribe to the podcast or to any other channels, The Team Superdad channels. The best way to get involved with those is if you go to teamsuperdad.com forward slash network You can get the invite to our free group and through all the information that comes out through our different channels to the different members

04:01 If you're a dad looking for Dad Coaching, then that's available at the website. You can chat to me about that whether it's about breakups, whether it's about parenting, whether it's about just really feeling happier in your life and taking control of the areas that are important to you then we do that I do that one-on-one or we do that in The Hero Academy It really is great to have you listening! I know you're gonna love this episode and I'll see you on the other side A. Good to see you, sir! Thanks for joining us today. My pleasure Jonnie. Thank you for having me on your spectacular podcast really thank you. Ah well appreciate you saying that I'll ask again at the end. Okay I'll say it too, I'll say it. That's always a test.

CHAPTER 02 / 18 Discussion

E.A. Csolkovits Background, Marriage Longevity and Happiness

E.A. Csolkovits shares his personal background, noting his 30 years in the Chicagoland area before moving to Michigan. He discusses his 40-year marriage and three children, reflecting on the realization that happiness should precede wealth rather than follow it. He admits to facing significant personal defeats despite his professional success.

chicago· michigan· marriage· happiness· serial entrepreneur

04:52 A. Csolkovits, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, I also saw some of the failures that you've had in those areas. And that's such a powerful thing to share today with the Team Superdad community is, it's just as not just inspiration but also education as a man with your level of experience can bring to the table. Tell us just on a practical level are you a dad? Where are you at? How's life right now for you?

05:41 Yes, I'm 65 years old. My first 30 years was in the Chicagoland area, the greater area of Oak Brook for those that might be familiar with the Greater Chicagoland Area and then moved to Michigan 35 years ago which is where i'm at now and have three children that have grown up on their own and been married 40 plus years 40 years. Well done, sir! Happy? I've already prepped this question so i'm okay to ask it but they were happy... They are still our happy years correct? Well and there's the difference you know and we were talking before the show you know I set out in life that I wanted to be rich and happy and I didn't realize I headed backwards

06:27 A. Csolkovits. It's backwards. We're supposed to be happy first and learn how to be happy and live happy first, then all those things will get added to us as a result of that. I had to learn through my defeats that even though I still maintain my marriage and am doing great and happily married, there were many challenges along the way in my personal life and my defeats in my personal life A.

CHAPTER 03 / 18 Discussion

Mentorship Lessons on Wealth, Self-Worth and Enrollment

A discussion on the "be, do, have" philosophy explores how internal state dictates external results. Csolkovits recalls a mentor's advice that earning a million dollars is easy compared to the difficulty of believing one is worthy of it. The conversation touches on the difference between traditional selling and enrolling others into a vision for their lives.

millionaire· mentorship· self-worth· sales· vision

07:22 A whole subject that I've heard at different courses and programs, I've been involved with. But they talk about we get taught and encouraged to when we have something, we can do something which means we can be something but exactly what you're saying is we can be happy whatever our circumstances are then we can do things and then we can have something Thanks for watching. That's for sure. And what you say is right on the money, my business mentor shared with me he said that because I told him I wanted to be a millionaire and earn $1 million in a year and he taught me how to do just that. His words were profoundly accurate. He said let me tell you will find out that earning 1 million dollars will be one of the easiest things you've ever done. The most difficult will be believing your worth it

08:37 And I found that to be 100% accurate. Well, I know that from sales. You know making sales calls and rolling people into something rather than some selling you something. I'm enrolling you into a vision I've got for your life without products. Yes yes Without believing that there's no the conversations is dead in the water before it even starts So true, so true. And I found that to be exactly the way he said it in retrospect because cliches are cliches because they're usually true not always but usually and certainly hindsight is perfect vision in many ways and uh... Because of the defeats in my life I was able to learn while being mentored that there's a critical part today

CHAPTER 04 / 18 Discussion

Givers University Philosophy, Discerning Deeds Over Labels

The concept of Givers University is introduced, centered on the tagline "Givers Earn More Because Givers Discern More." Csolkovits emphasizes judging the specific deeds of individuals rather than labeling the people themselves. This discernment helps individuals decide whom to pull closer into their lives and from whom to respectfully distance themselves to reduce life stress.

givers university· discernment· stress management· relationships· deeds

09:26 A. What about if he's not doing it right? What do we do then?" And so, we have sort of a tagline that we use. It is called Givers Earn More Because Givers Discern More and I can share the following reference with your listeners. I'm going to ask them to think about this for a minute. Think about the fires in your life that you're stomping out. Think about the increased stress points in your life

10:25 The A. How to discern. A.

11:25 I'm referencing the deeds of that person, not the person themselves. So I don't want people to think we're labeling people because we're not! We love everybody but we teach people how to discern what are those things Jonnie? What are those things that when we see these specific kinds of deeds... Not nebulous innocuous deed and just these broad swathes people talk about but specific things. What are the things i should look for And when I see these deeds, I may want to pull this person closer into my life as a part of the giver's community around me. If I see certain other specific deeds, maybe I should consider respectfully distancing myself

12:11 A. What should he be discerning? Because there are ways where he doesn't have to be in that fire and stomping it out. But no one's teaching us how to discern! Got that. So, and by deeds we're talking about things that people do. Exactly! Yeah yeah so just to kind of give some context to this is where you're at now as part of the teaching that you do it they give us university is these are like this is I mean we're talking about your career and your learning going back in Chicago

CHAPTER 05 / 18 Discussion

Career Highlights of E.A. Csolkovits, Health and Nutrition Business

Jonnie Jensen summarizes the extensive career of E.A. Csolkovits, including his role as Chairman of House of Holland Jewellers at age 21 and his 45-year-old health and nutrition business. Csolkovits hosted a nationally broadcast talk radio show five nights a week and managed organizations with tens of thousands of employees. These experiences form the foundation of his teachings on success and human relations.

house of holland jewellers· radio host· nutrition business· chicago· leadership

13:13 A millionaire by 23, 21 something like that. Here we go yeah you had a mentor Sam Robbins we'll talk about mentorships and a bit later on but I just want to understand this where what your teaching us here today has been formulated on the basis of some sort 48 years worth of work and success. You founded and ran organizations with tens of thousands of members of staff, you've formulated a health and nutrition business which has successfully run for over 45 years

13:58 Chairman of the House of Holland Jewellers at 21. Hosted a talk radio show I've heard across the USA for five nights a week It goes on and on. The many thousands of people you've had work for you, the countless number of mentors business advisors peers that you've worked for at a very high level and so when you're saying we and we formulated this thing called give us university what it takes to be successful in life is about how much you given how you relate to other people

14:37 This comes from an incredibly deep basis of knowledge and experience. You're not just some A. Csolkovits, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen Many people may have started a business and it might not be going quite as well as they want it to, or even they've got married and it's not going quite as well as they wanted. So you know what we're gonna get stuck into here is about the inner dialogue and the outer actions that can lead to the kind of success that we all desire – the health wealth and happiness

CHAPTER 06 / 18 Discussion

Givers versus Takers, Behavioral Symptoms and Relationship Dynamics

The discussion defines "Takers" as the 20% of the population who consistently extract value spiritually, mentally, and financially from any situation. Csolkovits uses a medical analogy, comparing observable behaviors to symptoms that reveal the underlying "cause" of a person's character. Proper discernment is presented as a tool to protect one's productivity and family life from "unwilling collateral damage" caused by takers.

takers· givers· behavioral symptoms· productivity· emotional health

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16:19 Conversely, on the other side of the Grand Canyon is what we call The Takers. Remember we're not labeling people, we're labeling the deeds of people and 20% of the population are also takers that means you put them in any situation and within a short period of time they will figure a way of taking from it spiritually mentally monetarily financially emotionally and it's those parts that cause challenges and friction in life A.

17:11 Everyone knows those symptoms can be a sign of having a cold. The cold is the cause, so what we do is we look at the symptoms and say identify these symptoms that people are doing and then from those you can determine the causal of that person And then from that, you can discern do I want them closer in my life or am about ready to become unwilling collateral damage that will increase my stress level straight up. My productivity will go through the floor and I'm going to carry that over and bring it home to my family and everyone else? A.

18:03 Does a lot of unhelpful judgment fall into play when we're reacting to those kind of people? Do we make poor decisions in those situations? You used the perfect word, Jonnie. The perfect word! See that's why you have such a great podcast. That's it. When you said the word reacting to those things that's exactly right example In the medical community, if someone's given a prescription or drug or something. If they say they're reacting to the medication that's negative right? It's not working for them. Uh if they're responding to the medication it's working for him, it's helping them so when you said the word reacting you nailed it! You were like Robin Hood split the arrow with the arrow and because that's exactly what happened when people respond to instances

18:55 B. The New York Times. And when we discern and we observe in our awareness level, first of all most people don't even have that. It's because it is not being taught you know what? Our lives are so fast today Jonnie. Businesses coming and closing and opening faster than ever before. Products coming and going and being antiquated faster than ever before So what do we have left? Our relationships! And no one is teaching us how to discern who do you want to have close to you

CHAPTER 07 / 18 Discussion

Givers and Takers Awareness Quiz, Givers University Resources

Csolkovits promotes a free seven-question quiz available at giversuniversity.info to help listeners determine their "Givers and Takers Awareness IQ." The site provides a checklist of "25 Do's" for givers to help guide discernment in new relationships. Jensen confirms he has taken the quiz and includes the link in the show notes for the Team Superdad community.

giversuniversity.info· awareness quiz· discernment checklist· free resources· personal growth

19:36 So that your happiness level and productivity and your family life, all those things go up. D. David Valle And just for people that want to get an idea of this for their own life, like practically speaking. Rather than wait till the end of the podcast I'd like to put this up front you've got a questionnaire that people can go and get personalized sort of results that people can go and get for free correct? Yeah absolutely it's actually seven question quiz

20:31 Q. What is your Givers and Takers Awareness IQ? A. The beginnings of discernment. The Givers 25 Do's.

21:41 And what are those 25 things? And we give it, right. We'll give it right to your listeners they can and it's a great checklist and they look at it say wow this is... They immediately start saying you know I never thought about looking at that before and I can use this right now as part of my discernment with people I meet. One sec. Not yet then tell Jay go too! Okay, we'll come and bake a cake in a second. My daughter wants to bake a cake so I said yes we can bake a cake. And what was your address again? No, I'm over! It's a podcast called Team Superdad so... Your dad! Of course that's great.

22:32 It's www.giversuniversity.info, and when they go there they're actually on the first quiz already so it's that fast! They go right through it and then we want to give them real nuggets as a benefit from your podcast Jonnie Applicable things, not just this nebulous innocuous talk that sometimes they hear in trainings and stuff. You know what do I do now that I heard all this? And as my business mentor says you know he learned all that but you hope the window stays closed because the second windows days open the breeze comes through and blows it all away because there's nothing tangible there so we want to get... This is something you can use it's a checklist look for these dos and it'll help guide you with that discernment

23:24 A. The link is in the show notes. It's absolutely totally free, I've just filled it in the other day so I'm just starting to get my info coming through and we love to share that sort of stuff at Team Superdad you know? Flipping EA hasn't paid to be on here! This is literally a great guy who are really keen to have on the Team Superdad podcast to be of value to our listeners and viewers So yes, so what you just mentioned there leaving that dangling tantalizingly in front of us for a man who's had as much success as you have. Also your from Chicago... well you started your story in Chicago I mean yeah my call it my second city my second home because of how much family I've got there and how much time I spent there but my uncle Pat he's got like a fabulous baker boy story his family is from Ireland so he's first-generation Irish

24:25 B. New York. A. O'Connor

CHAPTER 08 / 18 Discussion

Early Life in Chicago, Milkman Upbringing and Janitorial Work

Csolkovits reflects on his upbringing as the son of a milkman who operated Twin Oaks dairy in Chicago. He describes the era of glass milk containers and the high level of community trust regarding money boxes. At age 16, he worked as a janitor in Addison, Illinois, feeling "burnt out" while cleaning bowling alleys in the early morning hours.

chicago· twin oaks dairy· janitor· addison illinois· work ethic

25:12 But yeah, these failures can... I've got so many questions actually. I need to get a hold of my thoughts really as I'll come back to something about giveusuniversity.info in a second but these failures you alluded to moments ago many people will not start business because they're scared of failing They have an idea that's in their mind A. Csolkovits, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen

26:00 Tell us about those and share some of the lessons that you've learned from those failings. And when you say seismic, I almost feel like they're being diminished. They were that big! At the time they felt like whoa... Really just to digress on that thought my father was a milkman in Chicago he had a distribution for dairy it's called Twin Oaks A. One-man operation, and back in those days Jonnie they had a box outside the house and milk came in glass containers and the people put their money in the box! And everyone knew there was money in the box no one touched it they just knew that was for the milk man you know? The milk went in and then the money came out and he had his own little route his own little distribution so I said I knew you could have your own business but

26:53 A. Csolkovits. A. What? Anyway, so here I was as a son of a milkman and then I became a janitor and worked for a janitorial service in Addison Illinois which you're probably familiar with. Suburb of Chicago is where the janitorial service was

27:46 A. A. A.

28:43 The A. Csolkovits. A.

CHAPTER 09 / 18 Discussion

Ray Kroc and June Martino, Mentorship Inspiration from McDonald's

The story of June Martino, an early McDonald's employee, illustrates the power of believing in a leader. Martino accepted "worthless" company stock in lieu of a salary because she believed in Ray Kroc, eventually becoming extremely wealthy. This story inspired Csolkovits to find his own mentor, leading him to meet Sam Robbins shortly after.

ray kroc· june martino· mcdonald's· stock options· sam robbins

29:44 And she told me about, and they reference it in the movie of a time where Michael Keaton as the founder is Ray Kroc realizes they're running out of money because he doesn't have enough percentage coming in off their franchises. He has to call the brothers. That's a true story that part did happen and she said Ray couldn't afford to pay me so we made a deal that he would take my bill collector phone calls keep the donors away from me and in exchange he would pay me in company stock in The Worthless Company A. Csolkovits.

30:31 A. Csolkovits, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, But the way she said it, when I asked her why did you do it? Why'd you work for this company getting worthless stock and not making money. Not get paid. Her answer to that question was because I believed in Ray. And my first instant thought Jonnie was, I got to find me a Ray Kroc. I've gotta find a Ray Kroc that I could believe in, that could mentor me, that could teach me because

31:25 I'm a burnt out janitor, son. And at 16 years old, I'm already burnt out as a janitor and my big time of the week is getting free songs in a jukebox cleaning our bowling alleys at two in the morning! That's my fun you know so wait... So I need to find me a Ray Kroc and it wasn't 2 or 3 months later that I found my Ray Kroc Wow that was Sam Robbins yeah exactly. In the world we live in today The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, E. A. Csolkovits.

CHAPTER 10 / 18 Discussion

Overcoming Fear of Failure, Resilience in Business and Marriage

The conversation addresses the common fear of failure that prevents people from starting businesses. Jensen and Csolkovits discuss how "temporary defeats" contain the seeds of future success, citing personal experiences with failed businesses and heartbreaks. They emphasize that pushing through these feelings is essential for growth in fitness, finance, and family life.

failure· resilience· divorce· business loss· mindset

32:07 But it's still possible. Do you think it is still possible to inspire someone with more experience than you, to be your mentor? To be that accountability? To be that advisor? Well, it's one of the things you're doing with your great podcast! A. A.

33:06 Yeah, and I appreciate you saying that. Thank you! And that's why we have the F5 Focus Fitness Finance Family & Fun is that they're not individual pieces that you can pick and choose from You know, if we're going to achieve happiness in our life and some people might say we don't need money to be happy. We covered that bit already but I think it's Jim Rohn said uh money is not everything but it's right up there with breathing you know my dad says to me you know son whatever whatever's going on make sure you're having fun and uh and and that's that's an attitude as well and that's a way of being

33:49 People do get lost in all this right now, working so hard to create happiness failing to realize that their wife is falling out of love with them and the kids don't even know them. You know that's not happiness. Way too much today way too much today Yeah yeah but um but the idea that we can have it all I get really frustrated when people say well that's ridiculous you can't have it all A. A.

35:05 Don't be afraid of the temporary defeats because those temporary defeats bring those seeds with them and those are the things we build on. Yeah, so true! I wouldn't be where i am today doing what i'm doing if i hadn't been through two businesses that have had moments of success but ultimately failed a marriage that started amazingly but ended up in pain and heartbreak Even fitness, you know. You work hard and then you get injured, you know? What does that mean? You're never gonna run again? Um...You might just learn that you need to stretch properly at the end of it And I know from the dads in in the community and dads I've coached people who work with this idea of oh I want to start something but I'm so worried It's going to fail. I feel that as well. I'm not here is some Jedi guru Who doesn't have those feelings

36:01 But we have to push through them. We absolutely have to push through them and as someone who's founded and run a multitude of successful businesses, how do you keep going? You had to learn this right? You had to learn that failures are just the stepping stone to success but there...you had to learn that along the way so what were some of the breakthroughs you had in overcoming A. When I share this little clip with you, informationally. I'm going to ask you what are the odds of this happening because I know you're gonna be astonished because I was as it was happening years ago they had a thing on the desk when before voicemail was digitized and you might have had one too but it was a machine that sat on the desk and on the left side was a cassette tape and that was my outgoing message

CHAPTER 11 / 18 Discussion

Answering Machine Recording, Business Betrayal and Bankruptcy

Csolkovits recounts a "seismic" event where his voice-actuated answering machine accidentally recorded a 60-minute conversation between his business partner and a third party. The recording detailed a plan to systemically take over his company. Following his mentor's advice to keep emotions in check, Csolkovits forced a buyout without revealing the recording; a year later, the former partner was bankrupt while Csolkovits' income had doubled.

betrayal· cassette tape· business partner· bankruptcy· chicago

37:01 B. And when I left home, I would turn the thing on and when I came home if there was messages the red light would be bleeping. Then I would play back my messages right? A voice recorder basically it was an actual machine. It wasn't a digital... The classic answer phone yeah! Yeah exactly exactly. While being mentored separate from that i owned a training company in this greater Chicagoland area and had a partner with 50% Partners. The company was doing very well we were doing trainings for other companies other firms And I left home for about an hour and a half. I came home, and my 60 minutes of messages was used up! And I thought oh my god... Because you know, because my machine was voice actuated so that means as long as someone's talking it'll keep recording. So some kids got ahold of it because the kids did that sometimes and they were just playing and left messages Wow! Was I in for an awakening? The gentleman that called when I had left home

38:03 A. The tone in the background that someone was calling him while he was leaving me this message on my voice machine. Well, when he answered the phone, he hit his receiver so fast and said hello! He put my machine on recording with him and this other person... ...and recorded the whole conversation! That way- wait wait! That's only part of it. A good idea. Conversation for 60 minutes

39:01 And what was weird was the conversation was almost exactly 60 minutes, how much room I had on the tape. They talked about step by step what they were going to do to take me out of the picture and systemically take over the company. Wow! I have to tell you it's something else... Jonnie when you hear it in their own words it adds a new dimension than hearing at third party A. I thought, man what am i gonna do? And I listened to it again and I thought... because the first thing was just disbelief. How could I even be hearing this?! I'm hearing his own words Jonnie! So there's no deniability or anything and now so I thought oh well I've got to listen What did my mentor teach me? One of the things he taught me was don't allow my emotions to rule my intellect right? We should have emotions That is gold. Not just for business

40:17 R. E. B. C. A.

40:54 I met him the next day and said, Jim you have to buy me out. We've got seven days and we're going to do something with my business mentor. We need to reach an agreement. I'm leaving. You need to buy me out which immediately ruined all of his plans. It stopped it all. And it was true that I did want to do something with my business partner so it was accurate but I just didn't expect right at that very moment And I did get a couple of payments on the deal and I thought each payment was a gift when i got it. You know, you really didn't expect it because I already knew what kind of person he was and do you know? I never ever ever told him that recording happened! I never told him

41:30 And about a year later, maybe little bit more I saw him at an amusement park and I knew it was him. I mean, I know who he was and he didn't see me but because there's little bit of distance but I was clear it was him. And I had already heard that in one years time Jonnie you had filed for personal bankruptcy bankrupted the company, had gotten divorced and when I was looking at him he looked like he aged 20 years and yet in that next year my income doubled D. Defeatism, E. Disruption, F. Destruction

CHAPTER 12 / 18 Discussion

Delayed Gratification and Intellectual Control Over Emotion

The discussion highlights the importance of delaying gratification to increase long-term returns, referencing June Martino's calculated risk with McDonald's stock. Csolkovits warns against letting emotions rule the intellect, especially when dealing with "takers" who demand upfront payment and immediate results. Success is framed as being as much about "how you are being" as "what you are doing."

delayed gratification· emotional intelligence· decision making· investment· mindset

42:19 D. E. S. B. The Giver's Mindset. A. The 25 Do's

43:08 The There is practical stuff here. This is a nice conversation with me and EA, but this is practical actionable information because the idea of how do you get success? How do you create success? It's as much about how your being as what your doing and these things that EA sharing with us are exactly that it's how we're being in our business and in our relationship that makes the difference. Thank you for saying that when we reach the point when

44:01 We are no longer able to say, how do I do that? Because the answer is self-evident. We're at the point we're at the actionable thing because up until then with so many things we hear today and everyone's teaching self improvement and i mentioned you know i love it i love self improvement hour a day and i'm and i know you do too Jonnie and and i'm sure many of your listeners do but we need to learn and teach our children also how to discern D. David Valley

44:48 They're always now, now, now. Pay me up front! You need to pay me before I go to work. I need to have everything now and I need it upfront and they're not able to delay their gratification in order to increase their returns. Think about the June Martino story. She was a classic giver. Why? She delayed her gratification...not getting paid right?...and got paid in a worthless stock But then she was worth more zeros than I had fingers and toes because she got increasing returns. Another one is... Oh sorry, one second! There's an important piece in there as well that she didn't just make that decision on the fly someone she didn't know someone she didn't have faith in there was a level of

45:34 E. Yes, don't let your emotion literally control your thought process or your intellect. So she did make that decision but deliberately based on what she knew of Ray, what she'd seen of him in action She didn't like go at it a whim like oh I'm desperate for money, she was like a calculated decision for her still a risk but there was a level of emotion A.

CHAPTER 13 / 18 Discussion

The Cost of Thoughts, Giver Values and Resilience

Csolkovits asserts that every thought has an associated cost and that givers should "enjoy the price" of their efforts rather than just paying it. He advises that while givers may be taken advantage of, they are never diminished if they stay true to their values. Maintaining a positive outlook after being mistreated attracts like-minded individuals and new opportunities.

values· mindset· advantage· attraction· recovery

46:44 A. Csolkovits. That's the whole statement. So a giver is willing to do what is necessary, they're willing to... and it's not about paying the price. Everyone tells us you gotta pay the price? No, you don't have to! You can enjoy the price when you have the right mindset, you can enjoy the price, you don't have to pay it. Everything in life has a cost associated with it. Everything does there's nothing that doesn't there are no exceptions to that and everything we think every thought we think has a cost

47:28 A. So those are just even two of the morsels that are on the 25 checklist. Yeah, yeah and I guess a statement like or question like what's in it for me? That will tell you straight away that second point you just brought there exactly and with that we also right on your point Jonnie when a person says well its just business I start running from them right then because what they actually said to me was...I don't care what I have to do to take advantage of you

48:17 A. The What you gave may be from another person, maybe from another circumstance or another event in your life totally unrelated to the person that took advantage of you. So when you're a giver people will take advantage of you expect it but you are never diminished because they did yeah that's like being true to your values I believe this and i talk about this is being true to your values and trusting

49:07 That honouring those values will continue to attract people who share those same values towards you. So rather than falling on your sword and decide, okay well I've been treated bad i'm going to start treating people bad... I can see what you just said there is accept it clean it up the way that you feel is right and appropriate but then move on expecting good opportunities to come from that mess rather than It's the end of the world, nothing good is ever going to happen again. So I guess he's going back to the point earlier about when we fail it's not a failure it's just an opportunity and that's just the next opportunity coming our way. Exactly right! And if I can share my second major defeat with you I'd love too.

CHAPTER 14 / 18 Discussion

1989 Business Collapse, Limousines and Taker Destruction

In 1989, at age 33, Csolkovits experienced a massive financial peak followed by a total collapse. He describes owning a limousine and having a full-time valet before a "taker" president destroyed the company. He explains that takers inherently carry the "seed of their own destruction," which eventually led to the loss of his planes and luxury lifestyle.

king midas· limousine· corporate collapse· collateral damage· 1989

50:02 So here I am, 1989. 1989! The thing is that if someone says that date right? I'm 47 now right so someone said that date in my mind it's kind of like oh yeah i remember that and then go now oh my gosh that was 20... You know what gets me Jonnie? Is I hear on the radio and they say we hope that you liked our visit with the classics on the radio here and I'm going I knew all the words to that song When did I become a classic? That's not an old me. Yeah, that's at school! Five years ago... Exactly right so i was 33 years old 1989 and what I'm about ready to say Jonnie is not to be braggadocious to any of your listeners but to simply edify how fast things can come into our life

50:59 D. David Cohen, J. Robert R. Reilly, E. Michael Coleman, A. David Cohn, A. And I had a limo, my own limousine that I owned. A full-time valet that drove me around and I'm 33 years old! I'm a snot nose kid and I thinking I'm King Midas you know this is gonna live forever everything i touch it's going to turn to gold man it could never get better than this and it's gonna go on forever the president of that company was paying him a million dollars a year

52:00 B. The A.

53:11 Destroyed the company and me as collateral damage, and just did awful, awful. In an attempt to take over the company it actually just destroyed because takers carry with them the seed of their own destruction they always do not five ten or half percent or once in awhile 100% of the time they carry with him the seed of their own destruction that's one of the three Ds the last one so all those things the planes limo gone you were gone The 30 Habits that a Giver Does Over and Over Again

CHAPTER 15 / 18 Discussion

Habits of Takers, Vibration Levels and Keeping One's Word

Csolkovits discusses the "30 habits of takers" versus the "30 habits of givers," noting that takers often lower the "rate of vibration" of those around them. A key distinction is how individuals handle their word; givers treat commitments as oaths, while takers change their word quickly for convenience. He encourages listeners to evaluate if they are someone who can truly be counted on.

habits· vibration· commitment· integrity· givers university

54:05 That we should be observing and seeing when they do it. And what are the 30 habits of takers? So in that book, we actually talk about the 60 habits there's actually a 30 and 30. An also there is another checklist that goes through these are things when you see this specific things When you see them doing it over and over again These are the things that we should be watching One other thing I love to share with your listeners couple those little nuggets Couple those little habits The one habit that they have B.

54:54 A. And that's, and they'll do it over and over again. That's what it then that's one of the signs of a 30 habits of takers is that they eliminate or lower the rate of vibration of a person or group. And you'll feel it all the time by contrast, a giver does the opposite there are the battery you can hook up to. And when you hook your battery up to theirs, you feel the charge? Yeah.

55:41 Yeah, and I... there's two things there for me. Habits! I love habits. I've worked on my habits and routines over the last five years When we get a real handle on our habits, we start to master our life in a way that that we hadn't believed possible before. And you're sharing there are new dimension of when we start to master our habits, we really start to create our environment in a much more positive way. This is like a different, an extra level of habit that some people might not have considered there The

56:29 So either so powerful or so destructive. And we go through in the second book and also at Givers University, We have online courses. We have a 15...we have like 48-15 minute courses You know lessons if you will that people can listen to going from work and one of the things we talk about is that When we how to develop habits? How do we develop habits? How do we change those habits? One of the first parts Jonnie and you're so right with what you said is one of the very first aspects is Discern the habit. What's the thing? What's the 30 things I should be watching for and when I see people do these things, these deeds, I may want to pull them in closer to me and have them be a part of my giver community. And when I see these other thirty things on a consistent basis habit over and over again, I may wanna begin respectfully distancing myself from these 30 habits. Another thing on those 30 lists another nugget for your listeners if you will

57:29 A. A quick reference, as you will see takers very quickly make their word and keep it for short durations and change it fast. In other words a giver will treat their words when they give you a commitment, a giver will treat their word is though its an oath. They will treat it as a full commitment. It's their bond! Its a vow By contrast, a taker will say oh yeah yeah and they will change their word very very quickly to the point that you can no longer count on what they say. And when you see them doing it over and over again... When you see that part! You see them over and over again. You look at your checklist and say uh-huh yep they changed their word quickly. They give their word, but then its almost like just get a yes and leave and then they change their word never planning of living up to it anyway

58:22 Here's the difference. Takers can be counted, givers can be counted on. Big difference. I mean that's lots of words right because when we are thinking about people in my life who i know i can count on And they stand out. Their level of love and trust and faith, and equally our commitment back to them is so much greater. So I guess we can all ask ourselves how do people look at you? Are they looking at you as a giver or a taker? To answer that you have to know it look in the mirror first of all and say how do you relate yourself?

CHAPTER 16 / 18 Discussion

Self-Talk and Internal Dialogue, Happiness as Wealth

The segment focuses on the power of internal dialogue and the importance of asking the right questions, such as "Why am I so happy every day?" Csolkovits explains that a victim mentality can inadvertently attract takers into one's life. They discuss reframing negative thoughts and the "absurdity" of people finding it easier to believe bad things will happen than good things.

self-talk· internal dialogue· victim mentality· happiness· reframing

59:13 B. David Valley A.

59:51 Givers gain, takers lose. So those people that have joined us all the way till the end, when you just take that final statement

1:00:27 Give us win, take us lose. You can reprocess this whole last hour and look at the people in your life, look at the actions you've taken, look at the businesses that are involved and when you're thinking why do things always go wrong? Why aren't things working out for me? That doesn't mean that you're a taker it could be worthwhile working out if you are but yeah I'm really present to something you said right at the top of the hour about A. Csolkovits, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen, E. Jensen

1:01:21 It's tragic, right? But you could have a taker who is a business partner. A taker who is wife and people whom you consider your close circle of friends. If because of an emotional trauma or some sort of scar from your early life, you inadvertently attract takers into your world – you've got some sort of victim mentality – then A. A.

1:02:33 Why am I so happy every day? Isn't this great?" Now, the answer that... What isn't that a great answer to have? Why am i so happy every day. So when we begin to ask the right questions, We begin to get the right answers The answers are always there! The questions are wrong! So when we asked the right question, we get the right answer and the self-fulfilling prophecy in our life And guess what?! We then learn That it's not about being rich and then happily living happily ever after It's about being happy And wealth, and rich is a part of our wealth. And that happiness is a great part of our wealth. Yeah yeah and that's been... That's a beautiful way to wrap this up you know people's internal dialogue is so powerful when we don't control it people will happily say oh things are always going wrong for me and believe that's the case but then if you said to that person

1:03:28 Well, why don't you presume that all good things are always going to happen to you? And they'll go as if that's true. They will believe the other they'll think they're absurd even though there's only really one or two words different in both statements is hilarious We do a whole section on self-talk just because of what you said What are the things we say what are the labels we put on things and what are those conversations and these thousands B. Ehrman. C. Sperling. D. Smith.

CHAPTER 17 / 18 Discussion

Team Superdad Community, Givers University Workshop Plans

Jonnie Jensen and E.A. Csolkovits discuss future collaborations, including a potential half-day workshop for Team Superdad members. They emphasize the importance of the Hero Academy framework and the need for fathers to step up as mentors. Csolkovits concludes by encouraging listeners to share the podcast to help families stay connected and healthy.

hero academy· workshop· coaching· community· mentorship

1:04:22 What did I just say to myself? But we teach just that thing, the importance of self-talk. So Jonnie, what a great mentoring show you have for dads and families and I love your five Fs on how important those are in people's lives. And I hope people listen to this podcast so they can share it with others Allow you into their lives as a mentor with them because I think your podcast is great, Jonnie. Thank you so much for having me on it! Oh that's brilliant yeah It's just one part of the Team Superdad community and the Hero Academy framework And we've got a whole coaching area inside of the Hero Academy So we can talk EA about different ways people can come to you and do all this stuff You've got available We're totally not trying

1:05:12 Give us university.info, you can take a seven question test there. Equally we'll have a chat after this and work out maybe of doing half day workshop or something inside of Team Superdad. Work out good price for people and things like that. Team Superdad members, friends and family. If you've got questions put them in the comments or come over to the team super dad group at teamsuperdad.com forward slash network. You can come in there and ask the questions that's the whole point of the community

1:05:50 And really just take this conversation on. Don't let this conversation end here. Oh, I'll tell you one thing! I did just hear from what you said there... You said ask yourself and that is so brilliant someone who thinks that they're a little bit of a negative person anytime they're having a negative thought to catch themselves and go oh what's the positive version of that thought or that self-speech we were just talking about? Reframe it relabel it yeah So EA, it's Friday I hear. Wish you a lovely weekend as the sun is shining spring is upon us if you're listening live that certainly where we're at and I wish use all the very best and your family and everything you are up to with wonderful continued success

1:06:35 Thank you, Jonnie. And thank you for having me on your show and to your listeners I pray that they share your show with others because the part of being a dad today is so important and the way families have become so disseparated and disheveled and for you to be able to really step up which is what givers do and say I'm going to do something about this. I want to bring information and help those people It's a wonderful thing. So thank you very much and thanks for having me on the show, and I would submit to you and your listeners have your best day ever! Awesome. Cheers EJ. See ya on the other side. Bye. Thank you What an epic chat that was fabulous. I mean...I've gotta be honest there are some podcast episodes that have never made it live And thats because they just weren't quite as fun as i wanted them to be but this was a great session

CHAPTER 18 / 18 Discussion

Podcast Outro, Chicago Connection and Subscription Call

Jonnie Jensen wraps up the episode, expressing his appreciation for Csolkovits and their shared Chicago connection. He invites listeners to join the Team Superdad network and the Hero Academy's Power Code course. The show ends with a request for reviews and subscriptions, reminding dads they are not alone.

chicago· hero academy· power code· subscription· review

1:07:32 E.A is a top bloke and I love the fact that he's from Chicago so i felt really at home with that Chicago accent and all my family and friends out in Chicago, and listeners obviously if you're listening to Chicago they'd be great to connect with you! A. Come on over to TeamSuperDad.com forward slash network and get involved there, and you can chat to me about joining the Hero Academy and taking part in the Power Code course. So that's it!

1:08:19 Give us a review, share the podcast and make sure you subscribe so that you don't miss another episode. In particular the Friday slash weekend sessions where we do The Wrap Up. Glenn and I or one of the other Team Superdad community members having a laugh talking dad stuff taking the piss out of each other and uh and wrapping up our week all the good bits in about bits thanks again i'll see you on the next episode bye This has been Team Superdad. Find us at teamsuperdad.com Join the program and create the best life ever for you and your children! You are not alone, you're on Team Superdad